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This is not a google drive folder with books about the Franklin Expedition in epub/pdf (will be updated, titles under the cut)

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Hello! I was wondering, where did the story of Lady Jane Franklin laying the Union Jack flag on Sir John before his expedition come from? Did one of the two tell anyone about it or is it made up as a tale to foreshadow Franklin’s death?

Hi! I'm so flattered to receive lovely and very interesting asks like this, especially as I'm far from an expert in anything Franklin-related. I'm afraid I don't have a clear or comprehensive answer for you, my friend, but that being said, I've done my best!

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I first came across that particular apocryphal tale in Beattie & Geiger's Frozen in Time: The Fate of the Franklin Expedition (1987) and have since found it mentioned by several other authors too. The earliest and most detailed reference to the story I've been able to find so far goes back to Francis J. Woodward's Portrait of Jane: A Life of Lady Franklin.

Below is the full quote:

"One day - so Davies Gilbert's daughter told her friend Caroline Fox - he was so tired that he lay down on a sofa in the lodgings they had taken in Lower Brook Street and fell asleep. Jane was sitting beside him, putting the final stitches to a flag that she had made - in the tradition of explorers' wives - for him to take to the Arctic. Anxious that he should not feel cold , she threw it over his feet. The touch of it startled him into half-wakefulness. "Why, there's a flag thrown over me!" he exclaimed, "Don't you know that they lay the Union Jack over a corpse?"

Portrait of Jane: A life of Lady Franklin, Francis J. Woodward, 1951 (p253).

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It's not clear to me where exactly Woodward got that information though...

Davies Gilbert was an engineer, politician and at one time, president of the Royal Society while I believe the Caroline Fox referred to here was a noted diarist and writer of the time (though I could well be wrong about that!). Perhaps one explanation could be then that one or both of those women moved within the same social circles as the Franklins or were even actively friends with Lady Jane and the story originated with her?

That's purely speculation though, my friend, and beyond that, I really can't say much more with any certainty!

Does anyone else within this wonderful community of clever people have anything more to add to this? <3

#Asks #Friendos! #This was a super interesting one! #And again very flattering! #:) #I just wish I could answer it with more certainty #I'd be delighted to hear from other folks with more knowledge than I within this passionate and brainy fandom! #The Terror #Franklin Expedition #History #Historic Context #Sir John Franklin #Lady Jane Franklin

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Where are all the jolly tars that crewed the Agamemnon? Men for whom the carronades were less hard work than play. Oak and iron and blood were they, and every girl a darling. Sink them in their hammocks, lads, they've gone far away.

#No particular reason for this #I just likes it is all #And have had it stuck in my head all week #Not-Terror #But still relevant #Audio

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#I'm still obsessed with seeing that utterly VENOMOUS look in the fourth gif contrasted against the E01 Bergy-Bits Glance of Trust #A completely wordless indication of just how far their relationship has deteriorated #Also obsessed with that previous tag - #'90% of drunk Francis' life is making up some guy in his head then getting mad at him' #I would argue that that's 90% of sober Francis' life too honestly #No one's denying that the man's suffered as a result of the prejudices and unkindness of the society around him #But he doesn't half love to inflict suffering on himself also #'You've made YOURSELF miserable and distant and hard to love and you blame the world for it' #I have more thoughts on this #Not coherent thoughts yet but thoughts nonetheless #The Terror #The Terror AMC #Francis Crozier #Edward Little #Thomas Jopson

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first day of standing lessons

#Oh my god #I'm obsessed with this #He's doing such a good job! #Clearly unimaginable inner rage and fury = excellent posture somehow #And honestly I'll never not reblog the sight of baby boy just FILLING OUT that damned uniform #Hubba hubba #The Terror #The Terror AMC #Sillyposting #So very very silly

