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whitefantasy21-blog · 2 years
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"It was funny, really" Cale looked at the sunset, mind wandering to distant memories.
"Mother was a seer, and she was so afraid of the what will happen that she forgot i needed her in the present. I felt like i lost her long before she even died..." he sigh "Then, Father was depressed and stuck with what once was, that he forgot I needed him too." still not looking away from the view Cale continues
"Then you..." Cale felt abit more tired than ever, "You stuck by me after all these years, only to leave me without a word" it was like life was all one big joke on the red hair, his companion stayed silent "Sometimes I wish you just left from the beginning, rather than making me believe that I meant something to you too" Cale turned his back, like everyone did to him.
Ron still didn't say anything, (he had no right to.) but, it feels like he lost a son.
The irony of pain is that you want to be comforted by the person who hurt you, but they never do.
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salaapaoo · 1 year
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You know what'd be interesting to see??
A fic where Violan centric or like rly good parent Violan
Imagine Deruth is just a cheating bastard and she got lied too as well?? So she manages to arrange a meeting with Jour and she apologizes and asks what to do
And jour doesn't blame her because Deruth is just a bastard, maybe they talk about how in the beginning he's always so good and then his true colours start to show?
Maybe jour tells her to marry into the family if given the chance.. so she and her children can live in the comfort that wealth can provide.
And then once she marries in? She sees how neglected og Cale is by his father and tries to talk some sense into the man but he just blows her off saying the boy looks too much like his previous wife and making excuses about how it hurts to be around him but his eyes aren't .. she can tell he's lying??
So she starts bonding with Cale, telling him he could hate her if he wanted, but if he ever needed someone.. she would be there for him. Maybe she would tell him how she got to know his mother in the months before she passed and tells him that he is as much a child to her as Basen and lily.
Like imagine a line that's smth like
I could never replace your mama... But if you'll accept me, maybe I could be your mother and be there for you.
Smth like that
Maybe she slowly poisons Deruth and takes over the county and raises all three of her children with love
She's a smart woman.. she totally knows who resides in the house and the territory. Deruth probably thinks she doesn't know he's a lying cheating bastard, he just assumes she's a nosy woman who has a soft spot for children?
Mama bear Violan... 🥺
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galaxygirl8880 · 1 year
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The Henituse family but they meet an au where Cale grew up happy.
He's kind, he's sweet, he smiles and laughs freely, Beacrox of his world had been teaching him how to cook because Cale had asked, jour is still alive (with a maybe little sibling on the way) and teaches him things about the Thames family and their research, he'd been taking sword lessons, Ron is still a father figure in his life, Deruth isn't neglectful and tries to make time for his family at least once a week, Cale is actually open with his father and calls him dad, he's is a bright student in his studies, he helps out with some of his parents paperwork for when he becomes the count and has already made improvements, and Deruth of the original's world can only stare in shock
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Hnnnhgh
I have literally so many drafts and I hate all of them
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simpshaaaa · 8 months
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I have two side
One side giggling about Deruth being a single father, spoiling little Cale with gifts and attending teacher meetings and praising Cale a lot
Another side is screaming about Deruth neglecting little Cale after the death of his wife because his son looks so much like her, it hurts
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stanhailet · 2 months
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Wait a minute........ The neglectful father of Deruth is fanon!?
The fact that he brought Violan and Basen without telling Cale about it, but only a few days before the wedding is fanon!?
Is the fact that he rejected Cale shortly after the death of Cale's mother also a fanon??
Come to think of it, I really don't remember it being mentioned. Did this fanon appear only because Deruth spoiled Cale and did not try to correct his character? Or was it mentioned in the novel after all?
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moonyinthehouse · 2 years
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I don't get why everyone thinks that Deruth is completely neglectful and never try to correct his mistakes until the end.
In the novel, literally the first chapter, he still asked Cale to have breakfast together despite Cale probably rejecting the invitation most of the time. He tried to start a conversation with Cale, fully expecting a rude response. He was so happy when Cale was genuinely enjoying his food.
He's not the world's most perfect father but he's definitely not a bad one.
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ohmycale · 1 year
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There is a tiktok that they hate Deruth and they literally hate him? Then somebody on Twitter countered that Zed was a worse father to Alver and he didnt get hate as much as Deruth. What's your take on it? Is there a double standard for you?
Okay, let's break it down, shall we?
First off, I don’t know about this particular TikTok video and I don’t use the platform so I am taking the things you said at face value.
