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chemical-irwin · 2 years

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I saw people discussing when they think Ricky knew about his romantic feelings for Gina, and honestly I feel like him (and Gina) knew from the pretty much the beginning.

In 105 Ricky is upset Nini rejected his kiss and ‘friendzoned’ him so he decides to stop pursuing her and goes to homecoming with Big Red. He makes a pact with his dad that they would put themselves out there and Red says “So put yourself out there. Like, tonight”. and the next shot is Gina and EJ asking to sit.

The show establishes that Ricky is in the mindset of looking for a romantic connection and then places Gina in front of him.

He lashes out at her, and when he goes to apologise he basically tells her that he felt a connection with her, and he kind felt disappointed because he thought she felt it too (he was jealous 😭) and he has a high opinion of her. “I thought you were classier than that,”

After the convo and kiss on the check in the car, I think that he knows there’s potential there, but might be hesitant because she had just told him she that doesn’t date.

When Big Red asks ‘what happened with Gina, Ricky says “I’m not sure yet,” again, confirming that Ricky is deciding on if it’s a crush or not.

And then Gina asks to hear him play her the song, and he KNOWS that he likes her.

like look at his face, he is cheesing. This whole scene is SOOOOOO excellent. The way Gina asks him to play so they could stay for 5 minutes more because the night before the had confessed how much they enjoyed having a place to go after school, (him being flattered because nobody takes him seriously) ALSO WTWMAY is such a loaded song choice

After they both shower each other in compliments (because they are so 🥰🥰🥰) Ricky says to her:

“I kinda can’t forget about anything that happened at homecoming,”

Which I feel is Ricky telling Gina that he has a crush on her.

Look at the way he says “anything,” with the raise of the eyebrow, the small step towards her, as he tells her he’s been thinking about her, and the kiss with a hopeful smile.

And Gina understands it. You can see her process the information.

I’ve seen people joke that S1 Rina were dating without labels- and I literally think it’s true. Ricky tells Gina he felt a connection with her, she asks for a ride home and kisses him on the cheek. He tells her he can’t stop thinking about her, she walks him to a party and makes him a hat. They were courting each other, and that’s why they were both devastated when she got the call from her mom and she cut him off.

Gina’s confession on opening night is her verbally confirming to Ricky that she felt the connection too, and she was really sorry (heartbroken) that she had to give up on it.

Just like in the s3 finale, where she understood his confession in Kristof’s Lullaby, she verbally confirms that she wants to be with him.

Ricky doesn’t blink when Big Red thinks he wrote a song about Gina, because he knew he was romantically pursuing her. When Ricky says he let Gina slip through his fingers, I think means he’s sad he didn’t fight when they both knew they liked each other, and it’s why he feels EJ stole her. In s2 Gina says “Nini’s back and he’s so happy now,” she was a sad because he moved on, not because her crush was unrequited! And he only moved on because she had told him to, he doesn’t see her as an option after she moves (he thinks the follow my dreams resolution was about Gina) and he bury his feelings for her. He put himself out there and got disappointed again, and Nini was the safer option for a moment (i’m just saying Ricky wasn’t particularly heartbroken over his first break up with Nini)

The TL;DR is

Ricky is very open with Gina about his feelings for her in s1, he has always known that they were romantic and he basically tells her he has a crush on her after singing WTWMAY.

#hsmtmts #ricky bowen #gina porter #ricky x gina #rina #honestly liv being the female lead and rini being the intended endgame before 105 is a massive red herring #but the only way this could’ve been clearer is if he literally said he had a crush because #low-key they aren’t a girl falls first ship because it’s mutual #gina x ricky #ricky is way more into gina at first lol but people literally don’t believe that he could’ve had feeling for her it’s whack #hsmtmts rina #my boy is dumb but not that dumb

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jaehyunsbreadbasket · 2 years

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EJ was so adorable and happy for the majority of the episode, he was having the time of his life and starting his perfect summer.

Now he's been burdened with directing the "first ever" community production of the Broadway version of Frozen and Ricky's gonna steal (back?) Gina from him.

