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gale-gentlepenguin · 2 months

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Tell me more about your feelings on Hazbin Hotel.

Part of me doesn’t want to answer this question, because of how popular this show is on Tumblr.

And I know that people will be like.

“What do you know, you’re a Christian, of Course you’d have some problems with it.”

Yes, I am going to disclose that. I am a Christian. Not ashamed of that. Still working to be a better one. But I can be objective enough to view it as a writer, and that at most my personal bias will only be a slight enhancement of my view.

And these are my unfiltered thoughts on this show.

But for my opinion of Hazbin hotel. The original Pilot was interesting. A place trying to reform sinners in the last place people would think to be reformed. (Spoilers ahead)

That pilot premise is interesting. You see Hell as a cesspool of the absolute worse people. (Like Los Angeles but with more cannibalism) and it takes the “Hell is other people approach”

The songs were fine, the animation was great, and the characters introduced were intriguing. So much potential depth to them, theories can speculate. And of course the big question of. “Can someone in hell actually be redeemed?” And we even have a character pointing out “of course not, they’re in hell. Their chance was before this?”

It raised this question of, if you know your doomed, why try to be a good person? And That is fascinating.

Then the show finally airs. And it’s just another “Heaven is corrupt” storyline. And it’s not even done well.

(The whole retelling of creation made my eyes roll. Trying to make Lucifer to be the good guy? How original (sarcasm). And not even done well. Because it’s Charlie narrating this, which makes it be like Charlie knows all this and is doing all of this pointlessly)

Hells gonna rise up against it and all that. The hotel was basically pointless.

The show goes on to constantly contradict itself at numerous points that leaves me more confused.

Yes there is an interesting character (Alastor) but outside of a great soundtrack and animation… the writing of the show is a mess.

It feels both rushed and too slow. The characters are speedrunning their arcs, yet the plot is crawling.

Let’s then not forget the fact that Angel power and weapons are said to be the only thing that Perma kills sinners and angels. Yet sir pretentious dies and instead of permadead, goes to heaven? What fucking logic is that?

Also it says how only Angel weapons and powers can hurt angels (they make a whole point about it) only to show Vaggie and Lute have a whole ass fight hurting eachother with tables and s***. Unless they’ve been blessed them chairs…

Also where do the souls that perma die go? Detroit? Because if Sir pretentious can go to heaven after dying, what the deal with all this? Is Hell actually hell? Seems more like purgatory.

And then you include the helluva boss lore as they take place in the same universe. And MORE questions get added.

But that’s a can of worms for another time.

More importantly, Charlie, the main character hardly gets any development moments. Her issues are TOLD not showed.

Vaggie is also a mess too, like her whole thing is protecting Charlie, and helping her. But then she gets told that she has to fight For Love and that’s how to win? You mean what she’s BEEN DOING THE WHOLE TIME?!

All the stuff with Angel Dust, the writing for that is fine when showing the messed up situation he’s in, but then after the Song “Loser, Baby” he’s suddenly months sober? Speedrunning a bit too much.

Side note: HOW DOES HEAVEN NOT KNOW HOW PEOPLE GET INTO HEAVEN?!

Like they genuinely seem like they don’t know? From my understanding, there is no Big Man making all the calls. Thats not corruption. Thats incompetence.

So if it’s just angels in charge, THEY should know. Like show that they’re tilting the scale or maybe denying certain people that DO follow the criteria. Because with the incompetency of it, it basically leaves the door open for potentially EVERYONE to get into heaven.

Yet then the show shows how awful people in hell are, like it’s clear there are people that deserve hell. Maybe I’m overthinking it, maybe I’m not thinking about it enough. But it’s a really dumb system.

But the biggest glaring hole in this show is the fact that there is no point for heaven to actually do the purge in the first place.

Hell being overpopulated shouldn’t matter. Only Angel power and weapons can actually hurt angels. Why would they worry about an uprising. Heaven could easily wipe hell. The only people that could probably do damage is Lucifer and the leaders of the rings of hell. And even then… That’s like 7 against ALL OF HEAVEN!? Even if we assume overlords and some high level demons could do similar… Heaven still takes it. (But then again the Lute and Vaggie fight might contradict that. Hard to say it’s so confusing)

That all aside, is it an awful show? No. It’s just so riddled with plotholes and pacing issues.

Would I recommend this show to people? No.

Would I recommend the sound track? Probably, the songs are catchy. Can’t deny that.

Everyone has their own opinions and tastes, but the show has too much of a mess for me.

#Gale’s thoughts #hazbin hotel #hazbin spoilers #now everyone if you can grab your pitchforks and touches #line up in a straight line. you can complain about my opinion

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bottomcasbigbang · 4 years

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Here you can read all the stories of our second round and check out the artwork our participants have created! Thank you to everyone who was a part of this, be it as a writer, author, beta, reader, cheerleader or helping hand! Thank you so much everyone and we hope we’ll see you back for the next round! ♥

Without further ado, the BCBB 2019/2020 creations:

Wayward Sons by Substiel (Explicit, 29k)

Illustrated by bees0are0awesome

It's the year 1919 and the Wayward Sons are the most powerful criminal organization in the country. It's ruled by Dean Winchester who bares the Mark of Cain. A curse given to him when Mary Winchester made a deal with the Devil to save her dying son. Dean was always a cold blood killer who did everything for business, and he never let anyone into his heart. He didn't dare let himself get too close to someone. That was until the Roadhouse hired a new bartender.

Castiel always admired Dean from afar for helping the lower class have a voice. For some reason, the bartender knows how to get under Dean's skin. There was something different about him which led to the beginning of their newfound relationship. Two broken souls finding each other in the middle.

Archive Warning: Graphic Depiction of Violence

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My Bloody Luck by TaymeeLove (Mature, 16k)

Illustrated by Kamicom

Castiel was a struggling actor who never had luck on his side in life or his relationships. He met with an accident and his life was never the same after. Will his luck in relationships turn around this time?

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Metanoia by adestielable (Explicit, 24k)

Illustrated by Noavice

Castiel’s existence has been nothing but pain, humiliation, and degradation. He’s an omega in a world where omegas are objects for an alpha’s enjoyment.