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i think edward little could have been improved if he had been allowed to act on the violent impulses that he is clearly trying to subdue here:

at least one time

#“grant me the serenity to kill you with a brick; the courage to kill you with a brick; and the wisdom to kill you with a brick. amen” #< Prev! #If I've said it once I've said it a thousand times #His anger isn't necessarily a problem #In fact it's very sexy of him #The problem is having no outlet whatsoever for that anger #So help me god I'll finish the next chapter of my fic this weekend #I WILL let him punch Crozier squarely in the fuckin' face as a treat #That is a promise #The Terror #The Terror AMC #Edward Little #God I love him

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Currently sitting on my lunchbreak rotating in my mind the idea of Little actually standing up to Crozier about his drinking only to be brutally punished as a boy as a result.

I wish I could say I was only enamoured by the fallout of such a theoretical event, by plot and themes and whatnot, but let's be real, I'm actually just enamoured by the idea of sweet Nedward vulnerable, humiliated, with his peachy wee arse on show. 👀

#Who said that #The Terror #The Terror AMC #Edward Little #I was ready for the brainrot to overtake me but it seems sheer lust has taken its place instead #I regret nothing #👀 #I need to write this asap

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I’ve seen some posts talking abt this weird little moment bw Little and Irving, bc ?? What’s even going on here lads. But I think the moment makes perfect sense when you consider the news they’ve just gotten about the provisions, seeing as Irving is the one who’s been in charge of those provisions.

He oversaw the inspection of the tins. It was his job to make sure all the unsafe food was disposed of, and then it was his job to do the math on how to reduce rations after the culling. We explicitly see him relating this information to the rest of command. And after all that, to find out it was for naught? That the tins he himself deemed safe were still killing them? That he’s been working and worrying about doling out portions of literal poison to his men for years, and he had no idea? Yeah, I’d probably look a little shell shocked too :(

And Little looks over to his friend, and sees him staring into space, obviously going back over all the time he spent agonizing over rations that were killing them anyway… of course he reaches out to try and bring him out of it. I read that interaction as Little telling him, hey, this isn’t your fault, okay?

#While we're on the subject of good lieutenants...! #See I've always read this scene the same way #Irving shell-shocked and borderline dissociating in reaction to the grim news he's heard #Little immediately noticing this and immediately reaching out to comfort his friend #But not once - not once! - had it occurred to me why Irving would be so particularly torn up by the news of poisoned tins #Proper big-brain stuff there OP thank you #Thank you for making me suffer #The Terror #The Terror AMC #S01E07 #Horrible from Supper #John Irving #Edward Little

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i watched the terror (2018) and i think it changed how i view the world on a fundamental level

#Same mate same! #The Terror #The Terror AMC

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listen i don't think edward little was actually a bad first lieutenant. when we see him in the first episode he's calm and confident. he does not say much but he's amiable enough. crozier likes him, and i don't think crozier would like anyone he doesn't think capable in some way. generally he's dependable and knows what he's doing. however unfortunately for edward he has these qualities because he has a major case of eldest daughter syndrome, which means he both wants to please his mum (crozier) and has an overdeveloped sense of responsibility for his younger siblings (crew), so when they get stuck in the ice and crozier starts going (more) alcoholic, he enables his mum bc he doesn't want to disappoint her even if he doesn't agree with her, and he has to pick up the tasks and care for his siblings she's not doing, but he can't let his siblings know about their mum's situation because they'll get worried and restless. and like a true eldest daughter he has to bear the brunt of mummy's anger for being a disappointment but he also doesn't want to seek refuge with the man she divorced (fitzjames) because that feels like a betrayal. also while this is going on there is a giant bear who hunts his siblings for sport so they're dying left and right and also a changeling master manipulator who's making his siblings mad at their mum and who wants to fuck said mum before eating her like some sort of praying mantis. anyway i think i would start being miserable and anxious too.