Bless EJ's little heart, all he wanted was to be a kid and be sappy with his girlfriend.

#hsmtmts #hsm the series #hsm the musical #high school musical the musical the series season 3 #hsmtmts 3 #hsmtmts season 3 #hsmtmts season 3 spoilers #hsmtmts ej #ej caswell #gina and ej #gina and ricky #hsmtmts gina #hsmtmts ricky #gina porter #ricky bowen #hsmtmts rina #rina hsmtmts #portwell

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spiderm1mi · 9 months

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ricky called his and gina's relationship a “sacred kinda home”??#?€?*?*?€?€?€?€?€??€!€,😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️😹😹😹😹😹😹😹😹😹😹😹😹😹😹😹😹

#ricky x gina #high school musical the musical the series #hsmtmts rina #gina porter #ricky bowen #hsmtmts #it's been 5 days yes it DID just hit me now 😽

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keeponkippenon · 1 month

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Kristoff Lullaby - s3 ep8 "Let It Go"

Love this song with my whole heart, should probably listen to the original version eventually, but I'm happy living with the HSMTMTS one for now.

Gina & Ricky were the absolute perfect choices for Anna/Kristoff, and I'll stand by that for as long as I live. Ricky singing 'Kristoff Lullaby" was peak, and fit his feelings at the time so well, that it's impossible to imagine him not being casted as Kristoff.

If they did one more season, I would've loved for them to do 'Tangled'. Ricky as Eugene just seems right y'know? Plus him and Gina singing "I See The Light" would've made me sob /pos

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thevillanonyan · 9 months

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Spoilers

Hsmtmts season 4 thoughts:

Ricky: I'm so happy they allowed him to be happy in his relationships! His relationship with Gina was very well executed, at first I thought he was going to be super jealous the whole time(classic ricky) but he actually spoke to Gina about what was bothering him. He also actively learned from his mistakes with nini and his parents. I love his broship with EJ aswell, finally they are allowed to be friends and they both did each other such good! He had also recovered from his parents divorce in a way which felt earned.

Gina: She was also allowed to be happy this season! I was expecting her to get caught up in the love triangle, but thankfully she knew she wanted to be with Ricky and behaved platonically with Mack, not trying to lead him on or tick him into fighting with Ricky. I was dreading her giving up the film to stay at school but, the twist at the end made it way more satisfying and realistic a decision. (even if I'm real life it couldn't really have gone down this way lol.)

Ashlyn: I was sad to see her and big red break up, but it was done so well and they had drifted apart a lot since season 2, it made a lot of sense. The situation between her and madoxx felt so earned by the end and I love that she didn't cheat! She waited and properly thought out how she felt before she went for it.

Ej: (my tallest child) Loved him this season! Sooo well handed! He behaved like a proper adult, talking to Ricky as a slightly older brother, giving miss jen advice, stepping in when he was needed most and dropping things when his friends needed his help! In his first scene with Ricky you really get the impression he has grown a lot, but is still young and readjusting to his college life, he hasn't got more sorted than Ricky just an extra years experience.

Courtney: Again loved her this season!!! It was really nice to see her anxiety plotline hadn't been dropped but she had made visible progress. Watching her fret over which colleges to go to was a really interesting arc for her this season and she really pulled it off! The only actor who didn't have other main characters to bounce off in their scenes and she nailed it! I also loved that she found her people through church. Religion can often play a bit part in these sorts of decisions and it's not really talked about without it being made someone's entire personality, I thought it added a lot of depth to her character without being overwhelming.

I could talk all night but

Overall:

Carlos and seb were underused but hilarious as always

I love all of the bleeped out swearing.

This whole season felt really special I have a feeling the creative team found their feet and really made the show they wanted.

I'm glad the love triangle was a misdirect and was dropped pretty soon.

All of the actors stepped UP THEIR GAME IT WAS SOOO GOOOD

The Halloween song was incredible

Ej finally shaved

Everyone's relationships feel natural and well executed.

