#figure I might as well show y'all what's done in the meantime

[neversetyoufree]

[Video Description: a partial The Case Study of Vanitas AMV set to the song Follow Me Like The Moon by Sammy Rae and the Friends. It mostly features Vanitas, Jeanne, and Noé Archiviste. End Description].

I intended to put this in a reblog of my last post, but I forgot you can't actually do that, so here's the first minute of my current AMV wip. Bit of a sillygoofy one this time :)

#I really like this but the instrumental part after this is gonna be really hard to do well #so I've been putting it off and starting other amv ideas instead lol #figure I might as well show y'all what's done in the meantime #who am I to deprive the masses of goofy vanoéjeanne love triangle content set to sammy rae and the friends? #amv #vnc #video

[sunsetcarnation264]

So, uh, that DT17 finale huh?

I would've made this right after I watched the finale, but I wanted to give it a bit of time to sink in fully and made sure I thought everything through before giving my thoughts on it. Not the worst finale there is, but it definitely could've been way better in my opinion. I've heard about the finale from my friends who've seen it, which from the sounds of it I already wasn't liking it, but since I've seen the finale now, how I feel about it is now concrete and set in stone and I feel the same as before. Maybe how I feel about it is in the minority side, or maybe a majority side, I dunno but I don't care. It's not the best it could've been and I'll explain why below. If you like it, good for you I guess because everyone's tastes are different, but I personally don't and I feel like the show deserves a much better finale than this. HEAVY DUTY DISCLAIMER: Just because I'm criticizing the finale doesn't mean I don't love the series, in fact it's because I love the show that I'm giving criticism and give what I would’ve done instead, and if you're anything like me and you're hella late to the party then there'll be spoilers for the finale. If you haven't caught up on the last episode, then you're not missing much honestly, but if you don't like spoilers regardless then watch that first then come back

The first part of the finale starts off like any other DuckTales 2017 episode. It's Webby's birthday, everyone's keeping their eyes out for F.O.W.L. shit, and Webby's enjoying herself. After a bit everyone goes below Funso's and they end up in F.O.W.L.'s territory. F.O.W.L. sets everything up to be on self-destruct, so they gotta find them and stop the self-destruction. They did happen to do the latter, but the F.O.W.L. members already escaped with almost everything. Just almost. The gang end up finding May and June, who're clones and they presume they're clones of Webby. Now this is where I'm starting to not like the finale. Yeah, you can do clones as like a plot twist, but at the same time it feels a bit outta nowhere. Had they foreshadowed it in another episode or have it lead up to the whole "oh shit there's clones of a character we know and love" thing then I wouldn't have a problem, but this came outta nowhere and I kept an eye on possible foreshadowing during season 3 and the rest of season 2 post The Duck Knight Returns too so I would've picked something up. The only thing that could count as foreshadowing was when Beakley promised Webby that she won't keep anymore secrets from her and the harp was saying "fibbing fibbing fibbing", but that's just it. Part two of the finale, Gyro does tests on them to see who they might've been clones of. He tries to tell everyone what the results are but when Scrooge asks him, he said it didn't come up with anything for him to answer the question. Beakley thinks they're both dangerous and locks them up in a closet. Webby, being a naive little girl, wants to talk to them because they're essentially her 'sisters' and she wants to know them more even though Beakley straight up tells her not to interact with them. Webby disregards what Beakley says anyways and she frees them, talks to them, and tries to show them her family tree so they can figure out where May and June came from. May and June are basically like "ehhhh this is your family tree? Who tf are you related to besides Beakley?" yeah, as if extended family or found family still ain't family you jerks. In the meantime, Louie just wants to watch his Ottoman Empire finale which ends up being shitty foreshadowing for the last part of this finale. You'll see why I mentioned this later. They even see Lena and Violet on there and are like "okay but who're those" which Webby responds with how they're her best friends and guess what one of the two clones goes to do? One of them grabs scissors and tries to cut it. When she does cut it, Lena's like "aw hell no bitch" and uses magic on her. Webby being Webby, is completely upset about this because "that was my sister how could you do that" and runs off like how one of the clones ran off. Bitch you only knew her for like five seconds, just because y'all be related don't mean you automatically THIS close to each other like how you are with Lena, Violet, Huey, Dewey, Louie, and anybody else in the McDuck family. I personally believe that love, trust, and respect is what makes people family, not blood/DNA, adoption, or they were married into the family or a step sib/kid/etc. If they're a harmful dick (i.e. a bigot who's queerphobic and/or racist or if they're an abuser, murderer, etc.) then you don't gotta treat them like family or say that they're your family. But anyways we're probs getting off topic, point is that she should trust those who she's known forever instead of clones she knew for a few minutes. Everybody tries to find Webby and one of the clones that ran off. Webby bumped into Beakley as she was tryna find May or June (I think May tho, don't recall) and she tries to lie her way outta it but Beakley knows what's up lol. She says that Webby wants to see the clones, Webby goes with it, and the younger duck wants to know who her parents were. Beakley tells her who her parents were (which might've either been a lie or she was describing herself and a late significant other that we've seen in Webby's picture of her parents) and Webby accepts it. Cut to later when she catches May and June trying to steal the ancient artifacts that Scrooge and co. retrieved during the entirety of season 3. She's shocked that they're even doing this, they all fight each other, and May escaped while June got knocked out. Webby disguises herself as June while she takes her outside where F.O.W.L. awaited them with an aircraft, most importantly Bradford. We only find out Webby was disguising herself as June when everyone got on. Huey notices what's going on and he goes after them, somewhat hiding in the aircraft before everyone leaves for the F.O.W.L. hideout. Not gonna lie, that was a pretty smart plan by Webby. Considering they all look identical and Webby's good at imitation, she can actually get away with this pretty well. This I actually really like and I wouldn't change too much about this. When Huey reveals himself to the three, Webby reveals herself to him but tells him to play along so they ain't fucked over. Somewhat worked. Webby keeps making little slips here and there which makes May hella suspicious of her. They land at the hideout, Webby tries to get what info she can while Huey's taken away. Thanks to the help of Pepper (who I love btw and I think deserves the best ;____;), Webby ends up finding the document room where there's documents on May, June, and a third person with the codename of April. She watches it and oh, shit, it turns out Bentina Beakley actually snatched her ass from F.O.W.L. when she was a baby! What a shocker! She couldn't believe what she was seeing! This is actually fine to me, her possibly being a clone actually makes sense because she could've been a clone of Beakley. Plus it's also a huge reference to how Webby was created to be a combination of Daisy's nieces April, May, and June back in the original series, though I dunno how many people would catch that, especially younger fans who might not have done the research to getting all of the references and easter eggs here. When Beakley was brought in (essentially she knocked Scrooge out without hurting him, went to here alone to take care of F.O.W.L. once and for all just for Webby, but got defeated along with some of the McDucks), everyone leaves Beakley, Webby, and the Harp alone and Webby somewhat confronts Beakley about her past. Needless to say, Webby ain't excited about this and she gets captured and tied up. She's actually pretty depressed, which I mean in a way I don't blame her since she wanted to know if that shit was real or if F.O.W.L. was fabricating it. Cut to Huey being brought to Bradford. Apparently he was a fellow Woodchuck too, though he wasn't the best despite being the very first Woodchuck by his grandmother Isabella Finch, in fact he was the worst which hahaha yeah I can actually believe that. It does explain why he hates adventures and all of that shit, one of the only things I'm willing to accept from the finale. He talks about how he wants to complete the collection "for the better" because Scrooge and everyone else in the family were the only ones to have Isabella's lost journal. Huey believes this at first. He stops believing it once he ends up finding Gyro and everyone else who're locked up. In the meantime, Bradford drags Webby out to a sort of box along with May and June. She doesn't know why she's brought up here. When she gets close to the box, the papyrus appears because... She's the descendant of... Of Scrooge McDuck. Okay no, JUST NAH MAN. This is where my biggest issue in the finale lies, the fact that she's a clone/made from Scrooge's DNA and is technically his "daughter". Not everybody has to be related to Scrooge McDuck to be great, in fact doing this to her actually ruins Webby's character. Her trope is "found family," not "I'm secretly part of the family this whole time and not even I knew it" and this fucks with it so badly. This show is about family, and all different kinds of it. Being taken care of by your uncles/aunts instead of your parents but still having a good relationship, some kids don't have parents and they're gone for whatever reason, being loved and accepted by other family members, some families are awful and abusive, hell some families have two same sex/gendered parents with a kid who's def adopted and one might've been adopted or been from a previous relationship, and it's also how sometimes we find people to call family because we found them and they found us. Webby was the one to fill in the finding those to find family alongside her grandma, but I feel like they're disregarding that just to have a huge plot twist. Again aside from Beakley keeping secrets from Webby, there was no foreshadowing and it makes a previous episode from season two (Nightmare on Killmotor Hill) seem kinda creepy in hindsight since she's over here wanting to be Scrooge himself, and creepy overall due to how obsessive she was over the whole McDuck family in general. You could say it's foreshadowing this whole time, since some people might actually be like this before realizing that "oh hey I'm actually related to this person" due to someone being adopted, given to someone else to take care of, divorce and each parent keeps one of the kids and they don't meet again until way later in life, which in a way is a fair point but at the same time not everyone's gonna notice this even when they look back at the previous episodes. If you're gonna do foreshadowing and a plot twist, you have to do it where looking back everyone can notice little details, not just a certain group of people, and you gotta make sure it's good. Every plot twist has it's foreshadowings, and every good one has a good amount for people to take a guess. Every bad plot twist, however, is either forced in just to shock the viewers or has shitty foreshadowing that's either extremely little or none. I will make a comparison between this and Steven Universe (which if you're still watching or haven't touched yet but haven't gotten up to season five, please skip this part to avoid spoilers for the show) because in Steven Universe, there were PLENTY of hints and foreshadowing that Rose Quartz was actually Pink Diamond and it was even a theory too that Rose was actually Pink, alongside a theory that Pearl was actually the one to shatter Pink Diamond and not Rose which ended up being true in a way that both fits. This was a good plot twist that everyone can watch the show from start to end once again and notice every little bits of details that led up to that plot twist reveal. (End of SU spoilers) This, however, isn't a good plot twist. It's a terrible one and, again, forced in, messy, and there's not enough foreshadowing that can be used to be like "oh I kinda saw that coming" or "oh shit!" and think it's a genuinely good twist. Also the fact that Webby called Scrooge "Dad" T W I C E in the finale, it doesn't sound right, I even voiced out loud that OH EW THAT DOESN'T FEEL RIGHT WHY ARE YOU CALLING HIM DAD THIS IS GROSS STOP IT LIKE JUST CALL HIM UNCLE SCROOGE LIKE YOU'VE ALWAYS DONE- Oh and this is meant to be a throwback to that Ottoman Empire finale foreshadowing thing from earlier btw lol The last few things I can note about this is the fight between Scrooge and Bradford, where the latter reveals that he was the one to tell Della about the Spear of Selene (which pisses Scrooge off so damn BADLY and it's the other thing I can accept from the finale, it seems like Bradford to do that shit), and the fact that Donald almost died for fucking good due to Bradford pushing his ass into a machine that can erase anything and everything from existence when put in there. He did so with his minions, so he has no qualms about doing so to Scrooge's family unless he signed the papyrus as a contract. Not that it worked anyways, since "family is the greatest adventure of all" which Bradford didn't understand one bit lol But the finale? Not good, the show deserved so much better and Huey deserved way better because this was his season. What I would've done differently is mainly how Webby is a "clone" or whatever you want to call her. It makes no sense for all of her DNA to be from Scrooge McDuck, which raises way too many questions. Why not Beakley? Why not a warrior from F.O.W.L. with a mix of McDuck DNA? Why is Webby a girl while Scrooge isn't? You could argue that oh he might be a trans guy, which while I absolutely LOVE trans and nonbinary headcanons (due to the fact I'm a nonbinary woman myself), it just feels like a cheap escape goat of an excuse to explain that and Scrooge being trans because of that? Ehhhhhhhhhhhhh it doesn't feel right to me. If it was a combination of him and Beakley, then okay I'd get why she's like that, but it still has the problem of her being related to the family DNA-wise. Same with the clones honestly. Now what I would do differently is make it where she's a clone of someone (def not Scrooge) and make it where she has an identity-existential crisis. Who is she really? Is she this "April" character, or if she Webby like she's always known herself as her whole life? In the end, she accepts that she's herself, Webby Vanderquack, granddaughter of Bentina Beakley and an ally of Scrooge McDuck. May and June, on the other hand, are possibly failed attempts to recreate Webby, the perfect clone, in order to get the papyrus to appear which in of itself never stated it had to be a DIRECT heir to Scrooge McDuck (it just states that it requires an heir of Scrooge McDuck) like a daughter/son or whatever. You can go back to the episode "The First Adventure" to look at the papyrus if you want, but he wrote that it was to an HEIR not a descendant. It heavily supports how they changed a shit ton of things before the last season being this year instead of idk, try to make it better because they finished voicing the lines in January this year when they started doing season three around the time we got season two. Bradford gets frustrated, wondering how it couldn't have worked because HE HAS WEBBY RIGHT HERE. What he didn't realize was that it could've been someone within the family itself, one who's considered the smart one out of the bunch that wasn't Scrooge McDuck himself, someone who's also a fellow Junior Woodchuck. And that would be Hubert Duck, in which season three is meant to be his season. When he gets close, the papyrus appears but Bradford snatches it and runs off with it so he can finish up that contract he's spent FOREVER to make and force Scrooge to write his name there. As with May and June, I dunno what I would do with them, but if I rewrite the finale at some point (which I would be doing now with my mom, who watched the finale with me because we tend to watch stuff a lot, but I can't at the moment because I have a list of stuff to make and I can't afford to make it longer than it already is along with my WIP list) I'll figure out what to do with them. Overall, the finale is a 4 out of 10 for me. Not horrible enough for it to be the worst finale ever in the history of shows/series, but it's definitely got a lot of things that bothered me too much to genuinely enjoy it without getting stuck on something for too long. Again if you like it, good for you, but personally? It should've been much better and the series deserves a proper finale. If there's no surprise movie to make it better, then I'ma just pretend this finale doesn't exist like nah bye bitch dunno you lmao Besides with how messy this finale is, I hope you guys enjoyed reading my thoughts on it and I hope you guys have a great day

#DuckTales 2017 #DuckTales Reboot #Spoilers on the finale/The Last Adventure #Lil's Talks #Idk I just thought about it again and I'm just not that happy with it lol #Just put a lot of love and care into everything you work on guys #I'm up for discussion to see why you guys like it #just don't be a dick in the comments and reblogs please #That's all I ask for

[365daysofsasuhina]

[ 365 Days of SasuHina || Day Two Hundred Sixty-Two: Your Policy ] [ Uchiha Sasuke, Hyūga Hinata, Uchiha Fugaku ] [ SasuHina ] [ Verse: Best Years of Your Life ] [ AO3 Link ]

He knows it’s going to be one of those days when the first thing he hears upon arriving at work is his father saying, “Sasuke, a word.”

...wonderful. What has he managed to do wrong this time? Sighing and putting his things down at his desk, Sasuke follows Fugaku into his office, closing the door behind him in preparation of a beratement.

The patriarch takes his time, making his way around his desk before taking a seat, leaning back with steepled fingers. “I just wanted to give you a little...warning.”

Dark brows furrow. “...warning? About what?”

“As I’m sure you know, we’re been doing performance reviews the last few weeks. And a few people are, unfortunately, going to have to be let go.”

For a moment, fear flickers in his gut. He...he can’t be one of them, can he?

After a brief pause, his father offers, “...I’m afraid your secretary is one on the list of those we’ll have to let go.”

Sasuke...blinks. Blinks again. “...you’re joking.”

“I’m not. She hasn’t been performing up to our standards, my son. Now,” he goes on, holding up a hand to stop his son’s rebuttal. “I know that the two of you have a rather...complicated relationship…”

Sasuke can’t help an outright snort. Complicated, huh? Yeah, sure. If you want to call a woman desperate for both attention and social standing badgering him into sleeping with her a time or two complicated. They aren’t dating. In fact, in a lot of ways, he’s become less and less able to stand her the last few months. Her attempts to wriggle her way into his social circle (and likely leech off of him, maybe for a promotion) have largely failed, and after indulging her out of a mixture of curiosity and pity...he finds her obnoxious, self-centered, and a nuisance.

So in truth? He’s glad. But he also knows this will rock the boat. Hence the warning.

“So, I just wanted you to be aware that I will be serving her her notice this morning. And I expect a rather brilliant fireworks display,” Fugaku mutters.

“Right...you don’t happen to need any errands run this morning, do you?”

Fugaku snorts, a hint of a grin curling his lips. “No, I’m afraid not. But, Sasuke…” Leaning forward, he braces arms atop his desk. “You might want to...reconsider your policy when it comes to the people you become involved with. Secretaries are just...a recipe for disaster. If you really have to date someone in our company, try another department, will you? Give us all a little breathing room?”

“I’m not dating her,” Sasuke retorts, nose wrinkling.

“Well, whatever it is...it’s going to make this all the messier than it would have been if you’d just kept your business relationships professional,” his father bats back. “Now, you’ve got work to do.”

“So...what am I supposed to do about a secretary in the meantime?”

“I’ll have one of the girls from billing step in for a bit - then we’ll see about hiring someone full time. I’ve already started going through a few applications.”

“Do I get any say? They’ll be my secretary, after all.”

“I think this is something best left to me,” Fugaku replies dryly. “You just...worry about today for now. The rest will follow in due time.”

...maybe he has a point. “All right...thanks for the warning.”

“Figured it was only fair.”

With that grim tiding, Sasuke retreats from the office and instead heads toward his own. Maybe he can position a file cabinet against his door to bar it shut in case she tries to come in and strangle him. He might not be the reason she’s getting fired - it’s rather clear it’s her own fault - but he can picture now how she’ll be trying to spin this to make him the bad guy. Because surely she knows that the end of her career also means the end of this...whatever the hell they’ve got going on. And given how clingy she’s been...he’s really not sure what she’ll be more angry about.