After a brutal assault on his nineteenth birthday, Castiel began entering into beastie fights—matches where instead of people going head to head, bio and mechanically engineered beasts fight to the death. And in Castiel’s months of fights, he’s not lost once.

It’s after one of these fights where Castiel meets Dean, his supposed true mate. Castiel hates alphas, and has vowed never to let one into his life because all alphas do is inflict pain. Yet…Dean is different. And Castiel finds he can’t help being drawn to him.

Archive Warnings: Graphic Depictions Of Violence, Rape/Non-Con, Underage

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Profound Kisses by BENKA79 (Explicit, 20k)

Illustrated by Gio (sketching-fox)

Dean knows he's screwed. He discovers he is in love with Castiel in Purgatory, and now he can't even have the angel in front of him, because he knows it's a one sided love. It’s Valentine's day and Dean tries very hard to hook up as always, but he can't get Cas out of his mind. So he drives back to the motel, drunk, and he finds Castiel trying to help him. Then, when Dean asks Castiel for some experimental kisses and the angel accepts, Dean starts a very dangerous game… finding in Castiel's kisses the most delicious experiences, but also, his own perdition. Will Castiel fall in love with him? Or will he stay emotionless as always?

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Sparks by DragonSgotenks (Explicit, 20k)

Illustrated by VampyRosa

Omega Cas meets Alpha Dean during one of the worst weeks of his life. Sparks fly when they realize they're truemates. But after a wild and intense night that ends with both of them sporting new mating bites, could a simple misunderstanding tear the new couple apart before they even have a chance to begin?

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Lesson Number 1: Monsters are Real by blueye22 (Explicit, 20k)

Illustrated by kuwlshadow

When Anael "Jo" Novak goes missing during a hike in the mountains with her boyfriend, worried brother, Castiel, goes in search of her. Castiel is surprised to receive the help of FBI agents, Dean and Sam. But what are they hiding?

Archive Warnings: Graphic Depictions of Violence

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You At the End of the Rail by spnsmile (Explicit, 30k)

Illustrated by verobatto-angelxhunter

Dean receives a text message from a new human Cas telling him of his suspicion that angels have found him in Gas n Sip. Still filled with guilt for kicking the ex-angel out of the Bunker, Dean steps up to make it up to his friend. Worried, Dean concludes the ex-angel has to disappear for many days so he asks Cas where he wants to go.

Cas’ answer?

Trains.

Fucking trains.

Archive Warnings: Graphic depictions of violence

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On Your Knees by raths_kitten (Explicit, 14k)

Illustrated by angeltortured

When Dean gets the assignment to follow the Fallen Angels on tour and write a feature article on them, he isn‘t their biggest fan. But that quickly changes when he hears them play live - and meets their charismatic lead singer Castiel in person.

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Just Like in the Movies by noxsoulmate (Explicit, 46k)

Illustrated by lotrspnfangirl

In a world where a new mark appears whenever you fall in love, Hollywood sweetheart, Castiel James, is known for his unblemished skin. Oh, he has the faint shadows of old crushes and childish infatuations, but no mark is that of something deep and true. No mark has ever stuck, no mark has ever become more than a hazy outline. Because Cas, well... Cas has never been in love.

The skin of bookshop owner Dean Winchester, however, tells another tale entirely. Dean loves freely, quickly, and deeply. He loves his family, he loves his friends, he still cares for his exes. While the first two don’t show on his skin, the latter do. All brushed over his body in various shapes and forms and colors. Of varying clarity. But even Dean has yet to get that one mark. That mark that sticks. The mark that is so deep, and so sharp, and so clear, it can only be that of a profound bond.

These two men share a common hope; a common desire. That one day, they might have a mark that means they have found a love that is as deep and true as love can be - just like in the movies.

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Granted by Andromache_42 (Explicit, 20k)

Illustrated by agusvedder

At forty-one, Dr. Castiel Novak is the proud recipient of a generous grant to fund his project on sustainability and urban farming from the Campbell Foundation, a small investing firm based out of Chicago. The night before he meets the award committee, lonely and pushed by his friend Balthazar, Castiel has the best sex of his life during a casual Grindr hook-up with “just-visiting” forty-seven-year-old Dean. Castiel’s life appears to be coming together, until he discovers that Dean is the head of the grant award committee. For the sake of professionalism, Castiel is willing to ignore the intense attraction between the two of them, but Dean turns out to be too tempting to resist.

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Finding Bigfoot by Desirae (Explicit, 22k)

Illustrated by Tamapochi

“Don’t be such a worrywart. It’s vacation time. Campfires, fishing, beer. What’s better than that?”

“Apparently a sasquatch sighting?” Castiel snarked, with an arched brow.

“Well, yeah. I mean, Sam’s a good substitute, but it’d be nice to see the real thing,” Dean grinned.

Finding Bigfoot wasn't exactly on the itinerary when Dean, Cas, and Sam planned their annual boys-only camping trip, but with his brother in a noticeable funk, Dean was prepared to do what he had to do. Even if it meant keeping quiet about a long-waited love confession from his best friend.

Determined to stay focused on distracting Sam from his troubles, and not make him feel like a third wheel, Dean and Castiel decide to keep their new relationship status to themselves, until after vacation is over.

After years of mutual pining, that shouldn’t be too hard, right?

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Meet me at Sunset by Suus_Arido (Mature, 55k)

Illustrated by celstese

Ever since the Barrier of Melaina fell and plunged the worlds of men, monsters and magic together, the Republic Elohim has kept its citizens save with help from the hunter organization the Red Circle.

Dean Winchester has never known how the world looked before the fall of the barrier. He and his family have been part of the Red Circle for generations and he knew it was his faith to die in battle. All he is supposed to want is to protect the innocents from darkness. But how can he when his soul is dark and corrupt?

As the monsters start to adapt and become more intelligent, the rise of chaos is not far behind. It’s midst this chaos that Dean meets a human with the name of an angel. Not only does this man believe in the salvation of the world but he also seems to believe that Dean is redeemable as well.

A love story may perhaps develop but Dean knows better, for it is known that the faith of a hunter is tragedy. Will Dean be able to make the right call? Even when blue eyes turn unrecognizable?

