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Ask: Reply - 2022.03.17

It’s been a while, hasn’t it? I’ve been focusing on the big analysis, so I haven’t really sat down to answer asks properly in a few months. I thought it was about time I did.

And there’s been so many really nice Vmin moments lately too. :3 Aren’t we blessed? I managed to watch the last day properly, and it really was such a joy to see them all again after this break.

Anyways, today’s topics will be:

Ask 1 : Jimin OST!! Ask 2: Vmin getting Covid Ask 3: Vmin facetimed for 2 hours Ask 4: Raw take on shipping Ask 5: When is the big reveal(?) on your blog? Ask 6: Vmin as each other’s other half in songs Ask 7: Believers take out the fun of some fandom parts Ask 8: You analysis hurts me and takes away my joy Ask 9: I don’t understand your analysis at all Ask 10: Jimin about “bromance”

Let’s get to it!

Ask 1: Jimin OST!!

OMG YEEEES! I knoooow! T_T I can’t believe he is finally getting one! I am so curious to what it will be and what it will sound like, but people are thinking it might be emotional because of the plot of the drama (Our Blues)? I wonder if it will be solo or a collab? (Also if he manages to add certain themes that haunt me every waking moment!) Either way I am so excited!!

💜 Let’s all rejoice, support him and look forward to the song! 💜

Ask 2: Vmin getting Covid

You know, I hated it so much when I saw Ji/kookers wishing/hoping that JK would get Covid to “prove” their theories, and then how Tae/kookers basically did the same thing after Tae got it. I can’t believe they would rather see this as some kind of proof, instead of worrying for the members, especially since Jimin had surgery at the same time.

But yeah, them ignoring that Vmin both got it doesn’t surprise me. Not that I personally think that getting Covid close to each other has to mean anything (and we also know that all members had met recently before Tae was tested positive so literally anyone could have gotten it even if it was from Jimin), but it is rather hypocritical to say it means something if it happens to one pair but then just dimiss it if it’s another. But that’s just the way it is, another normal day in Shipping land.

Ask 3: Vmin facetimed for 2 hours

I really think we all know that any person who say any relationship in BTS is fanservice is just willfully ignorant. I don’t know how people can still say Vmin is fake considering all the things they have done, big and small, over the years... But clearly these people simply doesn’t want to see what is right there in front of them. They probably have some reason to want to believe it, but I have no idea what could possibly be so facinating about liking a group or a member that is faking most of their feelings. Oh well, back to the actual point!

VMIN FACETIMED FOR 2 HOURS AS SOON AS TAE WOKE UP AND THEY WORKED OUT TOGETHER OVER THE PHONE AND EVERYTHING! WHY ARE THEY SO CUTE! Vmin spending hours on the phone while doing nothing and everything together just to keep each other company is honestly so on brand for them. Let’s just enjoy it and let the negative anti Vmin crowd gloom over Vmin being such great actors or whatever it is they enjoy doing. :P

Ask 4: Raw take on shipping

Hi, and thank you. I am not entirely sure what you mean, like specifically, but I am glad you like the way I approach shipping and talk about it. And also that it could help you in some way to feel less confused. :3

Ask 5: When is the big reveal(?) on your blog?

First of all, thank you @iamthestorm79 for the lovely words. :) It’s always nice to hear from new readers, and I am glad you have liked what you have found so far.

As for your first question, about the “big reveal” I wonder if you might mean my big Vmin analysis? I wouldn’t exactly call it a reveal, because you know, all of the information is out there.... It’s nothing new, just my thoughts and theories collected in one big essay about Vmin. I’ve started to post it, and so far have two parts up on Tumblr BTS&Vmin analysis pt. 1 - An introduction and BTS&Vmin analysis pt. 2 - About me and my views. On Patreon I have two more parts up, and I am currently fixing/writing on the 5th. How long it will take to get it all out here on Tumblr I don’t know... Because we are talking about more than 200 pages of text, and that’s without adding pictures. It’s also not all done, but I wanted to start posting it since it’s been so long since I began writing it. Anyways, I hope that answers your first question. :)

So let’s go to your second one.

