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robotslenderman · 3 years

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Ewww getting big privileged homophobe vibes from you. Blocking now.

Thank God.

I doubt you'll ever read this, but just in case hate-reading is your thing - I don't know why you bothered with anon. You're obviously not a follower because I talk about how queer I am here ALL THE TIME. I saw many queerphobes on that queer post, and even visited a few of their blogs. (Most of them were TERFs, except one - you, who claimed to be a trans dude. Maybe you are! Maybe you're not a TERF posing as a trans dude and you really are okay with being part of a movement absolutely dominated by TERFs!)

But there was only one that I left a comment on. You'd posted about how queer people are so horrible to call ourselves queer. Like the anthropomorphic personification of class and tact that I am, I trolled you by asking if my queer presence made you uncomfortable.

Clearly, it did. :)

So go ahead. Call me the first mean name that comes to your head, as if it bothered me what a random totally-not-anon thinks I am. I'm totally fine with queerphobes thinking my existence is homophobic, because the only way they'd understand otherwise is if I pretended I wasn't queer. My alleged homophobia is latched on to my identity as a queer person. The only way you would not accuse me of being homophobic is if I stopped calling myself queer.

So you use my very identity as a weapon against me. I am queer, and I am attached to not being a homophobe. You know that queer people do not want to be perceived as something they hate completely by anyone, strangers included, especially on a website where people harass first and listen later (if at all). So you hold us hostage - deny our queerness, and you'll drop your weapon. You'll drop the word "homophobic" and stop pointing it at me.

I'm not gonna cave to this.

Nor am I going to write an outraged essay about how I'm not homophobic. You know perfectly fucking well that not a SINGLE queer person is straight. You know perfectly fucking well that most queer people are same sex attracted or attracted to enbies. You know perfectly fucking well that queer people have accepted that part of us and aren't dealing with internalised homophobia or inflicting it on other people because we ACKNOWLEDGE our queerness and you can see this, otherwise you wouldn't be getting mad about it. In a homophobic society everyone has a degree of it, but by being what we are we have less of it than the great majority.

You know this perfectly well. Don't fucking pretend otherwise, I would have to believe that you are well and truly and sincerely STUPID to think for one second that you think I'm a straight person or a closeted gay person who's lashing out with malicious homophobia. Real homophobia, not "this person is part of a minority I am bigoted against, so I will claim they are inherently homophobic unless they get back in the closet or categorise themself in a way that allows me to fine tune my bigotry appropriately."

Because let's be real. Queer hasn't been used as a slur in decades and was reclaimed before I was even born. "Gay" was the slur of the time when I was growing up, but people like you never had a problem with that. Why? Because gay is clear cut and well defined. The problem people like you have with queers like me - the REAL problem, not the faux outraged you have made up about my label - is that queer means I have declined your insistence to more accurately categorise myself.

I mean, how else would you know specifically how to treat me? I could be bi and you might hate bi people, but if I'm a gay queer you don't want to aim the wrong type of bigotry at me by mistake - not because you care about gay people (you don't, because many gay people are also queer), but because you don't want to make yourself look silly by aiming the wrong type of bigotry at me. I could be queer because I'm an enby, and maybe you're truescum that would despise me for it, but you don't KNOW whether or not I'm an enby and that drives you mad! You don't want to risk alienating people who care about you by shitting on someone they might not agree is an acceptable target, so you target every queer and claim it's about a word when really, many queer people seek refugee under that term to hide from people like you, and you don't like that we can hide from you, so you try to strip our shelter away from us.

(And let's be honest. You probably don't even actually hate us. You're probably just afraid. Afraid of some identity you don't really understand because you've never taken the time to get to know us, or afraid that society will accept you less if we're "competing" for acceptance and so take some of the spotlight... I won't shit on you for fear, anon. We are all afraid of something. But I absolutely have a problem with how you're choosing to knowingly hurt people to cope with it. You called me "homophobe" to hurt me. There was no other way to possibly interpret the context of what you were saying. You meant to do this.)

