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If I missed anything (which I definitely did with only a max of 12 slots), or if you want to elaborate on your choice, sound off in the comments!

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#batjokes #so torn between dotf and endgame #i love them in the batman who laughs too

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Oh pleaseeee someone open the schools. Take reading comprehension classes, or reread the run again because you are understanding everything WRONG and if it hurts you so much to read it, drop it, worse things have been published in DC. Go outside, touch grass, and come back in a few years.

Nah, I have read it far too many times already. How about you kindly explain to me what I'm understanding wrong, hmmm?

And yes, while worse things have been published by DC, for the main Batman run, the current run is one of the worst imo.

But if it hurts you so much to read my post, you can just go out and touch grass too because you sound like you need it more than me. I am perfectly content in my humid tropical climate.

Cheers! ;)

#batjokes #ask #i didnt even realize i left my ask open lol

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Batman #146

Man, this is the first time in my life I consider stop paying for the main run. I can't anymore with Zdarsky. Why did he have to ruin DotF and Endgame for me?

Deluded as he may, Joker's profession of love to Batman is sincere. All his gestures in DotF were nothing short of a love letter. And yet Zdarsky had to twist those into his mundane obsession with Zur. And now the plot of Endgame was no longer making sense.

Why did Joker ever go through a heartbreak and the need to break free if the one recoiling from their purported relationship was Bruce, whom he deemed lesser, not Zur, his one true love? If Bruce was viewed as a mere obstacle between him and Zur, shouldn't he just push further? Why did he want to end it all? The pain in his voice was so raw when he told Batman they could have had a happy ending. Bringing Zur into the picture only undermined the passion and the desperation of their last fight.

To be fair, I could tell Zdarsky has put a lot of effort into this run. I just...could not see his vision. I kept telling myself it would get better, that nothing could possibly be worse than the Gotham War, but alas...

And here I am, despite my extreme displeasure, forever trapped by the narrative, doomed to read this comic until the day I perish. 😞

Literally me going insane

#batjokes #joker #batman #zur en arrh #my apologies for anyone enjoying this run

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Batman 3D #1

#dudes were basically flirting before joker ruined it by mentioning jason #batjokes #joker #batman

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So the full issue confirmed Joker's true love has been Zur all along. And he prefers Zur precisely because Zur tried to kill him???

Man, I truly despise this run.

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The last panel is from Batman: Last Knight on Earth #3, by the way. I've made an edit.

Sorry I messed up.

Batman #145 (preview)

It infuriates me how Zdarsky kept having his Joker refer to Zur en Arrh as the real you or the true Batman. I understand there are many ways to write a character such as Joker, but to have him regard the OG Batman, who in part made him, as a second best to Zur, whom he had only met twice in his entire career, is so...jarring.

I sure damn hope Zdarsky was still cooking and intentionally having Joker spouting nonsense to mess with Batman here because God forbid if Joker was truly being sincere, it would taint all the history between him and Batman in the past decades, turning their dynamics lukewarm if not deploringly lackluster.

And why would Joker care to break the like of Zur in the first place? As formidable as he may, what's so sacred about Zur that needs defiling?

His swift execution of justice? Disproportionate uses of violence? Or his unadulterated brutality? Were these the qualities that left the Joker so enamoured?

One may say it's only natural that Joker would want to unleash his chaos upon Zur, who thinks himself a personification of control and order. But even considering his extreme measures, Zur has never stood against Joker at his core in the ways that Batman has.

In a world where nothing matters, Batman swoops in and fights him by trying to give meaning to everything. And he saves Joker, too, because he believes all lives are worth saving. And that's why Joker is determined to break him. He needs Batman to be wrong.

But what about Zur? Zur is just another man in power. He's dangerously competent, but he upholds no sanctimonious codes. They fight because they have different goals, but there's nothing inherently personal. Joker would not mourn the loss of Zur, and Zur would never feel the weight of guilt from refusing to let his monster bleed to death.

Then again, it might simply be my fault that I lack media literacy. Perhaps it has been Zdarsky's intention all along that Joker was lying. Maybe Joker elevating Zur to such esteem was just a part of his plan to push Bruce to ascension?

On a not-so-unrelated note, as there are many references to Scott Snyder's work in this run, I can't help chewing on how Zdarsky and Snyder differ in their interpretations of Joker.

While Snyder's Joker made it clear that he only cared about Batman and not Bruce, he had never wished for Batman to forgo his humanity.

The most Joker demanded of Batman was to get rid of the family that burdened him (which, funnily enough, Zur agreed). But his resentment stemmed from loneliness and jealousy.

In his heart of hearts, Joker knew they could continue their dance because Batman let it be so, hence the belief that his feelings towards Batman were reciprocated.

Joker even came to admit at one point that he no longer wanted to see Batman broken. What he wanted was for neither of them to win.

The Batman Who Laughs #4 (2019)

And unless something akin to 'Last Knight on Earth' happened, I see this as their dynamic in later years until either (or both) of them perished (which is unlikely to be soon as they both refused to let the other die).