Ask 6: Vmin as each other’s other half in songs

I mean, too convienient is not a phrase I would use. Because while I do agree that some things are planned, like the opposite images in Serendipity and Singularity for example, a lot of the things are too small to be... Well, there for fans to notice and be fabricated for a full on drama plot.

I think it’s a mix of intentional things and things that match because it’s coming from Vmin, if we speak about the song connections in general. Something like 4 o’clock being based on Vmin is naturally a result of Vmin’s bond, and not a hint for their bond so to speak.

But it’s kind of difficult for me to say yay or nay to this question because I think it depends on what we look at. In general some things do come from Big Hit, though I would say the smaller stuff are more likely from Vmin or simply coincidence in some cases. Either way I don’t think it’s too convienient because if it was meant to be something like a k-drama plot meant to engage fans then they completely failed as I have barely seen any ARMY talk about the connections, or even notice them to begin with.

That being said I also don’t think that Vmin are making connections for fans to find on purpose either, I think if the connections aren’t just coincidence they simply inspire each other and thus a lot of the connections would come rather naturally.

I hope my answer made sense. It makes sense in my head, but I wonder if it’s as clear to others what I mean. Sorry, and thank you again for your messages and questions.

Ask 7: Believers take out the fun of some fandom parts

Honestly I am so sad to see how much worse shippers (or believers) have started to behave in this fandom... Of course it’s nothing new, but even a few years ago it was a lot better and at least easier to escape. For me I decided to not engage with these people anymore, but if they come to you it’s of course difficult to let it go...

No shipper should tell another shipper to not ship, because as I have said many times before, it’s all about preference, and it should be totally ok to like different things. Anyways, it’s up to each individual to try to be the bigger person when these things happen. Because sadly I don’t think it will get any better anytime soon. I really wish we could just all enjoy our own ships and love BTS and leave it at that... Sorry anon, I feel your frustration, but I really don’t have any better advice than trying to avoid and ignore it if possible. 💜

Ask 8: You analysis hurts me and takes away my joy

I am sorry anon, that you feel this way... But this is the way I want to talk about Vmin and I think believing can be harmful and hurt you if you get too involved. I don’t doubt Vmin’s love for each other at all, and I also have no doubt that they are soulmates and have a very special bond. But stating they have to be romantic is in my opinion not something we can do. But that is my opinion and you are of course free to think differently.

That being said, I will continue to talk about Vmin in what if’s and speculations and not pretend like they have to be romantic and that is the only option, because that’s just not what I personally believe. I don’t want to make anyone feel bad, but I also don’t want to be a yes-sayer who speaks as if Vmin has to be in a romantic relationship simply because that’s what other Vminies want or believe in. I am trying to be careful and realistic because that’s just who I am. Sorry again anon, if my posts hurt you, maybe I am not the right blog for you. 💜

Ask 9: I don’t understand your analysis at all

I see the need to be responsible as a analysis writer, because I have seen the damage shipping can lead to after many years in many fandoms. And considering the amount of believers of different ships in this fandom someone will have to be wrong (if not all) and I rather be honest about that possibility, than convince someone through my theories that will then end up hurt if Vmin isn’t real.

If it makes others happy to believe in Vmin they can by all means choose to believe in them being real even if they read my analyses. I can’t stop anyone from doing that. But I do think it can be hurtful, and if one of Vmin end up dating someone else I don’t want someone who has read my blogs to feel like I have brainwashed them or something. All I am doing is trying to stay true to my own way of thinking while also not running with my theories as some absolute truth. Because they aren’t.

I am not forcing anyone to think the same way as I do, I just put out my own thoughts on this blog in a way that I feel that I can stand behind.

Ask 10: Jimin about “bromance”

I mean, personally, I also think they do fanservice and that Jimin is one that does it more than many of the others... That being said I don’t think I see fanservice the same way as most might. I don’t think fanservice = fake. I think there are different kinds of fanservice, and I think BTS stopped doing any type of fanservice that they don’t enjoy a long time ago.

