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nitrosplicer · 4 years

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re: sexuality in pride - i feel like there's a lot of value in creating a space for LGBT youth to be in without being exposed to pornographic imagery (nudity is ok, but not public sex acts). there's other events and venues where those actions can take place, whereas there are not many LGBT spaces for minors under 18 / 21. pride is such a great opportunity for diff gens to come together! maybe we should set up a kid or adult section of pride? can you share your thoughts? thx, be safe!

hey, thanks for sending this! I’m going to respond in good faith, and give each of your points equal care.

i feel like there's a lot of value in creating a space for LGBT youth to be in without being exposed to pornographic imagery (nudity is ok, but not public sex acts).

First of all, I feel like you’re saying public sex acts happen at Pride. I’m wondering how you’re defining public sex acts, because some people would define wearing a collar, a harness, a fursuit as a public sex act. Having attended multiple Prides now, I would not count any of those things as public sex acts.

Would you consider someone sucking a dick-shaped lollipop as a public sex act, for instance? Someone twerking on the street, someone with breasts going shirtless, or someone wearing short-shorts? For the record, I have seen people define these things as “public sex acts,” hence my specificity.

You also use the term “pornographic imagery,” which is a remarkably broad term, and is quite subjective in practice. For instance, in the Supreme Court case Jacobellis v. Ohio, 378 U.S. 184 (1964), Justice Potter Stewart argued that the Constitution protected all obscenity except "hard-core pornography" which he refused to define, saying: "I shall not today attempt further to define the kinds of material I understand to be embraced within that shorthand description; and perhaps I could never succeed in intelligibly doing so. But I know it when I see it, and the motion picture involved in this case is not that." Some people have argued that a pair of lips on an advertisement fall within the category of “pornographic imagery”, while others may disagree.

For these reasons, I’m targeting your use of the term “pornographic imagery” not to dissemble, but to explain why I can’t really address this part of your ask. In addressing this ask, I’m going to assume you mean a photograph of exposed genitalia.

Similarly, I’m interpreting public sex acts as “any act where someone’s physical genitalia is exposed and is being used.” Given that this is my interpretation of your ask, you seem to be suggesting that public sex acts and photographs of exposed genitalia are carte blanche on the street during a Pride parade. I’m not trying to be demeaning here, but I’m serious when I I would have to ask - what prides have you attended where people were in fact, having sex in public or waving photographs of genitals? Pride parades do not feature public sex acts of the type I describe. In fact, a fair few of the Prides I’ve visited have prohibitions on what can or cannot be worn.

there's other events and venues where those actions can take place, whereas there are not many LGBT spaces for minors under 18 / 21. pride is such a great opportunity for diff gens to come together! maybe we should set up a kid or adult section of pride?

There are quite a few LGBT spaces for minors, including GSAs! I agree regarding your point that Pride can be a good places for different generations of LGBT people to meet one another.

However, when you say “there’s other events and venues where those actions can take place,” I’m again interpreting this part of your ask as you saying that “public sex acts” occur all the time during Pride, and you seem worried that these acts are happening in front of under 18s.

As I mentioned before, these events don’t seem to be happening. In fact, I’ve been to Prides where there was a physical boundary separating areas based on age- but it was because in one area, people were walking around with alcohol, not based on “public sex acts”

I find it interesting that this sort of rhetoric circulates regarding Pride, but not summer festivals such as Burning Man. I’m wondering why you’re mentioning this about Pride specifically, because Pride is fairly family-friendly, so I’m mystified why you make it your sticking point. You may have seen images of Folsom Street Fair being circulated as “Pride”, but that’s a separate public sex festival, which, I feel as though I have to state, doesn’t allow those under 18.

What I find so disturbing about this rhetoric circulating is because of the way in which old rhetorics surrounding homophobia/transphobia are brought along with them, specifically the fear that gay or trans people will corrupt vulnerable youth. This assumption is rooted in homophobic and transphobic beliefs.

tldr: you seem to assume Pride is full of people waving their genitals around like pollinating plants, this is simply not the case

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sanoiro · 6 years

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Lucifer 3x25 - Boo Normal - Spoilers and Speculation.

Warning! There is always a possibility that certain scenes might have been mixed up under their non-respective episodes.

Boo Normal 3x21 script/3x25 airing

Written By: Jen Graham Imada

Directed By: Lisa Demaine

Jen Graham Imada has written the episodes:

2x21/3x07 - Off The Record

3x15 - High School Poppycock (With Chris Rafferty)

Press Release: As Lucifer and the team investigate the murder of a child psychiatrist, Ella thinks about a big childhood secret that she’s been hiding.

Guest Cast: Charlyne Yi as Ray-Ray/Azreal, Madeleine Coghlan as Beckett Wilson, Nadine Ellis as Iris/Purple Wolf

Promotional Photos:

Behind The Scenes Videos:

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What you should expect in this episode:

Charlyne Yi as Ray-Ray/Azreal which will explain perfectly why Lucifer was so apprehensive of Suki in 2x14 - Candy Morningstar

This episode was meant to be aired as 4th -6th in Season Four which might not give us much as to where is Chloe’s and Lucifer’s relationship at the moment but at the BTS 1st video you can see that Chloe seems to be avoiding him at the precinct. Meaning the first episodes of S4 are meant to be a Hell on Earth where Chloe is concerned for Lucifer...

You will see the Fursuit convention and Chloe in one of them!

Obviously the famous Six Flags Roller Coaster!

Lucifer’s choice of clothes is also important as he forgoes the dark colours which usually we have associated with our deal Devil... Perhaps he tries not to be shown so dark for Chloe’s sake? Who knows... We shall see!

We have a scene with Chloe, Lucifer and Ella at the crime scene..

Behind The Scenes Photos:

The Stand-Ins show that we will get an interaction between Chloe and Lucifer in this episode