So take away queer. Take away the shelter of queer. Force every queer person to divulge, upfront, who they are that makes them friends with queer. Force them out of the closet and pretend THAT'S not homophobic.

Send the gay queers back to the L and G of LGBT, let the TERFs flush out the trans people who are queer because they're trans* and shoo them away from LGBTQ spaces. Or maybe you really are trans, but you want to kick out straight trans people, or enbies, or pan people, or bi people, or ace people, or, one of the many populations that make up the true queer community.

* Not all trans people are queer, but many are BECAUSE they're trans. I would say "many are queer because they identify as queer" because that makes it sound like queerness isn't an inherent part of who we are and gives people like you ammo I have no interest in supplying you with. "Aha! So you CHOOSE to be a slur!" I just know you'd completely ignore everything I said to the contrary and say that.

Yes. The true queer community.

We've told you again and again that we're not calling you queer. We've told you again and again, if you're not queer, you're not part of the queer community. You're LGBT+, not queer. I'm not part of the LGBT+ community, I'm part of the queer community.

The queer community is not the true community of people who aren't straight and cis, that's not what I'm saying. We're not any more or less LGBT+ than you. I'm not invalidating the identities of people who aren't straight and/or cis, because they are who they are, and you don't need to be queer to be LGBT+. But we are the true queer community in that we are queer, and people who are LGBT+ but are not queer are not queer. Only queer people are queer.

("But people use queer community as an umbrella term to mean people who aren't queer, but are still LGBT+!" Buddy, if I have to deal with being called LGBT all the time even though it's not true, while having the people who use LGBT obviously mean me too because I'm not straight, then you can live with it too. That's mostly straights doing that, in which case you have no reason to get mad at US, or people who are are making something for a straight audience or a questioning audience, in which case they're making it accessible because not everyone knows the nuance of queer and LGBTALPHABETSOUP discourse. Or even - and I know this thought is incomprehensible to you, as the centre of the universe - it's actually referring to queer people and queer people only, not LGBT+ who aren't queer. Actually, I love that idea! Queer history is now history of queer people, no non-queer LGBT+ allowed :D)

I've never felt LGBT+ even when I thought I was one of the main four letters. But I've always felt queer, even as my understanding of my specific brand of queerness changed. Queer is an umbrella term that is opt in, that covers any and all LGBT+ people who know they are queer too, who know they're one of us, or who simply choose to call themselves queer for whatever fucking reason they want. Some of us are intrinsically queer, some choose to be queer because of the inclusiveness or relative opacity of the term, and you don't know which one a queer person is unless you have earned our trust enough for us to tell you.

And people like you fucking hate that.

So you know what?

I'm totally fine with you calling me a homophobe because the people who actually know more about me than the few sentences I've given you know that that's a joke, and their good opinion matters more to me than yours.

I'm totally fine with you calling me a homophobe because because it means I've won. I've gotten under your skin, just as your bigotry got right under mine. You're furious you can't categorise me. You're pissed off that I could be one of the LGBT+ people you actively dislike and want out of the LGBT+ community, but are finding a hell of a lot harder to flush out of the queer community because we all look the same at first glance and refuse to give you information you feel entitled to. Because it's easy to force people out of the closet in the LGBT+ community, but much fucking harder in a meritocracy like the queer community. To get into the LGBT+ community, you have to tell them which one you are. Queer? No questions asked, cause you already told us all we needed to know! Welcome home!

But let's say this is all a strawman.

That you really are some well meaning person who has nothing against the more obscure queer identities and that you really do just have a problem with the word. That you truly do think that queer people, the great majority of which experience same sex attraction, are... somehow... homophobic just for using the word despite their advocacy against homophobia and total acceptance of that aspect of themselves and others. That our fight for marriage equality and employment and housing protections and human rights is rendered COMPLETELY AND UTTERLY IRRELEVANT because we used a word that Boomers and even some of gen X hurled at each other because a guy was a little bit girly, or a girl refused to grow her hair long, or because men were scared that a man would treat them the way they treated women. (Because queer as an archaic slur, ultimately, comes from misogyny as much as homophobia.)