All he knows is...she’ll be very, very angry. Sweet facade aside, that woman has a temper…

Closing his door and attempting to make himself look small behind his desk, he just...gets to work, occasionally glancing up to see if she’s arrived yet.

Five minutes before the day officially begins, she shows up, going about her morning routine...only to pause at an intercom from her phone he can’t hear with the door closed. Pointedly looking at his monitor, he can still feel her eyes boring through the window at him.

Here we go…

While Sasuke is sure his father will be as cordial as he can be (though his base nature is rather...gruff and unyielding), he knows there’s no avoiding the blowup. So when he swears he can feel stomping footsteps, he peers warily around the edge of his screen.

To his honest surprise, there’s no yelling, or screaming. Just a very red, purse-lipped woman collecting her things (very angrily) from her desk, shoving them into a box before making her way to the elevator.

It’s then she yells. Just a few words. Very...vulgar words that make even Sasuke flinch, the rest of the floor surely hearing it (and maybe even the entire building).

Risking a glance back up, he looks to his phone at an incoming comm. “Well...it could have been worse,” Fugaku sighs through the speaker.

“True…”

“Your temporary gal will be here in a few minutes - just give her a rundown, and she’ll be fine.”

“All right, will do.” Letting the ‘call’ end with a long sigh, Sasuke doesn’t bother to get back to work until she arrives - he’ll only have to stop and start again. Instead, he watches the window, only standing when a figure hesitantly steps up to the desk, glancing around as if in search of help.

Opening the door, he takes a moment to look her over.

She’s a bit shorter than his previous partner, and entirely different in build. Whereas the former had been rather lean and almost flat (in most regards), this one is...more rounded, with long dark hair and a heart-shaped face. Her outfit is mostly dark purples and soft blues, and he swears her eyes are huge! It’s like she looks right through him, like a doe in headlights. And unlike her predecessor, who was all edges, attitude, and temper, this one seems...soft, receptive, and attentive.

...she’s adorable.

Blinking, Sasuke balks for a moment. “You’re, uh...the temp?”

“Yes, sir. Hinata Hyūga. I’m, um...I’m from over in billing…? Mr. Uchiha asked if I could cover in light of you...losing your secretary. I hope I can be of help…!”

“I’m sure you will.” Doing his best to smooth out his facade, Sasuke puts hands in his slacks pockets, trying to look nonchalant. “All you really need to worry about is phone calls, and my schedule. Think of yourself as like...my day planner, but in person form. In all honesty, I’m not that busy - my brother’s the one who gets run more ragged. You’ll be fine, I’m sure.”

“O-okay. I’ll do my best!”

“If you need any help with the software or anything, you can ping my brother’s secretary - she’ll walk you through it. She’s an old pro, so any questions you’ve got, she can handle. And she’s super friendly, so don’t sweat it.”

“Oh, I see...thank you! I’ll do my best!”

“Hopefully we’ll get someone new in here quick so you can get back to your right department, huh?” he asks, giving a hint of a grin.

“That would be nice, yes...n-not that it’s a problem being here! In fact, I...I volunteered for it. I’ve never been in this p-part of of the building. And I thought it would be a good learning experience - to, um...to work with one of the higher ups!”

...she really needs to stop being so stupidly cute. She just...oozes charm and sweetness! It’s not fair! “Yeah, uh...well, I guess you can give it a shot and see how you like it. Guess if it’s a good fit, you could always apply for it yourself, if you wanted..”

“Oh, I...I don’t know about that.” Hinata gives a nervous giggle. “But, um...I guess we’ll see! I b-better get started. If I need anything, I’ll...I’ll ping the other secretary.”

“Or you can ask me. I dunno much about the program they use, but anything else I can probably answer if she’s busy.”

“O-okay! Thank you, sir.”

“Please, just Sasuke - sir or Mr. Uchiha are too much like my dad,” Sasuke offers, grimacing slightly.

“Oh, right! I’ll...I’ll keep that in mind. So sorry, I -”

“Nothing to apologize for, Hinata. Don’t worry so much - it’s just a temporary thing. We’ll help you get through it. Besides, we’re the ones who owe you for stepping up to the plate.”

Her cheeks flush a delicate shade of pink. “R...right. Um...okay. Well, I...I’ll see what I can get started doing!”

Sasuke gives a slight smile. “Sounds good. I better get to it, too. Holler if you need anything.”

“I-I will!”

Retreating back to his office, Sasuke sits...and buries his face in his hands with a gusty sigh. Didn’t he just get lectured about this? Why the hell did the person who showed up have to be so...so…?

...well, at least she’s only here temporarily. Knowing that tone his father used, his next assistant won’t be anyone he’ll be likely to shack up with. And...now that he thinks about it...it was Fugaku himself who suggested someone in another department, right…?

For now, though...he’s going to have to grin and bear it. The poor thing’s going to be nervous and behind enough with her new learning curve without him trying to cozy up to her and being distracting.

That’ll just...have to wait.

                                                            .oOo.

     ...I feel like I wrote something similar to this before, but...I'm getting to the point where I can't tell what's been done in this challenge, or maybe things from past events, so...if it's a bit repetitive, my bad xD But I'm exhausted and in a bit of a rush, so...this is what my brain gave me!      ...I love this trope, honestly - it's SO cliche, but...I'm a sucker for cliches, haha~ I'd like to do more if I get the chance, but y'all know how that goes by now lol      Anywho, it's late and I've got a busy day ahead of me tomorrow, so best to call it a night! Thanks for reading~

#sasuhina #uchiha sasuke #hyūga hinata #uchiha fugaku #best years of your life [ au ] #365daysofsasuhina

[verdigrisprowl]

Mar 12 Dancitron Movie Night - Aliens

After having received threats of visits from his loyal cockroach subjects, Soundwave searched every arriving visitor for hiding roach hordes. Prowl (who honestly handled all this very well) asked Soundwave why he doesn’t just tell the cockroaches that consider him king that he doesn’t want them crawling inside his body. He didn’t really have a good answer.

Other than that, Prowl basically spent the whole movie hiding Tarantulas in his lap and trying to puzzle out how much of the movie is Soundwave’s kink.

Also, he’s now officially reduced his tolerance quota for morons in the stream.

One of Prowl’s alternates showed up at the stream; he’s disappointed he didn’t get a chance to talk to her. Perhaps next time.

Today ItsyBitsySpyers 7:55 pm *Ravage is standing at the door to Dancitron, ready to sniff everyone as they come through. If you have a single roach in you, prepare to be thrown out.*

*In the meantime, Soundwave is parked on his usual couch, quickly polishing off the last of his own snacks before anyone arrives. Don't worry; he'll be done in time. You won't get a chance to see his face.* Specs 7:57 pm *the only way roaches could be in the dragon is if she ate them, which she's happy to do. meanwhile, the cart is back, piled high with heartfelt but not particularly effective attempts at energon cookies and mercury cakes shaped like musical instruments. she tried, really!* Hello, Ravage! Sludge 7:58 pm *Sludge prooooobably does not contain cockroaches. but if he does, uh, good luck kicking him out?* Swoop 7:59 pm *slides to a stop and scampers to the door still in ptero-mode* ItsyBitsySpyers 7:59 pm ((one sec we got a technical problem to work out)) Sludge 7:59 pm *then again, he's not so big compared to some of the rest here. still bigger than Ravage, though.* Swoop 7:59 pm ((np the dinos can dino in the mean time)) VProwl 7:59 pm *Skips straight past the sniff-test so thoroughly he didn't even notice it was there. The benefits of an avatar.* Swoop 8:00 pm *skitters between Sludge's legs, cackling all the while* ItsyBitsySpyers 8:00 pm *Ravage sniffs the dragon from head to tail, all of the cart, and ... steals one of the instrument cakes before his Boss can lay silent claim to them.* =You may pass, eh?= Sludge 8:00 pm 😧 *and thud* Swoop 8:00 pm *VICTORY SHRIEKS and jumps on Sludge* Sludge 8:01 pm *Sludge's legs do not GO far enough apart to be skittered through. sorry about the shaking..... Cybertron?* ItsyBitsySpyers 8:01 pm =You. Large one. Come here.= Sludge 8:01 pm Ummmm.... Specs 8:01 pm Appreciated. *Ravage can have as many treats as he wants, for being a Good Ravage. she'll take care of putting the rest away.* ItsyBitsySpyers 8:01 pm *Soundwave startles at Prowl and gets up to scold him for not going through the door to be sniffed before remembering that Prowl is an avatar. This is awkward. He'll just... slowly sit back down. And ping hello.* Swoop 8:01 pm *throws himself over Sludge's shoulders like the wiggliest shawl* Sludge 8:02 pm You Swoop heavy. Swoop 8:02 pm nuh UH Sludge 8:02 pm *it fine tho it fine he's gettin up he can handle* VProwl 8:03 pm *pings back* ... You don't need to stand on my account, you know. *he's very ???* Sludge 8:03 pm *just give him about 18 seconds to get his giant ass feet back under him* ItsyBitsySpyers 8:03 pm *Ravage growls. They're holding up the door. He heads toward Sludge and snaps.* =BE QUIET AND STAND STILL.= Sludge 8:04 pm Umm.... Swoop 8:04 pm *kicks his little birdy feet in the air* Sludge 8:04 pm *was he.... being loud? he didn't even notice* ItsyBitsySpyers 8:05 pm [[...He knows. He was going to scan you for - never mind. He forgot you were an avatar.]]

*He's gonna just try to get Swoop and Sludge sniffed together at the same time. It'll be easier than trying to wrangle the pterodactyl separately, anyway.* Swoop 8:05 pm Sludge at a MOVIE! Dinobot movie time! Sludge 8:06 pm Uhhh... it Dinobot movie? Swoop 8:06 pm DUNNO But now there LOT OF DINOBOTS aaaaaaaaaat movie : > ItsyBitsySpyers 8:06 pm =Hm. You two smell... disgusting. But no bugs. Inside.= Sludge 8:06 pm *counts* *one...... two............. yes, okay, that is a lot.* *clomps in* Tarantulas 8:07 pm *small spider is coming through the door... by way of the ceiling. sorry ravage, he's skipping the line* Swoop 8:07 pm *has no idea what this bug business is about but he has a TOL perch so he's happy* ItsyBitsySpyers 8:07 pm ((is the sound being laggy for anyone else? it was being fine when i tested it earlier 😐 )) VProwl 8:08 pm ((working fine here)) Bull 8:08 pm *Instead of Magnum Ace asking for permission in, it was Bull Armor today* Swoop 8:08 pm ((not terribly)) Specs 8:08 pm ((it seems to be working for me)) VProwl 8:08 pm *Well. Prowl can guess what they're watching tonight.* Bull 8:08 pm ((No problems here)) Swoop 8:09 pm *pat pat pat pats at Sludge with his wings* Look! It, uh, RIPLEY movie. ItsyBitsySpyers 8:09 pm *There's a bridge, but it'll be outside the door. Bull gets sniffed with everyone else. Twice. He's from Earth.*

*Tarantulas will get a light scolding as soon as he's not tiny.* Sludge 8:10 pm Ummmmkay. Like him believe or not? Specs 8:10 pm *it's probably a good thing that the dragon is just finishing up putting her treats in the designated area- if that minispide is tiny enough to eat, he'd be getting more of the predator routine than she'd feel okay about upon realizing it was him.* Bull 8:10 pm *Bull headed through, tired from a long day* Tarantulas 8:10 pm *eat the spide and get blasted from the inside* Rinky 8:10 pm -Bull may want to turn around- Specs 8:10 pm *she's only about the size of a fox, he's PROBABLY safe. probably.* Sludge 8:10 pm *Swoop's perch is going to go stand by the back wall* ItsyBitsySpyers 8:11 pm *Not until Bull got sniffed he didn't. Ravage will cuff him back into his place in line with a paw.* Tarantulas 8:11 pm *he's about a foot wide. ambitious prey* Rinky 8:11 pm -Because this one followed after him, and just...froze at the sight of the crowd- Sludge 8:11 pm *it's an okay wall. not orange or rocky.* VProwl 8:11 pm *... wouldn't be surprised if this is ALL they're watching tonight. xenomorph music videos.* Bull 8:11 pm *Bull didn't notice he had been followed until he was already through* Rinky?! *oh scrap* ItsyBitsySpyers 8:11 pm ((ten minute warning y'all)) Specs 8:11 pm *she's just draconic enough to try, but fortunately, preoccupied enough to not notice. the spide is safe.* Tarantulas 8:12 pm (( omg how did i not think that alien mmds would be a thing ItsyBitsySpyers 8:12 pm ((and this one's just because MMDs are my sense of humor)) Rinky 8:12 pm Bull...what's going on? Specs 8:12 pm ((jasgdajsda)) Sludge 8:13 pm [[ where's drift when pyramidhead is dancing ]] Rinky 8:13 pm -referring to the line and those in it- ItsyBitsySpyers 8:13 pm *SNIFF. SNIFF. SNIFF.*

*Bull and Rinky smell badly of Earth, but not of roaches. Ravage lets them pass.* Rinky 8:14 pm -Don't mind him, he's stuck close to Bull now- VProwl 8:14 pm ((if drift was here he'd totally immediately decide to learn the dance.)) ItsyBitsySpyers 8:14 pm *Soundwave looks out through the doors to see who else is coming and - ah, scrap. She really meant that.*

@P: [[...You'll have a good night tonight. He might not. Sadly.]] Rinky 8:14 pm ((Ace isn't here, things went pear-shaped in his timeline ItsyBitsySpyers 8:14 pm @Tarantulas: [[You bypassed the roach test.]] Prowl 8:14 pm *is it fashionably late if you waited until the last minute to ask if you could go?* ItsyBitsySpyers 8:15 pm ((edited. idk why i thought i saw ace's name)) Bull 8:15 pm *Oh Magnum was gonna kill him later* Uh... Its, complicated. I'll explain after we get inside. *It was always safer once they could get on a table* Tarantulas 8:15 pm @SW: ::Roach test? Do explain.:: Rinky 8:15 pm ((cuz I play Ace too? Maybe? ItsyBitsySpyers 8:15 pm @T: [[...No. Go see Ravage.]] Bull 8:15 pm ((Only cause Bull knows Magnum is gonna kill him later for Rinky following him XD)) Specs 8:16 pm *the dragon loafs comfortably on a couch and nods at Other Prowl- then she does a double take, looking at Soundwave's Prowl and back to Other Prowl. it's hard to differentiate when you are small and fuzzy.* Rinky 8:16 pm B-but...safer? This doesn't look safer! -gestures to the larger mechs- VProwl 8:16 pm @Soundwave «No? Even with xenomorphs?» Prowl 8:16 pm *either way, she's here and she'll opt for an empty seat near the door* Rinky 8:17 pm ((enter button you pos Bull 8:17 pm They make sure to watch their steps; still better to get up. *He lead Rinky up one of the tables* ItsyBitsySpyers 8:17 pm *Ravage cuffs Prowl just as hard as Bull. Harder maybe. He doesn't like her. Obvious reasons.* =BACK IN LINE.= *Bob is... a bug, himself. Ravage isn't sure how to classify that. He doesn't look roach-shaped, though, so since he's clean internally, he's free to come in.* Rinky 8:18 pm Where are we? Do Owner and Coach know? They're already worried with what happened last week, this can't be good Prowl 8:18 pm *didn't even realize the feline was there, but that's a good reminder* Fine. ItsyBitsySpyers 8:18 pm *Soundwave looks at Prowl and just. Curls a feeler over in his alternate's direction. That should explain it.* Swoop 8:19 pm *pat pat pat pat pat pat pat at Sludge* VProwl 8:19 pm *looks over.* @S «... Aha. Too much of a good thing?» Swoop 8:19 pm Us go treats with BOB ItsyBitsySpyers 8:19 pm @P: [[You could say that.]] Bob 8:19 pm *waves at Swoop* *Waves at the brother of Swoop* Swoop 8:19 pm *waves at Bob* ((are bob's wings still out? XD)) Bob 8:20 pm ((Yep)) Sludge 8:20 pm *gentle shove at too much patting. gentle-ish.* Swoop 8:20 pm ((adorable)) Bob 8:20 pm ((Never figured out how to put them back)) Swoop 8:20 pm *OOF and now he's on the floor* *but laughing all the way* Bull 8:20 pm *Immediately Bull Armor shhed Rinky.* No, they do not know and we don't tell them. It gets complicated. *He sighed before explaining* Magnum accidentally found this place and I ended up following one time. Sludge 8:20 pm *and Sludge's shoulders are freeeeeee* Bob 8:20 pm *Lopes over to Dino's* *Get's a terrible idea* Tarantulas 8:21 pm *descends on thread onto verdigrisprowl's shoulder - he's heavy enough to feel but only by a small amount* Swoop 8:21 pm *lets himself go all the way down so he can transform and handspring back up* Sludge 8:21 pm *not like he ever needs to worry about being top heavy but. BUT. Swoop heavy.* ItsyBitsySpyers 8:21 pm *Ravage makes a big show of sneering and making the No Banana Cat faces at Prowl while he sniffs at her. He even goes so far as to affect a sneeze. But he can't decline when he knows she isn't contaminated.*

