#subjectivity vs objectivity

[girl4music]

I love Willow as a character because of what she represents and teaches about the human condition and because she shows what humans result to on a bad day or when in desperation to do something but if I knew somebody like her in real life I really could not stand being around her. Just the severe lack of emotional maturity and intelligence she has and her insistence to Will things her way all the time and completely ignore or disregard people’s consent and not take into consideration their views or feelings as if she’s the only one in the room that even matters.

I couldn’t be friends with somebody like that. I really couldn’t. I couldn’t tolerate the blatant disrespect. I’d be constantly fighting with her. Telling her that how she’s behaving is selfish or arrogant or childish and could potentially risk or endanger hers or other’s well-being or both. That it’s not worth what it does for her.

She’s a fascinating character in a fictional sense.

But knowing a character like that in reality…

Different story for me. Absolutely.

And it’s a good thing she is fictional because I wouldn’t have the authority to tell anybody any of this. But I know for fact it would slip out when I’m moody and because I’m just a take-no-shit kind of person. I might be quiet and stoic in real life but I’m not carefree and lenient like Oz and Tara are. The reason why I can say Willow is my favourite character in the Buffyverse is because I primarily look at her objectively. She’s an object. A vehicle for learning. And that’s what matters most to me in art/entertainment.

As odd as it may seem to say, - I feel like I could get along with somebody like Xander more than Willow and I know the whole fanbase would take me to task for that and be completely confused by it because the majority of the fanbase think of Xander as the worst.

But nah, not for me. Xander uses his worst traits to become his best self. It’s always opposite for Willow. She uses what she does best to be the fucking worst and it’s not until she’s actually at her worst does she come to realize this and does a 180. But even then…

Nah, knowing a “Willow Rosenberg” in real life would not be a long relationship for me. I just know it.

But I think it’s very interesting how we can love characters that we don’t particularly think much of as a person in art/entertainment but can love as a character. Or maybe it’s just me that’s like that.

I mean fiction is fiction and reality is reality.

I analyze the fuck out of this character. Mostly negatively. But nevertheless - enough to realize that she most definitely is my favourite character. There are characters I don’t ever talk about at all and that’s because I don’t think much of them as a character but probably would like them a lot as a person in real life.

#buffy the vampire slayer #willow rosenberg #alyson hannigan #character representation #character development #subjectivity vs objectivity #art #entertainment #real life #fiction #reality

[ivytea]

guillermo del toro’s pinocchio is living in MY heart.....

#pinocchio #illustration #cottagecore #del toro pinocchio #its tea times #OBSESSED with this movie but especially the first section where both gepetto and pinocchio are kind of unhinged #pinocchio is like a deranged little creature. instills genuine fear in the heart at first encounter. i lovb him #i bothered my friends into watching with me in theatres #explained so many times......we r watching pinocchio (del toro) ((NOT fruity)) #and Yet.......every single one of them came up at sm point after the movie privately to tell me how pleased they were that #it was Normal and good #for the record i will be subjecting them to marathon of all other 2022 pinocchio incarnations over the holidays #where it will be FREE to witness their resignation in well lit environment #getting to this viewing was like unstoppable force (freak snowstorm) vs immovable object (our dedication to half price movie tuesdays) #with special guest appearance of our city flopping belly up whenever we get 0.5cm of snow cover

[harbingersecho]

misrecognition is not ignorance

#rvb #locus #sam ortez #samuel ortez #red vs blue #rvb locus #mine #art #*23 #i've been meaning to do smth w/ locus and misrecognition and mirror stage and fragmented body for ages... he's SOOOO!!! #sometimes u stumble upon some lacan or some sartre and bc you're v normal you're like. this is sooo locus #its abt the SUBJECT AND THE OBJECT AND VISIBILITY AND MAN IS CONDEMNED TO BE FREE AURGH BARK BARK. ok. #anyway i can talk abt locus til im dead BUT... i shan't #i wish i was a better writer tho... i feel like all my writing is just pretentious incomprehensible stream of thought musings lol. rip #but look at that. i FINALLY fucking finished something. it's been like three weeks and i just have a bunch of wips lol