Let's say you really do mean well and really do know people who were called queers instead of fags, or you really did grow up hearing "that is so queer" to describe things people didn't like, or you really did have "queer" hurled at you by straight people as if there was something wrong with you for not being cis and straight.

(Notice something, there? You probably haven't actually experienced any of that, nor anyone you know. This wank about who I am as a queer person - it's always aimed at us. Never the straights that used it against us. Nobody uses the word queer except queer people any more, I am 99% certain that you don't know ANYBODY who has had it thrown at them AS a slur, so that means that the only people you can target on your crusade are... gender and sexual minorities. Not cis/straight people. Because they're not calling us queers and haven't in decades.

That means you are knowingly targeting minorities over this EXCLUSIVELY, I am completely fucking certain..

... but I'M the homophobe?)

In which case all I can say is: I hope that the well-meaningness that's made you put this hateful thing into my inbox, that's made you say such hateful things to a minority because of their identity (there's a word for treating people differently because they're a minority, especially hostile treatment..), will outshine the hatefulness of what you're saying and lead you to a better way to express your desire to protect people.

If you truly are coming from a misplaced belief that we're somehow deprecating ourselves by being queer, and not a desire to force us out of the closet or to run off any gender or sexual minority, then I apologise for my hostility, acknowledge that learning takes time (and patience that I am unable to give, for I am tired of bad actors pretending they're not and cannot do it), and wish you the best in learning to be inclusive and loving so we can count you one day, at least, as a friend of us queer folk. Maybe one day we'll even welcome you as one of us. I'd love to do that more than I'd like to deal with THIS crap. I can't imagine me going off on you will have helped at all, but from in my experience people who want to protect gender and sexual minorities protect them. They don't target them. That's why I am writing this post under the assumption that you wrote this because you have bad intentions towards me as a queer person, and not out of a well meaning desire to protect anyone you think I've somehow hurt by being me.

In which case? Get fucked.

#long post #queer #queer queer queer #you know how I just said that I often come across as aggressive without intending to?#Disregard that this post is 100% aggressively intended #do not pick on my fellow queer folk or I will Go Off on you #also I don't get using privileged as an insult #that's like insulting me by calling me white #it's a descriptor #some people are privileged #I am privileged in some ways and not so in others #my queerness tho? definitely not

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aahsoka · 4 years

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So having been on tiktok for a bit I wanna talk a little about it.

What I like

It’s actually rather entertaining to scroll through up to 30 second videos one after the other. Sometimes the humor falls flat or it’s not your taste, but the algorithim is quite good at recommending the kind of content you will like.

I joined right when there was a big trend going around about sharing your culture, and soon after a Blackout trend where non-Black creators stopped posting for a day & spread/supported videos by Black creators. So I ended up with a fairly diverse fyp or “for you page”. It also quickly gathered that I am bisexual, so I get plenty of lgbt+ content. There’s some art mixed in there, some cosplay, some historical costuming/seamstresses, lots of avatar jokes lately, musical theatre content, fashion, girls in bikinis on rollerskates (in outer space), commentary on political issues, body positivity, all the kinds of stuff I like. To get a feed that caters to your interests you just have to watch & like videos you’re interested in & eventually it gets a feel for what you’ll watch and what you won’t.

Theres a trend where people say which ‘side’ of tiktok they’re on and I get ‘science side of tumblr’ flashbacks but I’ve mostly avoided the “straight” and conservative sides of tiktok. I would be considered a part of “woke”, “alt” (as in alternative) and lgbt+ tiktok (there are separate ones for each letter of the acronym). Possibly also “theatre” and “cosplay” tiktok. These categories are nebulous and you’re usually part of multiple communities; its just as arbitray as ‘science side of tumblr’ was.

The format reminds me of snapchat a little, and I love to talk to myself on video & post dumb thirst traps for my friends (none of which I’m attracted to so idk what my goal is there) and make stupid jokes. So this app is kinda perfect for my attention seeking side & hyperactive tendencies. Its very easy to consume on a short attention span, though not as easy as vine was.

