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anti-endo-haven · 1 month

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deadass got told by an ENDO "system" that we're faking osdd bc i cant choose my headmates and bc we dont have a lot of fictives. BABES PLS JS ADMIT U DONT HAVE IT 😭😭 THATS NOT HOW THESE DISORDERS WORK BRO PLS /nav

Endos can’t say anything when they’re forcing people to believe they may or may not have a glamorized form of a trauma disorder.

You also… don’t need to have a lot of fictives to be a system. Every system is different. Some will have a lot of fictives/factices and less brain made, vice versa.

One system cannot be the pinnacle of all systems as everyone is subjected to their own brain deeming what it does and doesn’t need.

I’m sorry that an endo fakeclaimed you. That just seems weird and awkward.

#anti endo #endos dni #did system #system #osddid #actually did #traumagenic system #endos not for you #actually traumagenic #did plural #did plurality #osdd plural #osdd plurality #syscourse #tw fakeclaiming mention #tw fakeclaiming

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median-culture-is · 3 months

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median culture is your system sliding down to the more singlet end of the spectrum and fakeclaiming yourself a bit till you remember that your sys moves around on the spectrum. (I feel a bit silly, I don't know how I just forgot about that.)

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#kajdj #actually median #actually plural #actuallymedian #median system #plural #median culture #plural system #actuallyplural #median culture is #median #tw fakeclaiming mention

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screaming-heart · 1 year

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OOH OOH OOH ALSO

(tw for mentions of fakeclaiming)

its interesting how fakeclaimers will be like "ohohoh edgy evil / demon / whatever alter hahaha so fake lmao" as if having alters who portray themselves as scary or evil wouldn't be a good thing for some people?

a lot of my trauma stems from me being too scared to stand up for myself + having very weird emotions, so of COURSE a lot of alters made to protect me from that would be scary ass fuckers who don't feel things. that literally makes logical fucking sense.

also, no, having an alter who appears to be shitty as hell or says they're "evil" isn't the evil alter stereotype. 1, alters have their own identities, and can be shitty like any other person, and 2, many alters who say they are evil do it for trauma reasons like what i JUST MENTIONED! me having a demon alter literally named Devil who happens to not feel much strong emotion and acts like an asshole to both the rest of the system and other people isn't grounds for fakeclaiming because this fucker stems from WELL KNOWN types of trauma

- blurry

#actually did #did system #did #dissociative identity disorder #system stuff #endos + supporters dni #polyfrag system #osdd #tw fakeclaiming mention #tw fakeclaiming ment #polyfragmented #im adding a lot of tags bc idk how to use tumblr so sorry if this is like a breach of tumblr etiquette or something -\._./-

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diedbydeath · 3 months

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i hate the fact that i used to be a terf i hate the fact that i used to be a radfem i hate the fact that i used to be transphobic i hate the fact that i used to be in fakeclaiming subreddits i hate the fact that i used to think cringe culture was cool i hate the fact that i used to be homophobic i hate the fact that i used to be queerphobic i hate past me RAAAAGGH IM FULL OF RAGEEEEEE

#just me doing my daily affirmations #vent ish #tw caps #tw queerphobia mention #tw transphobia mention #tw homophobia mention #tw cringe culture mention #tw terf mention #tw radfem mention #tw fakeclaiming mention

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werewolf-pack-system · 4 months

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I feel fake. We haven't switched in days. I can still hear the others, but even when they want to take front, there's something there stopping them. It just... makes me feel like I'm making things up. I know I'm not; several events have evidenced otherwise. But that doesn't help me feel any less like I'm faking 😔

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murielsbottombitch · 10 months

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"you're faking your disability for attention"

why would I spend a bunch of money on mobility aids just for attention?

I could spend that money on an onlyfans model and get much more attention.