=Bah. In.= Bull 8:21 pm Basically all the mechs around; or pretty much all *he wasn't sure about everyone* are sentient mechs from other worlds. Swoop 8:21 pm *SLUDGE U TAKE THAT BACK SWOOP IS A FEATHER LIGHT ATHLETE* Sludge 8:21 pm *HEAVY* Rinky 8:21 pm -deathly silence from him- But why not? Shouldn't they know? And... Bob 8:21 pm *Bob concurs. Best projectile* Sludge 8:21 pm *FAT BIRD* Swoop 8:21 pm *how dare* Rinky 8:22 pm And you're joking. You have to be. ItsyBitsySpyers 8:22 pm ((we'll start in just a sec i ran out of music and forgot to grab snacks for my pills, gimme like 3 min)) Specs 8:22 pm *the dragon cranes her neck to peer at Bob* You look different. New molt? VProwl 8:22 pm *oh. hello there. tilts helm toward Tarantulas in greeting.* Bob 8:22 pm WHAT IS A MOLT Swoop 8:22 pm Bob Bob Bob! You show Sludge WINGS! Sludge 8:22 pm *what if Sludge climbed up on YOUR shoulders how would you like that, huh* Bull 8:22 pm They have enough problems as it is. How would explaining this place help them? *sighs* And no... it's not a joke. Bob 8:22 pm *Turns in place* Swoop 8:22 pm *he wouldn't like it, he wouldn't like anything, he would be dead* Sludge 8:22 pm *he won't because he cannot climb. BUT WHAT IF HE DID.* Bob 8:22 pm *Smacks Swoop with wings by accident* Swoop 8:22 pm >.O Bob 8:22 pm I DO NOT KNOW HOW TO UNDO THEM Swoop 8:22 pm *giggles* VProwl 8:23 pm @T «... If you're looking for somewhere to perch, my legs are more stable than my shoulder.» Swoop 8:23 pm No no! Don't UNDO wings! Wings are THE BEST!!!!!! Prowl 8:23 pm *it's a good thing she can't see the expression and the sneeze is dismissed as dust she may have missed, so she just nods and finally does take that seat, this is still better than trying to visit Maccadam's. Somehow* Sludge 8:23 pm Uhhh.. me Sludge think them pretty. Bob 8:23 pm BUT I DO NOT KNOW HOW TO MAKE THEM WORK =< Swoop 8:24 pm pretty AWESOME Rinky 8:24 pm -wild gestures to the large mechs around them- Bull Armor! This is insane! Bob 8:24 pm THEY DO NOT LOOK LIKE THE SWOOPING FRIEND'S WINGS AND THEY DO NOT LOOK LIKE THE JET FRIENDS' WINGS AND THEY DO NOT DO ANY OF THE THINGS. EXCEPT FOR KNOCKING OVER ALL OF THE THINGS Swoop 8:24 pm You BOB not look like Swoop or Aerialbots or Skyfire or anyone else SO them Bob wings : > Specs 8:24 pm A molt is when you shed your carapace, and get more carapace. *the dragon ducks her head in embarrassment* I guess you don't do that. Sludge 8:24 pm You Bob not Dinobot. *so why would he have wings like Swoop, obviously.* Bob 8:24 pm I YAWNED Specs 8:24 pm ((I am sorry for slowness a GOBLIN PRINCESS wants to send you messages)) Bob 8:24 pm AND THEN WINGS Tarantulas 8:25 pm @T: ::You'd be surprised how good a grip these tarsi have.::

*being smaller means no one notices him, cough cough* Rinky 8:25 pm What if we get stuck here? Or injured? What do we tell them then? Swoop 8:25 pm *mock yawns and flares his wings out to demonstrate Bob's story* Bob 8:25 pm BUT THANK YOU FOR TELLING ME WHAT A MOLT IS. THIS IS A NEW THING LEARNED Specs 8:25 pm That's... Fascinating. *the dragon looks unnerved by the idea of suddenly spouting wings, though* You're very welcome, Bob. Bob 8:25 pm YES *Bob is still very unnerved by it to be fair* Swoop 8:25 pm *pats the nearest wing* Sludge 8:25 pm Me Sludge not gonna yawn nothing. Bob 8:26 pm *Full body wiggles away from the touch* Sludge 8:26 pm *does not want wings to pop out from yawning* Bob 8:26 pm *Still so weird* Swoop 8:26 pm You Sludge need BIGGEST WINGS IN THE WOOOOOOOOOOORLD to pick up all you SLUDGE keheheheheheh VProwl 8:26 pm *... okay. no lap spider. sigh.* @T «I believe you.» Swoop 8:26 pm :V Bull 8:26 pm *Bull gently but firmly pulls Rinky's arms down* Rinky I need you to calm down; we can get back. This is a place to relax and watch movies. After the movies Magnum and I have always returned. ItsyBitsySpyers 8:26 pm ((OKAY sorry for the delay let's do this)) Swoop 8:26 pm *is so very VERY tempted to grab at Bob's wings now* Bob 8:27 pm *Oblivious* ItsyBitsySpyers 8:27 pm [[Swoop. You. Before we start: Have you decided not to punch anyone, start fights, kick, slap, burn, or otherwise be terrible to other guests?]] Sludge 8:27 pm Me Sludge just need Skyfire wings. Swoop 8:27 pm *but the tiniest baby voice inside him holds him back because he has SHRIEKED at other (dino) people for being too rough on his wings* *the BABIEST of moral dilemmas* Bull 8:27 pm ((running to get some sweet revenge; need it after the day)) Bob 8:28 pm I HAVE BROUGHT THE BAND AIDS JUST IN CASE Swoop 8:28 pm You Bob show Sunstreaker wings? ItsyBitsySpyers 8:28 pm ((WARNINGS: Flashing lights and unfortunately I do not remember when, blood and violence and death, threats of physical punishment for kids, couple incidents of racist or sexist comments, language.)) Bob 8:28 pm THE CARETAKER SAW THEM Swoop 8:28 pm You show Ratchet wings? ItsyBitsySpyers 8:28 pm [[SWOOP.]] Bob 8:28 pm YES Swoop 8:28 pm HI It me Swoop Bob 8:28 pm HE'S SWOOP Swoop 8:28 pm Yah ItsyBitsySpyers 8:28 pm [[Once more - before we start: Have you decided not to punch anyone, start fights, kick, slap, burn, or otherwise be terrible to other guests?]] Bull 8:28 pm ((ok back)) Swoop 8:28 pm Nahhhh ItsyBitsySpyers 8:29 pm [[Then goodnight.]]

*And into a bridge you'll go.* Swoop 8:29 pm :V Bob 8:29 pm !!!! Sludge 8:29 pm Him Swoop do those always. Swoop 8:29 pm *is gone* Prowl 8:29 pm @Soundwave: What movie is this? *she's accesses a database of audio descriptions* Specs 8:29 pm *begone, Swoop* Bob 8:29 pm D= ItsyBitsySpyers 8:29 pm @SC-Prowl: [[Aliens.]] Rinky 8:29 pm ((hoi ItsyBitsySpyers 8:29 pm *Ravage will just walk up to Tarantulas and smell him there, since he never went to the door.* Bob 8:29 pm *Gonna hunker down by Sludge then* Prowl 8:30 pm *she pings a thank you and downloads the appropriate file* Sludge 8:30 pm 😄 Rinky 8:30 pm -is making a valiant attempt at calming down- Sludge 8:30 pm [[ rabbit wtf u doin i specifically wanted a c : smiley ]] ItsyBitsySpyers 8:31 pm [[...Bull Armor and friend, you may not enjoy this one. He apologizes. You may both use the screen upstairs to watch something else if it disturbs you. Remember not to attempt entering the other rooms.]] Rinky 8:31 pm Okay...okay.... Wait. What? Who? Bull 8:31 pm Thanks Soundwave *Though he really didn't need Rinky hearing that ItsyBitsySpyers 8:31 pm ((DISREGARD THE NAME USE i'm tired and half-functioning)) Tarantulas 8:31 pm *is sniffed, was hoping to avoid being sniffed by just ignoring soundwave* Swoop 8:32 pm ((god this movie is awesome)) Rinky 8:32 pm Who was that? Sludge 8:32 pm *points at screen* It sparkle. Bull 8:32 pm That was Soundwave; he runs this place. *atleast from what he understood* ItsyBitsySpyers 8:32 pm *Ravage prods the spider gently with a clawtip before deciding that's just. Spider smell. He can stay.* VProwl 8:32 pm *stiffens, raising a hand to half shield Tarantulas.* Excuse me? Specs 8:32 pm *the dragon looks over to see what Ravage is doing. suddenly, she is statue-still, save for the thumping of the barest tip of her tail. she sees a spide.* Tarantulas 8:32 pm *almost prods ravage back but decides better of it* ItsyBitsySpyers 8:32 pm [[A threat was called in. Ravage is checking everyone.]] Prowl 8:33 pm What kind of threat? Sludge 8:33 pm [[ shit is that guy freehanding those hela straight lines ]] VProwl 8:33 pm ... Ah. ItsyBitsySpyers 8:33 pm [[An infestation of vermin.]] Rinky 8:33 pm -sort of shakes Bull- What was that? I don't have my comms on VProwl 8:33 pm *as long as Ravage isn't trying to eat Tarantulas or something.* Prowl 8:33 pm Vermin? Tarantulas 8:33 pm *it's not ravage we have to worry about, prowl* ItsyBitsySpyers 8:33 pm *And get all that hair stuck in his throat? Ugh.* Bull 8:34 pm He, umm, doesn't speak through comms but directly *he taps his helm as if to convey what he meant* Specs 8:34 pm *she is small, but she is deadly. the bane of arthropods.* ItsyBitsySpyers 8:34 pm [[Vermin. Disgusting, infestation-loving, rapidly-breeding plagues upon existence.]] VProwl 8:34 pm What kind of vermin? ItsyBitsySpyers 8:34 pm [[You may know them as cockroaches.]] Rinky 8:34 pm -That's NOT helping!- Tarantulas 8:34 pm *tarantulas is currently a foot wide. can u eat a 12in spider, specs* Rinky 8:34 pm -shakes him a bit more- Prowl 8:34 pm What is a cockroach? Bob 8:35 pm IT IS A BUG FOUND ON THE EARTH HOME VProwl 8:35 pm *Prowl has a very vague conception of cockroaches. What he does know is "???????? Insects."* ItsyBitsySpyers 8:35 pm [[A nigh-unkillable Earth insect that enjoys taking up residence in electronic items and secreting vile substances capable of corroding and destroying them. As well as doing other... organic things, in them.]] Swoop 8:35 pm ((oh shit this is not a bob approved movie, is it? XD)) VProwl 8:35 pm *he immediately concludes that Soundwave is talking about some sort of Insecticon swarm and tenses.* What kind of threat? ItsyBitsySpyers 8:35 pm ((it absolutely is not)) Specs 8:35 pm *if she's careful about it, and if the spider wasn't made of metal. her usual modus operandi for the large ones is pulling the legs off, and then cracking the carapce open.* Bob 8:35 pm ((Not even a little)) Swoop 8:36 pm ((someone warn Sunstreaker that Bob has discovered xenomorphs XD)) Bull 8:36 pm *so much for a relaxing night* Rinky, shaking me is not gotta help anything. Prowl 8:36 pm Would anything from Earth really be able to survive here? Even... cockroaches? Bob 8:36 pm THE COCKROACH BUGGIES ARE VERY SMALL Tarantulas 8:36 pm @P: ::They're not a threat, they're simply a pest.:: Bob 8:36 pm THE CARLY FRIEND DOES NOT LIKE THEM VProwl 8:36 pm @T «He said he received a threat of vermin.» ItsyBitsySpyers 8:36 pm [[They have been introduced here and survived the visit before. It was horrible.]] Tarantulas 8:37 pm @P: ::He's exaggerating, though I'm not quite sure why.:: ItsyBitsySpyers 8:37 pm [[And your Carly friend is quite wise.]] Swoop 8:37 pm ((this is a bug hunt, man)) Bob 8:37 pm SHE DOES NOT LOOK WELL THE CARLY FRIEND IS VERY SMART. SHE WENT TO MIT VProwl 8:37 pm @T «How do you know? Were you listening in on whatever transmissions he received?» Rinky 8:37 pm -soft whine- I don't...!!!! Swoop 8:37 pm ((bob needs an appointed hand holder XD)) Bob 8:37 pm !!! *Slowly scooching closer to Sludge* Bull 8:38 pm *Thankfully Bull is too dealing with Rinky to notice what was on the screen* Sludge 8:38 pm Uhh. Tarantulas 8:38 pm @P: ::No, all I know is that cockroaches are completely harmless to mechanical life.:: Rinky 8:38 pm -trying to keep panic at being in a strange place down- VProwl 8:38 pm @T «That doesn't mean nobody threatened him with them. A threat to fill your home with harmless pests is still a threat.» Specs 8:39 pm *thump. thump. thump.* VProwl 8:39 pm @S «Who made the threat?» ItsyBitsySpyers 8:39 pm [[They can also cause dangerous overheating if they clog vents. Which was the threat. He was told over 38,000 would be put in his vents.]] @P: [[...That is irrelevant.]] *Because he's not about to tell Prowl it was the roaches themselves.* Bull 8:39 pm Magnum and I have always come back. It's safe here. *much safer than other places Silver Castle had been* Prowl 8:39 pm If you receive further threats, you can call for assistance, you know. VProwl 8:40 pm @S «That's not irrelevant in the slightest! Your life was threatened.» ItsyBitsySpyers 8:40 pm [[You just want an excuse to explore his building.]] @P: [[You would not believe him if he told you.]] Prowl 8:40 pm Hardly. Rinky 8:40 pm -He's never been to those other places- VProwl 8:40 pm @S «... Do you really think that low of me?» ItsyBitsySpyers 8:41 pm @P: [[No. He thinks the truth sounds that impossible to mechs who haven't seen what he's seen.]] Rinky 8:42 pm -just tightens his grip on Bull's arms- VProwl 8:42 pm @S «Impossible to someone who saw what I saw two weeks ago?» ItsyBitsySpyers 8:43 pm @P: [[You - haven't blocked that out?]] Smokescreen 8:43 pm Whoa Primus how much did I miss ItsyBitsySpyers 8:43 pm [[And you send Mirage here all the time. You'll forgive him if he doesn't trust your word.]] Tarantulas 8:43 pm *tarantulas HEARS that tail thumping. there's no denying that's the sound of an eager predator. didn't the dragon say she ate insects and - did she say spiders? damnit* VProwl 8:43 pm @S «What do you mean, blocked that— Do I seem like the kind of mech who blocks things out?» Prowl 8:43 pm Not very much, Smokescreen. Smokescreen 8:43 pm wait what Sludge 8:43 pm Them got firepower. 😄 Specs 8:43 pm *the dragon is the puffiest dragon. her eyes are dilated to hell. but she's Very Restrained about not jumping on Prowl and attacking* VProwl 8:44 pm @S «I want to know who threatened my amica.» Specs 8:44 pm *...this may not last* Rinky 8:44 pm -and now something clicks- Smokescreen 8:44 pm ... You're a Prowl, right? Rinky 8:44 pm Bull... ItsyBitsySpyers 8:44 pm *Ravage has nothing to do now that he's sniffed everyo-- damn. Smokescreen. He'll -definitely- sniff that one. It'd be like them to use him as a vessel.*

*...No, clear. Good. He'll go curl up by the dragon now. Predator pile.* Bull 8:44 pm Yes? ItsyBitsySpyers 8:44 pm *Not touching, of course, because aloof. But near.* Rinky 8:44 pm You and Magnum come to these every Monday night? Sludge 8:44 pm *he's not catching much from all this but he DID hear state of the art firepower* Smokescreen 8:44 pm .... /Hey what? He's opening his mouth, trying to sniff Ravage!/ Prowl 8:44 pm I am no longer Mirage's superior. If he's still here, it's his choice. Bull 8:45 pm Almost, missed a few recently. But we have been, Smokescreen 8:45 pm KITTY ItsyBitsySpyers 8:45 pm @P: [[..............The roaches.]] Rinky 8:45 pm .....is this why you two are always so tired Tuesday mornings? VProwl 8:45 pm @S «Yes. The person who sent the threat about the roaches.» Prowl 8:45 pm *not that it stops Mirage from telling her anything but she's not telling Soundwave that* Bob 8:45 pm SHE IS HAVING THE NIGHTMARES ItsyBitsySpyers 8:45 pm [[Arrest him, then. He's a trespasser. Maybe then he'll go to you when he needs assistance.]] Prowl 8:45 pm And yes, I am a Prowl. Bull 8:46 pm Sometimes. *Bull did admit. Some movie nights were more tiring than others. Depending on what happened* Tarantulas 8:46 pm *tarantulas rapidly crawls down off prowl's shoulder and into his lap, sizing up along the way. like hell is he getting eaten by an acquaintance and having to rip them from the inside out, he's done that already and as fun as it is, it definitely is a no-no* ItsyBitsySpyers 8:46 pm @P: [[No. You misunderstand. It was the roaches themselves. He - Primus. It is a long story.]] Smokescreen 8:46 pm /Smokescreen's looking around to see if he can see Tarantulas- he's been worried about him, and wants to make sure he's okay today!/ Prowl 8:47 pm *Prowl looks visibly conflicted about the idea of arresting Mirage* ItsyBitsySpyers 8:47 pm @T: (txt): Tarantulas: well? Specs 8:47 pm *that neatly and efficiently solves the problem of the dragon- even if she does nearly jump out of her skin. and promptly look EXTREMELY ABASHED. you can't see her, her tail is over her eyes.* VProwl 8:47 pm *Oh! He got his lap spider after all. He immediately wraps both hands around Tarantulas.* Rinky 8:47 pm .... ItsyBitsySpyers 8:47 pm *Soundwave's going to enjoy every moment of that visible conflict.* Tarantulas 8:48 pm *there. good. protected. he'll remain lap-spide as long as permitted* Smokescreen 8:48 pm /... He's not looking at Prowl long enough to notice Tarantulas there/ Hey Sounds, have you seen Messy recently? I've been a little worried about him. VProwl 8:48 pm *As if Prowl's letting him go. After the week they had?* ItsyBitsySpyers 8:48 pm [[He doesn't know any Messy.]] Rinky 8:48 pm ....so I'm not going to be telling Owner or Coach about this, am I? ItsyBitsySpyers 8:49 pm ((VASQUEEEEEZ)) Tarantulas 8:49 pm (( *SWEATS* Smokescreen 8:49 pm You know. Tarantulas? Bull 8:49 pm It's not recommended; can you imagine how they would react. Specs 8:49 pm ((vasquez is beautiful and I'm going to melt)) Bull 8:49 pm *Or how Magnum was gonna react knowing Rinky now knew about this place* VProwl 8:50 pm *No, his fingers are getting as deep into Tarantulas's fuzz as they can. It's proportionally shorter when Tarantulas is smaller. And denser. And finer. An entirely new texture. Amazing.* Rinky 8:50 pm But.... I don't... ItsyBitsySpyers 8:50 pm ((ugh i forgot this whole conversation, i woulda warned)) Smokescreen 8:50 pm .... OH I remember doing that kinda thing before Bob 8:51 pm !!! THAT WAS STRESSFUL Rinky 8:51 pm -he's not good at keeping secrets- Smokescreen 8:51 pm But Sounds- have you heard from Tarantulas at all? I'm kinda worried about him, he was really- anyway, have you heard anything? God or bad? good ItsyBitsySpyers 8:52 pm [[You could ask him yourself.]] Smokescreen 8:52 pm But he's not here. Bull 8:52 pm Just, please, don't say anything to anyone else. Only me and Magnum know of this place. ItsyBitsySpyers 8:52 pm [[So comm him.]] Rinky 8:52 pm ...are you seriously asking me to keep a secret from Silkie? VProwl 8:53 pm *Tarantulas is getting a hell of a massage.* Bull 8:53 pm *The last thing he needed with Top Joy finding out* Smokescreen 8:53 pm ... I figured if he wasn't here, he wanted to be left alone. Tarantulas 8:53 pm *GOOD. best massage* ItsyBitsySpyers 8:53 pm *Is vaguely relieved Prowl hasn't questioned him beyond the long story comment. And not surprised that his own Prowl hasn't made up her mind about Mirage. Will mostly focus on the film.* VProwl 8:53 pm ((oh right i forgot to continue that conversation)) Prowl 8:53 pm ((lol ItsyBitsySpyers 8:54 pm ((HECK)) VProwl 8:54 pm ((THAT WASN'T ON PURPOSE)) Bull 8:54 pm *Oh Silkie... he really didn't want him knowing* Yes... I know that's hard but Magnum doesn't want anyone else to know either. Bob 8:54 pm ((pfft)) ItsyBitsySpyers 8:55 pm *Such an efficient organic. <3 The tiniest, softest, near inaudible puff of a sigh.* Rinky 8:55 pm /How!?/ Rinky 8:55 pm -hope Bulls still has hold of his arms, or there would be more wild flailing- VProwl 8:56 pm @S «... The roaches themselves threatened you.» Smokescreen 8:56 pm /In any case, he's gonna sit next to the Prowl that looks like he's from his kind of universe!/ ItsyBitsySpyers 8:57 pm *Damn.*