Archive Warnings: Graphic Depictions Of Violence, Major Character Death, Rape/Non-Con

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Beyond Borders by xHaruka17x (Explicit, 53k)

Illustrated by Diminuel

Sometimes doing what is right, what feels right, doesn't mean you’ll escape the consequences of those actions. Dean Winchester is the Head Alpha of one of the largest packs of the Western Hemisphere. He is days away from being a married and mated Alpha, ready for the next chapter in his life to commence, only for a horrific accident to change everything. Adam, Dean and Sam's little brother, is killed in a car accident across the globe in Russia. Dean finds out his little brother's now widowed Omega is all alone and pregnant, left to the mercy of his horrible home pack. Dean makes a decision and he knows things will explode when he gets back home, but he knows in his heart it’s the right thing to do.

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The Cleric's Birthright by Scribo_Vivere (Explicit, 34k)

Illustrated by yoyo-deano

Castiel Novak lost his husband and the love of his life, Balthazar, three years ago in a slaying no one has been able to solve. Burying himself in his work at the university as a leading anthropology professor there, he attempts to put the past behind him. When vicious murders begin to plague him in an eerie replication of Balthazar’s death, Castiel decides to find out on his own what sort of evil has descended upon them all. But the answers he’s looking for may not be so easily found, and the revelation forced upon him could destroy everything he knows - about himself, his world, and the faith he once held so dear. Complicating things is his new relationship with Dean Winchester, who may or may not be what he appears. Why is Castiel inexplicably drawn to him like a moth to the flame?

Archive Warnings: Graphic Depictions Of Violence, Major Character Death

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To Soar Without Grace by QuillsAndInk (Explicit)

Castiel is an alpha and a cleric serving the gods of his kingdom and wielding their power in preparation to join a holy war. When he gets taken by the heretical high prince of a rival kingdom, Castiel knows his fate is sealed. That is, until prince Dean tries to persuade him to take on a mad quest to kill his father and end the holy war. With heretical magic Castiel can’t understand forcing him away from the gods he’s always served, Castiel joins Dean. But in the mountain wilderness in the dead of winter with only his sworn enemy for company, can Dean and Castiel get past their differences or will the war swallow them up.

Archive Warnings: Graphic Depictions Of Violence

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Cow Bells and Snow Globes by Pimento (Explicit)

It really doesn't matter what the gossip columns say. Dean knows the International Ski Champion Castiel Novak, aka, Casanova of the Slopes is actually just Cas. Loyal, kind, caring Cas. The same Cas he's absolutely not had a crush on since they were teenagers on the competitive circuit.

He's had two plus decade's practice at hiding his feelings, how difficult can it be to suppress them a little longer.

They just so happen to be in the same ski resort, at the same time for an entire season, so Dean is damn well gonna enjoy having his friend back in his life for a while and not screw it up. The fact that he seems to have the magic touch with the grumpy teenage daughter that Cas is trying so desperately to reconnect with is just an opportunity to ease his friends' troubles while he finds his feet again.

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#supernatural #Destiel #bottom!cas #top!dean #masterpost: 2019/2020 #BCBB

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mittensmorgul · 4 years

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I've watched season 11 again, and I have a question if you're willing to answer. In season 5, Cas was very disappointed about learning God was basically a "dead beat dad," as Dean called it. But when Cas had an opportunity to talk to Chuck, he didn't seem all that interested in talking to him or even asking a question or two. Why do you think they never had Cas interact with Chuck as a son talking to his father when it was such a huge deal for Cas in season 5?

Hi there! I’m happy to talk about this, because honestly I was personally GLAD that Cas treated Chuck the way he did in s11.

(A/N: I was halfway through writing this when my power went out last night, so now that everything is back on I’m gonna see if I remember wtf I was even talking about... if this goes sideways halfway through, blame Potomac Edison)

Cas had already realized long before exactly who and what Chuck was. I mean, not that Chuck was actually God, but that God and “His Plan” was always a load of BS.

Chuck left the angels a lot of conflicting information, and not a lot in the Free Will and Critical Thinking arena. I was just thinking about season 6, and this sort of feeds into a lot of the same distinction between Cas and the rest of the angels. My personal line of thinking earlier this evening was this line in 6.20:

CASTIEL I'm doing this for you, Dean. I'm doing this because of you. DEAN Because of me. Yeah. You got to be kidding me. CASTIEL You're the one who taught me that freedom and free will -- DEAN You're a freakin' child, you know that? Just because you can do what you want doesn't mean that you get to do whatever you want!

Major Tangent Warning, because I gotta write out what I was thinking earlier in order to explain why I am So Pleased with Cas and his reaction to Chuck in s11, which I think of as abject disdain. This is key to everything Cas had learned, to all of his growth as a person up to that point.

What Dean tells Cas here is in direct contradiction to what Raphael’s self-stated motive in restarting the apocalypse was. Also from 6.20:

RAPHAEL You rebelled - against God, heaven, and me. Now you will atone. We'll start by freeing Lucifer and Michael from their cage. And then we'll get our show back on the road. CASTIEL Raphael...No. The Apocalypse doesn't have to be fought! RAPHAEL Of course it does. It's God's will. CASTIEL How can you say that?! RAPHAEL Because it's what I want. CASTIEL Well, the other angels won't let you. RAPHAEL Are you sure? You know better than anyone, Castiel. They're soldiers. They weren't built for freedom. They were built to follow.

Raphael is just doing “whatever he wants,” in the way Dean was trying to convince Cas NOT to. Because if Dean learns anything in s6, it is the cosmic cost of his own actions. Think 6.11, and the lessons he learns having to play Death for a day. As much as Dean tries to work around the Bigger Picture of the Universe, he does understand that there is a right and a wrong, and that some things are worth fighting or even dying for, but the cost might sometimes just be too great. And unleashing all the souls in purgatory on the planet seems like just a different sort of apocalyptic level of bad... like putting out a fire with a flamethrower.

Cas had to make a choice here. He’d chosen his path every step of the way, wrestled with each decision he’d had to make over the previous year leading up to that point, but he’d passed the point of no return, and his direct prayer to Chuck went unanswered, and he never got a sign whether he was doing the right thing or not.

I’ve argued in the past that he absolutely DID get a sign, in the form of Dean telling him to stop in 6.20. But Cas dismissed him, out of pride, out of hubris, out of desperation to do the one thing he believed could give him the power to stop Apocalypse 2.0, save Heaven, and also save Dean in the process, since Dean would be back on the radar to be Michael’s vessel if Raphael succeeded in breaking him out of the Cage.