#tw ableism #ableism #tw fakeclaiming #anti fakeclaiming #fakeclaiming mention #fakeclaiming cw #fuck fakeclaimers #fakeclaiming #chronic disability #chronic fatigue #chronic illness #chronically ill #chronic pain #cripplepunk #spoonie #text post

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puppyoclock · 3 days

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average DID study: we assessed TWO people (representative of the entire DID population) who were diagnosed using the DSM negative twelve (which the dinosaurs used). we told a story and then asked them to tell us ONE thing about it, then gave them a score of how well they remembered the story based on the vibes of what they told us. they remembered anything at all, so the conclusion to take from that is that they were probably making everything up. more research needed

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the-100-percent · 1 month

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Guess what (not out yet) endo system had to hold back tears when their mom was talking about how endos aren't real! 🤫🧏🎉🥰

Oh oh! And guess what? She kept bringing up "Alastor" as a sign they are faking being a system! And guess who was co-fronting with me when this was happening? 🥳🥳

-🏳️‍🌈

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cccat-in-a-meat-sack · 3 months

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Guys, apparently if you use neopronouns and you're a system you're faking )):

Sorry to be the one to inform you )):

#got this from r/syscringe smh #tw fakeclaiming #fakeclaiming mention #anti fakeclaiming #traumagenic did #did alter #did system #actually did #did osdd #endos dni #traumagenic system #anti endo #anti endogenic #fuck endos #calico has spots

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sappy-sabbath · 2 months

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as a society can we stop making mental illness/neurodivergency trendy and romanticized. i know more mf who faked claim than ppl who actually had the condition. at the end it just makes the people who are diagnosed with the condition the butt of the joke or look disingenuous.

ALSO IF I MAY be real for a sec!!! it’s because of the “destigmatizing XYZ 🥺” tiktoks and self diagnosing that make this happen, i know they are good intent and not all people have resources but its one thing to be concerned about your mental health and another to claim to have a disorder that you haven’t been diagnosed with!

autism, ADHD, schizophrenia, BPD, bipolar disorder, psychosis, OCD have all became quirks than serious debilitating condition and as someone with ADHD and psychotic depression IM SICK OF ITTTT, it’s different with things like depression and anxiety bc you experience that at least once in your life but it’s getting out of hand

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anti-endo-haven · 24 days

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Hey you answered this

"You know yourself more than what I and others can, even if it comes down to it, no one else can tell you if you are or aren’t a system. Only you can. And if you have a list of why you believe you’re a system, use it as a means of trying to help you out. Use grounding methods as well."

On another ask. And I was wondering, you aren't one of the people who believe that self diagnosis is more valid than professional diagnosises?

Like I'm self diagnosis positive, but statements like this always make me iffy,,

No. I see both as a means of getting things wrong. Everyone makes mistakes, even professionals. And both self diagnosis and professional diagnosis can be wrong.

I said that as a means of saying that I cannot say what is or isn’t true. It isn’t up to me or people that fake claim people to decide if someone is or a system or not. The rest is tips for if someone can try self-help if therapy is hard or not an available option at that moment.

It’s more so to say that seeking validation from strangers online can do more harm than good.

#anti endo #endos dni #did system #system #osddid #actually did #traumagenic system #did plural #endos not for you #actually traumagenic #did plurality #osdd plural #osdd plurality #tw fakeclaiming mention

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antiendovents · 13 days

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// fakeclaiming rant + ableism/sanism + caps + minor talk of stalking

Endos and singlets fakeclaiming other systems because of a high amount of comorbidies or even just a single stigmatized comorbid disorder piss me off so so so bad

They're a system, they have trauma, of course their brains are gonna react funky to that how the fuck do you think they became a system in the first place???

Why are you surprised when a system has ptsd, any cluster b disorder, other dissociative disorders, aspd, autism, adhd, etc etc etc

Especially because iirc autism and ADHD make you likely to develop MORE disorders from trauma!!

Don't even get me started on those who fakeclaim psychotic systems because they experience delusions, GO FUCK YOURSELF!!! LEARN HOW SCHIZOPHRENIA AND PSYCHOSIS WORK BEFORE YOU SPREAD YOUR UNEDUCATED BULLSHIT!!! PPL WITH PSYCHOSIS CAN BE COMORBID AND NOT BE AUTOMATICALLY FAKING IT.

There's also people who go "omg I wish I had your trauma!!" (usually in response to stalking, and usually romanticizing/sexualizing it) but if I start on that we'll here all day. Just going to leave it at this: one time we say someone call a fellow victim of stalking "lucky" for being stalked. For two years straight.

Endos and fakeclaimers go fuck yourself I'm sffr.

