#also gwendolen mentions philip as the only other human to visit the demon realm but no mention to his brother is kind of weird?

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honestly, im just trying to figure out who flapjack actually belongs to. i know its been accepted by now that he must have belonged to wittebro for him to partner up with Hunter (resembles him, lineage, etc.), but what about wittebro’s wife?

like, if the bird palisman tradition with the clawthornes went generations before wittebro married in, it would make sense for his wife to have a bird palisman first when they meet. so if that palisman happens to be flapjack, and spent a lot of time with wittebro, he would know his name and Hunter’s resemblance to him.

Also because from what I know, it seems that Dell is from the Clawthorne clan based on what he says about their family being really good at carving. but at the same time, Gwendolyn has a hawk palisman and I’m not sure if it would have been a coincidence for her to have a bird palisman by the time they marry, or if this is just a small inconsistency, idk.

on the OTHER hand, i also like the idea of flapjack being carved by wittebro (assuming he can carve since he made phillip's mask). Dell mentioned carving runs in their family, and if wittebro had something to do with it, it makes sense. AND, all the bird palismen we've seen so far with the Clawthornes usually resemble real birds from the human realm, not particularly leaning to the monsters in the demon realm (Dell and Hunter's Cardinals, Gwen's Eagle, Raven and Owl for Lilith and Eda), so I figured this could be like combining two things from the demon and human realms, palismen in the shape of normal birds? also, it would set up a good plot point for how wittebro gets accustomed to the boiling isles and their customs, and juxtaposes with Belos’ attempts to eradicate it.

so yeah. just my thoughts, since we dont really see any solid confirmation of Flapjack's relationship with wittebro from Belos' memories (especially since its from Belos' POV, so maybe wittebro was hiding it from his brother that much 😬).

I also like the idea of Luz having a bat palisman from a myth I remember reading. I know the message is different, but I kept thinking like, oh yeah bats can fly but theyre not birds, just like how luz wants to be a witch but is still human, or how shes an honorary clawthorne? just based on the bird palisman pattern, but idk.

#right #this is just word vomit #like the grimwalker theory wasnt even as dark dark as i originally thought it would be sacrificing hunter and shit #but nah. its just belos telling him whatever and secretly being ready to dispose of him and put another baby in the easy bake oven at a #moment's notice. okay. #the fact that he still needs to clone wittebro too is so... why him specifically? hes the clone of a brother you killed (multiple times) #i dont know why he wants to get one but its fuckin disgusting #i think about the clawthornes a normal amount. but honestly it would be sweet if we saw more stuff abt wittebro and that clawthorne girl #also gwendolen mentions philip as the only other human to visit the demon realm but no mention to his brother is kind of weird? #ive been thinking of this theory for a while. i just think it would be neat if flapjack is a cardinal (which weve never seen in the demon #realm) and maybe WB's wife surprised him with it?? like a 'congrats youre a clawthorne now!' kind of thing #that would be cute #feel free to add on!!!! #toh #the owl house #toh 2b #toh 2b spoilers #the owl house season 2 #the owl house spoilers #toh spoilers #hollow mind #hollow mind spoilers #emperor belos #the owl house theory #toh flapjack #wittebro #txt #OHHH AND WHAT IF FLAPJACK GOT HIS SCARS BC WITTEBRO SHOWED HIM TO BELOS. OHH NOOOOO