SOMMMEEEE QUESTIONS FOR YA :D (Some about your oc and some indulgent ones for myself <3)
What exactly is S'avahili's curse?
A.) Why did Hyila/Zelda curse her?
B.) Is its the curses fault for her change in looks? and if so why does it change her appearance?
C.) Can she remove the curse?
Why does the curse change her so much when it worsens with frost bite?
Is she rabbit folk? a gerudo? A mix of the two?
A.) is she constantly reborn into the similar form or does it change?
B.) How is she being reborn? The curse? other reasons?
Now foe some indulgent questions
opinion on grim?
A.) hate her? love her? wanna shake her around to figure out whats wrong with her?
B.) Do you think she should become her own person? Or stay as a puppet?
The Voice!! Other than physicals appearences, did anything else draw you to them?
A.) How bad do you see The Voice? If there was a meter from like 1-10
My baby Iolnye! Shes a cutie
A.) Thoughts on the lady? Is she what you expected for Grim's love interest?
B.) If you had to guess, how old do you think she is?
Do you have any like...theories or thoughts on Grim's lore?
this is the worst mistake of your life 😁 /j
i am entering my cringe mary-sue + rambling era
(s'avahili questions utc because i loredumped a lot,, its all been in my brain for 3 consecutive years)
1.) I literally love Grim and her entire premise, story, character, etc, etc. It's all super cool and I wish I thought of it first (/j)
A.) I want to sit her down on one of those therapy chairs and just.. pick apart her brain like I'm doing surgery
B.) For the romance plot: yes, but horrifically traumatized as she learns what it means to be human and actual emotion because The Voice ruined that for her (before inevitably turning back into a statue because, assumedly, The Voice is no longer with her). Because I love tragedy: no.
2.) I mean this positively, but The Voice really reminds me of the fucked up angel from The Mandela Catalogue or Rher and Per'kele from Fear and Hunger and I am a sucker for divine characters using fear/terror/other means for their own, twisted purposes
A.) If you were to put me and The Voice in a room, they are walking out in a straitjacket with multiple nurses on each side (:
3.) Human-animal people >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
A.) I absolutely love Lolnye, but I really did not expect her AT ALL as Grim's love interest
I originally expected someone from within The Voice's cult because of similarities in circumstance, but I can just as easily rock with someone outside of it with a completely different filed of view
B.) I personally think Grim is around 26-27, so that in turn makes me think Lolnye is around 23-25? Based on her gifted kid status, it kind of makes me think Lolnye would be younger
4.) Since I haven't been in the room where it happens, I don't have a lot of theories or thoughts surrounding Grim, but I am really curious about where you're going with her character and what her views on different things the world both with and without The Voices shades on
1.) To preface, there are 4 goddesses in the venomverse, Nayru, Farore, Din, and Nabooru. Nabooru merged with a demon as a marriage (of flesh) and became Demise. Below them are deities; Hylia-- Zelda, Aram-- Fierce Deity/Link, and Ifetu-- S'avahili. There are more but they're the only ones worth mentioning.
Because of S'avahili's (then Ifetu, when she was originally cursed) connection to anything heat related (the sun goddess, Din, and flaming, burning, hatred incarnate itself, Demise, who formed the Gerudo Deserts and Death Mountain), Zelda (then Hylia) thought to curse her by making her perpetually cold.
Aside from making it near impossible for her to feel warmth (she can feel it, but doesn't do anything for her body temperature) it: flares up when in specific areas (anywhere near saltwater/the ocean or Rito Mountains) giving her chronic pains in her joints, the chills almost entirely freeze her vocal chords, gives her chronic fatigue from the pain and constant amounts of magical energy it takes to keep her from completely freezing over (which can possibly cause worsening degrees of frostbite if not in "safe areas," which can lead to amputation), and make her vulnerable to the Master Sword and light magic.
A.) Hylia originally cursed Ifetu because Nayru and Farore created her as a means to end (or repeatedly defeat) Demise.
(I swear this is all relevant.)
Long story short; Hylia's sleeper agent mind wakes up upon finding out Aram and Ifetu were in a situationship, Sleeper agent! Hylia takes it as Ifetu trying to further "corrupt" Aram and become a marriage of flesh like Demise, Hylia curses Ifetu, and throughout their non-deity reincarnations Zelda just never got rid of it because they both still "hate" each other.
Short story with more information; Hylia and Aram were created by Nayru and Farore while Ifetu and Ganondorf (I don't know his pre-reincarnation name yet 😁) were created by Din and Demise, all four at the height of the gods' war. Hylia and Ifetu were married for a few thousand years prior to the betrayal (Zelda still keeps and wears Ifetu/S'avahili's proposal gifts. The war had entered more of a Cold War state by the time they got together), Aram is officially introduced to Ifetu and they hit it off, Aram awkwardly courts Ifetu (unaware of their relationship, she was not aware he was trying to court her), then sleeper agent Hylia wakes up.
B.) When I first made S'avahili (2015), I had an obsession with making characters that had white hair and characters that were villains' little sisters.