[thefiresofpompeii]

i have a maybe lukewarm maybe hot take about this godforsaken show that some people could find mean, but i stand behind it, no elaboration (okay, some elaboration in the tags below… a lot of elaboration)

opinion: if you claim to like clara’s dynamic with the doctor and her character development in series 8 and 9, but simultaneously say you hate the impossible girl arc/elevenclara, you don’t actually understand anything about their relationship and what makes it the way that it is

#elaboration: it’s about the parallels. it’s about clara being the object of a mystery; the subject of a story VS writing her own story from #the name of the doctor onwards: refusing to become a puzzle box but taking it a step further and seeking to become the author of the #puzzles. it’s about her being chosen by missy all that time ago; because she was; among everything else; an avatar/projection of her #complicated feelings for the doctor in a way. a proxy that doesn’t know they’re a proxy #it’s about the mirroring of the impossible girl arc and heaven sent/hell bent! clara choosing of her own free will to splinter her identity #into millions upon millions of shards; dying over and over in every reality to save the doctor. compare to: the doctor choosing to spend #millions upon millions of years killing himself; dying over and over for the chance to save his clara. #the intertwined devotion! the complexity of their codependency! none of that would have developed the way it had if not for #clara being eleven’s impossible girl. she had to be a ghost story before she became a love story; and aren’t those two one in the same; as #stated in hide? #clara oswald #the impossible girl #twelveclara #whouffle #whouffaldi #doctor who #dw #peter capaldi #matt smith #jenna coleman #twelfth doctor #twelve #eleventh doctor #eleven #jamie catches up #jamie.txt #elevenclara

[c-rowlesdraws]

my character designs are for anyone who’s ever felt like a difficult creature to love.

#character design #in some kind of mood as I hover over my phone in the middle of making cookie dough #a post on the mass effect subreddit put me into an introspective mood but this also applies to everything I draw #I think maybe there is a #fundamental difference between people who see strange/monstrous/alien characters as subjects vs seeing them as objects #and people who are repulsed by a character the less human (let alone conventionally attractive) they look #versus people who are more compelled by/drawn to a character the farther from human they look #the difference between #i like you even though you're weird #and #i like you BECAUSE you're weird/I like your weirdness because it's part of you the person I like #catie talks

[indigosfindings]

always thinking about a video i saw years ago arguing that professional film critics are More Correct than the layperson because they're More Objective, and the example given was that a Professional might remark on things like contrast/affinity. the intended takeaway was that critics base their observations on Objective And Quantifiable Facts, unlike puerile commoners (whose opinions have nothing to do with the contents of the movie)

and like. there are a lot of things one could say about this, but what i keep thinking of is the sheer flimsiness of the argument. remarking on contrast is in fact not a qualitative observation! noting whether a shot is high-contrast says literally nothing about your opinion on it!! as soon as you tack on "...and that's a good thing," you're making a subjective statement! what function is served by claiming that certain opinions are ~Objective~, other than defending the idea of a Superior Intelligent Elite that the Uneducated Masses should look to for The Correct Opinions like a dog begging for table scraps

#the funniest part is that the video was by a self-professed anarchist #like yes let's defend the current academic institution as the sole vector of legitimate learning #and bifurcate all analysis into 'educated = objective = superior' vs 'uneducated = subjective = inferior' #this is an anarchist opinion.

[abimee]

i hope this helps people decode what im talking about when i give games i love poor ratings

#like i can recognize when i subjectively like smthn vs how it objectively plays/is written

[mintacle]

I think jason post resurrection produces facts, or aims to produce facts because after his resurrection everything is just really unsure. I also think he reacts in the most human and normal way to his resurrection: he goes insane at the incomprehensibility of it.