Every character feels like they have grown so much as they should.

Miss jen not leaving should have felt like a chiche but actually felt like the right decision for her.

Miss Jen breaking up with Ricky's dad also felt well done.

I hate to say it, but I'm glad this was the final season. The timing is right and I'm so glad we got such a good send off.

Also Ricky telling miss Jen he loves her had me crying yall.

#hsmtmts #hsmtmts ej #hsmtmts rina #ricky #ricky bowen #gina porter #ej caswell #courtney hsmtmts #season 4 #hsmtmts season 4 #joshua bassett

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starrrbakerrr · 8 months

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Can I Have This Dance? (4x03) | What Do You Know About Love? (3x05)

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joondaya · 9 months

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Gina going “Ricky intrigues me and I don’t get intrigued” and then her reaction to his audition makes a lot more sense now. The fact that she felt this strange connection with him right from their very first conversation. The fact that she is not only the reason he even ended up being Troy, but did not leave the show the first time and went back on stage the second time, just adds to the fact that were always meant to be. More than once she helped him be the Troy that he is now. One way or another their paths were always meant to cross.

#hsmtmts #hsmtmts rina #rina hsmtmts #hsmtmts season 4 #gina porter #ricky bowen #gina and ricky #gina x ricky #ricky and gina #ricky x gina

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blues-valentine · 6 days

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HIGH SCHOOL MUSICAL: THE MUSICAL: THE SERIES (2019-2023) ↳ MAIN ENDGAME PAIRINGS.

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katzcolorz · 2 years

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The “you’re the best” parallel had me sobbing. Ricky finally understanding what Gina went through last season seeing him with Nini. We prayed for times like these but IT HURTS.

#gina and ricky #gina porter #hsmtmts #hsmtmts rina #ricky x gina #ricky bowen #gina x ricky #hsmtmts ricky #rina hsmtmts #hsmtmts gina

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magicwithineleteo · 6 months

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things i wish you said by sabrina carpenter & i’m sorry by joshua bassett give me rina’s individual perspectives had gina moved away (the 3 times she almost did) .

like ricky being regretful of never stopping her when she left after hsm in season 1, or if he WAS too late at her press conference in season 4 and never got to tell her that he loves her.

and gina being heartbroken about ricky never saying that he had feelings for her too after she moved in s1 or if she was heartbroken if ricky had never said i love you to her and she went to new zealand.

idk just those 2 songs give me rina angst but their individual povs about their pining pain. ricky (i’m sorry) being regretful of never telling gina how he feels & gina (tiwys) being devastated of what she thinks is one-sided love.

she didn’t know (s1-3) that ricky felt the same all along, or rather, was getting there. he himself didn’t even know until it was too late.

i’m gonna break down the lyrics for both songs for ricky and gina, the red is for gina moving in s1 and the blue is for gina going to nz in s4. purple is for both situations . some lyrics will have both red, blue, and purple, or just one. i may just not include a lyric or two if they don't apply so

so the canon compliant/au would be:

“i wouldn’t quit on us” scene and gina leaves forever, instead of staying w ashlyn

ricky being too late. gina ends up going to new zealand and they end up breaking up (how and why? idk. the point is is that she left before he could say that he loves her)

first we’ll dive into ricky's perspectives (i’m sorry). gina’s will be in another post

(btw this is not me shipping josh and sabrina or any way or speculating that these songs are about one another. this is just me appreciating the parallels from songs from 2 of my favorite artists)

i thought about what i would say but i’m two years too late

ricky let gina go. he just let her hug him. he let gina confess that she likes him, and he let her go. he’s too late. now she’s gone, and she’s never coming back. gina didn’t return his texts after she moved. (in the show and probably in this au) he’s too late. she’s gone. and he didn’t stop her when he got the chance. he didn’t realize how he felt with gina. if only he could go back in time.