@P: [[He did tell you it was almost impossible to believe.]] VProwl 8:57 pm @S «......... I wasn't aware any beings on Earth were capable of intelligent thought and speech besides humans and penguins.» Bull 8:57 pm Everyone else is busy, worried about Jurota and that mess. No one is gonna be asking about where we went and if they do I'll answer. Prowl 8:57 pm *nods to the new addition to her otherwise empty table* Rinky 8:59 pm Well, yeah, that mess...is a bit distracting, but you know Silkie has a long memory, and he's not gonna let it drop, and I'm terrible at lying ItsyBitsySpyers 9:00 pm *And peng--? He's not going to ask. He'll ask that later.*

@P: [[He does not know what humans consider them to be, but he can understand them. A curse from some time ago, not so different from the - from the eldritch fruit. He was temporarily made their... er. Royalty.]] *Slight armor clamp.* [[And given the ability to understand them. They haven't forgotten.]]

[[They've found him and woken him up at night. They've brought him GIFTS, Prowl. A lava lamp, once.]] VProwl 9:01 pm @S «... They regard you as royalty? As /royalty/? They bring you /gifts/?» Bull 9:01 pm Hopefully he'll wait until Magnum's back... he's better at keeping things a secret than I am. ItsyBitsySpyers 9:01 pm @P: [[Do you want the footage? He can give it to you. He'll hand it to you right now.]] VProwl 9:02 pm @S «Later.» *right now there's a movie on.* «If they consider you royalty, why are they threatening to kill you?» Smokescreen 9:02 pm Hey- I don't think I've seen your face around here before, Prowl. What's your universe like? Am I there? What kinda stuff do you do? You want a snack? VProwl 9:02 pm *he keeps hearing Smokescreen say his name and he Hates it. His alternate has his sympathy/pity.* ItsyBitsySpyers 9:02 pm @P: [[They want to nest in him. He doesn't - he doesn't know if they understand what that will do. Maybe they do. Earth insects are odd.]] Rinky 9:02 pm Hopefully...I really don't want to try lying to his face... Specs 9:03 pm *there are dragon-made snacks. they're very good. everyone should try some.* Bob 9:03 pm *perks* VProwl 9:03 pm @S «... Well you're their royalty, why don't you tell them nesting in you would be fatal and you won't allow it?» Specs 9:03 pm *or, they're her usual quality. your mileage may vary- she bakes to Soundwave and Crew's tastes* ItsyBitsySpyers 9:03 pm @P: [[Because then it would give them an idea if they want to depose him?]] *...He resists the urge to facepalm. He can't believe he said that.* Smokescreen 9:03 pm /He WAS thinking of asking boxier Prowl about Tarantulas- but he thought it'd be a bad idea and didn't want to make things more complicated!/ VProwl 9:04 pm @S «Then why don't you just tell them you'd hate it and you would rather they nest elsewhere?» ItsyBitsySpyers 9:04 pm *.......................................*

@P: [[..................Because he hadn't thought of it.]] VProwl 9:05 pm @S «... Well. There you go.» Bull 9:05 pm Yeah. I don't blame you on that. Specs 9:05 pm ((honestly, god bless Prowl and Soundwave's entire relationship and also selves. you two are gr8)) Prowl 9:05 pm *the corners of her mouth tighten* I am from this universe. Your alternate does exist here. I am the police commissioner for New Praxus. *she doesn't trust any food from anyone in this building* No. VProwl 9:05 pm ((aw thanks ;v;)) ItsyBitsySpyers 9:06 pm (("I'm dating a spider and a member of roach royalty. ... Yeah, okay.")) VProwl 9:06 pm *hold up. HOLD UP. prowl has just realized he can lace his fingers between Tarantulas's legs and it's like holding hands with him. he's gonna try it. carefully. his legs are probably very delicate at this size.* ItsyBitsySpyers 9:06 pm *Soundwave will try telling the roaches that AFTER the movie. They're into The Best Part now.* Smokescreen 9:07 pm Oh? Wait, from this one? Like, with Sounds over there? Cool! I was in this universe for a little while- it's not too bad. I'm from a similar universe, but we don't have a New Praxus yet- I'll probably have to talk to the bot that's in charge about that soon. ItsyBitsySpyers 9:07 pm *He slowly loosens up again and leans forward, lacing his fingers together and resting his chin on them.* Smokescreen 9:07 pm And fair enough! More for me. /Stuffing his face!/ Rinky 9:07 pm ...I'm just surprised he hasn't gone after you two yet. ItsyBitsySpyers 9:08 pm [[Oh, don't be paranoid. He serves hundreds of mechs every weekend and nearly a dozen every Monday and none of them have died from consuming fuel here.]] Bull 9:08 pm I think he tried to get Magnum but you know how he is. ItsyBitsySpyers 9:08 pm [[A few have perished from natural causes elsewhere, or the wars they're still in, or on one occasion, wandering into the canyon when he told them it was metallipede season, but none of those things are his fault.]] Rinky 9:09 pm Slippery as an eel when he wants to be? Bull 9:09 pm Heh, that's a good way to put it. Specs 9:09 pm *the dragon looks at Other Prowl, clearly (in dragon body language) hurt and offended* I wouldn't poison anything I gave to friends. That would be- that would be unthinkable. ItsyBitsySpyers 9:10 pm *Acid for blood. <3 Which reminds him of what Prowl said, about his acid defense systems and whatnot. What a good amica. <3 * Tarantulas 9:10 pm *legs n fingers are laced!!! at first tarantulas freaks out a little and tries to wiggle free since he's being immobilized, but he settles down soon enough. it's basically handholding rite* Rinky 9:10 pm That explains why Silky was so frustrated that day. VProwl 9:12 pm *if he tries to wiggle free, Prowl will let him go; but if he calms down before Prowl can separate them, Prowl's staying.* ItsyBitsySpyers 9:12 pm [[They captured so many. Not bad, for colonists.]] Specs 9:13 pm And here we have a testament to bad ideas. *snarky dragon commentary is subdued- she's still SERIOUSLY hurt by Other Prowl's comment* Prowl 9:13 pm Praxus was only chosen for development because we already had a community there. Smokescreen 9:13 pm ... Hey, also, Sounds. Since I didn't get the chance to say this in-person, sorry for thinking you were the one that fragged with my helm last week. You're pretty good for a not-friend. SOUNDWAVE HAS FALLEN I ItsyBitsySpyers 9:14 pm [[You're forgiven. And... thank you.]] Smokescreen 9:14 pm Fair enough! I guess I haven't checked if Praxus has a community here at all- with everything else happening, I haven't had the chance to. Prowl 9:15 pm I am not worried about dying from consuming anything here. I'm worried about being served the same thing you gave to Elita. VProwl 9:15 pm *his thumbs are still free. ... rubs his thumbs on tarantula's back.* Smokescreen 9:15 pm .... Wait, to Elita? Tarantulas 9:15 pm *clicks and churrs* Specs 9:15 pm *pfff. human deserved that. has teeth, will bite* VProwl 9:15 pm *oh! does it more.* ItsyBitsySpyers 9:16 pm [[A Gaugebuster? And have you invent a reason to arrest him?]] [[You can stick to the regular fuel like everyone else.]] Prowl 9:17 pm *scowls* I don't need to invent reasons. Rinky 9:17 pm ...... ItsyBitsySpyers 9:17 pm *That poor youngling.*

[[Ravage has found a few living in the Underworld like this one has done. They do not all find their way out of the Well so easily.]] Smokescreen 9:17 pm ... Wait what did Sounds do this time ItsyBitsySpyers 9:17 pm [[He hasn't done ANYTHING.]] Prowl 9:17 pm Nothing. *yet* Rinky 9:17 pm ...um...Bull? Smokescreen 9:17 pm Oh... Dang, I was hoping for a story Bull 9:17 pm yeah? Specs 9:18 pm *the docents usually find it easier to manage children with snacks and music* VProwl 9:18 pm *no change on the outside. but on the inside, his hackles are slowly rising.* Smokescreen 9:18 pm You know- one time, he shocked me to recharge so much, my optics fragged up. Rinky 9:18 pm I think we missed most of the movie? VProwl 9:18 pm *threaten HIS amica why don't you.* ItsyBitsySpyers 9:18 pm [[You asked him to do it. Don't invent troubles for him.]] Bull 9:19 pm At least a good bit; but we can see how the rest goes. Prowl 9:19 pm ... Tarantulas 9:19 pm *tarantulas is still making happy spide noises. just pay attention to that, vprowl* ItsyBitsySpyers 9:19 pm *Has been listing to Bull and the other one for a while now; decides to pipe up at them.*

[[He can provide you both a summary if you require one.]] Smokescreen 9:19 pm I asked you to do it again last night, but you already went to recharge. VProwl 9:19 pm *he'll try. he keeps petting.* ItsyBitsySpyers 9:19 pm [[Then why are you presenting the matter like a complaint?]] Rinky 9:20 pm -nearly jumps out of his plating at that- Smokescreen 9:20 pm ... I was looking for some reason you might be in trouble? That's the only thing off the top of my head though Bull 9:20 pm Easy Rinky; that's just Soundwave again. Rinky 9:20 pm ....I don't know how you're used to that... Prowl 9:21 pm If you consented to it, there's nothing criminal about it. Bull 9:21 pm You get use to it, eventually. Tarantulas 9:21 pm *dissection!!! yaaay* Bob 9:21 pm *Dissection, noooooo* ItsyBitsySpyers 9:21 pm *Ha. For once, his own Prowl is on his side. It's. It's a weird feeling.* *He's not sure he likes it.* Specs 9:21 pm *the horrible paradox between "delicious bug" and "made of acid"* Bob 9:21 pm *Bob has been hunkered down, staring wide opticed at the screen this entire time* ItsyBitsySpyers 9:21 pm *...He's going to lean on the one he's dating to get rid of the feeling. And also because Soundwave likes him.* Smokescreen 9:21 pm Yeah! I figured! Still. What IS he in trouble for? Too noisy? ItsyBitsySpyers 9:21 pm ((i saw that lmao)) Specs 9:21 pm ((prowl?)) Bob 9:21 pm ((I'm tired and wires crossed XD)) Smokescreen 9:22 pm ... Is terrorizing a bot with feelers a crime? VProwl 9:22 pm *slightly leans back.* Prowl 9:22 pm Are you trying to get him arrested? Smokescreen 9:22 pm No? Just curious! Rinky 9:23 pm -skeptical look at Bull- Says you ItsyBitsySpyers 9:23 pm *Where's Swoop when you need him to punch someone?* Specs 9:23 pm It's rude to be bigoted, but I've never really heard of it being called criminal. *she'll fight Other Prowl for you, Soundwave* Bob 9:23 pm *GOOD QUESTION* ItsyBitsySpyers 9:23 pm *Soundwave sits up and looks at the dragon.* [[Excuse you. Did you just insult him?]] Prowl 9:23 pm If you'd like a copy of the city's laws, I'm happy to forward them to you. Smokescreen 9:24 pm You know? Sure! Might be good for reference for what we've got for my Cybertron. ItsyBitsySpyers 9:24 pm [[Those laws do not apply to this part of Cybertron and you know it. You have no jurisdiction here and you never have.]] *That was why he built out here in the first place.* Specs 9:24 pm *the dragon blinks, confused* No? It's rude to be terrorizing people for having feelers. Why would that be an insult? ((OH SHIT. MISREAD.)) Smokescreen 9:24 pm I don't actually know what laws are in place by Megatron anyway. ItsyBitsySpyers 9:24 pm ((keep it, this is a funnier misunderstanding)) Prowl 9:24 pm *ping ping Smokescreen, hope you enjoy reading because Prowl helped write them* Specs 9:24 pm ((whoops. keeping that, yeah. it's hilarious.)) Smokescreen 9:25 pm /Oh Primus that's a lot/ VProwl 9:25 pm ((i read it as terrorizing a bot-with-feelers)) ((not using feelers to terrorize a bot)) Specs 9:25 pm ((yeah, prowl gets it)) ItsyBitsySpyers 9:25 pm *Soundwave settles back into his intrigued watch of the movie, satisfied.* [[He sees. Carry on, dragon. Extra cushion next week.]] VProwl 9:25 pm ((it took me til now to realize that was what it was supposed to be)) ItsyBitsySpyers 9:25 pm =Pulses.= *Ravage snort laughs.* Specs 9:25 pm *the dragon perks up, heart attack averted* O-oh! Thank you, Soundwave. *chirps happily. the happiest dragon is she* Smokescreen 9:26 pm But yeah- seriously, Sounds. For all your lying and slag, you're actually a pretty good not-friend, and I was gonna ask if you could help me with something for my Cybertron, but I know Megs would probably shoot down the idea. Prowl 9:26 pm And yes, I'm aware that Dancitron is not in my jurisdiction and New Praxus laws do not apply. ItsyBitsySpyers 9:27 pm *...Curious perk.* [[What is it?]] Smokescreen 9:27 pm I mean- it's not worth getting you more curious. Like I said- Megs would probably HATE everything about the idea if it got too far. ItsyBitsySpyers 9:27 pm [[That's why he's interested.]] Smokescreen 9:28 pm ... I'll ping you. But. Hypothetically, if you wanted to help search these coordinates for different relics- you know. That kinda thing. ItsyBitsySpyers 9:28 pm [[...Hypothetically, excellent. But he'll wait for that ping.]] Rinky 9:28 pm -curious stare at the screen-....ew Smokescreen 9:28 pm @Soundwave: ::Allspark.:: Prowl 9:28 pm *wait wait, she turns her helm in Smokescreen's direction* Megatron? ItsyBitsySpyers 9:29 pm *And there's his biolights pulsing once. That is some major approval.* Bull 9:29 pm *Bull has an idea what type of movie this is and braces for a jumpy lavender* ItsyBitsySpyers 9:29 pm @Smokescreen: [[You have his interest. Send him more details later.]] Smokescreen 9:29 pm ... Yeah. I know it sounds weird, Prowl. He took over my Cybertron and stuff. I'm making the best of it? And I can't like... Overthrow him on my own, so I'm sticking close to make sure he doesn't ruin everything. Rinky 9:29 pm -good thing, Rinky is up in Bull's personal space now- Bob 9:29 pm !!!!!!!!!! *hunkering down* *flattest bug* ItsyBitsySpyers 9:30 pm *...They pulse again. Nobody mind that, please.* Bob 9:30 pm *Becoming one with the floor* Specs 9:30 pm *and her tail's over her eyes. jump scares do not sit well with this dragon* Rinky 9:30 pm -nopenopenopenope- Smokescreen 9:30 pm @Soundwave: ::Awesome! But I'm really not sure if it'd pull through. I mean, Megatron would probably fight you before he'd let you help. But I think you'd be a great help for something like this.:: Bull 9:30 pm *thankfully Rinky his keeping him from jumping* VProwl 9:30 pm *minds it.* ItsyBitsySpyers 9:30 pm *Damn it.* VProwl 9:30 pm ((did the sound just go really quiet?)) Bob 9:30 pm *Distreeeeessed* ItsyBitsySpyers 9:30 pm ((... it did. hold on)) VProwl 9:31 pm ((the sound effects are suddenly louder than the dialogue)) ItsyBitsySpyers 9:31 pm ((i hate to pause but one sec)) ((fuck. right at a tense point. lemme try to fix this)) Rinky 9:32 pm -hope Bull doesn't mind him clinging to him- Specs 9:32 pm ((yeah, it did for me too)) Prowl 9:33 pm Megatron took over--then Optimus was killed in your universe as well. ItsyBitsySpyers 9:33 pm ((gdit. i'm sorry ya'll gimme a minute)) Smokescreen 9:34 pm Yeah... We had Cybertron for a while, but then Megatron somehow came back to life and offlined him. I was in Sound's universe for a while, but- but I don't want his mistakes to cost me my home, you know? VProwl 9:34 pm *unlaces fingers and settles hands lightly on top of Tarantulas* @T «Would it be inconvenient for you to, roughly, triple your current size?» ItsyBitsySpyers 9:35 pm [["His mistakes"?]] Smokescreen 9:35 pm Megatron's. Prowl 9:36 pm What happened to the rest of the Autobots besides you? Smokescreen 9:36 pm You know. Offlining Optimus- and I didn't want him to throw dark energon into the allspark again or anything. Tarantulas 9:36 pm *peers up at prowl with a few optics* @P: ::Nnnnno? It might reveal my presence, but if it's what you'd like - ?:: Prowl 9:36 pm *shudders at the thought* ItsyBitsySpyers 9:36 pm ((FRICK.)) Smokescreen 9:37 pm ... I'm not really sure. Some of them stayed here, I think, like Arcee? I know a few of them are still on Earth in my universe, though. Like the different Rescue Bots? I don't know what to tell them, though- they're happy now, and I don't want to take that away from them. ItsyBitsySpyers 9:37 pm ((i hate this but i'm going to have to ask everyone to leave and come back in five minutes so i can refresh the whole damn room)) Specs 9:37 pm ((understood <3 )) Prowl 9:37 pm ((np Rinky 9:37 pm ((kaaaay Bull 9:37 pm ((ok Smokescreen 9:37 pm ((Got it! ItsyBitsySpyers 9:37 pm ((prowl mun can you grab the log real quick)) VProwl 9:37 pm ((i'm gonna stick til last so i can grab the log once everyone's gone, then i'll go)) Prowl 9:38 pm ((I'll copy Smokescreen's last reply so I can reply when we come back ItsyBitsySpyers 9:39 pm ((yo wily can you pull off for a couple minutes so i can refresh)) ((eh just grab the log now i have to redo it))