And here’s the really tangenty part of the tangent: it just made me think of all the nitwits who won’t wear a mask in public, or follow social distancing rules because MAH FREEDUMB, you’re impinging on MAH LIBERTY. BUT THE CONSTITUTION!

Because yes, we can do what we want, but we can’t do WHATEVER we want when our actions are harmful to others!

The framers of the Constitution could never have foreseen a pandemic like this. But any SOCIETY where people must coexist needs to put some constraints on liberty, and the framers absolutely DID understand this.

They also couldn’t have foreseen air travel, but we have established rules about this. They couldn’t have foreseen cars and traffic lights and interstate highways, and yet we have rules that govern our behavior there, as well. Air traffic controllers, stop signs, speed limits-- we don’t just have the right to drive 90 mph through a school zone and run through red lights. And yet nobody yells BUT MAH FREEDUMB! when they get a speeding ticket.

Polite society ALSO must include *MY* right not to be killed because someone else decided that traffic laws didn’t apply to them, see?

Basically, wear your mask and shut up about it, whiny pissbabies. This is what is required of you to live in a functioning society. You do NOT have the right to infect others with a potentially deadly illness. Full stop.

But back to Cas and the Leviathan infection he’s about to infest the entire planet with...

Dean was effectively giving him the “wear a mask, nitwit” speech, but on a cosmic level.

And Cas had to live with the consequences of his choice, with the GUILT and DEPRESSION that resulted. And he spent the next few seasons desperately trying to make up for what he’d done, to atone and do whatever he could to redeem himself-- to Dean. He’d tried to redeem himself to Heaven, but the more he eventually began to learn about Humanity, the less affinity he felt for his fellow angels, and for Chuck’s construct of Heaven.

Because back to another previous point, Chuck effectively left the angels two opposing sets of instructions: orders to watch over the earth and act as shepherds to humanity, and orders to bring on the apocalypse at any cost. Can’t do both, truly. Even Naomi will eventually say, right before Metatron stabs her in the head, that she (and the other angels) forgot that their true mission was to protect and defend humanity, and she didn’t know when or why that ever changed.

FINALLY back to the point! WHEEE!

Basically, Cas has, in the six years between s5 and s11, experienced “god-ness” from every angle, experienced his own guilt over what he now believes were misguided actions, that sometimes Humanity has a better answer, and there are some things that just aren’t worth it in the long run.

Mostly, he’s realized just HOW deadbeat Chuck has always been. And the revelation that Chuck had actually been God all along? Saw their pain and suffering at trying to STOP the apocalypse all those years before? KNEW FULL WELL that Sam, Dean and Cas were doing everything they could to try and save the world from basically the entirety of Heaven and Hell, who were plotting the destruction of humanity and most of creation with it. I mean... Cas spent s5 begging for God’s help, to save the world, to convince Michael and Lucifer that they did not have to destroy humanity, and Chuck... had done LESS than nothing. He’d sat there and ghoulishly watched the entire mess unfold like a bad tv show... oh wait... :’D

By s11, Lucifer had not reached that point that Cas had. Lucifer had many other issues, having been rejected and locked up for most of existence, and even HE had been the one in 5.22 to try and talk Michael out of enacting Chuck’s battle plan. Lucifer never had the experiences Cas did (and despite being given every opportunity to have them over the next few seasons after s11, he continues to reject those experienced at every turn anyway, only serving to highlight the difference between Cas and, honestly, most of the rest of the angels). Lucifer had a personal need for a direct apology from Chuck for everything he’d been put through-- starting with taking on the original Mark and ending with the cage.

Of course Lucifer didn’t get an honest apology, because in the end, it was all just a theoretical production to Chuck. He had never apologized, in any of his universes, to any of the beings he created. And he never would. And on some level, Cas-- via his experiences, what he himself had already come to understand about God and creation-- already understood this about Chuck.

Cas... didn’t care about him anymore. He cared about HUMANITY, about Chuck’s CREATION. The creator might be a worthless jerk, but what came out of his creation is a thing of ultimate beauty. Humanity, love, free will, and the beauty of the universe is what ends up saving the world in 11.23, so I’ve chosen to accept this read of Cas and his relationship and opinions of Chuck. Because it’s perfectly in line with the “moral” of season 11.

Plus it’s just so personally satisfying to me watching each individual character’s reactions to Chuck, and understanding how that aligns with all of their personal arcs.

Dean: brought the “how could your forsake your creation” of a broken-hearted son who has finally seen the truth. something he worked out YEARS ago between himself and his own father, so it didn’t come with that particular personal baggage and didn’t completely break him in the process (as it may have done with Cas had Chuck revealed himself, say, in 7.01...)

Sam: brought his life-long hope that God was real, his faith in God’s inherent “goodness,” did the Chuck Fanboy for a bit before seeing Chuck a lot more clearly. He was able to relinquish his idol worship of Chuck as the Savior of Humanity.

Cas: had brought his experience of Humanity and Godhood, the entire spectrum of Creation that he had experienced for himself and grown through. Cas, for all his mistakes, had never stopped TRYING to do the right thing, never stopped doing everything in his power to save humanity and creation from every cosmic threat, while Chuck himself had only hidden away and watched from the sidelines, when he’d ALWAYS had the power to make everything good and right and allow the Winchesters their peace. Honestly, what BETTER response than to treat Chuck like a bit of gum stuck to his shoe?

Metatron: who had basically spent s9 trying to turn himself into Chuck Lite, literally plagiarizing his Supernatural novels to create his own origin story as the new God, and failed miserably. What other angel could truly confront Chuck, writer to writer, and call him out for His Story? Even fallen as low as he could go, Metatron understood first-hand the responsibility of The Cosmic Author in ways even Cas couldn’t, because narrative symmetry. Metatron was always about the Word, as God’s Scribe. He was a bad copy of the original with the names scratched out. He basically wrote the worst self-insert fanfic of all time. And that gave him the narrative space to confront Chuck about everything that Cas no longer had. Cas had long since rejected that role, sided with Humanity, and smashed Chuck’s Word. The original tablet-breaker.