Being in quarantine, its a way for a lot of people to engage in hobbies that involve community. Cosplay is pretty popular, as its a fun way to show off a costume & dress up & have fun without having to attend a convention. I enjoy the way lip synced audios can be used to emulate the character someone is dressed as; that’s something you couldn’t really do unless you were really good at impressions. Its a nice succinct way to show the process of creating a cosplay as well.

Those who enjoy theatre, but cannot perform in shows at this time, are able to create mini-monologues & sketches as well as sing parts of their favorite songs. Its an avenue through which to perform without putting anyone at risk of the virus. It’s also an easy way to show off your talents without having to go through the audition process & actually get cast in a show as a prominent enough role that someone will notice it.

It’s a convenient format for discourse and educational videos. Nice, short, easily digestible tidbits that stay in your mind. This extremely catchy song, for example: “Black neighborhoods are overpoliced, so of course they have higher rates of crime, and white perpetrators are undercharged, so of course they have lower rates of crime. And all of those stupid stats you keep using are operating off a small sample size. So, shut up, shut up, shut up, shut up”.

As well as other videos where people take the time to explain historical events, satirize racist arguments to demonstrate why they are wrong, talk about prevalent tropes in movies, teach a few signs in ASL, share facts about their culture, etc, etc. I have found there are quite a lot of people there from unique and fairly unknown cultures and backgrounds- and this is a place where they’re able to share their culture & existence with people all over the world. There are a thousand different viewpoints. Their videos are doing far more for diverse representation than any other platform, I’d argue, as everyone is extremely visible on the app. (‘Their’ as in the creators, not the app itself).

I also have enjoyed coming across new artists on the app. It’s really fun to watch the process they go through, as most art videos deal with the whole creation of a piece. It’s inspiring. I have also come across a painter who’s work I’m in love with, and a woman who makes and sells the CUTEST ceramic mugs, and I need to purchase some stuff from them both.

Now onto the bad:

Unfortunately, the app doesn’t have much in the way of a filtering or warning system. I talked about that tiktok of the kids coming across human remains? That was just on people’s fyp. Just popped up. No warning. No reason for it to still be up. Traumatizing.

You can click on a video and say ‘not interested’ (I do this to literally every video I get where some girl is thirsting after kylo ren 🤮..... like I want the star wars videos just not THOSE videos). However, it doesn’t seem to know exactly why you weren’t interested, because I still get those videos from time to time. There’s no content filter where I can blacklist the kylo ren or any other hashtag.

There’s some very shitty content. There are racist conservatives. Misogynistic teen white boys. Really weird thirst traps. Videos where people lip sync to something with a straight face and tag it with #acting. Harmful body image trends. I thankfully stay very clear of this, but this kind of content makes me worry for the minors on the app. The one’s who don’t have enough of a concept of self yet to realize they don’t need to be able to do the newest pointless beauty trend to be beautiful, to realize it’s ok for them to be gay, to realize how predatory some adults can be, etc etc.

It is extremely easy to come across minors on the app who don’t look like teens. One time I went to a girl’s page and it said she was FIFTEEN. I’m usually good at guessing ages but something about this app messes that up. I wish there was a way to separate people under 18 and adults. Where I don’t have minor’s thirst traps popping up on my fyp. Where pedophiles don’t get a chance to curate that fyp intentionally. If anyone reading this has kids, I highly recommend they make their tiktok private or only viewable to friends.

Just like any site, there are plenty of bigots. Lots of racist comments. Plenty of transphobia. Any hatred you’ve seen elsewhere, of course it exists on tiktok. I have actually zero clue if you can report people & if it works. Most people seem to send a video commentary to their haters or duet a video of a racist pointing out their racism. I’ve heard of creators blocking people, however. I remember a tiktok of a Black woman who’s video somehow went fairly viral in Poland and now she gets a lot of racist comments from this large group of random racisf Polish followers she has and its extremely time consuming to block them all, as there’s no mass block feature.