Originally, she only had white hair because I gave Yasehiro (now Yusef) Gerudo-red hair as the prince of Hyrule (Zelda's older brother).
They were supposed to be inverses and then I realized I hated that concept but still wanted her (both of them but this ain't about him) to have a unique appearance that set her apart from other Gerudo.
All that to say: now the answer is yes, her difference in appearance is because of the curse.
In one of the act introductions, it says "The Gerudo had (..) hair made of the same sun she (Din) ruled over," so I figured if the rest of her race would represent the sun and fire in a positive/healthy light, S'avahili would represent the moon and ice in a negative one.
C.) It is possible for S'avahili to remove the curse, but it requires Link.
When S'avahili's presented itself as cuffs around her neck, elbows, and wrists (images below) rather than mainly invisible until prompted, Link needed to carefully cut them off of her in order for the curse to be removed in that lifetime.
Hylia's thoughts regarding the cuffs were "if you trust him so much, you'll have no issue with him putting the Master Sword so close to something so vital."
After deciding to retcon the cuffs, the way to remove the curse instead changed to S'avahili forgetting how to do so once reincarnated and being forced to have someone who does (Koume, Kotake, Ganondorf, and Yusef) to help her and Link do the correct "ritual" to remove it.
Now S'avahili, Link, and whoever remembers has to travel to a specific oasis deep within the deserts, do a prayer, basically drown themselves, and then wake up a few days later with the curse removed.
The only catch is that due to the deserts' two suns (one exclusive to that area), it makes it almost impossible for any race outside the Gerudo and Goron to enter.
They get around that by going at night.
After the curse is removed, it is possible for Link to traverse the deserts without harm (essential for going through the Sand Temple-- Ifetu and Aram's old, abandoned temple) and makes it possible for S'avahili to touch the Master Sword without harm.
The fatigue stays around until her death, unfortunately.
2.) Hylia still had enough common sense so as to not straight up ruin Ifetu's life when she cursed her, which is why she instead made it a progression/timeline.
The beginning is just fatigue, the early stages (upon leaving her "safe zones") are pains in her joints, the middle shows up as frostnip and superficial frostbite, and late stage is deep frostbite or amputation.
Ifetu learned how to avoid worsening the stages of the curse before she died and reborn, allowing the knowledge to be passed into S'avahili.
The only case that has led to amputation (so far) is in Wind Waker, but even that's in specific scenarios.
3.) S'avahili and Ganondorf only have animal traits (a rabbit and boar, respectively) because those were the traits they expressed/representative animals from when they were deities, but they are entirely Gerudo.
(Also because I like drawing characters with animal traits.)
Their ears, tails, (Ganondorf's) horns, and (occasionally) feet serve as a reminder to those outside of the Gerudo (and Goron) that they are Din and Demise's deity children reborn.
(Also because they like them.)
On a related note, their situation are similar to that of the Twili who took their wolfish features from Aram and just never evolved out of them.
A.) The only thing about S'avahili that doesn't change is the fact she's Gerudo, her white hair, and her rabbit features.
It's similar to how Link, Zelda, and Ganondorf reincarnate every life with different looks, but always have key features.
(She can turn into a rabbit though. That's fun.)
B.) Ifetu only died because her brother (deity ganondorf) had been killed, Demise had been sealed away, the other three goddesses had sealed themselves within their elements, she still had horrible feelings towards Hylia, Aram was basically dead, and the rest of the world was beginning to move into a new era which made her figure there really wasn't a use for her anymore.
Ifetu and Aram were only reborn as S'avahili and Link because Aram swore that they'd meet again, he'd never leave her, he'd always protect her, he'd always love her, and other devoted couple nonsense before she put him in his coma and sealed him in the mask.
Upon realizing he had essentially cursed her (because he had not, in fact, devote himself in most of those lifetimes) and because she had abandonment issues, she got the rest of her deity friends to take a vow of reincarnation so she wouldn't have to be alone while she waited to meet Aram again.
(They do not.)
So to answer the question, it's all Aram's fault and he couldn't even make it worthwhile.
(Ganondorf and S'avahili come as a packaged biological big brother-little sister deal because Din and Demise literally made them each others' support.)
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10 Times Steve had Sharon on His Mind
I made a joke about collecting all of the times Steve daydreamed/hallucinated/dreamed about Sharon over the past twenty years. I realized that would be a long list and have annoying parameters, so I decided to highlight just ten scenes where the daydream/hallucination/dream took up significant space or was part of the plot...or was honestly just amusing to me.
Captain America Vol 4 #16 Captain America vol. 3 #50
I debated including this as Steve intentionally makes himself hallucinate with the intent purpose of showing Sharon his life, but you know. I’m being thorough. In this issue, he’s sharing his life with Sharon in an effort to convince her that they should get back together. He’s unsuccessful, but I guess she knows more about his life?
Captain America vol. 4 #4
This is actually part of a really depressing arc. 9/11 has just happened and Steve is struggling with what it means as the country mourns. This issue includes a very long sequence in which Steve daydreams about what his life could have been if he settled down. It’s not explicitly clear if this is meant to be Sharon,but later in the arc he also hallucinates having a family with her, so I’m going with him daydreaming his life with Sharon.