Crowley: carried on Crowley-ing. Doing the best he could with what he had, and somehow miraculously BS’ing his way through.

Rowena: recognized the Biggest Power in the room and ingratiated herself to it for comfort and protection, and hopefully for a bit of power and security.

Billie: gosh she just stepped in at the 11th hour to annoy Chuck. :’D

But yeah, I’ve always been incredibly pleased that Cas basically ignored Chuck in s11. Good for him.

#spn 6.20 #spn 5.22 #spn 5.18 #spn 11.20 #spn 11.21 #spn 11.22 #spn 11.23 #spn 14.20 #castiel winchester #chuck's process #in the time of covid-19 #Anonymous

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callistolivia · 5 years

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Asteroids Part 5; Vesta in the Natal Chart

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In the previous part of my asteroid series, I discussed the origins of the asteroid Vesta. In this part, I will go over the general application of this asteroid in the natal chart. Vesta in the natal chart reveals themes of perseverance, refinement, power, purity, and resilience. Where it is located and how it interacts with other planets in the natal chart can show where the individual, especially in a feminine person’s chart, can have dominionship and where people will praise you (or worship you in extreme cases). In a masculine person’s chart it may show the relationship he has with the goddesses in his life (his perception of notable women). It can show where the individual shines light or where they will find light. Vesta is where we find our inner goddessness.

While I won’t provide specific aspect interpretations, if you have a basic understanding for interpreting aspects, the interchanges between planets and Vesta are quite simple to comprehend. I always want to also stress the importance of aspects with tight orbs made to Vesta as the planets represent more prominent dimensions than asteroids do so interchanges between the two are what makes asteroids significant in the natal chart.

Vesta in the Houses

The 1st House This position puts Vesta on a front, making the individual carry out her energy as a true goddess or queen archetype, especially when Vesta conjuncts the ascendant. Depending on the sign Vesta is in will give you the flavours and colours of the individual’s goddessness– one might imagine the grandness from a Leo versus the humbleness of a Virgo. There is immense focus on the self; defining, transforming, and mastering one’s true self. These individuals tend to naturally eminent beauty and purity and may even work with the two or hold high importance for those qualities. Even the most insecure or damaged individuals that have this placement can seek salvation through Vesta here. There is immense fire within that is unlocked, unleashed, and worshipped when the individual masters their true self.

The 2nd House Vesta in the 2nd house puts a focus on resources. Its goddess energy will bring themes of self-sufficiency, security, efficiency and skill in the use of earth magic and material. The individual will be worshipped for their usefulness and ability to create security. People will seek salvation through the individual’s ability to generate and accumulate life-aiding resources. The individual has purifying abilities; purifies resources and material like a flame purifies a needle. Here the goddess is the creator of eternal fire.

The 3rd House Here, Vesta’s eternal fire is in the mind and plays an important role of book-keeping wisdom. She will symbolize the shedding of light and clarity. Vesta in the 3rd house can carry knowledge between worlds– interchanges with the planets will indicate what sorts of information Vesta carries. Vesta here can generate, purify, and refine ideas. The individual will be worshipped for their words or in negative aspects may have to overcome adversities involving people not listening to their hidden wisdom. People will seek salvation through the individual’s opinions and thoughts.

The 4th House When Vesta is in the 4th house, her eternal fires are in the home for the individual. Individual may be worshipped for their domestic role. The maternal parent maybe Vesta-like to the individual, especially if the individual is masculine. Home life’s haven symbolizes great importance; activities involving Vesta themes are prominent in domestic life (purifying, generating, transforming, refining, etc,). Individual’s sacredness is veiled and hidden here. Negative aspects may indicate inhibition to unveiling Vesta’s secret knowledge and goddessness. Tight, positive interchanges symbolizes Vesta’s ability to transfer other energies, bring them into the home, and to transform and refine them. People will seek salvation through the individual’s essence of making them feel at home (especially when Vesta is involved with an empathetic sign or planet).

The 5th House Here, Vesta symbolizes her immense generative powers and her ability to take dominion over creation. An individual with this placement has the potential for producing sacred creations. The individual will be worshipped for their creations and/or will worship/take great pride in their own creations as they will possess Vesta’s goddess-like qualities. People will seek salvation in the individual’s ability to generate happiness and pleasure. Secret wisdom may be within their creations. There is great focus on the creative process as well and all creative processes with Vesta here will undergo stages of transformation and intense refinement.

The 6th House Here, Vesta symbolizes sacred healing abilities. When regenerative abilities are mastered within the individual, it can be prescribed to others. Vesta in the 6th house focuses greatly on purity in the body; diet, physical health, and hygiene will be prominent themes in for Vesta placed here. Similar to the second house, there is proficiency in earth magic, especially in areas dealing with growing plants or working with animals; Vesta here becomes a whisperer to nature and is especially complimentary when the 6th house is aligned with an empathetic sign.

The 7th House When Vesta is in the 7th house, inner goddessness is sought out in other people, especially through partnerships. The individual’s need to be with a partner they can serve and worship is important. Vesta here can master liberation and liberate others. She purifies herself for others and focuses on what her inner fire does for others. An individual with this placement can spend a lot of time working on themselves for other people and it can come from either a positive place or a negative one depending on Vesta’s condition. One’s true self of purity is reached when they’re both comfortable with themselves and comfortable with how others view them.

The 8th House Vesta here opens doors to unspoken wisdom. Here she is transforming and transferring wisdom. Here she illuminates the darkness and purifies the occult. An individual with this placement can master soul intimacy within themselves and shine light to it in other people. An individual with this placement can become very proficient in providing clarity to unspoken topics (sexuality, occult, death, afterlife, etc.). People will seek salvation in this person’s ability to heal others in these areas of life.

The 9th House Here, Vesta is a teacher of sacred wisdom. She is worshipped for her ability to retain and regenerate wisdom. An individual with this placement understands and masters truth; there’s great focus on finding the truth within facts and the purity behind truth– Vesta’s flames reaching at all ends of the earth to uncover truth. People will find salvation in the individual’s ability to bring clarity to wisdoms. Interchanges between the planets will indicate what types of wisdoms Vesta will bring forth upon.