The rumors about what works with the algorithm and doesn’t abound. I’ve heard well lit videos get more views. Many people suspect they have been shadowbanned for speaking out about current events. TikTok will remove the audio from videos sometimes if they deem it controversial enough. Most of us know they were criticized recently for intentionally keeping Black creator’s videos from being seen (a catalyst for the Blackout, actually). Or you may also recall when it was criticized for widely removing lgbt+ content. Those creators are fighting to be seen the same amount as straight cis white creators are allowed to be seen with no effort.

The effects some trends could have on teen girls. So many of them are already so uncomfortable in their own skin simply because of societal standards, but the absolutely meaningless challenges people come up with on tiktok make it so much worse. One trend was based around whether your finger touched your lips when you put it in your nose. Or if you could get your clasped hands around the back of your legs and over your butt (if they get passed, you have a flat ass, if they get stuck, its big). These completely arbitrary signifiers of the things you need to have in order to be pretty, are far more ridiculous that anything I have seen yet in my life. I worry about little girls taking these ideas to heart. There is a very kind body positive community on the app & I hope more people can find that.

There’s also that thing where they steal your data. Like most apps. But apparently they got a lot more invasive than usual, so I would look into it before making an account; if you want to do that.

I think the apps users can be great & its a pretty intuitive set up. It certainly deserves its popularity solely as a creative form of social media. That being said, its owners are so so insidious & do the worst things. Just like all other social media, its controlled by the worst kind of people. Who can never figure out how to effectively get rid of nazis or keep kids safe from adult content.

These are my less serious gripes with the app:

1) Lip syncing

When people lip sync and don’t do any kind of skit, joke, etc, just look as if they’re saying what someone else said; I hate that. I have to go back and find the original tiktok so I can like it instead. You literally did nothing interesting by ripping off someones audio and moving your lips along to it. So many people on this app are creative and so many others lack any semblance of creativity.

Also people are too easily impressed by lip syncing to kinda-fast songs. I lip synced to like....10 seconds of the devil went down to georgia and two people praised my lip syncing abilities. Like, I can also sing and talk fast, out loud, isn’t that more impressive? more skillful? The fiddle playing in that song is impressive, not the fact I can lip sync ‘the devil went down to georgia, he was lookin for a soul to steal, he was in a bind, cause he was way behind.’ Have you ever seen someone play Johnny’s fiddle solo????? It’s insane!!!

Rather than see someone lip sync to the verse in Stressed Out 2x faster than normal (which is, extremely simple and the song was overplayed and ingrained into our collective consciousness) and go WOW what about someone.....doing the verse out loud. You can litterally just mouth random words and look like you’re saying the right ones. It’s driving me crazy lmao. I’m set to become a God of tiktok because I have a repertoire of fast songs and rap verses memorized. It’s not even an uncommon skill to speak or sing quickly, people literally make rap music for a living! Listen to it maybe.

2) “Acting”

I am begging you to stop making me sit through those horrible POVs. I cannot take another girl not quite fake crying towards the camera as she lip syncs the words from a song that apply to the random situation she decided she was in. I cannot take another boy who thinks its sexy to stare into a camera and smirk in every single situation he creates.

Back to lip syncing, making facial expressions along to words isn’t really acting. Try saying the words out loud perhaps? The inflection you use with your lines is a pretty big part of acting. Like you can lip sync all you want, just stop tagging it with #acting.

3) Comedic timing, or lack thereof

You don’t need the entire intro to sit there looking at the camera waiting until the first line starts and you can lip sync to the part that’s the joke. You could cut off at least 15 seconds. Brevity is the soul of wit.

When your joke involves both reading text on screen and listening to the song for the punchline, if it isn’t done prefectly, its so difficult to follow. I can’t read a paragraph in 5 seconds. Paraphrase.

4) self deprecating artist audio

the audio thats like ‘this wont get views’ ‘I suck’ ‘you probably won’t see this anyway’ LOVE YOURSELF

It sucks when people dont enagage with your art but it sucks worse when your value in yourself and you art is based solely on receiving that validation. Please find a healthy medium.

Also you’re asking for pity, and you don’t want that. You want people who genuinely love your art for what it is.