- 🍖🌾 (if I'm allowed to claim this)

oh, yeah this sucks. Fakeclaimers are the worst, having co-morbid disorders is common,, that's why they're co-morbid. Being a system and experiencing delusions or psychosis is valid and if anyone thinks otherwise I'd like them to leave this blog

And yeah,, that sucks. Don't sexualize or romanticise others trauma. If it's your own trauma then I guess it's fine?? I mean I won't judge people for how they cope though I'd prefer they keep it offline, but when it comes to other people please leave them alone :(

#anti endo #endos dni #did #did system #plural #system #actually did #alters #endos fuck off #did osdd #🍖🌾 anon #Tw fakeclaiming #Tw ableist #Tw sanism #Tw stalking mention

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cavityinmybrain · 1 year

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something else that made me personally change my ideas on syscourse was that my system didn’t function like a lot of anti-endos. i relate much more to things that people say are “faking.”

not everyone in my system is aware of themselves as a person. we dont know how many there are, but we have a lot of fragments. pieces will show up and front with specific memories and we can target where they’re from and they’ll never front again. my system kept going entirely dormant/unaware for months repeatedly. i got worse amnesia about my life and lived experiences. i felt like i was doing it all for attention. except its been happening for as long as i remember.

seeing people poke holes in others experience to say they’re “faking” was really bad for my denial. now im seeing a therapist and thats kinda helping.

so yeah, when you fakeclaim, you hurt people who experience whatever looks “fake” to you.

#yeahhh our system is waking up again thanks to having a new therapist #hopefully she believes us #its really hard to explain whats going on in my head a lot of the time #plural #system #multiplicity #traumagenic #traumagenic system #fakeclaiming cw #fakeclaiming mention #tw fakeclaiming #fuck fakeclaimers #for making me feel like i was crazy #endo safe #endo friendly

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shining-star-system · 4 months

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This is something I want to talk about in a blog I feel needs to be said.

We used to think that syscord servers were a major help since we used to be in one that had ample opportunity to ask other systems about something. And then we realized, it’s not helping at all. We’ve spent so much time telling ourselves we’re fake while being on a syscord server because the fear that even though we know we aren’t, we could be fake claimed at any given chance because something to someone else might not be “normal.”

We would feel like we needed validation for having more brain-mades, having low stress issues, anything. It’s almost like there’s a societal pressure of what is and isn’t “normal” in the system community. You can’t be yourself anymore without someone walking in and saying “You do something differently than I do so you can’t do this” and then saying that you’re not real.

Or how often you have to give your life story to people when that’s dangerous to do. Yes, wanting people to know isn’t a bad thing but it’s almost like trauma is now becoming… competitive. Cringe is posted because why not?

A higher count or lower count can get you faleclaimed. More introjects than brainmades can make you get fakeclaimed.

Why must it be this way? Why can’t we let systems live? Final fusion, functional multiplicity, whatever.

It’s gotten to the point that we have gotten so far into thinking: “Well, what if it’s just roleplay?” and causing us issues especially when we’re alone and still switching or dissociating or whatever. We’ve worried that our month long breakdown of traumatic memories were false because of syscord servers and media intake.

We haven’t been able to properly live without the fear that we have to be a certain way to be able to be considered a system even though we are one.

It’s strange how media of any kind can stop someone from being able to heal and grow and be stuck in the same loop over and over again.

Please stay safe, especially with things like this.

#did #system #did system #dissociative identity disorder #did osdd #osddid #plurality #tw fakeclaiming mentions #kind of a vent?#somewhat a rant too?#my thoughts of syscord #really takes away from your ability to function #i’m so hoping moving away from things like this improves our mental health #endos dni #endos do not interact

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thelookoutsystem · 1 year

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Something needs to be said: Fakeclaiming is INCREDIBLY mentally damaging, and it's never acceptable. No matter HOW justified you feel doing it.

Especially regarding systems, if you don't 100% know with undeniable proof that a person is "faking" being a system, fakeclaiming them can harm them in ways you would never even think about. Most systems (diagnosed or not) deal with denial on a very regular basis. DID/OSDD is a covert disorder, literally designed to hide itself from the person who has it. The brain will attempt to "logic away" any of their symptoms and chalk it up to delusions, a wild imagination, faking for attention, etc. So when you target a system who likely is already struggling with these thoughts and say "yes, you ARE faking this disorder", you're validating an incredibly harmful train of thought they are already having.