ItsyBitsySpyers 9:46 pm ((i'm gonna reblog the thing to let people know it should be fine to come back)) Specs 9:46 pm ((kay)) ItsyBitsySpyers 9:47 pm ((i don't have skype/discord open rn so if y'all know who all was here on there give 'em a holler too)) Smokescreen 9:49 pm ((asdvbnm i was just abouot to send to tara on discord and then ItsyBitsySpyers 9:49 pm ((we're missing bob aaaaand i think sludge? is mun still awake?)) VProwl 9:50 pm @T «... Do you want to stay hidden?» *just gonna. subtly. cover tarantulas with his hands and forearms and slllide him closer to his abdomen. his boob will shield you.* «Who are you hiding from?» ((sludgemun went to bed)) ItsyBitsySpyers 9:51 pm ((k lemme try to get bob back in)) ((and i think that'll be everyone)) Tarantulas 9:52 pm (( i'm alive!!! just. managing the new Council of Prowl-Admirers Prowl 9:52 pm ((shoot, my copy didn't work, what did Smokescreen say before we all left? ItsyBitsySpyers 9:52 pm ((i'll wait two more minutes and then start)) Prowl 9:52 pm ((omg how many more Prowl admirers are there? Tarantulas 9:53 pm (( we're six total atm VProwl 9:53 pm ((smokescreen: "... I'm not really sure. Some of them stayed here, I think, like Arcee? I know a few of them are still on Earth in my universe, though. Like the different Rescue Bots? I don't know what to tell them, though- they're happy now, and I don't want to take that away from them.")) ItsyBitsySpyers 9:53 pm ((okay they need to sleep so we're gonna get going)) Rinky 9:53 pm ....... Smokescreen 9:53 pm .......... Prowl 9:54 pm ((ty Puff ItsyBitsySpyers 9:54 pm ((can i get a repeat on smokescreen's last one to soundwave?)) Smokescreen 9:54 pm ((asdvbnmvcx i completely forgot the stuff i wrote Tarantulas 9:54 pm @P: ::Everyone and no one in particular. I'm - exhausted, socially speaking.:: *cuddles in close, sizes up a bit to please prowl* VProwl 9:55 pm ((smokescreen: @Soundwave: ::Awesome! But I'm really not sure if it'd pull through. I mean, Megatron would probably fight you before he'd let you help. But I think you'd be a great help for something like this.::)) ItsyBitsySpyers 9:55 pm ((thank you)) @Smokescreen: [[He will fight Megatron if that is what it takes.]] *So stealthy. Masters of their hive environment.* Rinky 9:55 pm -Don't mind Rinky, Bull. He's clinging now- Smokescreen 9:56 pm @Soundwave: ::I mean, I'd pay to see that, but- you really want to help that much?:: ItsyBitsySpyers 9:56 pm @Smokescreen: [[It is the Allspark. It must be returned to Cybertron if the planet is to flourish - and not be corrupted on the way.]] VProwl 9:56 pm *... slowly leans forward, with his arms crossed and propped on his knees, as though fascinated by the movie.* ItsyBitsySpyers 9:56 pm [[And this is why one does not put a rookie in charge of such a dangerous mission.]] Windchill 9:56 pm *Windchill wanders in late, for secret reasons.* VProwl 9:57 pm *actually shielding tarantulas better.* Bull 9:57 pm *Bull is also clinging to Rinky; not liking the monsters on screen* Smokescreen 9:57 pm @Soundwave: ::True! I didn't think you cared about my Cybertron that much. Thank you, Sounds- have you already found your allspark?:: Hey! Sounds, come on. Some rookies pull through. Prowl 9:57 pm At least they're alive, though I don't understand why none of them have tried to do anything. *she couldn't imagine the Autobots just letting Megatron take over* Tarantulas 9:57 pm *wiggles a little. spide is happ* Windchill 9:58 pm *There's more than one Prowl. His plating feels gross already.* Smokescreen 9:58 pm Megatron offlined Optimus in front of us, and we all went into hiding, or- the multiverse was there. We didn't have to stay. ItsyBitsySpyers 9:58 pm [[Rarely.]]

@Smokescreen: [[What you don't know about the things he cares about could fill the Iacon Hall of Records. And we restored ours years ago. That is why we have newbuilds.]] Windchill 9:58 pm *Still, that's not enough to deter him from sitting down, as he is stubborn.* ItsyBitsySpyers 9:58 pm *Ravage grumpily uncurls from his spot by the dragon and goes over to sniff Windchill for roaches.* Windchill 9:58 pm *Raises a brow.* Rinky 9:58 pm Idon'tlikethismoviemuch Windchill 9:58 pm *He might smell kind of like roaches.* *For secret reasons.* Specs 9:58 pm *the dragon will peek out from under her tail to ensure that no one steals Ravage's spot while he's busy* Windchill 9:59 pm Am I smelly? ItsyBitsySpyers 9:59 pm *Ravage growls and bristles a little.*

=You. You harbor roaches?= Windchill 9:59 pm ...Roaches? Bull 9:59 pm I hate the scary ones... Smokescreen 9:59 pm @Soundwave: ::... The Hall of Records, huh? Well, what else do you care about that I ought to know? And that's good! I wasn't sure- but I'm glad to hear that. Have you seen those documentaries where Unicron kinda comes back while they're getting the allspark? You think we'll be okay if that happens, right?:: Windchill 9:59 pm *He's never even seen a roach in person.* Prowl 10:00 pm So many of them just left the universe entirely? Smokescreen 10:00 pm ... you know, those xenomorphs are kinda ItsyBitsySpyers 10:00 pm =Small Earth pest. Infestation threat.= Rinky 10:00 pm -small whine- I'm going to have nightmares Windchill 10:00 pm I know what a roach is. I don't know why that's even a question. ItsyBitsySpyers 10:01 pm =You smell of them.= Smokescreen 10:01 pm I think- I think a bunch of them. Most of them. Ratchet might be on Earth? Same for Bee and Bulk, but everyone else? We pretty much ran as soon as we could to hide- since that's basically what happened last time. VProwl 10:01 pm *okay, there's a whining Earthling.* @S «Can you do something for the Earthlings? The new one sounds distressed. I'd go but I'm hiding Tarantulas.» Bull 10:01 pm Your not the only one *bull is noping* ItsyBitsySpyers 10:01 pm *Soundwave pings Bull a reminder of the offer to go upstairs.* Windchill 10:01 pm Do I? *he crooks a talon to tap his chin.* Specs 10:01 pm Smokescreen. If you finish that sentence about the xenomorphs in the way I am afraid you are going to, I will find a way to bite you and make it hurt. ItsyBitsySpyers 10:01 pm ((mun is eating to take pills and will be slow)) Windchill 10:01 pm Is it just my feet or all of me? VProwl 10:01 pm ((o7)) Smokescreen 10:02 pm I'm not finishing that sentence! Trust me. I don't need to be judged any more than I already am Bull 10:02 pm Soundwave just pinged me that we can go upstairs if you want. No scary movie up there Rinky 10:02 pm That...sounds like a better idea Can we go now? ItsyBitsySpyers 10:03 pm @Smokescreen: [[He's seen them. If it happens... we will just have to deal with it and try our best.]]

=What do you think.= Windchill 10:03 pm I don't know, I'm not interested in smelling my own feet to find out. Smokescreen 10:04 pm @Soundwave: ::But- that's not a guarantee! You know. Megatron'll be there. Are you sure you'd be able to hold him off if Unicron controlled him? What do you think would be the best thing to do if that happened?:: Prowl 10:04 pm Then it's good at least one Autobot remains on your planet. Windchill 10:04 pm Regardless, there's one of...twoooo explanations. Either I stepped on some roaches or it's a beetle smell. Take your pick. ItsyBitsySpyers 10:04 pm =...Beetle smell?= Smokescreen 10:05 pm ... One good Autobot? Bull 10:05 pm Yeah *Bull leads Rinky to the 'safer' room* Windchill 10:05 pm Beetle smell...for secret reasons. Smokescreen 10:05 pm There's a bot that came more recently- she almost assassinated Megatron, but we're friends! Specs 10:05 pm *looks over at Windchill* The worm's relatives? ItsyBitsySpyers 10:05 pm *Soundwave will seal the door behind them to everyone else; they will have no trouble leaving it themselves.* Windchill 10:06 pm *Sighs.* Rinky 10:06 pm -much better, they got out of this movie before this went down- Windchill 10:06 pm Her carrier. Specs 10:07 pm *she recalled Windchill saying the worm was an insecticon, so this does not surprise her* ItsyBitsySpyers 10:07 pm @Smokey: [[He isn't sure. In his own world, he was only the second best gladiator in the Pits. Megatron was the first. But Megatron is weaker now, and - and he has contingency plans. Unpleasant ones. But plans. He cannot share them with you at this time.]] Windchill 10:08 pm That's as much as you lot need or want to know. Prowl 10:08 pm Then I suppose that makes two. Good luck to you both. ItsyBitsySpyers 10:08 pm =Ah.= *Ravage nods. He'll go back to the dragon then. A single roach comes out of Windchill and he's going into a sun, though.* Windchill 10:08 pm *At least warn him first, murdering someone over a roach seems a bit excessive.* Specs 10:09 pm *the dragon would have put her tail back over her eyes, but there's more talking than intestines on screen, so she'll rest her chin on her tail instead* Smokescreen 10:10 pm @Soundwave: ::Wait, you can't share? Soundwave- if you share them, I can make sure we can prepare for them, just in case. I don't want you to have to risk your life for my universe if there's another way.:: ... You really think I'm a good Autobot? Thank you, Prowl. ItsyBitsySpyers 10:11 pm @Smokescreen: [[...He can't share.]] *It's not something he wants anyone else to know.* [[But if you want to prepare, yourself... know where all the other relics are, and how to quickly get hold of them. Especially the Matrix.]] Windchill 10:12 pm *Wrinkles his entire face like a wet paper bag at what's either a lab or a medical bay, maybe both.* *He does that every time he watches this movie.* Windchill 10:13 pm I hope to die. Prowl 10:13 pm You could have left your Cybertron permanently and you didn't. Smokescreen 10:14 pm @Soundwave: ::... If you say so. Wait, does this plan involve the matrix somehow? You aren't thinking about taking it or anything, right? Megatron has it right now, but- but I'm kinda reluctant to touch it, myself.:: Specs 10:14 pm *aw, docent-charge bonding. so cute.* Smokescreen 10:14 pm I mean, that's normal, right? You wouldn't leave yours, even if the worst happened, right? Tarantulas 10:14 pm *egg* ItsyBitsySpyers 10:15 pm @Smokey: [[He cannot take it himself. But if you have to touch it and transport it, you will. And you will not argue about it. We will not have time for that.]] *Pulse.* Windchill 10:15 pm *Snorts* VProwl 10:15 pm *that was definitely an egg pulse.* Tarantulas 10:15 pm *pings sw, clearly amused* ItsyBitsySpyers 10:15 pm *...Wellllllll...* @T: (txt): Silence, blackmailer. Prowl 10:16 pm I've fought for Cybertron my entire life. ItsyBitsySpyers 10:16 pm [[She's such a delightful human.]] VProwl 10:17 pm She should wait to threaten him until they're AWAY from the place where people can easily and quickly die and it can be blamed on aliens. Tarantulas 10:17 pm @SW: ::It's not blackmail if it's never used against you, don't you think?:: Specs 10:17 pm ((I have an exam tomorrow, so I've gotta pass out. thanks for everything!)) ItsyBitsySpyers 10:17 pm ((awwwwww)) Tarantulas 10:17 pm (( alas ;A; night! Specs 10:17 pm ((you guys are the best. <3 )) Prowl 10:17 pm ((sleep well, specs Smokescreen 10:18 pm @Soundwave: ::But if I touch it- Sounds. I don't need it to start glowing and stuff again. ... If we have to, I will do whatever I have to. But I hope it doesn't happen. I hpe everything will be okay. Do you think there's any way to make sure Megatron gets rid of the dark energon before we go? Or to just... Lock him somewhere that Unicron wouldn't be able to escape?:: ItsyBitsySpyers 10:18 pm [[That is true. Still. Her anger is well-targeted.]]

@T: (txt): Technicality.

((sleep well specs!)) @Smokey: [[We could terminate him.]] Windchill 10:18 pm That man says man almost as much as I do, man. VProwl 10:18 pm Well-targeted but badly-timed. The fact that it's justified doesn't mean it's smart. ItsyBitsySpyers 10:18 pm *Huffs at Windchill.* [[No, of course not.]] Windchill 10:19 pm You're just jealous, man. Smokescreen 10:19 pm @Soundwave: ::I'm not offlining Megatron. We JUST got peace- doing that could cause so many other problems.:: Windchill 10:19 pm I hate this part, man. ItsyBitsySpyers 10:20 pm @Smokey: [[Then for now, attempt to convince him to seek to be cleared of his corruption, and if need be... peace or not, a threat like the one from the other timelines cannot be allowed to exist.]] [[What's wrong with this part?]] Windchill 10:21 pm Crawling through a tunnel like that, that's what. ItsyBitsySpyers 10:21 pm [[Claustrophobic, are we?]] Windchill 10:22 pm I've only said that I was more times than I can count. *Which isn't saying much, shhh.* My spark would forcibly leave my frame if that were me. I'd be so dead. ItsyBitsySpyers 10:23 pm [[Well. We know how to stop you if you're ever tainted with dark energon, then.]] Windchill 10:23 pm You don't even know. ItsyBitsySpyers 10:23 pm [[We'll simply bury you alive in a box.]] Smokescreen 10:23 pm @Soundwave: ::I'll keep trying. Trust me. I've been trying. But- maybe it'll be different? After all, it's not like Unicron revived him, like he did with the other Megatrons. His hold will probably be weaker, right? ... And do you remember that party you had a long time ago, where Unicron came and gave me dark energon? Megatron was able to beat Unicron's orders then.:: Windchill 10:23 pm I've never been stopped before. Please be gentle, it's my first time. ItsyBitsySpyers 10:23 pm [[Ugh.]] Windchill 10:23 pm That's what you get. ItsyBitsySpyers 10:24 pm @Smokey: [[Megatron's physical resistance is still lessened. He does not know what difference that will make, if any. And that was long ago. Megatron has been under its continued influence since then. He may no longer be able to resist.]] Windchill 10:24 pm *He's glad he already knows how this goes, else he'd have up and left already.* ItsyBitsySpyers 10:24 pm *Nods to Prowl. You were right.* *He already knew that, of course, but it never hurts to acknowledge a smart comment.* VProwl 10:25 pm *small nod back.* Prowl 10:26 pm ((shockwave toy! VProwl 10:27 pm ... Clever. Smokescreen 10:27 pm @Soundwave: ::That's true. I hope nothing comes from it- that he'll be able to manage it, but if there's really nothing he can do- that we can do- we can definitely offline him. But I really hope it doesn't come to that:: Windchill 10:27 pm Nice. Man. VProwl 10:28 pm @T «... For the record, I don't consider that to be an appropriate seduction move.» *just in case he gets any ideas from looking at a spidery-looking thing jumping at someone's mouth.* Tarantulas 10:29 pm *freezes* @P: ::Wh-which? The face attack?:: VProwl 10:29 pm @T «The face attack.» *... belated humor ping?* Tarantulas 10:30 pm *is still a bit tense in general since events, don't mind him* Windchill 10:30 pm Gotta watch for those embryos, man. VProwl 10:30 pm *he can feel tarantulas tensing up under him. sorry. shifts one hand around to pet tarantulas?* Tarantulas 10:31 pm @P: ::I wouldn't use it as a starting move, no.:: *the humor's back now* VProwl 10:31 pm *... to anyone else it probably looks like prowl's hunched over to shield the fact that he's patting vaguely in the area of his own groin. he's ~blissfully unaware.~* @T «Oh, I see. So after you've warmed me up a bit.» Prowl 10:32 pm *it's probably good Prowl can't see the other Prowl* Smokescreen 10:32 pm ... /He does take a glance in Soundwave's direction while they're having their conversation, and thus in Prowl's direction as well. Is Prowl- he couldn't be doing that to THIS movie, right?/ Windchill 10:32 pm Why would you stick your head up there, man. VProwl 10:33 pm *on the other hand he's got an Absolutely Perfect Poker Face on, so* Windchill 10:33 pm Asshole. Man. Smokescreen 10:33 pm /He just assumes that's how Prowl is, even if he were doing such activities. He feels like he's learned more than he ever wanted to about the bot./ Windchill 10:33 pm *Almost forgot that time.* ItsyBitsySpyers 10:33 pm *Soundwave has been so focused on his perfect organic murder machines that he has had NO idea what's been going on around him, implication wise.* ((aka mun was afk)) Tarantulas 10:34 pm *just snickering across the comms@prowl. he's pretty intent on watching the movie* Windchill 10:34 pm He's a goner, man. VProwl 10:34 pm *all right, tarantulas is probably sufficiently soothed. he re-shields him.* Prowl 10:34 pm *satisfied there won't be more questions from Smokescreen, Prowl puts her full attention on the movie* ItsyBitsySpyers 10:34 pm *Looks away during the welding in time to miss all of it.* VProwl 10:35 pm *~still blissfully unaware~* ItsyBitsySpyers 10:35 pm [[Ah, comeuppance.]] Windchill 10:35 pm Another tunnel, man. I hate it. *Makes some gross regurgitation sounds for effect.* ItsyBitsySpyers 10:35 pm [[NOT ON HIS FLOOR.]] Rinky 10:36 pm ((all over the floor Windchill 10:36 pm What about your ceiling, man? *Gags violently.* ItsyBitsySpyers 10:37 pm [[Nowhere in this building!]]