ricky was too late. maybe a few seconds. minutes. hours. days. weeks. months. now, 2 years. gina went to new zealand and she’s a star. the epitome of a star. she’s achieving her dreams. but he never got to tell her that he loves her. he had it all prepared. the speech he practiced countless times, that kept getting pushed back. he ran for his life in those hallways, knowing that he needed to do this before she leaves. he came to an abrupt stop, after yelling if he’s too late. he was. he stopped to see the limo driving away. he dropped the electric guitar in shock. he didn’t get to say i love you.

he raced to the airport in his little orange buggy, where she changed his life. she’s seemed to change his life countless times, one of them being here. homecoming. he probably broke every driving law there ever was to get to the airport.

but he was too late. she wasn’t there. she was gone.

i can't imagine how you're doing these days

gina doesn’t respond anymore. she stopped as soon as she left. gone like she never came. the air felt hollow without gina porter. school felt longer. rehearsal wasn’t fun anymore. he lost someone who he took for granted, who he should’ve told how he feels. he still follows her on instagram and tiktok, still comments on her posts. she’s still as incredible as ever. but he doesn’t know how she’s doing anymore. they used to tell each other certain things, that no one else knew. he’s not that for her anymore.

ricky keeps up with gina constantly. it’s hard to forget about the love of your life. he follows her every social media, but can’t bring himself to text her. he sends the occasional “hey i’m so proud of you” and congrats, but he can’t bring himself to actually text her. how can you just text the love of your life? she doesn’t even know that you think of her that way. you can’t just say it over texts. or over a phone call. and he doesn’t have enough money to fly to new zealand himself to play her love you forever. and her career is set. new zealand for romeo and juliet was just the beginning. he knows gina is never coming back. once the world saw her, the star she is, he’d lost her. she deserves the world and its love, he can’t hold her back from that. he needs to let her go and let her do her thing. he had to push down everything he felt, the feeling of needing to fight for her. he needed to let her shine. but he really missed her. and selfishly, he wanted her to stay. but he knew she couldn’t not take this opportunity. he needs to be supportive, even if that means she won’t be in his life anymore.

sure, it wasn't perfect back then i’ll be first to admit but it was better than being strangers again

ricky never saw gina coming. in the beginning of the year, he was set on figuring things out with nini. but after a conversation with a random beautiful stranger in the stairwell, everything changed for him. and their road was somewhat rocky. they both had this understanding of each other, that he’d never found anywhere else. well, he did come for her on homecoming, for some reason. he realized that bothered him so much, because he thought gina was smarter (and deserved better) than ej. he thought she wouldn’t do him like that. he doesn’t completely know why he acted the way he did. but atleast she spoke to him. atleast, whenever things were hard, they spoke. now, it’s complete silence as gina tries to move on from ricky and ricky comprehends his feelings.

ricky had much different expectations for his senior year. he thought he would be happy, gina is his GIRLFRIEND :) and yes that did happen, but the twists and turns of his year, the secret dating, mack alana, hsm3, hsm4. all of it. he didn’t see that coming. but him and gina made it out. they were both struggling, but he knew they both were each other’s priorities and would never abandon that. yeah, he was jealous of mack, yeah her mom didn’t like him, yeah he missed her. of course he did. yes he probably hurt her, but they got through everything. with gina in nz, her career skyrocketing, they barely got time to speak. even a quick text still gave ricky buzz. but it was never like how it was before.

i’m drunk too late talking to the moon, writing songs i can't sing to you

just for a moment. well that was technically for nini, but ever since big red put that thought into his head, that it was about gina, now that he thought about it, it really applied more to her. he wished he could sing his feelings to her. like he did with when there was me and you. he was just so excited because she was the only one to support his idea, and no one ever did that for him. he needs her.