Second, everyone who has heard of TCF/TBOAH and their characters will have an opinion about them. They are entitled to their opinions about anyone and everything and enjoy the same space and perks as people like me who usually have counter opinions about their opinions. It’s the internet at its finest. 
Third, Hate is a strong word for me and I don’t use it lightly. I try to avoid it. My feelings about Deruth are the same feelings I had for my father with acknowledged bias and projection. Yes, I felt disappointed and angry at him for a long time but I learned to manage my feelings and learned to not be bothered by people who didn’t treat me well. And as I project my feelings into Deruth and other characters, it’s the same thing I do for og!cale. Other fans do the same thing. 
Fourth on Zed and benign compared to Deruth. I don’t comment much on Zed because I believe that he is a trash father from day one and embodies the existence of sperm donors at their finest. What is there to be said, really when everyone agrees on one opinion about him?  Deruth, on the other hand, claims to be living his family motto and then sought out his personal happiness over his son. He is constantly characterized as a ‘good’ but flawed father. That opinion is dependent on whom you are asking, of course. My further opinion about this man is evident in my other posts. Overall, there is no incentive to talk about Zed when you already know from the get-go what kind of ‘father’ he is. Deruth is pretty much a controversial character in this context given his background and ‘progress’ in canon. 
In terms of double standards, I see them equally as men who shouldn't be fathers. That's putting it very lightly. I'm sure others I know personally would have more…colorful words to describe them.  And I’m somewhat irritated that mental neglect/trauma is seen as ‘lower’ than physical neglect/death. It's the invisible scars that grow over time that goes unnoticed and for some people, eventually, wish that they haven't lived or incapacitate them to live better lives. Worst-case scenario, you get judged for not being able to ‘move on’ and ‘be normal’ or shit things people say. Reminds of parents who do do-overs with new families and expect old kids and be a ‘family’ just because.  That's basically Deruth for you. 
Fifth, Alver still has his family with Tasha. Someone who knows understands and care for him just like his mother had done. I can’t say the same for Og!cale. Og!cale’s family is….just not there for him and didnt understand him when he needed it most. His father found a new family and tried to blend him in without actually considering his feelings. Or just thinking that og!cale having new family members = happiness. It doesn't matter if he accepted them eventually. The assumption that og!cale would just go with the flow is so insidious to assume.  His supposed family might care for him, but I don't really see the them understanding what he has gone through and still going through. Ron and Vicross, as we all know, left for their dreams of revenge. Hans, God bless his soul, is a servant to him and under Deruth’s command and authority. So, who is really there for him? 
Sixth, I like that Deruth’s actions are sparkling a debate. It means that people don’t see him as a one dimensioned character even though my feelings would want otherwise. People will have their judgment of him and agree to disagree is still a thing (I guess). The only thing that I care about is og!cale is happy wherever he is right now…with or without Deruth.  
Thanks for the Ask. Sorry for the wall of text.
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I am having an idea about a yandere og!cale
Cale is still a child when he lost his mother to death and at the same his father through neglect.
Even as a child he became mature, for his father who never really comfort him and lean on him when it was supposed to be him leaning to his father.
Cale who became numb to everything from the insults, the loneliness, etc.
Cale who felt betrayed and replaced by his own father and became an outsider for a new family his father creating(certainly not including him, since he is still being ignored).
Cale who is having a bitter and envious feeling towards his step brother as Basen is clearly having his father's attention that he wants so bad to have (And for Basen to think that he don't belong like who the hell does he think he is? and Cale is so offended because out of the two it felt more like Cale is the one who is not the son, a family member but instead is just a stranger)
Cale who sacrificed his everything just to make his father happy and if it meant protecting his step family from everyone who kept badmouthing them at the cost of own his own heart becoming more numb to emotions, for his own dignity, ego, reputation, and dreams, then so be it.
Drinking alcohol he found out is also helpful for trying to just forget and hoping to just kill him someday
And Ron whom he think as his own father figure left him without any notice AND for the one who him while Ron's son just watch him getting beaten up and so, Cale figure out that it was not everyone who left him is at fault but instead it was him who is the problem because one is an accident(Jour), two is a coincident(Deruth) and trice is a pattern(Ron),
And Cale who is so tired of everything, who just wanted to die just to rest suddenly met the reader?
The reader slowly became
His friend,
His trusted companion,
His happiness,
Who upon realizing is not leaving him, the reader became
His love,
His obsession,
His sanity,
His reason of living,
His world,
His everything.