*WIndchill's about to find himself bridged just outside.* Windchill 10:37 pm If you say so, man. *Is suddenly and miraculously recovered from his vomiting fit. How mysterious.* ItsyBitsySpyers 10:37 pm *Good.* Smokescreen 10:38 pm ... By the way, Sounds. If something WERE to happen to my Cybertron and it really did get destroyed or anything- would I be welcome to stay in your universe again? I mean, hopefully it won't come to that, but still. ItsyBitsySpyers 10:38 pm [[...If it came to that.]] [[He would prefer to hope it doesn't.]] Windchill 10:38 pm Useless children are my favourite, man. Smokescreen 10:39 pm ... Thanks, Sounds. But- but I'm sure everything'll be fine! I still have like, a million things I want to help make on our Cybertron again. We don't even have bath houses. Windchill 10:39 pm Ew, underground and underwater. *sticks out his tongue.* *points* Fingers. ItsyBitsySpyers 10:39 pm [[Congratulations. You have a grasp on basic anatomy.]] *Scoot. Scoot scoot.* Windchill 10:40 pm I know where all of the fun parts are. VProwl 10:40 pm *... Well, Prowl knows something interesting is about to show up. His shoulder rest just moved.* Smokescreen 10:40 pm OH NO /He's clinging to Prowl, even if he's seen this before./ ItsyBitsySpyers 10:41 pm *He really must make sure he can withstand being underwater for some time when he gets remodeled.* *Not to kidnap human spawn; he has no interest in that. Just for the element of surprise, when he needs it.* Prowl 10:41 pm Didn't one of them kill the pilot earlier? ItsyBitsySpyers 10:42 pm [[Not the android pilot. The human one.]] Windchill 10:42 pm *If anyone plans on kidnapping human spawn he will personally fight them just FYI.* Prowl 10:42 pm *shoves Smokescreen away as politely as she can* Please don't touch me. Smokescreen 10:42 pm Sorry- didn't mean to grab you like that. VProwl 10:42 pm ... Nice to finally see a mech in one of these films that /isn't/ portrayed as a treacherous backstabber. Smokescreen 10:43 pm /He's looking around for a pillow or something to grab onto- this is more intense a movie than he remembered!/ Prowl 10:43 pm Apology accepted. Windchill 10:43 pm *Wiggles excitedly in his seat as it gets closer and closer to the good parts.* ItsyBitsySpyers 10:43 pm [[Bishop is a good mech. He would be honored to greet them.]] Windchill 10:43 pm That's a lot of lightning, man. Prowl 10:43 pm *moves a little bit further away just in case he forgets again* Smokescreen 10:43 pm To be fair, it's an organic human that is the backstabbing jerk. Bishop Bishop's great. /... Is Bishop who Prowl was doing that *thing* over? ... Smokescreen's judging him a little./ ItsyBitsySpyers 10:44 pm [[Bishop is. Ash and David, less so.]] Prowl 10:44 pm Then Ripley's belief the Xenomorphs won't have killed Newt is false. Though there's enough of a chance I don't fault her for going after her. Omicron 10:45 pm *big Predacon comes in, in beast mode, with two little chirpers on her back* Windchill 10:45 pm She's gotta get dressed for battle, man. ItsyBitsySpyers 10:45 pm *David is a scientific genius the likes of which Soundwave admires, but he knows the general population's feelings about people like that.* VProwl 10:45 pm She's improperly armored for a gunfight showdown with creatures that spew acid when shot. Windchill 10:45 pm Nobody said she had to dress well. ItsyBitsySpyers 10:45 pm [[That is why she is using flames instead.]] Omicron 10:46 pm *looks around finding a place to lay down, blinks at two prowls?* Smokescreen 10:46 pm Wouldn't armor make her overheat with the flames? Humans overheat pretty easily. Prowl 10:46 pm How is she dressed? VProwl 10:46 pm She also brought grenades and bullets, but if her primary weapon is going to be the flamethrower, good. ItsyBitsySpyers 10:46 pm * Ravage stretches, pads over to Ice Queen, and begins sniffing her for roaches. He really doubts he'll find any at this point, but one must be sure.* Windchill 10:47 pm More likely she'd end up coated in acid that she couldn't remove in time anyway, just like the other guy. Makes no difference what level of armour you're wearing if the acid goes through everything. Agooddistraction 10:47 pm Who's beepin Smokescreen 10:47 pm !!!!! WHEEWHEE ItsyBitsySpyers 10:47 pm *Scoot. Scoot scoot scoot SCOOT. He is balanced on the very edge of his couch on the very edge of his aft. Only his elbows and feet are keeping him positioned where he is, honestly.* Agooddistraction 10:47 pm Hey Smokescreen 10:47 pm Wheewleeehe Windchill 10:47 pm Look at all of that goop, man. VProwl 10:47 pm *okay, something VERY exciting is about to happen.* Tarantulas 10:47 pm @SW: ::She's near, isn't she?:: Smokescreen 10:47 pm It's been way too long are you okay Windchill 10:47 pm *He knows a thing or several about goop.* VProwl 10:47 pm *... suddenly remembers the comment earlier about SOMETHING having laid all those eggs.* *has a theory.* ItsyBitsySpyers 10:48 pm *Tarantulas just receives a clip of a cat purring.* Smokescreen 10:48 pm oh no oh no oh no Windchill 10:48 pm *Taps his talons together, eagerly.* Agooddistraction 10:48 pm I'm fraggin great Smokescreen 10:48 pm RIPLEY Agooddistraction 10:48 pm You? Prowl 10:48 pm *gets an idea of how Ripley may or may not be dressed by the conversation* Smokescreen 10:48 pm I've been better, but- I'm still here! Do you have silver again by any chance Newt......... Agooddistraction 10:48 pm You know it Windchill 10:48 pm That's a lot of spit, man. Omicron 10:48 pm *Ice Queen sniffs back at ravage, lets them inspect her, though two hatcklings squeak and chirp at ravage* Windchill 10:48 pm And I've seen some spit in my time. Agooddistraction 10:48 pm What the frag are we watchihng? Windchill 10:48 pm Man. Tarantulas 10:48 pm *internal snickering for eons @sw* ItsyBitsySpyers 10:48 pm *When she and her hatchlings don't seem to smell of them, Ravage will move on to Wheeljack. Who probably smells of roaches, but not the right kind.* VProwl 10:49 pm *... was expecting to hear someone else answer his alternate by now, but since he didn't—* Her current level of dress is very low for what humans consider "armored." Prowl 10:49 pm Thank you. Agooddistraction 10:49 pm Rude Omicron 10:49 pm ?? VProwl 10:49 pm Typically, their armor is several layers of armor, plastic, or related material. A single thin layer of... I think that's plant matter? Probably plant matter—is much thinner than their usual combat attire. Windchill 10:49 pm *Answered the question by saying it didn't matter, so far as he's concerned. Oh well.* ItsyBitsySpyers 10:49 pm *As such, Ravage will sit down and watch the best section of this entire movie without budging. A good hunt, you know.* Smokescreen 10:50 pm egg Agooddistraction 10:50 pm Smokey Tarantulas 10:50 pm *alright, that internal snickering is now internal screaming* ItsyBitsySpyers 10:50 pm *Manages to smother every reaction except the plates of his backpack rippling. Only two mechs can see it anyway, though.* Agooddistraction 10:50 pm Whoa Omicron 10:50 pm That is a strange factory mode... Smokescreen 10:50 pm ... That reminds me, I gotta ping this one bot again- they're pretty eggcellent VProwl 10:50 pm *thinks his alternate is asking for context on what human armor is usually like, rather than on what, specifically, this one is wearing; but he manages to give a decent answer anyway.* Windchill 10:51 pm There she is. VProwl 10:51 pm *... pings soundwave. no content. just ping.* ItsyBitsySpyers 10:51 pm [[The most intelligent of her hive. And telepathic. A marvel.]] Prowl 10:51 pm *distracted by the audio description of the Queen to reply immediately to her alternate* ItsyBitsySpyers 10:52 pm *Guilty but extremely brief glance at Prowl.* VProwl 10:52 pm Telepathic. Hm. *pokerfacing so hard.* Omicron 10:52 pm *crosses forelegs, watching as hatchlings hop down, but stay close with all the mecha* Windchill 10:52 pm *She reminds him of his queen, but smaller and toothier.* Agooddistraction 10:53 pm Soundwave that's you ItsyBitsySpyers 10:53 pm *Dies internally a lot.* Windchill 10:53 pm That's gotta hurt, man. ItsyBitsySpyers 10:53 pm [[Don't be ridiculous.]] Omicron 10:53 pm *winces, and makes a face, baring fangs at screen off in her spot* Windchill 10:53 pm Right in the ovipositor, man. Smokescreen 10:53 pm what a waste of ovipositor Agooddistraction 10:53 pm Eew Tarantulas 10:54 pm *is SO GLAD he's only there in spider mode tonight and no one really knows he's there* ItsyBitsySpyers 10:54 pm *Ravage's tail lashes. The hunt begins.* Windchill 10:54 pm *Points* Explosions. Man. Prowl 10:54 pm Impressive she was able to leave it behind without overly damaging herself. VProwl 10:54 pm *SPEAKING OF WHICH. pings Tarantulas, too.* *because eggs.* Omicron 10:54 pm *quiet hissings, mostly on principle of a nest being destroyed* ItsyBitsySpyers 10:55 pm [[She can eventually grow another.]] [[The safety of her hive is more important.]] Agooddistraction 10:55 pm You can grow another Windchill 10:55 pm *She even sounds eerily like his boyfriend, on some days.* Prowl 10:55 pm Fascinating. Tarantulas 10:55 pm @P: ::What?:: *pretending he doesn't know exactly what* Windchill 10:55 pm Some of us don't need to grow another. Man. ItsyBitsySpyers 10:55 pm [[You are as high as the Manganese Mountains, mech. You cannot grow what you do not have.]] Agooddistraction 10:56 pm You're right about that Smokescreen 10:56 pm ... Wheelie, what kinda stuff are you on and can I have some please VProwl 10:56 pm @T «Forgive me for briefly sounding like one of your more obnoxious comm calls.» Omicron 10:56 pm she's like the big insecticon queens back home...just...smaller and meaner VProwl 10:56 pm @T «But: eggs?» *is this it, tara. is this the thing that you are interested in.* Windchill 10:57 pm A lot smaller. Agooddistraction 10:57 pm Is it weird that Megatron was really into collecting eggs Smokescreen 10:57 pm ... Are insecticon queens really like that? I always thought that was just the really specific stories ItsyBitsySpyers 10:57 pm [[HIGHLY intelligent.]] Prowl 10:57 pm And organic, yes? Smokescreen 10:57 pm YES Megatron's megaweird ItsyBitsySpyers 10:57 pm [[And organic, yes.]] Agooddistraction 10:58 pm I think some of my clones did that Tarantulas 10:58 pm @P: ::Snrk. Of a sort.:: *he doesn't have any like this, no* Omicron 10:58 pm Depends on the world *looks at smokescreen* my native one their....big, bigger then any predacon. but, mostly pretty calm and friendly Smokescreen 10:58 pm .... I mean. The stories I read were uh. Very, um. About what bots who became queens did. Windchill 10:59 pm Maybe we don't want to hear about it, man. Agooddistraction 10:59 pm ?? VProwl 10:59 pm @T «Does this fall under the umbrella of things you find appealing.» Agooddistraction 10:59 pm I think he was tryin to make Ratchet his queen Prowl 10:59 pm The Insecticons here breed via a form of cloning. Omicron 10:59 pm Racer: *under snack table again* Windchill 10:59 pm *He's married to an insecticon queen you shut your mouth.* Agooddistraction 10:59 pm You breed like that Windchill 11:00 pm I relate to Bishop there. Omicron 11:00 pm I breed alike, but not exactly XD Windchill 11:00 pm Man. Tarantulas 11:00 pm @P: ::What, the movie in general? Let's just say it's moderately racy.:: Windchill 11:00 pm Maybe not that part. VProwl 11:00 pm Really? Finally a good one and they mutilate him? Is he— Can he survive that? I'm not familiar enough with this model. Smokescreen 11:00 pm wait Ratchet his what Windchill 11:01 pm She's got some real spindly legs, man. VProwl 11:01 pm @T «Noted.» Agooddistraction 11:01 pm His queen you know Windchill 11:01 pm I like 'em chunky, man. Agooddistraction 11:01 pm Oh frag what happened to that one ItsyBitsySpyers 11:01 pm [[He is not dead yet.]] Prowl 11:01 pm Good. ItsyBitsySpyers 11:01 pm *Spawn for spawn.* Agooddistraction 11:01 pm Did he drink a lotta milk?I know milk makes humans sick sometims VProwl 11:01 pm No, he's not. Good. Windchill 11:02 pm He drank a lot of cum. Agooddistraction 11:02 pm Oh Prowl 11:02 pm ((yesssss Smokescreen 11:02 pm ..... Windchill 11:02 pm Hence my earlier comment, duh. ItsyBitsySpyers 11:02 pm ((YES)) Omicron 11:02 pm pfffffffffftt Agooddistraction 11:02 pm Insecitcons tried to knifedick me ohhhhh Smokescreen 11:02 pm a lot of what Windchill 11:02 pm Shut up, Wheeljack. VProwl 11:02 pm ... NOW she's properly armored. Agooddistraction 11:02 pm bitch! Smokescreen 11:02 pm they WHAT Agooddistraction 11:02 pm You shut up Windchill 11:02 pm No, man. You're not the boss of me, man. *That's it that's his reasoning.* Agooddistraction 11:02 pm Hey, come to my fight club We'll settle this there Windchill 11:03 pm Where's your fight club, man. Agooddistraction 11:03 pm Secret place Windchill 11:03 pm For secret reasons, man. Okay man. Omicron 11:03 pm *keeping an optic on her hatchlings just in case something happens here...* Windchill 11:03 pm But only if we fight, man. Agooddistraction 11:03 pm Soundwave still hasn't come to root for me Windchill 11:03 pm You have to let me win or else I'll cry, man. ItsyBitsySpyers 11:03 pm [[He has no interest in watching bloodsport. He lived it.]] Agooddistraction 11:03 pm No way But you get to watch me get beat up Isn't that your favorite thing? ItsyBitsySpyers 11:04 pm [[He has plenty of memories.]] Smokescreen 11:04 pm wait wheels you have a fight club Agooddistraction 11:04 pm Oh boo hiss Smokescreen 11:04 pm can I join I wanna fight Windchill 11:04 pm Fine, I'll just win anyway, man. Agooddistraction 11:04 pm Yeah but don't go around telling bots VProwl 11:04 pm ((finally, some proper lighting)) Smokescreen 11:04 pm HEY EVERYONE Wheels has a fight club Agooddistraction 11:04 pm SMOKES shH Smokescreen 11:04 pm SORRY Agooddistraction 11:04 pm I'll let them know I invited you but shh Omicron 11:04 pm fiiight ItsyBitsySpyers 11:04 pm ((they had all kinds of lines and control rods to hide heh)) Smokescreen 11:05 pm ... I'll keep quiet if you uhhhh ItsyBitsySpyers 11:05 pm *Alas. The poor queen.* VProwl 11:05 pm .... Her elbow's broken. Smokescreen 11:05 pm share whatever you're on? Sure. Omicron 11:05 pm the human made drone is still alive O_o Agooddistraction 11:05 pm Yeah sure VProwl 11:05 pm He's not a drone, he's clearly sentient. Smokescreen 11:05 pm Wait, really? Agooddistraction 11:05 pm You're a drone Windchill 11:06 pm Sapient. ItsyBitsySpyers 11:06 pm [[Silence, Wheeljack.]] Smokescreen 11:06 pm Wheeljack. No Agooddistraction 11:06 pm No ItsyBitsySpyers 11:06 pm [[He will not allow insults to drones on the premises.]] Omicron 11:06 pm my mistake *inclines head to prowl* Agooddistraction 11:06 pm okay fine you're a yap Omicron 11:06 pm *eyes wheeljack* Agooddistraction 11:06 pm YAP YAP VProwl 11:06 pm *usually, he ignores wheeljack. right now, he is VERY STRONGLY, VERY POINTEDLY ignoring wheeljack.* Windchill 11:06 pm *Trying to keep his mouth shut.* *That milky mess gets him every time.* ItsyBitsySpyers 11:07 pm *Is quietly hoping Chimera isn't monitoring the feeds right now. Sometimes they check in early when Zori gets tired...* Agooddistraction 11:07 pm I don't remember how I got here ?? Smokescreen 11:07 pm ... Wheeljack. Can you give me whatever you have right now Windchill 11:07 pm Maybe that's your sign, man. ItsyBitsySpyers 11:08 pm [[On a foreboding breeze.]] Smokescreen 11:08 pm /He's a bit worried!/ Agooddistraction 11:08 pm Can you handle it? ItsyBitsySpyers 11:08 pm *Soundwave stretches at last and pushes himself all the way back to the back of the couch before leaning against Prowl's shoulder again.* Smokescreen 11:08 pm Of cuorse I can! I'm really tough! Hit me with all of it! Agooddistraction 11:08 pm I don't want you to get knocked up or anything weird Smokescreen 11:08 pm I'll never get knocked up, I promise. Agooddistraction 11:09 pm Wtf Soundwave how would a breeze carry me Omicron 11:09 pm *glances over at Soundwave, knows racer will try to scoot to him to show off. If it isn't alright right now she'll call him back* VProwl 11:09 pm ... For reference, among mechanical species, "drone" is used to refer to machinery that may or may not be designed to look like a person, but has no intelligence of its own. Windchill 11:09 pm You were carried in by your own petard. Sucking, man. Smokescreen 11:09 pm from sucking the earth Agooddistraction 11:09 pm what Windchill 11:10 pm We Decepticons are...really good at sucking, man. Agooddistraction 11:10 pm I'm good at sucking too Smokescreen 11:10 pm Really? Can I see? Windchill 11:10 pm Not as good as I am, man. Agooddistraction 11:10 pm Kid VProwl 11:10 pm Calling an intelligent, feeling mech a "drone" is equivalent to calling an intelligent, feeling organic a... hm. What's lower than "animal"? Agooddistraction 11:10 pm Okay, let's have a suck off Smokescreen 11:10 pm ... That came out weird wait what Agooddistraction 11:10 pm Prowl don't take it so hard, it's not a spike Windchill 11:10 pm I'll suck off your whole head, man. Agooddistraction 11:11 pm Whoa whoa Windchill 11:11 pm I mean it. Man. Smokescreen 11:11 pm .... why would why would they make Optimus do this please come on this isn't optimus prime this is...... pooptimus prick Tarantulas 11:11 pm *is sizing down and hiding better under prowl's bumper, he's not keen on what's going on right now* VProwl 11:12 pm *tightens embrace.* Omicron 11:12 pm *looks over at Prowl,* If my words offended I apologize Prowl. Drone is a blanket term where I'm from, its rarely used as an insult. Bull 11:12 pm *Bull pinged Soundwave that he was gonna head out with Rinki* Windchill 11:13 pm I've decided... ItsyBitsySpyers 11:13 pm *Soundwave opened a bridge for them upstairs and returned the majority of his attention to the conversation around him.* VProwl 11:13 pm Yes, I suspected as much. I'm not criticizing, just— educating. Agooddistraction 11:13 pm I sucked claws before I didn't really wanna Smokescreen 11:13 pm .................... but why did you suck them ItsyBitsySpyers 11:13 pm [[He'd really rather not hear your exploits.]] Bull 11:13 pm ((night everyone)) ItsyBitsySpyers 11:13 pm [[There is something of a serious subject at hand.]] Windchill 11:14 pm I did and I liked it. Man. ItsyBitsySpyers 11:14 pm ((goodnight)) Smokescreen 11:14 pm wheels can I sit on you Agooddistraction 11:14 pm Okay okay Windchill 11:14 pm Sorry your life sucks, man. Omicron 11:14 pm ((rest well)) Agooddistraction 11:14 pm I'll spare you Rinky 11:14 pm ((and I'm out too, g'night! Agooddistraction 11:14 pm Yeah sure sit on me Smokescreen 11:14 pm /He's going over to sit on Wheeljack! Hey, this way, he won't get into more trouble, right? He feels like he owes Soundwave. Also Wheeljack looks comfy/ Agooddistraction 11:14 pm *patpat* ItsyBitsySpyers 11:15 pm ((night!)) Agooddistraction 11:15 pm Sorry I pissed off your boyfriend, mom Smokescreen 11:15 pm /Doorwings wiggle! And he's patting Wheeljack back/ Smokescreen 11:15 pm ... Wait boyfriend? Omicron 11:15 pm Racer: *might be inching his way over to soundwave* ItsyBitsySpyers 11:15 pm *Not going to acknowledge this 'mom' comm-- damn it, Wheeljack. You couldn't have let Smokescreen be oblivious?*

