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mc-slowwalker · 3 years

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I am curious how you have parasocial beef with hasan. Is it the way he’s known for yelling at his twitch chat in order to get them in line when they get too unruly?

No I think more streamers should yell at their chats actually I’m a mc twitch stream enjoyer these chats SUCK

It’s more the pattern of casual ableism from him? And I’m sure that he’d call me a neoliberal or whatever for saying that but I still think it’s important to talk about. The specific thing that prompted that post was him watching nancy pelosi act a fool and then he went on to talk about how he hates that “they can’t string two sentences together” and being upset that democratic political figures trip over their words and stutter a lot. Someone in the chat called him ableist which prompted him to go on a rant about how he is ableist when it comes to people in power and referenced one of the american presidents who had Alzheimer’s. This reaction was pretty extreme and comparing having difficultly speaking in public to a person with a life altering neurological disease is just straight up a bad comparison. He has a point there are certain jobs that can’t/shouldn’t be done but then you start to argue about personal freedoms vs general freedoms. That’s not what this is about though. He uses a logical fallacy to argue his point, which may be effective for some but overall is a detriment to his argument. Instead of attacking the argument he doesn’t like (rightfully so btw fuck rich people) he’s attacking them personally and their traits. He is just expressing annoyance at having difficultly understanding them, but he puts this out as a conclusion that public speakers shouldn’t have issues speaking in public. To some extent I agree again. Donald trump and george w bush were huge mistakes those dudes should have never been put in the positions of power they were in. They were bad public speakers, but people like joe biden and nancy pelosi are just not that great at speaking, not so much focused on the public part. Nancy pelosi was tripping over her words because she was lying out her ass, but the generalization that people who aren’t good at speaking shouldn’t be in public speaking and/or hold positions of power is entirely unhelpful. If it was just this I’d probably look over it, but I have the prior knowledge that he said the r slur (which someone pointed out that it could have been a long time ago when that was normalized but I don’t know when this happened) and a different person pointed out that he’s never apologized for it. I don’t need a public apology if the person have actively phased the word out of their vocabulary like hasan has done, but I’ve seen occasions when him saying that has been brought up and he’s been fairly dismissive of it

I don’t think hasan is a bad person and I know he’s pretty smart. Someone pointed out to me (in dms again) that hasan is more of a big picture guy. That makes sense and I do commend him for that, I just think that making the world a better place starts at home with you. I’m sure he’s nice to the people around him, but when arguing with someone it’s important that you respect them. If you don’t respect the person you’re arguing with, you shouldn’t be arguing with them because they’re just not worth your time. If you don’t respect your opponent they for sure won’t respect you. This is how I was taught to argue anyways

I’ve talked to a few people in dms and learned that hasan does have ADHD. I do as well and I think there’s for sure a conversation to be had there about ableism in adhd people. ADHD is fairly accepted to a point, it’s treated as cant sit still disease by the majority of the population while other mental illnesses are demonized heavily. ADHD and ASD have so so much in common yet Autism is heavily demonized while adhd is not. It’s easy for a lot of adhd people to fall into “I’m weird but others are more weird” because the desire to be neurotypical is strong. It makes sense, you want to be like your peers, but this can lead to a sort of entitlement that allows you to be ableist against other neurodivergent people. To be honest, I don’t know if this is what is happening to hasanabi, this is more of a general observation if anything. Honestly I could write an essay on a lot of this stuff and I may, I just feel weird sharing it because sharing stuff I’m passionate about is allowing a vulnerability that I’m still working with myself to be okay with

#ask #anon #tw abelism #long post #also this is free to debate!!!#fuck me up I want to be wrong #also I’ve been spelling nancy wrong for the past several hours #forgot the second n #hasanabi critical #ask to tag ig

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adriensaltprompts · 4 years

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i remember a few months back i saw a post that said to block you cuz you tagged adrien salt as sugar apparently but now that i’ve gone through your main i see that you’re actually one of the few people in this fandom with common sense and i respect you for trying to inform people about the problematic things happening in the show

They’re talking about @adriensugarprompts, which is for adrien redemption prompts. Which are tagged as Adrien sugar, BECAUSE THEY ARE. They’re showing Adrien learning from his mistakes and becoming a better person and becoming a happier, healthier person with good strong relationships with everyone around him (except Gabriel, obviously.) and getting a happy ending. That’s sugar.

Alya realizes she’s hurting Marinette, thinking through her actions, and apologizing? Sugar. Lila realizing she can make friends if she’s honest and coming clean and turning over a new leaf? Sugar. Chloe being determined that she wants to be a better person so Ladybug will be proud of her, and actually putting in the time and effort to be a better person? Sugar.

Adrien stans somehow think that Adrien fixing his mistakes and becoming a better person ISN’T sugar, even though that’s literally the definition that this fandom is working with.