Yes! Jason's reaction as a victim is really incomprehensive to the dude-bro club but anyone who has experienced being a victim knows that Jason is really the voice of clear reason here in that he understands that none of this is reasonable at all or can be reasoned away or about.

He is also incredibly pragmatic in his approach and can be stone-cold, but everything he does is fueled by this steady fire of knowing deep down that you were wronged. Like, anger often burns bright and destroys everything, completely out of control, but Jason's rage is cold. It's the kind of rage you can nurture and use. And it doesn't explode violently, but burns and burns as a fire that drived him on. He isn't unreasonable at all, he just understands emotion and subjectivity is a part of reason and that makes him terrifying. He is what people don't want to confront. So this terror at the raw emotionality is dismissed by laighing at him. When people laigh at you for crying or showing how upset you are, it's because they don't know how to deal with that and it scares them.

Jason has both emotion, intellect and skill down, the first of which is often neglected in patriarchal worldviews, and the fact that he doesn't seperate facts from feelings makes him very relatable to victims and we see Jason and think, That's what I've been talking about!

#ask answered #jason todd #the importance of both emotion and intellect I can't stredd ut enough #it angerd me that the world neglects subjective reality in a glirification of objectivity #like dyscivilization in bureaucracy has not taught us our fucking lesson #this is just enlightenment vs romanticism: electric boogaloo #same argument. different millenia #biting my fist #bc I believe in showing raw emotions #rambling #thx for the ask!

[zvaigzdelasas]

When ability for food acquisition is directly dependent on the amount of land one owns, then there is a qualitative difference between 'one who owns enough land to reliably feed themselves & their family' & 'one who technically owns land but cannot use it to reliably feed themselves & their family'.

#this is a post on the objective qualitative distinctions among the peasantry #& not cleanly applicable to subjects created with access to a market economy #also! qualitative difference between 'enough land to provide in reasonably-expectable hard times' #vs 'enough to provide in reasonably-expectable easy times' #the degree to which this rubric is applicable to the proletarian subject is debstable & imo a qualitatively novel avenue of debate

[thegreatyin]

upon reflection several months later i have to admit. bg3 doesn't have the greatest story ever. but is it still really good and really enjoyable and really top tier? hell yeah brother

#i think if you had to ask me at gunpoint i'd rank it below the shadowbringers expansion from hit catboy dressup simulator final fantasy 14 #but that's a REALLY really really really high bar to clear #and bg3 by itself is already clearing a lot of other excellent games in their own rights #yin-thoughts #baldur's gate 3 #it's a very well written and surprisingly airtight plot and most of the problems i have with its story come down to like #presentation and obviously dropped plotlines and some characters being clearly loved by the devs more than others #(coughs. a certain vampire twink compared to my man wyll) #i cant stress enough that these critiques of it are not saying i hate it it's literally my favorite rpg ever i adore it with all my heart #it's like. objectively i would not put it at the tier of best video game story of all time. sorta like lonetrail vs lingering echoes #but subjectively i adore both and love one more closely to my heart than the other #yknow? #idk if im making sense. im rambling too much. these tags are too long. ignore me

[throttlegainwell]

The thing about "who" vs. "whom" when you're writing from a character's POV is that it's not about which is correct. It's about whether they'd know how to use "whom" correctly and whether they give a shit.

Like, does "whom" feel right in this moment, in this particular character's mind. And the answer is sometimes yes and sometimes no, but also it's sometimes whichever answer makes the line funnier.