#I know this is all meant in jest but you've truly hit the nail on the head OP #He's a good lieutenant! That's a hill I'll die gladly on all day every day until the end of time! #Lest we also forget the Episode One Bergy-Bits Glance that will pain me till the end of my days #Crozier hears of something amiss with their progress through the ice and the very first person he looks to is Little #A wordless look of trust and complete understanding #That's the thing - the trust and love was always there and it never does go away completely #But it also doesn't help or change anything in the end either #The Terror #The Terror AMC #Meta #Edward Little #Francis Crozier #This is just one of many brilliant things I've been chewing on for days until I could devote proper brain power to thinking more about it

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happy 176th victory point note day to all who celebrate!

25th April 1848

HMShips Terror and Erebus were deserted on the 22nd April 5 leagues NNW of this having been beset since 12th Sept 1846.

The officers and crews consisting of 105 souls under the command of Captain F. R. M. Crozier landed here — in Lat. 69°37’42’’ Long. 98°41’

This paper was found by Lt. Irving under the cairn supposed to have been built by Sir James Ross in 1831 — 4 miles to the Northward — where it had been deposited by the late Commander Gore in May June 1847.

Sir James Ross’ pillar has not however been found and the paper has been transferred to this position which is that in which Sir J. Ross’ pillar was erected.

Sir John Franklin died on the 11th of June 1847 and the total loss by deaths in the Expedition has been to this date 9 officers and 15 men.

[signed] F. R. M. Crozier Captain & Senior Offr

And start on tomorrow 26th for Backs Fish River

[signed] James Fitzjames Captain HMS Erebus

#Oh god the heart-rendingly auspicious days just keep coming! #Happy Victory Point Day to all who observe then #Well not 'happy' as it were but as always you catch my drift #The Terror #The Terror AMC #Franklin Expedition #History #Historic Context #Historic Artefact

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I'm back, baby!

Been less active as of late - had an interview to prepare for (Which went okay! A solid 8/10!) - but now I can go back to fully focusing on what really matters in life!

#Second interview done and dusted! #It went well too! #Personal #Sillyposting

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i think what’s on a person’s nightstand is very telling so reblog this and put in the tags the things you have on your nightstand

#I always find these so fun! #A shitty IKEA lamp #Two repurposed jars full of pens pencils gluesticks and other stationary #A pair of sunglasses it's still too soon to wear #A compact mirror with a vintage Guinness print on it #A tube of expensive bright red lipstick #A big box full of loose papers and other detritus for use in my bullet journal #And last but not least an Ursula K Le Guin book I haven't started reading yet

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Jared Harris posted this on his instagram story and it makes me so happy to see that the cast is still as invested in this show as we are 🥹

#Aye aye captain! #🫡 #The Terror #The Terror AMC #Soon my beloved #Soon I shall return to your chilly embrace and let the brain-rot carry me away into the night #Like a bloodily bisected ships boy in the powerful jaws of a supernatural polar bear

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Good job with the interview, and good luck for the next one!!!

Thank you so much, mate! :)

I can think of nothing else until it's all over and done with, then I'll luxuriate and let the cold-boys brain-rot take me once more! :D

#Asks #Friendos! #What a lovely wee boost this was - thank you! #Not-Terror #Personal

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One big, scary, exciting interview down, one big, scary, exciting interview still to go! 😅

#It went well! #Quicker than I thought but I'm not stressing #I spoke well and said everything I wanted to say #I just did it at a mile a minute like I always do! #Not-Terror #Personal #Sillyposting #Just needed it off my chest

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Forever stabbing me in the heart with the most top-tier terror takes. I’ve watched this show at least twenty times and yet you always open my eyes to yet another bit of brilliance

Oh mate, this has made my day! :)

I wish I could say that it brings me no joy to stab people in the heart with my weird wee observations but we all know that's not true, I love every second of it! >:)

#Muhahaha #And things of this nature #>:) #Thank you for this! #Truly my day has been made! #Asks #Ask Game #Friendos! #The Terror