And Cale would do anything and everything just for the reader to stay with him and he would not care if it meant;
Becoming a dog for the reader and do everything the reader wanted without a question asked.
Becoming the reader's punching bag? He would accept the beatings
Tie him up, humilates him, spit on him, insults him, use him he would take it afterall he already throw his pride, ego, and shame long ago
And if you try to collar him he will proudly wear it because to him it meant that you are claiming him as yours
He would even gladly lick the floor if you should ask or mention it even jokingly.
If it meant that you are happy he would gladly do everything for you, afterall you are his only reason of living.
As LONG as you would stay with him, that you will be by his side, AND that YOU WILL NOT LEAVE HIM. But if you try to mention or try to leave even once?
Cale would Snapped, and snapped VERY HARD with a hint of madness and insanity
Because, after everything he had done, you will leave him too? Did he do anything wrong? and to just tell him if something is wrong with him to make you want to leave his side and he will immediately fix it.
He would be begging and crying at the very beginning and his thoughts will fast tract to delusions and the breaking of his own sanity. And it would be very dangerous, fast.(specially to you reader, not physically since he wouldn't dare to hurt and touch his world. But mentally? emotionally? Now those will be most affected)
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NO BECAUSE I ALSO THINK OG!CALE HAS A LOT OF POTENTIAL TO BECOME A YANDERE
you know when you feel like everyone turns back from you so when someone voluntarily comes to you, you'd do anything to keep them by your side?
men with mommy issues are kinda fucked up in the head sooo
anon babe i really think your brain is GALAXY big or smth because !!!!
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bloustorm · 2 years
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FIRE DANCER CALE FOR THE 5+ HC FOR AN AU POST
Proto I'm kissing you, I love that apparently that au is stuck in your brain xD
Now let me check the google doc to know what you know and if i remember something not in there that you don't know :')
... Oh boy is the doc empty
Cale learns enough magic to summon and control flames on a small scale but nothing much, in terms of power he is basically just a fancy lighter. Though he knows how to use that fire very efficiently if he needs to. One of the older workers actually helped him with that after deciding that the color of fire would go nicely with his complexion. He hadn't had much of an interest in it to begin with until she showed him some neat little tricks. Though while he can use some magic now he tends not too as it is usually too much for him with the shows and stuff.
I've just decided that in the case that he adopts Raon (and why wouldn't he?? It would be too sad if he didn't) he turns him and the other two into little pyromaniacs. With On and Hong they mostly had to test out which poisons were save but gave a nice special effect, and weren't flammable as well. Which of course opened a whole new world of possibilities for the little cats who hadn't even really considered that fact. (Spreading poisonous fog and then setting it aflame for massive ground covering damage).
With On and Hong seeing Cale as a big brother rather than a father it's kind of complicated at first when Raon enters the mix, because he views Cale as a kind of father figure (not that he would say that or that Cale is aware enough to notice) and On (Hong not that much) is torn at first between "I'm his older sister, I',m still a kid as well" and "I'm his aunt, I should be more responsible" before she looks at how the others behave and decides that it doesn't matter, family is family after all.
It takes a while before the Henituse family notices that Cale left the city, the people who were supposed to keep a "subtle" eye on Cale had been neglecting their jobs for a while. Of course they are very panicked and worried about it and are trying to find Cale, but it's like he just vanished. No one knows what happened. While they search his home they find a letter that explains that Cale found a job that pays good so he wouldn't bother them anymore with leeching off (of course it wasn't written with these words but a devastated Deruth read it that way). Meanwhile Cale was kinda heartbroken because he noticed that nothing changed, he had suspected that maybe his family didn't care but it hurt to see it happening, by the time he could have noticed the change he was however to far away and distracted by other problems to notice anything.
I'm not sure yet when it should be set timeline-wise besides around the age of 18 and the family Vassals managed to get him kicked out, right now after all I'm entertaining the idea that he managed to rescue Raon by being the distraction (aka dancing) or at least asking his fellow dancers to distract the guards because there was something fishy going on here and then investigating himself and rescuing Raon, of course that would mean that he would need to build up enough trust with these people (more like learn that he can depend on others) for that to work hmmm wait this isn't a hc
Cale probably has some faint burn scars that didn't heal right or that he thought weren't bad enough to get healed, it's not easy to notice but they shimmer a bit in the light, and while it adds a bit of a mystical allure to him when he dances with fire and his skin seems to shimmer he and the kids are a bit frowny about it, also everyone who recognizes them realizes that Cale actually had to work really hard on the control he has now and that it didn't come to him easy in any way
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whenever i write deruth, i always focus on writing him as a deeply flawed parent who isnt evil
he’s not a bad person, he doesn’t hate his son, he’s just not the best parent out there. he’s doing his best in his own way and he’s failing as well. deruth loves his son, clearly, and he’s willing to do whatever it takes in order to become a good father but he’s too much of a fool to know what exactly being a good father entails. he’s an idiot but he’s not an evil idiot. i neither write him as a terrible father or a great father, he’s a flawed father.