I also think it’s a very big difference between saying Vmin IS fanservice, and Vmin DOES fanservice.

I think toxic fans saying whole relationships in BTS are fanservice are daft, because like you said it’s obvious that they all love and adore each other for real after all these years and after how much we have seen them and how they are together. But likewise I think someone who says BTS doesn’t do any fanservice at all is being a bit naive. If it’s an act of fun for the audience to enjoy it’s some type of fanservice in my opinion. Like this cute moment which was planned before hand for the fans:

There are just a lot of different kinds of fanservice in my opinion, and while you can say individual moments are “fake” or planned I don’t think that means it’s done to fool fans in any way or that it has to be seen in a negative way. Which is more the type of fanservice I interpret it as Jimin talking about, meaning the insincere and forced kind... So to me it’s more like he just stated he doesn’t like to fake things, or do things just to get a reaction, but he does things because he likes it and is comfortable with it as well.

It’s ok if you don’t agree with me on this though, I know fanservice is a rather hot topic. (I thought I had a post where I talk more in detail about different types of fanservice, but I couldn’t find it in the big mess that is my blog... Sorry. I do mention it a bit in HERE though if you are curious.)

Still, thank you for the ask, and YES!!! BTS seemed to miss ARMY a lot, and I can’t believe they sang Bulletproof The Eternal! And I also can’t believe Vmin will be getting married again for like the 100th time (actually I totally believe it) and I am very much looking forward to the coming Vegas concerts!

Seeing them all happy really brought so much happiness, especially after such a long break with less content. I’ve missed them more than I should admit.

Also soooo many cute Vmin moments! We are blessed and spoiled and I can’t believe we got 7 butt slaps, a very tender double hand holding and a new piggyback ride! 💜

Thank you all for reading, and I hope you got some joy out of it.

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💖 BTS LOVE YOURSELF WORLDTOUR IN AMSTERDAM (ZIGGO) 131018 💖

PRECONCERT

I finally managed to get tickets, but I already bought expensive tickets on stubhub I had to sell at the venue on Saturday ;;; But first I had to go to Korean School, but I had a fever and was feeling so sick (I still am...) When we arrived at the venue, it was SO CROWDY?????!!!!! there were a lot of fans and the weather was so hot too wow :o Anyways I still managed to sell my tickets and made two armys really happy <3

In the venue I was by myself and made a new friend and we talked so much! They were playing MVs and I couldn't wait any longer ;; My view for the stage was amazing too! I could see everything really well and I`was pretty close too :D

I posted fancams and fanpics on my twitter

SETLIST (2,5 hr) 1. IDOL 2. SAVE ME 3. IM FINE 4. MAGIC SHOP 5. JUST DANCE (JHOPE) 6. EUPHORIA (JUNGKOOK) 7. I NEED U 8. RUN 9. SERENDIPITY (JIMIN) 10. LOVE (NAMJOON) 11. DNA 12. MEDLEY - BOYS WITH FUN 13. MEDLEY - ATTACK ON BANGTAN 14. MEDLEY - FIRE 15. MEDLEY - BAEPSAE 16. MEDLEY - DOPE 17. AIRPLANE PT 2 18. SINGULARITY (TAEHYUNG) 19. FAKE LOVE (ROCK VERSION) 20. SEESAW (YOONGI) 21. EPIPHANY (JIN) 22. THE TRUTH UNTOLD 23. TEAR 24. MIC DROP 25. SO WHAT 26. ANPANMAN 27. LOVE MYSELF

Note: I didn't film everything, I was only holding my phone at some songs at some parts, Idk how I remember everything so clearly, but they mean so much to me so probably my mind wanted to remember everything ;;