*Soundwave reaches down and holds a hand out for Racer. Go on and climb up his arm if you like; it's a steady ramp.* Prowl 11:16 pm *ah good she's alone at the table* Windchill 11:16 pm I'm hungry. *Raises a hand.* ItsyBitsySpyers 11:16 pm [[Yes?]] Windchill 11:16 pm How many people would complain if I ate Wheeljack's head? Put it in simple terms so that I can understand. ItsyBitsySpyers 11:17 pm [[Both officers, he expects. And Ravage. He doubts you'd share.]] VProwl 11:17 pm *doesn't care. wheeljack has as much empirical evidence that prowl is soundwave's boyfriend as he has empirical evidence that soundwave is wheeljack's mom. the fact that he's right by accident doesn't mean he isn't simply being idiotic.* Windchill 11:17 pm Man. Omicron 11:17 pm Racer: =D! *scrables up and plops into a lap, he's much better at climbing now, and heaver, Icy watching from her spot* Smokescreen 11:17 pm Don't eat him! Windchill 11:17 pm So, just Smokescreen. VProwl 11:17 pm @S «One and a half officers.» Smokescreen 11:17 pm I'll eat you up if you eat him. ItsyBitsySpyers 11:17 pm *Faint tremble.* Windchill 11:17 pm I'm too big for you, man. Smokescreen 11:17 pm You wanna bet? Agooddistraction 11:18 pm Don't eat anyone@ Windchill 11:18 pm You can't handle this, man. I'm too powerful. Man. Smokescreen 11:18 pm I don't know, I've heard I've got a pretty big mouth! Windchill 11:18 pm Mine is bigger, man. Omicron 11:18 pm If its really bad, I can lay on him and keep him from mecha? Smokescreen 11:18 pm How much do you bet? Windchill 11:18 pm I'm broke, man. You'd lose anyway, man. Smokescreen 11:19 pm Well- I bet half a shanix my mouth's way bigger! Windchill 11:19 pm I'm bigger and I have...experience. Smokescreen 11:19 pm ... Wait, what kind of experience? Agooddistraction 11:19 pm Soundwave Windchill 11:19 pm All of it. I have all of the experience. Smokescreen 11:19 pm 'Cause I've got my fair share of experience, too. Windchill 11:19 pm I've got a monopoly, man. ItsyBitsySpyers 11:19 pm [[What, Wheeljack.]] Agooddistraction 11:19 pm Thanks Smokescreen 11:19 pm I doubt it! Come over and prove it! ItsyBitsySpyers 11:19 pm [[....Why.]] Agooddistraction 11:19 pm Just thanks Windchill 11:19 pm Okay, but we have to go outside. Man. Smokescreen 11:20 pm Fine, fine. Maybe after I'm ready to leave? I'm pretty comfy right now. Windchill 11:20 pm I doubt Soundwave would appreciate the evidence of my eating you on his floor. Tarantulas 11:20 pm @P: ::Things are a bit - hectic. I may take my leave shortly.:: ItsyBitsySpyers 11:20 pm [[Don't get too comfortable. He's closing the room to the public in roughly ten minutes.]] VProwl 11:20 pm @T «Please don't, the collective IQ in the room will plummet into the negatives.» Windchill 11:20 pm *Will take that as a victory.* Omicron 11:20 pm RAcer: *making himself at home in soundwave's lap* pffb? *at prowl* Prowl 11:20 pm *Prowl is going to leave since the film is over and she has no intention of overstaying what little welcome she has here* Smokescreen 11:20 pm Oh yeah, I bet he won't. We can take it outside. ItsyBitsySpyers 11:21 pm *Offers a hand to Racer to sniff. Would he like scritches?* Windchill 11:21 pm Too late, you missed your chance, man. Smokescreen 11:21 pm What? come on! You just scared to lose, man? Meet me outside if you're not a coward. Agooddistraction 11:21 pm *optics are barely online* Windchill 11:21 pm I'm going home. You're gonna die, kid. Smokescreen 11:21 pm I've survived worse. Omicron 11:21 pm Racer: *sniff! he'd love scrithces yesss* Windchill 11:21 pm And I have absolutely no qualms about it. VProwl 11:22 pm *Unfortunate. Prowl had been hoping to speak with his alternate. But he was pinned down by a spider and she was accosted by a pestilence.* Windchill 11:22 pm I mean. Smokescreen 11:22 pm /He's getting up, and is going outside!/ I'm sturdier than I look, you know. Windchill 11:22 pm So impressive, much wow. Tarantulas 11:22 pm @P: ::You're not required to remain here, you know.:: Windchill 11:22 pm Man. ItsyBitsySpyers 11:22 pm *Soundwave vents an itty bitty sigh of relief when his own Prowl leaves and slumps ever so slightly.* Windchill 11:23 pm I was joking but I can eat you if that's what's going to make you happy, man. VProwl 11:23 pm @T «I set aside this evening every week to spend with Soundwave and I don't want to be run off by blathering morons.» Smokescreen 11:23 pm I just wanna see you try. Windchill 11:23 pm No, you don't. Man. Agooddistraction 11:23 pm Just go eat each other outside ItsyBitsySpyers 11:23 pm *Thin fingertips ever so gently scratch the plates beneath Racer's jaw. He's been told that growing newbuilds in other timelines tend to itch where they have trouble rubbing the expanding metal plates.* Smokescreen 11:23 pm ... Wait, we're talking about the same eating, right? You gonna swallow me up? VProwl 11:24 pm *he's adjusted his posture to curl his fingers in Tarantulas's fuzz again. The fuzzybutt is keeping him sane now. It's a valuable, if draining, duty.* Omicron 11:24 pm *hums along with the music from her spot* Windchill 11:24 pm Not whole, sorry. I'm not that big. Man. Smokescreen 11:24 pm Aww man. What a disappointment. Windchill 11:24 pm I know. But vore isn't actually my thing. So. Smokescreen 11:25 pm ... I'm gonna head off and check on Tarantulas. He hasn't been feeling too well- and I wanna make sure he's eating and everything. Tarantulas 11:25 pm *just ask tara to move, he'll probably do it now. maybe. after he unfreezes. he doesn't even know what he should be paying attention to right now* ItsyBitsySpyers 11:25 pm *Not knowing how flexible Racer is or isn't, he assumes a spot he at least can't bite at is a good bet.* Windchill 11:25 pm *Stretches.* Smokescreen 11:25 pm Thank you for the movie, Sounds. Windchill 11:25 pm I'm going home for real. Smokescreen 11:25 pm And for everything else. See ya. ItsyBitsySpyers 11:25 pm [[You're welcome. Next week we return to the subject of Spock.]] Windchill 11:25 pm You people are waaaay too clever for me. VProwl 11:25 pm *wouldn't do that, he knows Tarantulas is hiding. Prowl is asking a lot of him just by asking him to stay.* Smokescreen 11:25 pm Oh! With the Alpha Trion sounding human, right? ItsyBitsySpyers 11:25 pm [[Goodnight to you too, Windchill.]] *Nods. With him.* Windchill 11:26 pm Yeah, you say it, but you don't really mean it. *Doesn't seem to care about that.* Smokescreen 11:26 pm /Now he's starting to ping Messy- first to see if he's up to talk at all!/ Omicron 11:26 pm Racer: *sighs and leans into the scriches, radiating happy-bliss, though tilts head to get the scritches on the side of his neck* Windchill 11:27 pm *Makes it to his feet with minimal grunting.* ItsyBitsySpyers 11:27 pm *Obliges without a fuss. It's not unlike when Ravage feels like some quiet grooming attention.* Windchill 11:27 pm *Yes, he has noticed that he acts 100% worse when he doesn't bring his spawn along to keep him responsible.* *He's devolving.* Agooddistraction 11:28 pm Smokescreen, take the rest of this cyg. Try it out when you're somewhere else though ItsyBitsySpyers 11:28 pm *Or is it a case of temporary evolution when she's there? A Cybertronian digimon.* Smokescreen 11:28 pm !! Really, Wheels? Thank you! Tarantulas 11:28 pm *the tiniest spider sigh. he pings smokey back* Agooddistraction 11:28 pm Yep Night fraggers Smokescreen 11:28 pm /He's holding onto it/ What is it? ItsyBitsySpyers 11:28 pm [[Goodnight.]] Smokescreen 11:28 pm !! /Pingping/ Agooddistraction 11:29 pm Love you, Mommy ItsyBitsySpyers 11:29 pm [[OUT.]] Windchill 11:29 pm *Or maybe he likes being a crass asshole and acting dumb, because it's fun.* Smokescreen 11:29 pm @Tarantulas: ::How are you feeling tonight? Missed seeing you at the movie- probably good you weren't there, though. You would've hated it.:: Agooddistraction 11:29 pm 😎 Windchill 11:29 pm *But he can't get away with starting fights with her around and is forced...to behave....tragic.* It's okay, Wheeljack. I'll be your mommy. ItsyBitsySpyers 11:30 pm [[That's it. Out. Everyone. Go.]] Windchill 11:30 pm *Shuffles sideways like a crab to escape before he's made to commit.* Smokescreen 11:30 pm .... But Sounds! /Fine. He's heading out, and taking the chance to try that cyg./ Tarantulas 11:30 pm @Smokey: ::I'll trust your opinion, then. I'm feeling... better.:: Windchill 11:30 pm *Shuffles faster.* Omicron 11:30 pm Racer: *tiny happy sound that might be a purr later on in life, wants alll the scritches, he's starting to grow again and there's some faintly viable marks as evidance* O_o; alright...? ItsyBitsySpyers 11:31 pm @P: [[Perhaps a pbbt for the young one?]] Smokescreen 11:31 pm @Tarantulas: ::Really? That's good! Have you been recharging and drinking? Can I visit you? Have you been bathing?:: ItsyBitsySpyers 11:31 pm *Don't ask how he managed to think the pbbt noise.* Tarantulas 11:31 pm @Smokey: ::No visiting at the moment - soon, maybe. I'll contact you.:: Windchill 11:32 pm *Now he shuffles in sloooow motion just to see if he's gonna get yelled at for blocking the exit with his giant ass.* ItsyBitsySpyers 11:32 pm *No. But Ravage will make a small charge across the room and tackle him out of it.* Smokescreen 11:32 pm @Tarantulas: ::Oh. Okay- I get that. I know I can be just. Too much. I'll get to see you soon, right?:: VProwl 11:33 pm @S «... Does "everyone" include Tarantulas and/or me?» ItsyBitsySpyers 11:33 pm @P: [[Does it ever?]] Windchill 11:33 pm *Doesn't seem to notice this.* VProwl 11:33 pm @S «Well. I wasn't sure about Tarantulas.» ItsyBitsySpyers 11:33 pm *Ravage is tempted to bite the mech, but there's still an officer present. He'll just leap off again and swat at Windchill's ankles.* Omicron 11:33 pm *confused predacon, starting to get up and shake, was hoping to stay a bit, but she'll gather up her two hatchlings* Smokescreen 11:34 pm /Smokescreen's mostly out of the room- but he's got one audial phased in just to listen to the music./ Windchill 11:34 pm *Gasps. He's being swatted. To DEATH.* ItsyBitsySpyers 11:34 pm ((there would've been more time tonight but the big interference in the middle of the night kinda ate up time)) Windchill 11:34 pm *It's a very sensual gasp.* VProwl 11:34 pm @S «... You do have a space bridge.» Windchill 11:34 pm Watch out, bucko. I can't tell if you're messing with me or trying to chase me out. Tarantulas 11:35 pm @Smokey: ::Hush, it's not you, it's me. I'm working, dear. But yes - soon.:: Windchill 11:35 pm You could just ask nicely if it's the latter. ItsyBitsySpyers 11:35 pm @P: [[He wanted to avoid using it.]]

