i do love fun nitpicking of the lotr movies, but the one thing people will point out that bothers me is “meat’s back on the menu”
they’ll be like “how do orcs know about menus???”
but guys middle earth has a reasonably high probability of having menus, im sure they have restaurants and we know they have inns/pubs/taverns/etc that sell food, so they gotta have menus, we have no reason to think orcs are unaware of any other general purpose item in middle earth, why would menus be a blind spot?
at minimum we’re assuming that no orc has ever attacked an inn which is ridiculous, and if they’ve attacked an inn then it’s reasonable to assume they’ve sacked the place looking for usable stuff which means they’ve undoubtedly come across a menu, and if one restaurant’s been attacked then probably many have been attacked and then we have a reasonably large amount of orcs that know about menus and could spread the word and we really only need that one group of orcs to know about them
also, there’s no reason that they couldn’t have their own menus? we know that they grow food in mordor in the books at least, and we hear and see no contradiction to that in the movies, so then the question becomes: how do they distribute it? could be restaurants
now im not saying that’s likely, but i AM saying it’s a possibility and that therefore orcs could reasonably know what menus are
also since there’s technically no evidence to suggest there’s no restaurants in mordor, i propose we instead put our thoughts of orcs and menus to thoughts of orc restaurant inspections! i want the orc version of kitchen nightmares! undercover boss but sauron’s a line cook! where’s orc!gordan ramsey?? what is, in fact, on the menu?? we know they know about menus, make them use them!
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don’t know what it means but turns out the stuff I go absolutely the most apeshit for is created by New Zealanders
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2022 reread: I've totally and utterly lost count of how many times I've read this book, but two things struck me this time:
-Frodo's Age: I'm getting closer and closer to Frodo's age when he begins this epic and personally destroying adventure, and I find myself seeing Frodo in a whole new light. You see his calmness, his wisdom, his love of the younger Hobbits, the agony of knowing the burden he bears, it all takes on a new weight when you look at it from the perspective of a 50ish-year-old man instead of a 20ish-year-old young man. The journey has more solemnity to it, and you understand the upheaval it brings to a more settled, tired point in life. You understand that he is closer in age to Aragorn than Merry and Pippin. This is another area where I think the movies lost something. The movie Frodo is far too young. Going on an adventure as a person in your 50s is way different than going on an adventure in your 20s.
-Gimil's Gift: The whole Lothlorien scene is still one of my favorites in the book. It is so elvish, more elvish than anything else Tolkien wrote. You can truly sense the beauty, timelessness, magic, joy, and sadness of these beings. Gimil's gift always makes me cry, but what struck me this time was how it brought the elves and dwarves full circle, uniting them back together. Dwarves murdered Thingol in Doriath. Thingol was kin to Celeborn, and Galadriel lived with them in Doriath for many, many years. If anyone has a right to hate Dwarves it's Celeborn and Galadriel, and yet, Galadriel goes out of her way to welcome and heal much of the rift between elves and dwarves, which is probably what makes way for Legolas and Gimli to be such friends. That relationship starts in Lothlorien. What delight must it have brought Tolkien to write some of those scenes, even knowing that his readers at the time wouldn't grasp their depths, and how thankful I am for the Silmarillion.
I love it!!!
Also, speaking of the movies, Gimli, Merry, and Pippin are all such more well-rounded, solid, courageous, and wonderful in the book. Just saying. And don't get me started on Aragorn.
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"Aragorn and Eowyn || ghost"
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I don't know if you know The Lord of the Rings universe, but I'm a big fan! How would you like to imagine the Greens in this universe? I like to imagine Aemond and Helaena as elves, I really think it suits them.
yes, surely I do know and this time I've even read the books 🤣 long time ago but I did read The Trilogy and The Hobbit. I watched the movies multiple times and recently got into The Rings of Power.
I am not the biggest fan ever because there is something odd about this universe, I cannot fully explain... The same thing I feel about Narnia, it's just... Too serious? Too fairytale like? IDK, I can't picture myself in those stories like I can in GoT for example. GoT feels more realistic I guess...