Therefore, this Joker would never want Zur to enter the picture as it had been shown time and time again that when met with the more brutal, more...radical Batman(s), he always chose to side with the Batman who stayed humane.

Like when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object, Joker is in love with Batman who refuses to change.

Batman: Last Knight on Earth #3 (2019)

The True Batman, for him, was the Batman who could withstand any test Joker and the world threw at him and remained the same.

Well..., who would like to keep dancing with a man who wouldn't dive from the top of the building after you anyway?

Still, I want so bad to be wrong about Zdarsky. I hope he has plans for them more than he lets on. (T w T)

#zdarsky made me come real close to quit paying for another issue

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Batman #145 (preview)

It infuriates me how Zdarsky kept having his Joker refer to Zur en Arrh as the real you or the true Batman. I understand there are many ways to write a character such as Joker, but to have him regard the OG Batman, who in part made him, as a second best to Zur, whom he had only met twice in his entire career, is so...jarring.

I sure damn hope Zdarsky was still cooking and intentionally having Joker spouting nonsense to mess with Batman here because God forbid if Joker was truly being sincere, it would taint all the history between him and Batman in the past decades, turning their dynamics lukewarm if not deploringly lackluster.

And why would Joker care to break the like of Zur in the first place? As formidable as he may, what's so sacred about Zur that needs defiling?

His swift execution of justice? Disproportionate uses of violence? Or his unadulterated brutality? Were these the qualities that left the Joker so enamoured?

One may say it's only natural that Joker would want to unleash his chaos upon Zur, who thinks himself a personification of control and order. But even considering his extreme measures, Zur has never stood against Joker at his core in the ways that Batman has.

In a world where nothing matters, Batman swoops in and fights him by trying to give meaning to everything. And he saves Joker, too, because he believes all lives are worth saving. And that's why Joker is determined to break him. He needs Batman to be wrong.

But what about Zur? Zur is just another man in power. He's dangerously competent, but he upholds no sanctimonious codes. They fight because they have different goals, but there's nothing inherently personal. Joker would not mourn the loss of Zur, and Zur would never feel the weight of guilt from refusing to let his monster bleed to death.

Then again, it might simply be my fault that I lack media literacy. Perhaps it has been Zdarsky's intention all along that Joker was lying. Maybe Joker elevating Zur to such esteem was just a part of his plan to push Bruce to ascension?

On a not-so-unrelated note, as there are many references to Scott Snyder's work in this run, I can't help chewing on how Zdarsky and Snyder differ in their interpretations of Joker.

While Snyder's Joker made it clear that he only cared about Batman and not Bruce, he had never wished for Batman to forgo his humanity.

The most Joker demanded of Batman was to get rid of the family that burdened him (which, funnily enough, Zur agreed). But his resentment stemmed from loneliness and jealousy.

In his heart of hearts, Joker knew they could continue their dance because Batman let it be so, hence the belief that his feelings towards Batman were reciprocated.

Joker even came to admit at one point that he no longer wanted to see Batman broken. What he wanted was for neither of them to win.

The Batman Who Laughs #4 (2019)

And unless something akin to 'Last Knight on Earth' happened, I see this as their dynamic in later years until either (or both) of them perished (which is unlikely to be soon as they both refused to let the other die).

Therefore, this Joker would never want Zur to enter the picture as it had been shown time and time again that when met with the more brutal, more...radical Batman(s), he always chose to side with the Batman who stayed humane.

Like when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object, Joker is in love with Batman who refuses to change.

Batman: Last Knight on Earth #3 (2019)

The True Batman, for him, was the Batman who could withstand any test Joker and the world threw at him and remained the same.

Well..., who would like to keep dancing with a man who wouldn't dive from the top of the building after you anyway?

Still, I want so bad to be wrong about Zdarsky. I hope he has plans for them more than he lets on. (T w T)

#batjokes #joker #batman #zur en arrh #more rant than meta?

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ME when people asked why the Joker had never received the death penalty:

The Joker: Devil's Advocate (1996)

Batman Black and White #3 (2014)

#batjokes #joker #batman

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#i sometimes miss joker who could have stabbed you with a knife but instead hit you with a bologna stick

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Recently, I saw some people criticizing Scott Snyder for trying to make Joker an immortal demon archetype while praising Zdarsky for giving Joker a past and making him more human. And I was like...sorry, but did we read the same comic? Because that was a complete opposite of what actually happened.

Snyder didn't write the Joker as a monster emerging from hell or nothingness. His Joker was a man who found death preferable to the reveal of his real name (DotF). When confronted with the life he left behind, Joker was terrified.

And despite his darndest attempts to reinvent himself and ascend into something beyond mere man (Endgame), he failed.

That's it. That's the very point. He failed.

Hell, Joker might have achieved a modicum of success, had he just left Batman behind. But no, he couldn't help himself. So in his last moment, Batman held him down and forced him to accept his own mortality.

Yet inexplicably, people are so hung up on the introduction of 'the Pale Man' myth even though it can be inferred (rather plainfully so) from the text that Joker was lying.