3 words. love you forever. he never got to sing it to her. and now he regrets it every damn day. and he knows he told nini that he kicked himself everyday for not telling her he loves her too, but this is NOTHING compared to that. this was soul crushing. gut wrenching. as if someone snatched every piece of happiness he had. he didn’t get to tell her that he loves her, and he'll probably never get that chance ever again.

ever since that day, the things i didn't say, they haunt me

he let her walk away. he didn't stop her. he let her leave his life. he didn't even try to stop her. was he in denial? was he distracted? did he not realize, that the significance he thought nini had in his life, actually belonged to gina? he didn't fight for her to stay. even if she couldn't stay, atleast he could say that he put up a fight. but he didn't, because he took her for granted, and realized how he felt too late. he wishes he could go back in time and just do something to let gina know that he really liked her.

he didn't get to say i love you. he's so sure of how he feels, he knows gina is his forever. but he never got to tell her, and probably won't ever get to, because gina is a star and is living her dream. who is he to come in the way of that?

and i know that i'm to blame, so go ahead and blame it on me

gina blatantly told him how she felt. she wouldn't quit on them if she wasn't moving away. he didn't respond. he didn't verbally reciprocate. now he's paying the consequences, looking for gina everywhere he goes, only to realize that she was nowhere to be seen. he'd lost her. he let her slip through his fingers.

gina did nothing wrong. she followed her dream. he was too late.

i know that i'm too late, but i'll say it anyway, i'm sorry. though it's far too late

[ricky] gina, i'm so sorry. for not realizing how i felt. for not telling you that i felt it too. for letting you go easily. it may not be of any purpose, but you deserve an apology. i'm sorry. i would do anything to turn back time and fix everything. somehow beg your mom to let you live with me, if you have to. and that may be selfish of me, but i just can't let you go. ever.

[ricky] i love you, gina. full stop. i never got to tell you that. the speech i prepared, spent hours rehearsing and perfecting, the song that i wrote, anxiously waiting for the right moment to tell you. but that moment never came, because i was too late. i'm so sorry gina. i love you.

and it was me, it wasn't you it's cliché, but it's true i wasn't thinking how i usually do

[ricky] gina did nothing wrong. she feels so deeply and bravely. she's fearless, so strong, so amazing. she did nothing. it was all me.

and is your momma doing well? or does she hate me still?

terri porter never liked ricky. he learned from gina that she wasn't supportive of her dating, let alone ricky. he knew she thought he was unreliable (not the first time he's heard that) and didn't have a stable future to support gina with. she was the one who told ricky about nz, and while she said sorry, she didn't look sorry. she was the one who was egging mack onto gina. ricky just hopes that now, she likes him more than she did before. but he has no way of knowing. maybe she's happy now that gina is away from him, alone with mack across the world, shooting a movie as one of the most well-known couples in history.

and if you ever hear this, i hope you know that i'm not proud of who i've been

ricky wasn't proud of the way he handled gina's departure. well, in a way. he knew he was never going to see her again, and she stopped returning his texts. he did his best to shut down the gina portion of his brain as what was the use? he was just going to be heartbroken that she's gone. might as well focus on himself now. and look! nini is interested in him again, and he's back to being who he always was. but then gina showed up. unexpectedly. and rocked his whole world in just one night. he wished he told gina how he'd felt. so desperately. but he had just told nini before that he loved her. maybe it was like a hail mary of somesort. anyway, he just...regrets everything.

and if i see you again, i hope you know that i wish you nothing but the best my biggest regret

will he ever see gina again? would she appear out of thin air, like she did in opening night? he’s not sure. he wished he’d realized how he felt earlier. maybe they would’ve still been as close as they were.

ricky knew that him and gina were forever, but he also knew that she deserved the world and she was finally getting it. he’ll watch her with a smile on his face, endlessly proud of her. even though he’ll always regret he didn’t tell her that he loves her. he was certain that she’s his soulmate, especially after he found out that she auditioned for hsm because of him last year. he’s certain that she’s his forever, but knows he needs to let her be the star she is.

ricky will probably never get over gina porter. he regrets what he never said everyday. he hopes he’ll get a chance to tell her one day. he’s sorry. he loves her.

well now i’m very sad. i’ll make another post w gina’s pov soon :)

#hsmtmts #rina #hsmtmts rina #ricky x gina #ricky bowen #gina porter #analysis? kinda idk

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