The 10th House Unlike the 4th house, here Vesta is unveiled and her power is brought to a front much like the 1st house, but unlike the 1st house, she manifests Vesta-like actions to the public eye rather than making the individual appear Vesta-like. Here there’s great focus on Vestal processes in public spaces for the individual; generating, regenerating, transforming, and purifying. With certain positive interchanges with planets, it may indicate having some sort of authority and even being worshipped for said authority. This placement may also indicate that the paternal parent may be Vesta-like.

The 11th House Vesta in the 11th house represents salvation in community. When individuals with this placement tap into Vesta’s energy, there is immense focus on building communities for the purpose of growth, security, and transformation. A placement like this brings people together like the hospitality Vesta’s eternal flame provided. Collective worship and collective goddessness are prominent themes here.

The 12th House Here, Vesta has the ability for psychic healing abilities as she has domain over the subconscious realm– positive, tight interchanges with planets such as the moon, Mercury, or Neptune will affirm this. Vesta here symbolizes a purgatory angel having connection between worlds. An individual with this placement may receive information through prophetic dreams, as dreams will be a gateway between worlds. People with heavy karma can hone into Vesta’s goddessness by serving and helping others to redeem and purify themselves. While the 6th house focuses on physical health, Vesta here may put heavy focus on mental health and themes correlated to it.

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The Intermediate State in Revelation

Working on an idea concerning the biblical basis for an intermediate state of those who are eventually to rest in Heaven but need prayer and purification before they are ready. This is the one Catholic/Orthodox teaching which I have continued to have trouble finding a solid basis for in scripture, but as a believing Orthodox I've always firmly believed that it's there to be found. I'm pretty sure that this is what I've been looking for. This presumes a preterist reading of Revelation. See my post "The Intercession of Saints in God's Divine Council" for an exploration of Revelation as the foundation for the doctrine of the invocation of Saints.

The fifth seal of Revelation shows souls "under the altar" who ask "How long, O Lord?" They have suffered for the "witness they had born" in contrast to those who are slain later for the "witness of Jesus." This means that we are dealing with the saints of the old covenant, those whom Jesus spoke of when He spoke of "all the blood from Abel to Zechariah" coming on Jerusalem. In John 20, Jesus speaks of His "ascent" to the Father, fulfilling other passages in John where the Lord says that no one before Him has "ascended to heaven." Revelation 4-5 shows Jesus' heavenly ascent to the Father as high priest. This is the first time that a man has been exalted into God's throne-room. But the saints of the old covenant wonder why they are still "under the altar." The Bronze Altar is in the middle of the Temple Courtyard, and the Courtyard signifies the terrestrial realm in contrast to the stellar heavens that is the Holy Place and the heavenly throne-room that is the Holy of Holies.

They are given white robes, but no crowns. The robes are one piece of a two part priestly garment that includes crowns, and Jesus has just ascended as the heavenly high priest with a golden crown- the "seven eyes" of the Lamb is a quotation of Zechariah 3, where the high priest has a crown with "seven eyes" referring to the seven Hebrew letters in the words "Holy to YHWH" on the crown of the high priest. The entirety of Revelation enacts the Day of Atonement, which consists of a double ascent and a sending away of a goat to destruction. The first ascent is for the High Priest, the second is for the whole people. The first ascent is in Revelation 4-5, Jesus as High Priest. The second is in Revelation 20, where the saints of old and new covenants are enthroned in Heaven during the age of the Church (millennium), fulfilling the words of the Lord Jesus Christ in John: "I go to prepare a place for you, so that where I am, you may be also."

What is it that brings the saints of the old covenant up? The Day of Atonement is enacted through a series of sevenfold sprinklings which purify the creation and allow for heavenly ascent. In Revelation, the sevenfold sprinklings are signified by the seven bowls of wrath, which are filled with the blood of the saints (see above on Jesus' words about the blood of Abel). Once those are poured out on the Earth, the saints of both covenants ascend- the old covenant saints of Revelation 6 and the new covenant saints of Revelation 14-16.

Finally, Revelation corresponds blow by blow with the Divine Liturgy. In order:

1. The Little Entrance is when the priest first ascends to the altar, and originally the priest stood outside the altar before the little entrance. This is the first ascent in Revelation 4-5.

2. He brings up to the altar the Gospel Book- when Jesus ascends in Revelation 4-5 He then opens the book in Revelation 6.

3. The priest or deacon reads the words of the gospel aloud- the trumpets begin to blow, enacting the contents of the unsealed scroll.

4. The priest, having meditated on the scriptures, preaches them out. Revelation 10, St. John consumes a little scroll and then preaches forth their contents- the "seven thunders" that are hidden in Revelation 10 are unfolded by St. John in 11-13, signified by the seven successive "loud noises."

5. The Great Entrance brings forth the Gifts. This is signified by 14-15. The martyrdom of the saints is a harvest of Bread and Wine. Importantly, this is the liturgical moment where we commemorate those who have reposed.

6. The Liturgy of the Faithful is signified in 16-19, where the harvest that has been produced brings about its impact on the world, shattering Babylon, redeeming the saints, and communing the faithful in the "Marriage Supper of the Lamb" in Revelation 19:9.

7. The dismissal is in the rest of Revelation, where Jesus, riding on the White Horse, leads the redeemed saints out into the world to conquer it by the word of God. Having communed of the Holy Gifts, we ride out to transfigure the world with that strength.

So what do we see? We see that the blood which brings the saints up from the intermediate state to the heavenly court is the blood of the saints- indeed, the white robes identified in Revelation 6 are later called the "deeds of the saints." The liturgical correspondence provides a basis for the practice of commemorating the dead during the Divine Liturgy and praying for their sabbatical repose in God's heavenly throne-room and out of the intermediate state. The blood of the saints, joined to Christ, is the means by which the blood of Christ accomplishes its final purpose for those Saints in the intermediate state (you can even call it "purgatory" if that is appropriately qualified). The bowls of Revelation simultaneously signify the "bowls" of incense spoken of in the OT, identified with the "prayers of the saints", providing a theological elucidation of prayer for the reposed in light of the NT canon.

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Fandom rambles: Thoughts about SPN 12x13

Disclaimer: I don't usually watch teaser trailers, so keep that in mind in case some of my ramblings are already obsolete because of next weeks trailer.

I'm actually quite satisfied with this week's Supernatural episode.