however when i write zed, i just go nuts. asshole is a neglectful douchebag who can die early thanks <3 (i know that deruth and zed are arguably similarly flawed but im ngl... i will never forgive zed after the indignity test. the fact that kim roksu felt the need to tell zed “hey so dont take this out on alver” just speaks to how despicable a person he is. i dont care if kim roksu was incorrectly assessing the situation, the fact that he could make that assessment to begin with makes me hate him so much)
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leniiva · 3 years
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I….do not like Deruth Henituse.
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hajidumps · 2 years
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Cale's actions doesn't excused Deruth's
Cale was a child who was lost, he tried to be there for his father. He was the one who took a step forward to mend their relationship: to salvage it. And what did Deruth do? nothing! like always.
Did Deruth even gave Cale a chance to be comfortable with Violan and Basen? No, he barged into Cale's life, like Cale's emotions aren't important. The boy was still grieving for his dead mother, and yet Deruth had said to Cale that he has a new mother; like its trivial, like his mother was not important and replaceable.
Deruth was a bad father to Cale because he did nothing. Even if in the latest chapters their relationship is somewhat okay, Cale was the one who did something. The damage was already done when Deruth had did nothing to connect with Cale. How many damage did you think was inflicted to Cale. Deruth did nothing even though Cale acted bratty, never asking the cause of it, never looking to what truly matters. Deruth did nothing and enabled Cale, Deruth did not stop Cale when he started drinking, did not look deeper.
He may had been grieving for his dead wife, but that was not a reason to neglect his child. He wasn't the only one who lost something. He had a lot of time, so much lost time to change and act like a father to Cale but he didn't.
Deruth was a coward and a failure of a father, an enabler to Cale. Making Cale miserable because of the loss he felt is just cowardice.
Sure Cale went further away from them, but tell me. Will you keep on going to something that you know, you will not be welcomed nor accepted? Will you keep on reaching out when all efforts you made where disregard and ignored? Cale did not have time to mature and grieve right. Cale had no one to lean on when he needed it the most.
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anastacius · 2 years
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Jour Thames rant
So whenever I go and read the novel, I somehow always think that the author is trying to dodge the topic of Jour Thames. It's probably because the author is trying to save all the surprises related to Og Cale and his maternal family for the 2nd part of the novel. I mean cliff hangers are different, and dodging something is entirely different. I remember being so frustrated around[ ch 300-till present] over the fact that Og Cale's family matters are being neglected and the fact that we didn't get enough flashbacks for his childhood. It will probably come in part 2. But when I finally read the interaction between Og Cale and Og KRS I was relieved. But it has been similar to how Alberu's mother's name is not even mentioned in the past 700+ chapters. And how we had no wind about the fact that Basen's biological father was not Deruth. Or anything related to Raon's father[ Remember that the world tree mentioned Find Raon's parents and not only mother, but I guess that solidifies Cale's position in the young dragon's life, but even though he is dead, I would love to know about him from Sheritt, like how he and Raon are both great and mighty >.<]. Also during the time SG's test was taking place I was thinking that we might finally get a few scenes of Rosalyn and her family interactions but that was a downer. All in all, what I want to say is that it would be good to know these things than our Cale's thoughts over every two-line said by a different Character.
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atenagi · 2 years
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TCF HEADCANONS (1)
Deruth stepping up as a father figure for both Cale and Ableru
To Cale, someone who's father died when he was still KRS, and Alberu who's neglected by his father (let's just not talk about Zed since he's still that ambiguous), they both are actually so hungry for paternal affection that they clung to Deruth who showed them just that, even unconsciously.