They don’t want Adrien to be redeemed. I’ve seen the “sugar” they write, and it’s literally just Adrien feeling sorry for himself and every character and their mother rushing to assure him he hasn’t done anything wrong.

They don’t want to admit he’s ever done anything wrong at all. They refuse to admit he’s not perfect. I created that blog so that people who like him and want him to grow can send in or find prompts where that happens.

If they refuse to accept that Adrien isn’t perfect? That’s their problem, not mine. It doesn’t mean the prompts on that blog aren’t sugar. It just means those people are incapable of admitting that Adrien has ever done anything wrong.

And yeah, if they don’t like that, they can block me. I don’t care if people block me. This is social media. If you don’t want to see my posts? Block me and block the specific tags I use.

It should be noted that I was the one who ended up blocking all these people, not the other way around. It wasn’t that they didn’t want to see my posts. They want my posts to not exist. They want everyone to go on believing that Adrien is perfect and has never done anything wrong. Because I guess they don’t realize that there’s nothing wrong with liking characters who are bad people.

Literally here’s the link to the first post I made on that blog, and since that blog has a grand total of 22 posts, it should only take maybe a minute to scroll through all the prompts and see what kind of content these people are declaring as salt. (Most of them aren’t even prompts, they’re updates on the rules for that blog, this one, and @mlwritingprompts, which are all being run by me. Because Adrien stans were declaring that I was “disguising” myself as a sugar blog.....even though it literally says my name in the About. Like I literally say in the introductory post that this blog is being run by Rjalker. What a fantastic disguise, am I right????)

Anyways if anyone want to submit prompts where Adrien redeems himself, send them to @adriensugarprompts because unlike this blog, and mlwritingprompts, I’m not going to go out of my way to make any.

And thanks. It’s literally not possible for me to be in a fandom and not talk about the harmful things the canon and the fandom are spouting. I would literally LOVE it if Adrien were actually the adorable pure feminist cinnamon roll his stans declare him to be. Like,,,,,,,,,do they think I like watching Marinette get harassed?????

I would fucking love to be able to sit down and watch a kids show and not have rape culture and misogyny shoved down my throat as the height of romance.

It’s also REALLY FUCKING CREEPY that a lot of the Adrien stans I’ve seen are adults. Like, adults over the age of thirty. Which is just fucked up on so many levels. These people are older than me, so they literally have no excuse to be defending Adrien’s behavior. Especially when they’re, as a specific example, forty five year old men saying that if you critisize the way Adrien treats people, you are demonizing victims of abuse, because according to Adrien stans, if you are abused, you have NO CHOICE but to go on to abuse others.

I was abused. It’s not an excuse. And for grown ass adults to be telling impressionable children that if you’re abused, you’re going to go on to abuse other people????? These fucking people are telling children that people who are abused have NO CHOICE but to abuse other people. Do I even need to explain how fucked up and damaging that is????

Not only to the children who are being abused right fucking now, but because that is literally the excuse domestic violence perpretrators use to trap their victims in relationships with them. “I was abused, I can’t help it, it’s not my fault, you can’t blame me, I had a terrible childhood” is literally how victims get guilt-tripped into staying in relationships with their abusers.

Spreading that idea is DAMAGING not only to the abused children hearing that they’re destined to be just as bad as the people hurting them, but it’s also fucking priming them to become victims of domestic violence, because the idea is already being drilled into their heads that if the person hurting you was abused, it’s not their fault they’re hurting you, instead of being mad at them for how they hurt you, you should forgive them and try to help them.

I literally refuse to sit by and let people--LITERALLY!!! THEY ARE OLDER THAN ME!!!! I AM TWENTY FIVE!!!!! THERE IS LITERALLY NO EXCUSE!!!!--say this shit without consequences.

The kind of shit Adrien stans say to defend him? They’re either spouting victim-blaming bullshit, actual rape apologism, or fucking telling kids that being abused means you have no choice but to go on to abuse others.

It doesn’t matter if you are abused. It doesn’t matter if you’re mentally ill or neurodivergent. It is literally always your responsiblity to be a good person. It is literally always your responsibility to treat other people with basic human decency. No one on this Earth can control your actions except you. If you treat other people badly, that is on no one but you. Your abusers do not control you. They do not control your destiny. You get to choose whether or not you abuse other people. You get to choose whether or not to be a good person.

Sorry about the rant but I’ve had it up to here with Adrien stans lately. They just keep getting more and more fucking evil with their fucking arguments. They’ve literally told me that it doesn’t matter that she’s said no, she’s still consenting. Dear fucking god. This is why I block them on sight.

#not a prompt #replies #shit adrien stans say #Anonymous #Miraculous Ladybug #adriensaltprompts #Show!Miraculous #Show!Marinette #Show!Adrien

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