5) editing videos is really hard how do you make such cool & smooth transitions????

please help me I don’t understand

Finally

here’s my account if you’re interested

#this long ass opinion article no one asked for #tiktok #social media #jordan talks #long post /

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420paki · 5 years

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i literally dont know anything about the beatles appart from hearing that john lennon was awful (homophobic,abusive,racist ableist u name it) but seeing little proof to any of the claims and since it seems u are a sort of beatles encyclopedia do u know if any of that is true? feel free to ignore this if u dont wanna bother with more of this discourse lmao

hi! i appreciate your asking. i used to have a comprehensive post explaining this shit but i’m not sure where it is, and i want to expand on it anyway. i’m just gonna go through all the buzzwords listed here, explain the foundations of the claim, and then decide if, in my opinion, they have any merit to them. i cant believe im answering this instead of doing my essay

homophobic: okay, this one mostly comes from an infamous incident at paul mccartney’s birthday party in 1963 where john, in a drunken rage, beat up DJ bob wooler to an absolute pulp after wooler (who was a gay man himself) teased him for having gone on vacation with the beatles’ gay manager, brian epstein. wooler insinuated that lennon must also be gay, and john was infuriated at this accusation. he would swear off violence completely following and was deeply ashamed of it, though of course, that doesn’t make it un-horrible and bad.

this part’s up for debate: i honestly think that in part, this is a stereotypical case of a guy dealing with same sex attraction, at least to a degree. his wife, yoko ono, stated in an interview that john wished he could’ve indulged in a relationship with a man. and the way he talks about his relationship with epstein is… gay imo lol. john seemed to have fairly progressive views on homosexuality in the years following this. by the time he became a radical leftist in the early 70s, he was openly pro LGBT.

racist: i suppose this one comes from woman is the n*gg*r of the world? yeah… that song is, um… a choice? first and foremost, it was composed by yoko ono. john was hesitant to record it and contacted friend bobby seale of the new york city chapter of the black panther party (which, as a side note, he was an ardent supporter of). bobby said it was a good idea and to go forward with it. it is in fact supposed to be a feminist song, but at the end of the day it uses a terrible slur, compares two separate forms of oppression, and doesn’t take into account the existence of black women. so… bad!

ableist: i can’t even argue with this one. yeah. yeah he was.

abuser: this one i saved for last because it is definitely the most pervasive one. there are a few things that feed into it.

1. the publishing of john lennon: the life by philip norman. i should say first of all that philip norman is a GARBAGE little man. all of his books, not just the ones about john, are full of lies and should be taken with a grain of salt. he’s the one who really cemented in place all of this shit about john, and accused him of being a wife beater, which simply isn’t true. john hit his first wife, cynthia lennon, once when he was 18. that itself is horrible and disgusting. but he promised her he would never do it again, and he never did. for the rest of his life, john never hit another woman. both yoko and cynthia confirm that norman is a liar. just as an example of his lies, in his book, he says that john once struck yoko and she hit her head on a wood burning stove at their home at the dakota. but the dakota is a mid century apartment building in the heart of manhattan and definitely did not contain a wood burning stove. so…. yeah. untrue.

2. john himself. john says that the beatles’ song “it’s getting better” is a biographical song. it’s essentially a song about a guy that used to be negative and beat his women, but stopped and is better now. honestly, i think that’s just him being stupid. he was really big into the peace movement in the late 60s, and i think he wanted to push the narrative that anyone can become peaceful. so he used himself as an example and exaggerated a lot, which he did often.

3. his relationship with his first son, julian. john was a bad father to julian. i can’t argue with that. there’s a lot of things that support this reasoning, but for the most part, what i can tell you is that i don’t classify it as abusive, more so negligent and childish on john’s behalf.

that was long, sorry lol… if that leaves you with any questions please let me know!

#beatle discourse

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chaotic-dummy · 5 years

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Ace discourse

disclaimer: I blocked out usernames because this isn’t a callout post, I am ace, I do know the fuck im talking about. And please if anyone wants to have a sensible talk about this, dm me.