CALE
During KRS!Cale's fist years as Cale, he may or may not felt like an impostor. But as he lived with Deruth, he felt himself gravitate towards the man and follow his every request. He gradually felt more comfortable talking with him and would relish in those small moments that they eat together and drink tea together. They would sometimes engage in conversation where Deruth tries to sneakily teach and test Cale about territorial studies that he dropped when he was young. Cale would find himself actually listening to Deruth and would not hesitate to share his thoughts, which would surprise Deruth. In those moments that Cale showed his brilliance and tenacity that Deruth could not help but be proud and smile at his son who was changing at such a fast pace. And as time passed Deruth re-learned to place a gentle hand on Cale's shoulders, head or back. In return, Cale would lean towards his father's touch. It isn't a secret that Deruth was a bit overprotective and indulgent of Cale, if his years as trash was anything to come by. No one can touch the eldest son without going through the father's thick shell, not even marriage proposals -- ESPECIALLY NOT MARRIAGE PROPOSALS. He was supportive to a fault that he even hired so many people for the war just to keep his son safe (which he really couldn't help with bc his son is self-sacrificial). But there were also small moments, like him investing in the bakery that made Cale's favorite cookies, taking him to a play when he learned about Cale's favorite book (speaking of, he just donated a crap ton of books to Billos' shop just so Cale could read them when he goes there) and even supplying his mansion with fresh ingredients when he moved out. But perhaps, the biggest thing Deruth did for Cale was to simply understand him and support him with whatever he wanted to do, even if it meant that he would be a venerated hero who got hurt often. That's just how much he loved his son.
ALBERU
It wasn't noticable at first. He was just this rich noble who happened to be the father of one of his associates. He was a turtle, silent yet strong. What the prince didn't know was that he was also very protective, sturdy and a little headstrong. They barely interacted outside of formal events, but Alberu was still under the impression that the Henituse patriarch was not one to mess with, EVER. He watched how Deruth flipped the Capital over when Cale was imprisoned in that orb. He didn't need to worry about his sworn brother when his father was like a snapping turtle at everyone who wanted to take advantage of the situation. He was partially the reason Alberu could sleep and go to cale in Korea with no regrets. And somehow, he noticed that his cookie tray was always full with the brand that Cale particularly liked and his tea collection magically got filled up from time to time. Then he would briefly brush with the man who always had a gentle smile towards him, totally unlike the power hungry nobles in the capital. But sometimes, be could see a very familiar smirk and would later know that someone would somehow get his assets frozen or information against him got out -- Alberu knew exactly who did it. So instead of being shocked, he just got this unfamiliar feeling when he heard Deruth had basically told the king to "get his shit together" and not to involve his son. It would have been nothing, maybe a little amusing, if it was only Cale, but no, Deruth told the king off not to involve him too. It was the first time someone actually defended him in front of his father. Later on, he would see himself get slightly jealous when he saw the bond between Cale and Deruth. But the man, as if sensing this would smile gently at Alberu before turning back to his son. So no one, not even Cale, would speak about the day be teared a little when Deruth patted his head while saying "I'm proud of you your highness. Thank you."
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simpshaaaa · 9 months
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Hot takes(?) About og!Cale <3
Trash people doesn't need that much trauma to be trash
Og!Cale is naturally trash due to neglectance from his father. But that doesn't mean they're in that bad relationship and hostile.
It's more like awkward relationship where both of them can't communicate properly.
Cale have some sort of respect to his father. He never bothers or reach out to him, same goes to his siblings and his stepmother. But he does love causing troubles and never grew out of his alcoholic phrase
Deruth despite being emotional absent father, he still provide Cale's needs and wants. He's a bad father? Or good?? Somewhere in between.
He probably doesn't know much about Cale, but since he provided Cale needs and wants, he do have some knowledge in what Cale took interests in or like
Some fanon I like about Cale
I don't see Cale as someone who is emotional. He's a bottled up teenage kid/young adult who likes throwing ruckus and causing troubles. Yeah he threw tantrums, but why tho.
He has anger issue, doesn't know how to deal with it. Being around him is like walking on eggshells. Especially when he's drunk.
I also got the vibe he doesn't like being touch carelessly and only have a few selection of people who could touch him.
Cale find comfort in spending money in luxury stuff. That's the only thing he knew about growing up and thus a very luxurious lifestyle.
Idk I need to let this all out
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inkstaindusk · 2 years
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When I put everything I know about OG Cale together he becomes more and more like a classic villainous daughter which I already knew but I only just realized the extent of it while examining his relationship with Deruth
Like it often turns out that the fathers of villainous daughters were neglectful because they thought that was the best way to give their daughters freedom but instead they only exacerbated the problem and that is exactly what happened to Cale
This doesn’t really mean anything I’m just faint thinking about villainous daughter og Cale
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