Captain America vol. 4 #10
So Steve has been dosed with hallucinogen. Earlier he was hallucinating Bucky, and now he’s hallucinating that woman he’s with, Hana, is actually Sharon. It’s really awkward for her, obviously. He claims he’s not affected...but based on the dialogue it’s clear her is.
Captain America vol. 4 #16
Steve is hallucinating again. He does this...a lot. In this issue, the bad guys want to figure out what it takes to drive Steve to kill. So they force him to hallucinate a perfect-ish life...which apparently includes marrying and having a baby with Sharon. This hallucination ends terribly, however, because a pregnant Sharon is killed and Steve loses it.
Captain America vol. 5 #6
The bad guys are using the cosmic cube to fuck with Steve. The Winter Soldier (!!!) has kidnapped Sharon, and they want to draw Steve into a trap, so they use the cosmic cube to force Steve to rescue her. Fun fact: Nick Fury knows Sharon is kidnapped, and has agents (including her ex-boyfriend, Neal) looking for her. He doesn’t tell Steve because he knows Steve will go off the deep end.
Captain America vol. 5 #16
So Steve probably has the weirdest post-coital dream ever, where visions of him and Sharon hooking up meld with memories of WWII.
Captain America: Reborn #4
Steve is falling through time, and sees a potential future with Sharon that includes babies. I am so surprised /s
Captain America vol. 6 #4
Steve’s trapped in a dreamland by Peggy’s ex-lover Codename: Bravo, who is very, very pissed off at him for so many reasons, including the fact that Peggy left him for Steve. Or was banging them both at the same time, the timeline was a little unclear. But back to Steve. He’s in this perfect dreamland where he’s retired from being Captain America, and he and Sharon have decided to explore space. And have babies. There is a trend and I’m not even trying.
Captain America vol. 7 #20
These panels fuck me up, okay? Because Steve is trapped in a mind-bubble again seeing his dreams come true. This is a very dark period in his life. He thinks both Sharon and his son, Ian, are dead. In this mindbubble, Ian is alive! And then Sharon appears. Her dialogue indicates she was on a deep mission, just like last time he thought she was dead. Which means he has probably been desperately hoping it’s the very same scenario, and you don’t know how sad this makes me. (Good news: Sharon and Ian are alive! Sharon ended up raising Ian in an alternate dimension, and Ian calls her mom. Dream come true! Until Ian “dies” again.)
Secret Empire V1 #09
Ah, Secret Empire. Our in the world, Nazi!Steve is taking over the world. Meanwhile, real!Steve is trapped in the void with no idea who he is. He goes on a sort of vision quest, where he sees his mother, Bucky and Sam, the Red Skull, and Sharon. It’s not until he sees Sharon that he finally realizes who he is. Void!Sharon shows up in an earlier issue, but I love this panel because it highlights the four relationships that matter most to Steve.
Bonus: Venomverse #2
This isn’t main universe Steve and Sharon...but this IS a version of Steve hallucinating Sharon. So here’s the thing, the villains take on the form of one of the people a person loves most and then kills them. So, Steve is hallucinating Sharon...and then he dies. Sorry this one didn’t end in babies, Cap.
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I listened to the podcast linked here to get at the truth of what’s going on with Cletus Kasady for Carnage fans. I transcribed the exchange about Cletus (there’s some bits I left out that are indicated by the [...], but they’re not super relevant to the event at hand):
Cates: “Cletus Kasady, he was in the Venomverse event. Last time we saw him, he was floating in the void of space, dead. But then he fell into orbit, his symbiote – the Carnage symbiote - came out of his bloodstream and tried to protect him. He landed on Earth with no legs, essentially like a corpse, but somehow still alive because the Carnage symbiote protected him. The Carnage symbiote dies protecting him in that crater, then the cult finds him. They essentially make him into their new messiah […] he is reborn, they give him the Grendel symbiote, the last little piece, it flows all over Cletus and he is reborn as this thirteen-foot-tall fuckin’ monstrosity with his spine showing.”
Stegman: “He’s still, he’s dead.”
Cates: “He’s still a corpse inside. So like, you’ll see in Absolute Carnage as the symbiote comes away there’s maggots, he still doesn’t have a nose. Sometimes you’ll see him as Cletus, he just looks straight-up like Cletus, but what you’re seeing is the Grendel symbiote mimicking Cletus’s face. So you’ll see Cletus’s face open up and there’s a corpse inside and that’ll twist into Carnage and stuff […] Cletus is reborn and is essentially told what we already knew but he didn’t know. If you get all of the codexes and you can repair the Grendel symbiote that he’s wearing and get it strong enough, then you can reconnect to the Hive, take it over, and wake up Knull.”
According to Donny Cates on Twitter, “It’s his reanimated corpse. He’s alive. Just looks like a corpse.”
I’m mostly more confused than I was before today, when I assumed Cletus was alive and definitely in control. I guess he’s only mostly dead, and the Grendel symbiote is compensating for that (but also not healing him fully, so the artists get to draw hella gore).
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