So me decided to get to the bottom of ace discourse, why the fuck does everyone hate ace ppl. Well im about to tell you and I did research. Mostly I searched ‘ace discourse’ on tumblr and just looked. And so what I found was kinda weird and I think some ppl have little to no brain cells.

So first thing I found was this:

Cus apparently being ace and being kinky are the same level of queer, none. Idfk what kinky peeps have to do with this, don’t drag them into our shitty discourse. It’s not ‘approaching sex in on unconventional way’, we don’t fucking approach sex. Its. Not. That. Hard. So us wanting to be included in lgbt+ isn’t us hating on gay sex or saying its strange, it just means that we here, we queer too.

Also little uh, vocab lesson before I continue, queer was a slur and it pretty much meant weird, or odd. It meant that far before ppl turned it into an gay slur. Y’all probs know that but just had to say it.

Ok so I scrolled more, same person at it again.

So what? Pan and nonbianary ppl don’t exist in lgbt+. +!!!!!! There’s a plus my dude and you’ve been missing it

The plot thickens

First off, coming out as ace in general is hard, because no one seems to thinks it’s real and understand what it is, even if its soooooo simple. And maybe yeah ppl wanna feel special, so what? You never wanted to feel special? Also as someone who is ace and also a girl who likes girls, it would be just as important to come out as ace, as it is coming out as gay. So what if it isn’t as bad of consequences? Is it so bad we want to tell ppl things even when we don’t get to be hurt because of it? Really?

Ok so first of cishet means cisgender heterosexual…ok so being ace already gets rid of the het. Yeah some aces are hetero romantic, but what about aro/aces, the legit are not hetero at all? Like what then? Not liking the word queer don’t make you a terf, being a transphobic bitch makes you a terf, these two things do NOT mean the same thing. Also pda isn’t great weather ppl are straight gay lesbian…. But aces deal with pda and idk about everyone but if some gays wanna hold hands or pda go the fuck ahead, it hurts no one. Since when did aces throw a fit over your pda? When????? Also an ace community would be just cake puns and more ace puns and nothing actually productive let’s be real.

Also I id as queer ace because reasons so yeet.

Also on the whole cishet aces topic.

No comment other than exclusionists pls read how stupid some of you sound.

The blue on the purple says ‘children cannot be asexual’

Allosexual is just something made up that means not ace, no one should identify as it and it isn’t meant to be harmful, or meant to make other sexualities inherently sexual. It was just meant as kinda just so there was a word for not ace. That’s all. It wasn’t meant to hurt queer kids.

Oh first of all this was the most hypocritical thing I’ve seen yet today. And that’s saying something.

Also aces have kinda always just kinda bunched with the lgbt+ and we were there when you founded the shit don’t kick us out now.

Ace exclusionists are really so far up their own asses they think everyone who is ace is cishet and doesn’t deserve to be lgbt+.

This ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ is bullshit.

There are idiots across all communities, even ace.

Ok just because ace ppl where not oppressed as other lgbt+ identities don’t make us less queer. This isn’t an oppression measuring competition. And hell, we get more hate from tumblr than actual oppressors. But like there is some shit that’s happened to ace ppl because ppl suck and don’t like ace ppl. I’m not talking about some random idiot excluding us from queer posts and tumblr, but ppl harassing us and telling us that we’re confused, or haven’t found the right person and so on. Or, and I know lesbians know this line, guys thinking their hot enough to “fix us”. These are problems queer ppl face, we do too. No, we weren’t arrested, or killed, or antagonized. But that’s because we never really came out, we barely existed to anyone but ourselves.

And this. This seems to be a big issue, but basically ace means not being sexually attracted to anyone, it means that you don’t look at a hot person and thing ‘damn id tap dat’ or whatever. Some aces are sex repulsed, and some aren’t necessarily repulsed but they definitely don’t want it. But some aces honestly don’t give a fuck about sex, couldn’t care less, they don’t hate it, they don’t want it and won’t like, go looking to bang, but if someone they love wants to, meh sure why not. That’s it, it shouldn’t bother ppl because YOU ARENT THE ONE HAVING THE SEX ANYWAYS WHAT DOES IT MATTER.