CONCERT They started Idol with lots of fireworks, am I really seeing bangtan? I couldn't believe my eyes AT ALL. The fan chants were amazing too, in my fancams Im screaming a lot AHAHHA but oh my god..... I still cant believe I saw bangtan!!! I also wanted to say they talked Dutch a lot (Namjoon: Aangenaam Kennis te maken, Jungkook: Geniet van de Show and I cant remember what the others said). And then they did the Save me + im fine and really save me and im NOT fine. it was so good SKFJKSDJFS Im fine is one of my favourite songs of ANSWER and I JUST SAW IT LIVE TOO?! And next up was Magic Shop, which is such a beautiful song. Especially singing ‘’I show you’’ to bangtan made me really teary and the precious VMIN moments too <3 I also want to say I've never seen any live performances (except the old songs, medley, mic drop, anpanman, im fine and idol)! Now Jhope and Jungkook were about to have their solo, and the dance moves in just dance of JHOPE. I need.... air, he is so good ;;;; Jungkook was still hurt and was doing Euphoria while sitting (he also did lots of choreos on the chair). And he had such a beautiful smile at the ‘high note parts’ it made me so weak and soft ;u; And I expected this song, but then I didn't expect it either, but this was another version of I NEED U and they were all wearing white and lowkey were looking like the most beautiful angels and human beings ive ever seen ;; We had to rap yoongis part too! and tHEN SJSKFJKSJ RUN RUN!!!! RUNN CAME!!!! IM SOBBING, I LOVE RUN SO MUCH?!!!! And now Serendipity was next :’) this was the most cutest, adorable, yet beautiful and so jimin performance I have EVER SEEN. He was playing with bubbles, doing a smooth choreo and smiling/giggling a lot, but the heartbeat he did? My heartbeat was total flat line at that POINT because that was TOOO MUCH JIMINess. Next up was our president: Kim Namjoon, he had so much fun performing and I did the fan chants so loudly ;; DNAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!! I know I say I dont like DNA a lot, but the moment I heard the flute I screamed the fan chants so loudly and since ive been screaming for more than an hour too: I was losing my voice. BUT FIRST OF ALL, IS KING TAEHYUNG LOOKING AT JHOPE WHILE DANCING (INSTEAD OF THEIR BACKS ON EACHOTHER), THEN HE IS HOLDING JUNGKOOK WHILE SINGING? EXCUSE ME SIR.

JIMIN BIRTHDAY CELEBRATION So during this MC, the screen behind turned into a Jimin screen and it said In dutch ‘’My Angel and my world’’ and jimin is indeed our angel and our world! he was so happy and started running towards the main stage (they were on the extended stage) and he went on his knees and said things like thank you!!! I love you!! and this is my best birthday and wont forget it either!! (things like that) and the member started running (EVEN INJURED JUNGKOOK!) towards him too and hugging him ;; We all sang happy birthday to him!

Medley and then the amazing medley! they started with Boys with Fun (taehyung didn't choreo his dance :( ) but it was nevertheless really amazing! Jungkook was doing lots of choreos on the chair during this medley! During Attack on Bangtan; Jimin was sitting on the floor and looking at Jungkook and both had such a beautiful smile ;; And it was so quiet and suddenly taehyung screamed MAKE SOOMEEEEE NOOOISE and you heard a loud ‘’Bultaoreune’’ and [closed] they did the 3:33 [username himenation more closed]. their energy was mind-blowing! Especially Jimins! and suddenLY BAEPSAE CAME AN I REALY LOVE THIS SONG (they were A LOT less wild and less hoe-ing than in USA, they did baepsae how they always did it lol). but everyone jumped away from the stage to give Jhope is part anD DAMN JHOOOOOPEEEE. After BAEPSAE they dID DOPE GUYS!!!!!!!! and jungkook did the choreo while sitting, oh god I love bts so much man

Concert part 2 After DOPE they did AIRPLANE PT 2. And I havent mentioned yet how gorgeous they looked, but especially Jin! He was wearing this oversized holographic-ish shirt but looked so amazing and the namjin part [ooof], jin also accidentally exposed his abs lol (Issa win for the kimseokjinstans), but also the yoongmin part, the dance EVERYTHING!