Yeah, it feels weird to have this non-conclusion type of episode. Everything is left hanging, nothing resolved. But hasn't it been that way ever since the end of 11? Supernatural is no longer about the success of the hunt. It's about the various ways to get there. And there are various ways to achieve success.

One might be inclined to simply hunt down all supernatural creatures and believe in a happily ever after for humankind like the BMOL or Mary are.

Another might want to take control of the situation and go about it more differentially like the Winchester brothers and their non-human allies.

Dean stood for us the viewers when he asked Mary: “So where does leave us?”

And Mary for the writers when she answered: “Same as always. Family.” This episode was the precursor for the hard choices our characters will have to make for the sake of their family/families.

The only one whose choices I'm currently sure about is Dean. Where Sam's heart broke a little bit when Mary admitted to working with the BMOL, Dean's hunch was shown as being justified. He had seen something coming and was not really surprised by it. His whole body language afterwards spelled out that he was done with Mary's shit (literal facepalm applied). He only listened because Sam was emotionally not yet there yet and needed to hear it. So if going forwards Dean will be seen as supposedly working with the BMOL it will be only for Sam's benefit, who is not yet ready to let his mother go. But if it was only him, he would have shoved Mary's ass out of the bunker door that instance.

In accordance with aforementioned quote, Dean is aware that his family contains nearly more supernatural “creatures” than humans at this point. For starters obvious by his very absence this episode: Cas.

Whatever happened in the last years, it always had Cas there at the epicenter with Dean. Those two are able to pull each other from the brink like no other two in this show. Breaking demonic drive (Dean was not possessed so I call it drive until I come across a better term) and angelic reprogramming. They died for each other a couple of times and don't get me started on their slow burn romance.

So, yes, family includes an angel. As Mary is canonically not yet aware, most angels are dicks.

Cas is not, mostly, if he doesn't try to fix things by ramping his powers up with all souls from Purgatory and plays God for a while. So her point of reference is skewed by previous beliefs (again remember the little putto she put up above Sam's crib, therefore making sure we know she believes in good angels as guardians) and the absence of evidence to the contrary at this point. She never saw another side to Cas as his “baby in a trenchcoat” and “omg, nearly dying here for you/don’t let you die here” persona. Never saw the soldier/warrior at full strength.

Then there is Dean's currently strained complicated relationship with the King of Hell himself. Crowley, who very probably is the closest thing you could call Dean's ex at this point. Heartbroken Crowley, who still is very much willing to risk his very livelihood for his slice of humanity. Crowley, who discovered he still has a heart after all, even without doping up on human-blood. I don't think Mary has ever met Crowley outside of 12x12 and only heard briefly about him beforehand. (As much as we have the Winchester seen read their father's journal, we never saw them adding to it, so she would not find information of the past 10 years in it.) So, King of Hell is a concept she must be struggling with still. She most likely does not know about the big Summer of Love and (B)romance her son and Crowley had and where they did unspeakable things to triplets together. I very much doubt her sons have clued her in about that whole “oh, by the way Dean here has been a demon for a while before we cured him and he was also number one pupil to number one torturer of Hell, Alastair, for about 10 years Hell-time before Cas gripped him tight and raised him from perdition, because Apocalypse and Michael’s vessel and btw, Mom, Angel Breeding Program, ever heard of that”-thing. Because when your mother gets resurrected after 33 years and is struggling to make sense of the world, that is totally the first thing you tell her about. *snorts sarcastically* Those are her sons, the only people (without an agenda) she has a connection to nowadays, and they are maybe anything else but purely human and that is totally fine for them (most of the time). It's confusing as it is, that her sons are not kids anymore. For her Crowley is simply Mister Demon-King, who somehow decided to help her sons out against Ramiel, but did not do much but to break a lance. (She would not be privy to the happenings outside the barn and the implication of that short encounter, as well, as she only would have heard Dean being angry with the guy and tell him to get out while she was a bit busy with Cas lying on the couch dying.)

Since Mary had not been seen in a long while according to Dean, we can safely assume she is also not privy to the happenings of “Regarding Dean” and therefore does not know about the new kinship with Rowena (and probably barely about her at all, lest to say her very personal, familial connection to aforementioned King of Hell). So Rowena is just a witch and witches are evil according to the old hunter's playbook.

But Dean has risen beyond that over the last 10 years and he shared his moments with Rowena and formed a bond. She might not be family yet, but she is very much on her way there. Kicking and screaming of course, as is befitting for the most powerful witch on this planet!

Sam is still somewhere in between Mary's old ways and Dean's new ones. Ironic as it is, since it was Sam who first insisted on saving those “monsters” who had not yet done irredeemable things, while Dean was more set on following their father's (and unknowingly their mother's) footsteps.

But Sam has started to realize the flaws in his logic. He knows, even fully human he is just as much a monster as those they were trained to bring down. The demon pact his own mother made sealed his destiny, he never really stood a chance. But it is only now that he realizes this. Before he only blamed himself for getting addicted on demon-blood, for not being strong enough not to use his psychic powers, for not stopping the Apocalypse… you name it.

Now he sees that John brought him up as a hunter (human monster to others), while always despising himself for potentially being what they hunted. He will never be able to rid himself of that past, but he can accept it and move forward on a path of his own creation. He can let monsters live not to redeem himself by proxy as before, but because nearly everyone is a monster if you look closely enough. Mary does not see it (yet). For her sake I hope she'll realize that new mantra of “family doesn't end with blood” and there needs to be “a cosmic balance between light and dark” (literally stated by Chuck in 12x23 – and hasn't He practically given the reigns to Dean before going on his siblings retreat?) before it is too late for her.

Family for Mary are her boys. Only just so including Cas, because he is an angel and Dean's BF(F). Family for her boys are those who stood beside them despite everything no matter their status of blood/soul/grace.

So, yes, this week's episode was more transitional than anything else. It transitioned the timeline back to its origin and the family/ies to the point of making choices.

Rowena choosing to do the right thing for the wrong reasons, Crowley choosing not to forgive her. (Isn't that something that a demon – without human-blood addiction – has even enough heart to be heartbroken about the loss of his son! - Hm, maybe I should get back to that train of thought in a different post.)

Dean choosing to hear Mary out for Sam's sake. Sam choosing whether he can forgive Mary or not.