This kinda just needed to be said so uh, ye.

And here, at the center of it all is the reality of ace discourse.

#ace discourse #why tf cant yall be nice #this took 2 hours #it was actually painful to go through this tag tho

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chikorito · 5 years

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A little discussion got me thinking

A had a facebook discourse some time ago with some people, mostly about the Chechenya chapter in the new Vampire the Masquerade book, and all the trouble it had like the Chechenya incidents with torture is a plan from vampires AKA not real, how the authorities take notice and search for the head of the culprit anyway and the original autor tryied to make people notice the problem and the edition fucked it up and how anti-SJW were like “the pussies are censuring us with the politics”, I read it and thought it wasn’t so big of a deal to remove the chapter and could have been corrected, but I guess the damage is done and WW didn’t wanted to lost their clients on Russia.

The thing is, I discussed this topic with friends and random people on a facebook group and I fought with stupid anti-SJW saying that stuff about how people are inserting politics into their games, with examples like Ghostbusters, Doctor Who, Mass Effect, I’’ve seen reviews about those but I don’t follow those franchises, any seems dead to me, also to support their view some guy send me a video about a right-wing gamer dude with all the back-up of a poll about “Go woke, get broke”. I recently watched a video about that topic and how Zelda incorporates a more progressive agenda subtly, I guess the problem with some american productions about that is being too “in your face” with the topics they want to incorporate and that makes people awkward, I think nobody want to change their world view and be wrong, the same with the issue about Gillete recently.

But I think you can’t expect the world to be in a stasis of ideals, the status quo is repressive with a lot of groups, and things are changing always, some decades ago a strong woman or a couple of different color were banned, you can’t expect people not getting representation or incorporate new ideas because some people don’t like it, is like taking the right to artists to incorporate ideas in their work, like disparage the power of fiction, how art shapes reality and how little this kind of people notice that stuff they enjoy shapes their way of thinking, nobody is incorruptable to incorporate new ideas or solidify some, those people I discussed with love that Goblin Slayer is so edgy with their rape, I guess you’re in your right to like what you want but it’s not just left politics that is tried to be incorporated in your brain with stuff like Steven Universe, you can’t think anything is a-politic, even Nintendo understood that recently, with LGBT in Fire Emblem, even Pokémon incorporates little bits of politics, and in Vampire the Msquerade is not just a book that you can just close if you don’t like the topics, it’s a manual for a game, for interactions with human beings, you can’t just negate the existance of people you’re going to play with, also WoD as been always a refuge for outcast people, it’s not SJW that want stuff changed.

I didn’t give the example, but in my country there was this movie An Extraordinary woman, about a transgender woman that lost her pertner and had to deal with the rejection of society, public services and family, all in the middle of discussion about that in my country, but surprisly that movie won in the Oscars in Best Foreign Language Film, bringing to my country a great pride and the second Oscar, before in Best Animated short, then the movie was shown in public television, the topic of transgender is the center of the movie and was treated very gently and with respect, I think the actress wasn’t that good but I guess that is less notorious to a foreign language watcher, and that movie really moved forward the law that enables people to change their gender legally with the support of people, like I didn’t just happen but really shaped the people’s view on the topic, like how can you not value the power of media, how many people have dreamed about technology and the future with Back to the Future and Star Wars, it mades me really mad people can’t value that, like being never rejected or having the desire the express stuff in art form,

I told this dude that he better incorporate this concepts “for their own good” with was answered with a “why should I bend the knee to this SJW-agenda” still not undertanding that being so stuborn about that just hurt others possibly new and cared, you never know wich repressive point of view you support is making the world a heavier place to people you cared or even yourself, finally this dude answer that not everything politic with a muppet song to wich I responded that the Muppets have been greatly influential in USA media incorporating topics to children in family ambient, like divorce or autism and send him back a song I loved about learning to love oneself and though it was about racism, that was the end of that deep discourse XD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4ZxxHbJGbY

#me #salty rant

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