#writing tag #sometimes it's a nice way to show some information about a character #insomuch as understanding subject vs. object can suggest anything about a character #so it can add to a voice in a subtle way #but also sometimes a well-placed whom knocks me out and it's just funny in context #it's about the vibes

[religion-is-a-mental-illness]

#Seerut Chawla #emotional reasoning #feelings #objective reality #feelings vs reality #reality vs feelings #subjective reality #lived experience #religion is a mental illness

[dr-lizortecho]

love losing followers over calling things outside of being physically beaten trauma, it’s genuinely hilarious to me

#it’s objectively funny vs the subjective funny of people blocking me cause I like Tyler Lockwood #anyways shockingly almost every single rnm character and tvd character have unresolved traumas #except funnily enough Alex Manes and Tyler Lockwood #cause the writers knew how to address physicality better than anything else #tw trauma #tw child abuse

[leefi]

can someone who knows more japanese than me explain (or point me to explanations) the rhyme and reason behind particles…like why is it コーヒーを飲みます in this case and 紅茶が欲しいです in this one

#basically what I’m asking is what is causing を vs. が？ #woof #is it a subject-object thing?

[argenpluma]

𝐖𝐇𝐀𝐓 𝐅𝐎𝐑𝐌 𝐎𝐅 𝐋𝐎𝐕𝐄 𝐃𝐎 𝐘𝐎𝐔 𝐄𝐌𝐁𝐎𝐃𝐘﹖

LOVE AS RELIGION : ㅤㅤㅤ[ㅤlove as the sole object of your reverence ⸺ nothing about you is holy, ㅤbut maybe your love for another isㅤ] ㅤㅤwhen sappho said ㅤ" in the crooks of your body i find my religion " ㅤand when the cast of les mis sang ㅤ" to love another person is to see the face of God " ㅤand when halsey said ㅤ" i found God,ㅤ i found him in a lover " ㅤand when katherine philips wrote ㅤ" to the dull angry world let's prove there's a religion in our love "

#thank you anouk for gracing the dash with this quiz game --- and promptly making me lose my mind asdfdsagfh #to the surprise of no one who spent more than five minutes with me (when talking about warren) : #love is a form of worship. a sign of god. a gift from heaven. #warren loves and the object / subject of his love becomes divine in the sense of godly. #( hence why it is so easy for him to see scott as someone Right & Good despite everything. #his eagerness to ensure scott remains with his hands clean) #((it is why warren and betsy are so interesting. they each seek in the other their own form of penance and redemption)) #((but warren refuses to deal with the “unsavory” bits and betsy refuses to see him as les than the angel. #when they finally do? they break. because what betsy finds is a weapon like her and that's not what warren wants for himself or from her)) #and this whole warped sense of devotion is twisted (as everything about warren ever is) #because warren at his core --- for all good he does --- is not a “good” person #(in the traditional moral sense of good vs. bad that's inherent to western thinking and also by catholicism) #he will make you breakfast and kiss you good morning and he will tear someone to pieces with those same hands and he will rewrite the world #and it's all for love. #(yes this is about that scene in x-force #but this is also about the age of archangel --- wanting a better world and wanting to be worshipped and not having qualms with the methods #how far from the real warren is that??? how much andju really had to destroy and reform???) #the angel takes love and makes it about devotion and servitude #an angel is primarily a messenger of god but also god's soldier #he is willing and able. #*´ ❪ theory. ❫ㅤ ››› ㅤsome of it is obscene and bestial﹐ some of it is pure and holy : all of it is myself . #*´ ❪ thesis. ❫ㅤ ››› ㅤi have no meaning unless i am wounded﹐ torn apart and sacrificed . #( even my tags allude to that gosh )

[sparrowsabre7]

One thing that bugs me with the "Andor" discourse is the renewed obession with what constitutes "good Star Wars". While it's something I've been guilty of too, the question "is it good?" is ultimately a meaningless and irrelevant question for most people. People are so diverse in tastes and opinions that there will never be one unifyingly "good" movie or piece of media that the entire world looks at and agree "yes, that is what a good thing looks like". And even if they did, what then? What do you do with that information? Do you stop making that kind of thing because a universally agreed upon best version has been made?

Fundamentally, the only question a piece of media need answer us is "Did I like it?".

#star wars #andor #media #quality #objective vs subjective