Batman broke his heart. To retaliate, Joker destroyed his city and haunted him with a tale of the devil whose existence might predate even Gotham itself. Joker knew he outliving Batman was one of Bruce's greatest fears, so in his resentment, he tried to make Batman die believing the Joker to be an unstoppable force of evil that would continue to exist indefinitely without him.

The Pale Man was invented, partly, because Joker wished he could escape from the entwining of their own fates. He no longer relished in the belief that Batman had helped make him.

All in all, I understand not being a fan of Snyder's work. That's absolutely valid. But to accuse him of pushing the narrative of Joker being the devil incarnate is just...unfair.

And wrong.

The pic has nothing to do with my rant btw. I'm just upset it was rejected and replaced by something rather generic so I find any opportunity to randomly include it lmao.

#batjokes #joker #batman #rant post

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Holy shit bro calm your tits.

#batjokes #joker #batman #the killing joke #fan edit

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I must preface that I hate this issue for many reasons (which you have mostly covered), especially the notion that a force of nature such as Joker needs a mentor to train him to be fearless. Like...what???

Still, I believe an attempt to explore Joker's humanity isn't a bad thing in itself. (Not that I like the direction Zdarsky is going. I'm frowning at his execution and not caring one bit for a story he's trying to tell.)

I find most of Joker's iconic moments have him at his most human, like when he turns down Batman's help with a sincerity that's almost heartbreaking [TKJ] or when his pupils function as human's should only for Batman [DotF]. And despite Joker's utmost attempt to become something larger than life— something eternal [Endgame], in the end, Batman proved that he could not be anything else but a man.

Anyway, I am not saying that Joker should be sympathized or redeemed. But his atrocities did not strip him of his humanity nor made him any less human.

And in Joker's rare moments of weakness, Batman— and only Batman— saw glimpses of humanity inside him. Those moments alone are enough to make Batman cling to his belief that Joker can still be saved (never mind that he tries and tries to the detriment of those around him).

All in all, I completely understand if writers want to explore more of this topic. I simply am not a fan (an understatement lol) of how Zdarsky does it.

thoughts on the first issue of Joker Year One (please reblog with yours, especially if you disagree with me!! Listening to other people's perspectives of a story is the best part of being a comic book fan!)

The scenes that happen in the future are cheap horror and not even scary anymore. How many fucking times are we getting the same "ohhh EVERYONE is the Joker now!!" stories before DC drops it? It was never cool in the first place. Gets points for the Duke mention though.

The scenes of the actual Year One are technically well-written with a pretty easy-to-understand narrative, and I enjoyed Batman's narration. However, any attempts to humanize Joker fail miserably, at least to me. Joker, as a concept, doesn't work if he's a human being. If the goal is to symbolize man's ability to rationalize evil or the fact that the worst people you know were still good at one point, you do that with Red Hood, or Cheetah, or Harley Quinn, or Parallax. Joker isn't Joker if you make us think about him as a person. He's best interpreted as a source of pure, chaotic evil, and to make him anything but that ruins his dynamic with Batman, Harley, and even his own crooks. A Joker you sympathize with isn't the Joker. The whole point is that he's entirely irredeemable. It's why he's the foil to Batman.*

*By this I mean that Batman is a character who obsesses over second chances. Batman is, by nature, someone who believes everybody will change if given the time and environment to. He's adamant about rehabilitation. That's the very core of his ideals. It's why Joker needs to be absolutely unfixable. Just crazy, unadulterated cruelty. Batman, even with all his kindness, can't fix Joker. And so when you make him something that is inherently human underneath, it ruins the illusion that this is a chase Batman can't win, and it makes Joker essentially useless from a meta-narrative standpoint.

#Sorry for my rambling #I hate this issue with the fire of a thousand suns #batman 142

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Ever heard of E.B. White's quote, "Explaining a joke is like dissecting a frog. You understand it better but the frog dies in the process"?

Literally what Zdarsky's doing to the Joker right now. I let him cook and he made Batman & Joker share the same mentor.

I will never trust anyone ever again.

Except Scott Snyder.

I will let Mr. Snyder cook my own flesh.

#batman 142 #batman #joker #batjokes

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batjokes valentines

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Bro was so miffed his stupidass clown didn't laugh at his stupidass joke.

Batman: the Brave and the Bold (2023) #9

#batjokes #bruce wayne #alfred pennyworth #batman: the brave and the bold

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The clown looks so damn fine for someone with busted back who has been in jail for 2 weeks.

But why the hell did you put them in the same cell, Zur? Are you fucking stupid or a batjokes shipper, hmmm?

There's simply no other explanation.

#batjokes #batman #joker #batman 141

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#kid is a batjokes shipper #Bane would be proud #merry little batman #also Riddler backseating lol

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whoever runs the verified batman account in instagram needs their ass ate cause these are hilarious

#once and for all 9 times sent me #dude was out and about every month minus his 3 month vacation with free healthcare in Arkham