Mary choosing to do as the BMOL always wanted and try to bring her boys into the fold, all the while thinking she does the opposite.

Kelly Kline choosing to trust Dagon with her safety and that of her unborn child. (Which will lead her straight back to Lucifer.)

But what is right is not always easy and can sometimes leave you hanging.

#Supernatural #SPN meta #SPN 12x13 #fandom rambles #why can't I just not stop thinking about things #I was able to watch shows casually once #seems to be a long time ago #damn you SPN

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Have A Good Day - March

Comments, quotes and advice for daily contemplation from letters of St Padre Pio

Daily Quote For The Month of March

March 1: "Father, you love what I fear."…

Padre Pio: "I do not love suffering, itself; I ask it of God because I desire its fruits: it gives glory to God, saves my brothers in exile, and frees souls from the fires of purgatory. What more can I ask?"

"Father, what is suffering?"…

Padre Pio: "Expiation!"

"And for you, what is it?"

Padre Pio: "My daily bread, my delight!"

March 2: We do not want to accept the fact that suffering is necessary for our souls, that the Cross must be our daily bread. Just as the body is in need of nutrition, so is the soul in need of the cross which, day by day, purifies it, and detaches it from the mundane. We do not wish to understand that God neither wants, nor is able, to save and sanctify us without the cross; the more He calls a soul to Him, the more He sanctifies it by means of the cross.

March 3: Everyone on this earth has his own cross; so guard against being like the bad thief, instead, be like the good thief.

March 4: The Lord cannot give me a Cyrenian. I must do God's will, so if He is please, nothing else matters.

March 5: During your lifetime, Jesus does not ask you to carry His heavy cross, but only a little piece of His cross, a piece which comprises human suffering.

March 6: First of all, I must tell you that, because of human impiety, Jesus needs someone to cry with Him, therefore He leads me through the sorrowful paths of which you speak. But blessed be His charity! He always knows how to combine the bitter with the sweet, how to convert the transient pains of this life into eternal happiness.

March 7: Have no fear, just consider yourself most lucky to have been made worthy of participating in the sufferings of the God-Man. It is not abandonment, but love, great love, which God is showing you. This is not a state of punishment, but of the finest love. Bless the Lord for it, and become resigned to drinking the Chalice of Gethsemane.

March 8: I understand my daughter, that your Calvary is becoming increasingly painful. Remember that it was on Calvary that Jesus accomplished our redemption; and it is on Calvary that the redeemed soul must fulfill its salvation.

March 9: You are suffering very much, but isn't this, perhaps, a jewel from the spouse.

Much 10: The Lord sometimes makes you feel the weight of the cross. Although the weight seems intolerable, you are able to carry it, because the Lord, in His love and mercy, extends a hand to you, and gives you strength.

March 11: Certain inner delights are childish. They are not signs of perfection. Pains are necessary, not delights. Aridity, littleness, impotence; these are the signs of true love. Pain is pleasurable. Exile is beautiful, because by suffering, we are able to give something to God. The gift of pain, of suffering, is a big thing, and cannot be accomplished in Paradise.

March 12: I would prefer thousand crosses, in fact, every cross would seem sweet and light, if only I were not troubled by the uncertainty that my works are pleasing to the Lord… It is painful to live this way… I am resigned, but my resignation, my fiat, seems cold and vain to me!… What a mystery! Jesus, alone, can account for it.

March 13: Love Jesus; when you love Him much, you will love sacrifice even more.

March 14: A good heart is always strong; we may suffer, but in spite of our tears, we find consolation in sacrificing ourselves for God and neighbor.

March 15: Whoever begins to love, must be ready to suffer.

March 16: Pain has been the gratification of great souls. Since the unfortunate fall of creation, it has become a powerful lever to raise us up again; it is the helping hand of Infinite Love for our regeneration.

March 17: Do not fear adversity; because by it, your soul is placed at the foot of the cross which takes you to the doors of Heaven. There you will find Him who triumphed over death, Who will introduce you to eternal happiness.

March 18: … When you suffer and are resigned to His will, you will love Him, rather than offend Him. Your heart will find great comfort in knowing that, in your hour of pain, Jesus, himself, suffers in you and for you. He did not abandon you when you left Him; why should He abandon you now that, with your spiritual martyrdom, you are proving your love for Him?

March 19: Be magnanimous in your ascent to Calvary; love Him Who sacrificed Himself for love of us; with patience, you can be sure of reaching Tabor.

March 20: Let us ascend to Calvary carrying the cross, and be sure that our ascension will lead us to the Heavenly vision of our most sweet Savior.

March 21: The cross will never oppress you; its weight might cause you to stagger, but its strength will sustain you.

March 22: Jesus is never without the cross, but the cross is never without Jesus.

March 23: Many suffer, but few know how to suffer well. Suffering is a gift from God; blessed is he who knows how to profit by it.

March 24: Always be desirous of pain which, in addition to being the result of Divine Wisdom, reveals to us the effects of God's love.

March 25: Why does the Lord permit such intense pain? The Lord permits it so that everything we receive is not just a gift. In order not to humiliate His creatures, He wants a little bit from them, even though that "little bit" which they offer Him, comes from Him, Himself.

March 26: Life is a Calvary; but one must ascend happily; Crosses are jewels from the Spouse, and I am anxious to have them. My sufferings please me. I suffer only when I am not suffering.

March 27: The God of Christians is the God of metamorphosis (A/K/A Transformation ): you throw your pain in His lap, and retrieve peace; you throw your despair, and retrieve hope.

March 28: The angels envy us for just one thing: they cannot suffer for God. Only pain permits a soul to say with certitude: My God, see how much I love you!

March 29: Our physical and moral pains are the only worthy offering we can make to Him Who saved us by suffering.

March 30: I am greatly pleased to hear that our Lord caresses your soul prodigiously. I know that you are suffering, but isn't suffering, perhaps, a sure sign that God loves you? Isn't this suffering, perhaps, the distinction of every soul who has chosen for his portion and heredity, a God, a crucified God? I know they your spirits are always disturbed by the shadow of trial, but, my dear child, all you need to know is that Jesus is with you and in you.

March 31: Accept every pain and inconvenience that comes from Heaven. Thus you will attain perfection and sanctification.

#have a good day

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