And... singularity came, guys.... taehyung is my bias, but he wrecked me so much this whole concert, ive been sobbing man, this man is so perfect ;; the way he sings it, his voice, dance, aura, his visuals, all A+ After singularity they did the rock version of Fake Love and they were wearing this black outfit, with lots of mesh, leather etc They looked so OOF. But the funniest part was everyone chanting I DONT KNOW NAN MOLLA (its not even part of the fanchant HAAHHA). and then finally! MR YOONGIS SOLO! MY FAV RAPPERS SOLO! He was on a table, but he was performing like he was on a seesaw (the meaning of the song is past-present though) but IT WAS SO GOOD!!! and now we were about to go emo, because jin started his solo on a piano ;; his mic didn't work properly in the beginning so the fans started to sing for him, but after one-two sentences he got his mic back and he continued and the song was so beautiful I got so teary ;; And then we had the truth untold, in other words the superior song by the vocal line ever. It was.... so...... beautiful.......... taehyung and jimin both changed their notes, which made this song more memorable. Jimin was crying though (and I think taehyung a bit too) it gave the performance such an amazing touch; how they were able to sing with such emotions. Jungkooks mic didn't work In the beginning either, so we sang for him! I was such a mess I was feeling so emotional ;;;;;;;;; im so glad TEAR was up next because rapline POPPED OFF AND CAME FOR OUR WIGS AND EVERYONE. IT WAS SO GOOD! The whole venue turned black, with greenlights and laser OH GOD and oh my god oh my god the raps oh my god. And now MIC DROP REMIX CAME UP INCLUDING THE DANCE BREAK KJFKSJDKSJKFSJJFKS jungkook didn't participate but wow THIS SONG AND THE FANCHANTS??!! THE Bodyrolls were so cool, taehyung came for my wig!

ENCORE They all came in blue pants and their white t-shirt. Jimin also had a cap on! they all looked so handsome omg (when do they not!?) But when they sung SO WHAT, I burst into tears because I realised it was about to end ;; Jin was being very very very wild with a towel, did the shoot dance with jungkook (yes he tried to!!!) jin and taehyung did their part again, and taehyung was wearing an orange hairband (on purpose) and playing with it ;^; During anpanman taehyung was holding jungkook and singing his part, then jin came running towards jungkook and was dancing very wildly he fell on the grOUND KFJKFSKJ also our president came to jungkook too and pat his shoulders ;;; jimin gave his cap to jungkook OOOF SO MANY INTERACTIONS!!!!! and lastly... LOVE MYSELF, I cried so hard, during this song I couldn't even breathe. its one of the most beautiful songs ive ever heard and hearing those voice and message coming from bangtan really made me cry. They mean so much to me. The VMIN part had me on the floor, I couldn't handle it anymore and my friend started hugging me :(

LAST MC Yoongi said he loved Amsterdam a lot and it was so far one of the best concerts they ever had. We were so loud! They also admitted they wanted to come here last year, but it got cancelled and they feel sorry they couldn't do a 2nd date here, but theyre coming back next year! Jhope also talked how he was sightseeing with taehyung and jungkook talked that he was thinking about things a lot lately. Jimin was being the cutie again and was copying fans, but he called us his presents too :(( Jin also talked dutch but I couldn't really understand HAHAH but then Jhope wanted say goodbye (doei) and he kept saying DOEI, DOEIDOEI, DDDDOEEII, DOEIDOEIDOEI, DOEEEEEII, DDDDOEEEI and made it sound like a sound effect and bangtan followed and they were laughing so much :’)

Jiminbar (a fansite) turned zing into jimin by advertising his birthday!! ooof the banner and the whole venue looked GREAT!

I really loved the concert so much, and I miss them so much. I cant wait to see them again :(( theyre such great human beings, bless them T_T They know how to perform! Their vocals and dance moves are a whole another level, and if you think they sound good on CD? bish get ready for hearing it live, because it sounds so much better!!!! Im going to miss them so much, but thank you Jin, Yoongi, Namjoon, Jhope, Jimin, Taehyung and Jungkook for being in my life, changing it for the better, cheering me up, having good music and being such great humble human beings <3 I love you guys so much. See you next time <3

#live report #livereport #bts #btsinamsterdam

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