If you think a person is faking a disorder, fakeclaiming them will only give them the attention they want. If you think they're wrong about the disorder they have, then that's not a valid excuse to harass or fakeclaim them. There is genuinely no good excuse to fakeclaim anybody, as it will encourage genuine fakers (which are VERY few and far between) and discourage actual systems from talking about their experiences and discovering themselves.

#anti fakeclaiming #tw fakeclaiming #did system #dissociative amnesia #dissociative identity disorder #osdd system #fakeclaiming mention #plurality

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circular-bircular · 6 months

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hi, have you ever read "normal dimensions of multiple personality without amnesia"? i really have no idea how to read these kinds of things but i'm super interested in them, and from my very lacking understanding of it, i thought it might be some validity for endogenic plurality? but again- i really don't understand these things so i'm probably misunderstanding. so! i was wondering if you had any thoughts on it, and perhaps could explain it in simpler terms for those of us who haven't learnt to read these things :)

Hello! Yes, I have unfortunately read that article. It is a fakeclaiming, ableist abomination, in my opinion.

A summary of my thoughts: The authors of the piece, in an attempt to "prove endogenic plurality," suggest that DID is fake, that those who have DID just "gave themselves" the trauma, and that the only pathologic part of DID is the amnesia those systems face. It uses the Fantasy Model (a version of the False Memory Model, wherein people just Fantasize their trauma) to fakeclaim a diagnosed system from a case study.

I wrote an entire debunk of the article over on my alternative blog.

I am disgusted by the researchers of this article, and I'm glad you sought out someone to explain a bit more. If you don't want to slog through that full link, I can give a bit more analysis below (rather than the liveblogging I need to do to get through articles such as that one, since I also struggle with dissecting medical literature!)

TW below for fakeclaiming of both systemhood and multiple types of trauma (sexual, physical, neglectful, etc)

The authors base their study on the idea that children experience shifting personality in adolescence, and argue that this is non-pathological. This is widely accepted! Someone shifting personality traits as they grow up is absolutely not the same as DID. The authors go on to argue that the amnesia criteria was added in the DSM-4, and go further to argue that so-labeled "high-functioning MPD systems" could actually be "totally normal people with multiple personalities with no amnesia."

(Note: "totally normal people" is a lovely touch of ableism, as if people with DID are not normal, and totally normal high-functioning systems without amnesia already have a label. OSDD.)

The methods of this study are so minimally described that I fear my 6th grade students produce better lab reports in their science classes. A survey made by the researchers wherein only one subjective personal response on their own criteria indicates dissociative identity disorder, because it 'totally correlates to the DES, trust us guys'. The sampling is even shorter and negligent to the point of feeling purposeful.

Part of the way through the article, they shift their hypothesis. In the start of the essay, they set out to prove that multiplicity without amnesia is a normal experience and that trauma is what causes amnesia. Here, they change the hypothesis to be a bit reversed; that multiplicity is normal, and in DID, amnesia is imposed upon an already functional multiple system. If your red flags have not raised yet for the fakeclaiming, they should be up now.

Especially because, yep, they go on to fakeclaim a case study, Frieda. This individual was diagnosed with DID. This article claims that most traumatized people do not dissociate (with no source for this claim, particularly because the claim is batshit), and that "fantasizers" like Frieda (you know, a woman with severe trauma) just... imagine their feelings to be fully fragmented parts!

It seems to be that they try to argue that these imagined parts are what every system experiences, and people get amnesia if they imagine they should (as seen by their accusations of Frieda's fantasizing).

BTW: Frieda was orphaned as a child, raised in orphanages where she was abused, neglected, and without proper food and shelter, and then molested by soldiers in the war she was living through. The article skips almost all of her traumatic childhood and suggests that, after being raped (while the original case study states "molested"), she gained amnesia for the event, which made her imaginary friend into a disorder.

So... yeah! There you have it folks: all systems are just made up, and DID/OSDD is caused when those systems (who are making it all up) actually experience something that causes amnesia!

#I hope this article burns!#:)#beauty and poison go hand in hand #normal dimensions of multiple personality without amnesia #fakeclaiming #tw sa mention #tw fakeclaiming #sa mention #syscourse #debunking

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