Helaena would be an elf like Galadriela and Aemond would be more like Thranduil in my opinion. Aegon would be human, Aragorn type or Saruman from The Rings of Power haha
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I now have 111 followers
My account has as many followers as Bilbo's age at the start of LOTR
so here is to my 111 followers a Bilbo post.
so I will give you the definition of what the word Bilbo means.
bilbo
noun (1)
bil·bo | \ ˈbil-(ˌ)bō \
plural bilboes
: a long bar of iron with sliding shackles used to confine the feet of prisoners especially on shipboard
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DO YOU KNOW THIS CHARACTER?
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Aragorn
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the fellowship
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i can only fit so many, so if you’re fav isn’t on here please put them in the tags as an honorable mention!!
this is not about whether or not the cut was reasonable, this pure background blorbo love <3
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“You do not command the others to stay. They fight beside you because they would not be parted from you! Because they love you...”
“The character of Arwen was introduced very late. Originally, Aragorn was to marry Éowyn, then Tolkien decided Éowyn should die and Aragorn never marry because he didn't get over his grief. Tolkien's wife convinced him not to kill Éowyn, so Arwen came into being (this is part of why her and Aragorn's story is included in the Appendices rather than the book itself). This created a fair amount of Fan Wank even when the books first came out, with some wishing he'd married Éowyn as originally planned”.- tvtropes.org
“Aragorn is destined to be a king of peace, he does not accept the crown until a time when Sauron is defeated and no enemy still stands before Gondor, for this reason he should have a queen of like mind, a queen to nurture and support her king and the people as they set about rebuilding a world so stricken by evil deeds. Through the union of Aragorn and Eowyn, the world would be able to rebuild and move forward without the threat of outside evils causing destruction and pain, for their king and queen had already vanquished the evil, and so proven themselves in battle that no feasible foe could bring their reign to an end.”
“By wedding Eowyn and making her his queen, Aragorn would have solidified the union of Rohan and Gondor as one kingdom, allies against any threat that either faces. The people of Gondor and Rohan, was well as the Dunedain in the north, would benefit greatly from having a queen of the people. Eowyn fought, and almost died for the sake of mankind, and had lived for her entire life under the shadow of impending doom set forth by Sauron and exemplified by Saruman’s treachery. She understands the trials that men face and the spirit with which they can rise up and turn the worst situation into hope and revitalization.”
“Eowyn’s character traits and personality speak volumes towards her ability to be a great queen, thought the direction that Middle Earth is headed and the future of the Men also suggest that Eowyn would have done great things as Aragorn’s queen.” - 10-1-2015 Eowyn as Queen Brian Scheidt Marquette University
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the lord of the rings movies do lore dumping so good and precisely
they use a mixture of both show AND tell and its really affective, especially in conveying plot to people who havent read the books
while i know a good deal of the lore just from watching the movies in the background a bunch as a kid, and from pop culture, i havent watched the movies with a conscious understanding before, and i sure as hell havent ever fully comprehended everything and even misremembered a lot, but the movie really does convey the information very well
especially because of how many words and phrases get thrown around,and it fees so natural yet subtly explained in different ways, like with words to clue you in, it feels more real and also magical that way
that may also just be tolkien and how he wrote the story and all that, and/or maybe just because its been ingrained in society in a way for so long that everyone kinda just Knows the basic elements and so understanding the more deep lore shit isnt that hard in reference to what you do know
idk this got so rambly but i really do enjoy these movies and i havent read the book so i obviously dont know how accurate it is but i mean based on how the movies are regarded,either way theyre pretty damn good
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Taking a 5-second break from the Bagginshield angst to bring you this meme I created after an all-nighter, enjoy.
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In the LOTR movie, the Hobbits are all about the same age, but in the book Frodo is 50 and the others are in their late 20s to early 30s, maybe. There is some sober reality lost when the Hobbits are the same age and all young. I hadn't noticed this before, but now in my 40s with friends who are in their 20s, I sense Frido's concerns about dragging them all on this very dangerous adventure. It creates a beautiful and layered dynamic that is better understood with age. There is a settled confidence that you gain in your 40s, and a sorrow at the trials young people must face to gain their own settled confidence. I'm picking up hints of that in my current reread because I'm reading it closer and closer to Frodo's age.
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