=Go or claws. Please.= Windchill 11:35 pm Okay, since you asked nicely. Smokescreen 11:36 pm @Tarantulas: ::It's okay if you think I'm annoying or a nuisance or anything- I've heard it- I mean. I'll see you later, then? Keep taking care of yourself. I've got something for you when you're ready!:: Windchill 11:36 pm *It's like a torture session of old to get common decency out of anyone, sigh!* I'm going now. *Moves marginally faster.* *His butt has cleared the door.* ItsyBitsySpyers 11:37 pm *Grumble grumble stalk pace growl snap growl grumble stalk flop loaf.* Windchill 11:37 pm *You are all free.* VProwl 11:37 pm @S «You also wanted all the visitors to be gone by now.» Tarantulas 11:37 pm @Smokey: ::Hyeh, very well. I'm looking forward to it, then.:: Omicron 11:38 pm *head under a table to get the other hatchling she had brought, is getting them* ItsyBitsySpyers 11:38 pm *Racer gets offered an itty-bitty treat sized for someone as tiny as Zori fished out of Soundwave's subspace. He's not going to put Racer on the ground while big feet are moving.* Windchill 11:40 pm *Sticks his head back in. You thought your suffering was over? THINK AGAIN.* Omicron 11:40 pm Racer: n.n .........! *forepaws grabs at hand and pulls to start chewing on the treat, is very good with being hand fed now* ItsyBitsySpyers 11:40 pm *OPENS A DAMN BRIDGE IN FRONT OF WINDCHILL'S FACE.* Windchill 11:40 pm GOOD NIGHT, FUCKOS! *Backs up and tears off out of there.* ItsyBitsySpyers 11:40 pm *Closes it.* Windchill 11:40 pm *You can't catch him today, he already knows that trick.* ItsyBitsySpyers 11:41 pm *It was a warning.* Tarantulas 11:41 pm *tarantulas was literally about to come climbing out from under prowl's bumper but no* ItsyBitsySpyers 11:41 pm *Smokescreen's going to be next if he doesn't book it.* Smokescreen 11:41 pm /He's mostly out! He just has one audial poking out because phase shifter./ Windchill 11:41 pm *Might wait outside to jump anyone unfortunate enough to come out in traditional fashion.* *Nah.* ItsyBitsySpyers 11:42 pm *Stretches a feeler out and tries to PINCH the audial.* VProwl 11:42 pm ... For future reference, I'm going to start going straight upstairs as soon as the movies are over. Upstairs or home. ItsyBitsySpyers 11:42 pm [[That may be a good idea.]] Omicron 11:42 pm Racer: pbbt? VProwl 11:42 pm As m— pbbbt. ItsyBitsySpyers 11:42 pm [[...Preferably not home. Unless you need to. He does not wish to keep you from work or other tasks that do require your attention.]] Smokescreen 11:42 pm /LOUD BEEPING as the feeler pinches- and he's starting to pull away, possibly pulling the feeler through if Soundwave keeps holding on/ ItsyBitsySpyers 11:43 pm *No, he won't hold on. But please, Smokescreen, go.* ((like seriously i don't wanna be in here past midnight y'all)) VProwl 11:43 pm As much as I'd like to stand strong with you in solidarity against the idiots, I— *what the HELL is going on over there.* Windchill 11:43 pm *PHEW! Now that all of that bad behaviour is out of his system, he's gone.* Smokescreen 11:43 pm /He's finally leaving!/ VProwl 11:43 pm ... *for the third time.* As much as I'd like to stand in solidarity with you, I can't tolerate it anymore. Omicron 11:43 pm *walks over quietly-ish, and slowly to Soundwave and Prowl with the second hatchling in her mouth. waiting for them to finish talking, still looking rather confused* VProwl 11:44 pm ... And there's no reason you should have to tolerate it, either. In your own home, at private screenings. ItsyBitsySpyers 11:44 pm *Soundwave carefully hands Racer back to Ice Queen with a nod.* Tarantulas 11:45 pm *alright, coast's clear, time to come out* VProwl 11:45 pm *there's wiggling behind his shield. Sits up and loosens his arms.* ItsyBitsySpyers 11:45 pm [[You realize it isn't often he's accused of being too forgiving a mech.]]

[[But he knows what you mean.]] Omicron 11:45 pm *Icy extends her head and neck over, letting Racer climb up onto her, and walk down to her back. The little kitten predacon blinks at the two* Tarantulas 11:45 pm *he's not going to hide the whole conversation under prowl's bumper, it's getting awkward. wiggling out, he goes* VProwl 11:46 pm Thanks for staying. *he needed the support.* ItsyBitsySpyers 11:46 pm [[There you are. Have a good night, if you are leaving.]] *He has no idea if that's what the spide is doing, but Tarantulas is moving after a whole movie night spent wrapped up, so it's a guess.* Omicron 11:46 pm *sets the hatchling down so she can talk better* you said everyone to leave? *hesitates* ItsyBitsySpyers 11:47 pm [[Unfortunately, yes. His time is very limited. It is nothing you have done.]] Omicron 11:47 pm If I have done anything to offend, I am sorry ItsyBitsySpyers 11:48 pm [[You are one of the least offensive guests. That does not, sadly, change his availability.]] VProwl 11:48 pm ... I hope you... didn't interpret my, er—attempt to elucidate, as a scolding. It wasn't. I just—thought you should know. Tarantulas 11:48 pm *pings his 'welcome' to prowl, grooms himself briefly before stretching his legs* VProwl 11:48 pm Since you're—er—not around Cybertronian-Cybertronians much. Omicron 11:51 pm scolding? maybe. It took me off guard. But as I said it's always been a general trerm. a rank for some higher insecticons. I can see how in some worlds it could come across as bad. *keeps the other hatchling close, ducking to pick it up and put on her back* ItsyBitsySpyers 11:51 pm @Prowl: [[...You do ask much of him. To have you upstairs alone with his private console and personal supply shelves, for however long he chooses to be down here.]]

[[He wonders if that isn't meant to encourage him to follow you up quickly.]] VProwl 11:52 pm I'm unfamiliar with Insecticon ranks and terminology. Among the mecha species I know, it's a lower rank, not higher. @S «I'm not flirting, I'm fed up. If you don't want me alone upstairs, then I'll go home and wait for you to comm.» ItsyBitsySpyers 11:53 pm @P: [[He didn't say it was flirting.]]

*He thought it was a choice. Stay and tolerate idiocy as he's been doing, or make sure his paranoia doesn't run off with his head.*

[[He will consider ending the nights sooner.]] *Soundwave stands and begins moving furniture. Time for all good bots to move on for the night.* VProwl 11:54 pm @S «Honestly, sometimes the only reason I don't leave mid-movie on nights like this one is because I know that if they notice it, they'll conclude they can make me go away by being sufficiently annoying and get worse on purpose.» ItsyBitsySpyers 11:55 pm @P: [[Then you know why he's often been forced to tolerate it himself. Seeing as he's no longer allowed to discourage them the ways he once would have.]] Tarantulas 11:56 pm *is silently pattering his way out, then, so long as the others are occupied* ItsyBitsySpyers 11:56 pm *Pings Tarantulas goodnight.* VProwl 11:56 pm @S «You have a bridge. You have the ability to ban visitors and block comms. This is your home. You don't have to let people in you don't want to.» Evening, Tarantulas. ItsyBitsySpyers 11:56 pm *And: (txt): Soundwave pleased Tarantulas' fears: not true.* Tarantulas 11:57 pm *freezes* ...I rather thought you mightn't notice me leaving. Ah well. ItsyBitsySpyers 11:57 pm [[This is HIS home. Of course he would.]] Tarantulas 11:57 pm *a recognition ping to sw - they'll talk later* VProwl 11:57 pm You were sitting on my lap. ItsyBitsySpyers 11:58 pm @P: [[He knows. Primus damn him for a fool, he knows. He will figure out what to do before next week. For now, he wants - something. Unless you would prefer to spend time with Tarantulas.]] *He knows what happened all week.* Tarantulas 11:59 pm Hff. Nevermind that. You seemed occupied. Yesterday Tarantulas 11:59 pm *not upset, ftr* VProwl 12:00 am @S «... Tarantulas is—stressed. If I offered company, I think he'd take it as a demand and try to accommodate me, no matter if he wants to or not. I don't want to make the first move.» ItsyBitsySpyers 12:00 am *In that case:*

@Tarantulas: (txt): Tarantulas's preference tonight: Prowl company, quiet time alone? VProwl 12:00 am *but now THINKS Tarantulas is upset, because he's complained about him being occupied with Soundwave while in Tarantulas's presence before, and What Is Tone How Do I Read It. wilts slightly.* ... I always remembered you were there. Tarantulas 12:01 am *don't put him on the spot, he's awful at these sorts of decisions* *that line, though, prowl. now he feels bad* Tarantulas 12:05 am ...I'll - I did say I ought to take my leave a while back. I think the time is overdue, hyeh. *too much going on, just going to retreat for the evening* ItsyBitsySpyers 12:06 am *Nods then.* VProwl 12:06 am ... Evening. *already said that. feels like he should say something else. doesn't know what.* ItsyBitsySpyers 12:07 am @P: [[Perhaps tell him you look forward to next time?]] Tarantulas 12:07 am There aren't any days or nights in the Noisemaze, you know. *small laugh, and he's on his way* ItsyBitsySpyers 12:07 am *Ah, too late.* VProwl 12:08 am ... N— I'll see you next time. *HE FUCKED UP. HE FUCKED UP.* VProwl 12:10 am *he meant to say something nice......* Tarantulas 12:11 am *ping, he understands. but yes, he's gone now* ItsyBitsySpyers 12:13 am *Turns to Prowl.*

[[...Come. The night has been stressful, and for you, the rest of this last week as well.]]

*Spreads his arms a bit. Please, do join him upstairs. He's of a mind to be protective and soothing and helpful, in whatever form Prowl requires.* VProwl 12:14 am *a nod, and he stands. he doesn't feel like being carried tonight.* ItsyBitsySpyers 12:14 am *In that case, one arm will drop to his side while the other stays stuck out in an offer to be linked.* *However Prowl takes it, or doesn't, up they'll go.* VProwl 12:17 am *... he'll take it. and up they go.*

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[the-real-xmonster]

Turns and Steps, Explained (1/2)

Okay party people, after jumps and spins, are you guys ready to take your figure skating watcher know-how to its next level with turns and steps?

To avoid indigestion and to keep the post within not completely outrageous length I’m going to divide and conquer ‘em this time. This first post will cover the turns. A second post will follow to cover the steps and some additional interesting tidbits.

Before we get down to business, there’s one topic we must go over as a primer. I’ve actively tried to avoid mentioning it in the previous tech posts because according to my experience, bringing it up is a surefire way to turn off any spark of interest new fans / casual viewers might have in a skating discussion. However with turns and steps we cannot, repeat, cannot, circumvent this topic. So, let us talk about edges.

Now there are only 3 possible states a skater’s skating blade can be in at any given time on the ice: inside edge, outside edge, or flat edge. In order to tell them apart you just need to answer this question: is the blade leaning toward or away from the center of the skater’s body? If it’s toward, they’re on an inside edge, if it’s away, it’s an outside edge, and if it’s neutral, it’s a flat edge. Once we’ve established that, the next step is to check out the direction of the skate, is it backward or forward? Combining these two answers, you’ll get to whether it’s a forward inside edge, a back inside edge, a forward outside edge, or a back outside edge.

(In case you’re still wondering why you need to know all this stuff, well that’s because a turn is, by definition, a move in which the skater changes edges or changes directions or both, on one foot. A step is basically the same thing, but with a change of foot as well.)

Here’s an example on how to “read” edges: Yuzuru’s triple Axel at Skate Canada 2015. He entered the jump on an outside edge (note that since it’s a spread eagle, his left foot was on a forward edge and his right foot on a back edge). He moved to a forward outside edge on his left foot to take off for the Axel, finished 3.5 rotations in the air and landed on a back outside edge on his right foot. He transitioned out of the jump into another outside spread eagle and then changed edge midway to turn it into an inside spread eagle - pay attention to that subtle shift in center of gravity at the edge change. (And that, kids, is how you get a perfect score for your triple Axel.)  

Here’s the jump and transition in all of its real time glory to get your eyes some practice: 

With that done, we can move on to examine the 6 types of turns in figure skating. They are: twizzle, bracket, loop, counter, rocker, and three-turn. 

Same approach as with jumps, let’s look at the turns in order of easiest to hardest to recognize:

First, the twizzle. It’s easiest to recognize mainly because, unlike the rest of the turns, it spans about 2 seconds or more (I’m not kidding, the other turns/steps are, most of the time, squint-and-you-miss-it, so let’s appreciate the twizzle while we can). Twizzle is that move where you see the skater do multiple rotations on one foot while travelling a certain distance on the ice. The travelling part is quite important because that’s what makes a twizzle different from a spin. Below is one of Yuzu’s twizzles from Hope and Legacy. In fact, being the lazy bum that I am, I will use H&L throughout this entire post. In all real time gifs I will highlight the turn by turning the footage colored as it happens. The slow-mo gifs will zoom in to show the turn on its own.

Second, the loop (yeah make sure you don’t confuse it with the jump of the same name). The loop turn is where, quite aptly, the skater’s blade draws a loop on the ice. See below Yuzu doing a loop: he started on his left forward outside edge, turned 360 degrees and ended up back on the exact same edge as when he started. This principle is the same no matter which edge the skater chooses to start the loop on.     

Next up, let’s look at the bracket and the three-turn together, since they’re practically siblings. Both of them are turns in which the skater travels along a crescent. When they reach the mid-point of this curve, they make a turn so that they change both edge and direction. So: forward inside to back outside, back inside to forward outside, you get the gist. 

The difference between a bracket and a three-turn is in the orientation of the turn itself. If the skater makes the turn away from the travelling curve, it’s a bracket, since, you know, the shape drawn by their blade on the ice would have the shape of a curly bracket: }. If the turn is made inward along the travelling curve, it’s a three-turn, because the turn’s path will thus take the shape of the number 3. Below is path diagram for these two turns (which I lifted straight from Wikipedia because why not): 

Here’s what they look like in real time: 

And here’s the slow-mo close-up:

A handy trick to tell these two apart is to check the rotation of the turn against the direction of the curve. In the bracket above, Yuzu was travelling counterclockwise, but the turn itself was made clockwise. In the three-turn, Yuzu was travelling clockwise and he made the turn in the same direction. 

Have another look at the close up, see how in the bracket Yuzu turned by flicking his toe outward from the curve, while in the three-turn he turned by pulling his heel inward? This seemingly tiny difference is precisely what makes the bracket an advanced turn and the three-turn a basic. Don’t believe me? Try drawing a curly bracket and a number 3 on a piece of paper, you probably have never noticed this before but for the number 3, your pen follows a path that feels natural, whereas for the bracket, there’s a twist in the middle which makes it a bit awkward. That’s what happens to skaters when they do a bracket turn, only instead of hand on pen on paper they do it on one foot on literal blade on slippery ice (fun sport, this figure skating thing!).

One additional bit you might want to know is that the three-turn is used quite ubiquitously as the entrance, or part of the entrance, for the following jumps: toe loop, Salchow, and flip. See below Yuzu’s three-turn entrance to his quad toe and quad Sal:

Trivia break: the triple flip in Hope and Legacy was also entered using the three-turn, but since he’s Yuzuru Hanyu, middle name Extra, he used not one but three, yes, three, three-turns in lightning quick succession, illustration below: 

The edge changes on entrance were: (1) forward outside to back inside (2) back inside to forward outside and (3) forward outside to back inside - and back inside on the left foot is where Yuzu needed to be for the takeoff of the flip. He jumped, he rotated, he landed, and he exited with a twizzle, also highlighted in the real time gif above. (And that, kids, is how you make the judges dizzy with your jump and force them to punish you by giving you only +1.50 GOE instead of the maximum +2.10 you deserve.)

The next and final pair of turns is counter and rocker. These two are also siblings so again we’ll look at them together. Unlike bracket/three-turn, counter and rocker are turns that don’t involve a change of edge, only a change of direction (backward to forward and vice versa). What make these 2 turns difficult though is that they don’t follow a smooth crescent curve. While doing a counter or a rocker, the skater must change direction and switch curve at the same time. The difference between a rocker and a counter is the same difference as between a three-turn and a bracket: whether the turn itself is done following the entrance curve (which makes it a rocker) or counter to the entrance curve (which makes it, yeah, a counter). Below is path diagram for the 2 turns (again, courtesy of Wikipedia):

Now in real time:

And slow-mo:

The good news is, we can use the same trick to tell bracket and three-turn apart on counter and rocker: check the rotation of the turn against the direction of travel. In the counter, you see Yuzu started out travelling clockwise, then made the turn by rotating counterclockwise. In the rocker, the entrance and the turn itself were both in a counterclockwise direction.  One thing to note though is that due to the change of curve inherent in the counter/rocker, as you do this comparison make sure you benchmark the turn against the initial direction of travel, i.e., the entrance curve, because the exit curve will be on the opposite path and will mess up the logic of the trick.

Trivia break: you might’ve heard through the grapevine that there’s a thing that Yuzuru likes to do called a back counter triple Axel, you might’ve also wondered in passing what the hell that even means. Well, it means exactly what it says, it’s a triple Axel entered from a back outside counter turn, that is, a counter that starts with a back outside edge and ends in a forward outside edge (reminder: in counter and rocker turns, skater changes direction without changing edge). As we saw in the very beginning of this post, the Axel jump always takes off on a forward outside edge, so Yuzu uses that particular counter turn to set himself up in that necessary edge for the takeoff. The counter is arguably the most difficult turn and the Axel is unarguably the most difficult jump. Combining the two and you get what Yuzuru Hanyu eats for breakfast, so now you see why commentators all over the world go beside themselves every time he pulls one of those out of thin air.

Phew, even with divide and conquer, this ended up being a hell of a lot longer than I anticipated. Hope y'all are still alive and awake and not bored to death by all this technical drone.

See you next post with steps. In the meantime comments and feedback are most welcome, especially if there’s any point for which you think my explanation was not clear enough. I’ll try wording it some other way and/or throw in some more illustration. 

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[prorevenge]

My kid does 13K in damage to studio equip, we handle it like lunatics.

[Part 1]

Some background:

I'm an audio engineer and score arranger full time in my self-owned business. It's how I provide for myself, my fiancée (also CF), and my mother. I record, mix, and master for bands, voice-overs for local commercials, and write music for people's weddings, college films, indie games, etc.. It was my passion since I was a child and every day I ask myself why I get paid to do what I do.

You know, until today.

I had a woman schedule to come in because she wanted me to record her monologue for an acting class. I thought it was going to be easy enough. I set up a mic and a music stand in the sound booth and got my workstation prepped for tracking. She was supposed to show up at 3:30, so when 4:00 came around, I called her to ask her if she was still coming. It was my last contract for the day and I was wanting to get home to my fiancée, dogs, and dinner.

"Oh, sorry sweetie, I'm going to be there soon. I just had to get my son from ex-boyfriend."

Uh oh.

4:12, she showed up with her child.

To preface, I've never really wanted kids, and don't really hate them either. But I've been childfree of mind for a decade now in league of several bad child experiences in public.

Anyway, I sat her down at the conference table and tried to talk to her about the contract and billing, etc., and just couldn't because of the six-years-old pile of ovary droppings next to her.

"Mommy it's cold in here." "Mommy, I'm bored." "Mommy, that guy has girl hair." "Mommy, I want to play on the phone."

The incessant whining went on for the entirety of the discussion. She did nothing about it. I had an ache in my stomach that this might be a rough session.

I was right.

I showed her to the sound booth, positioned the mic at face level, told her the basics of mic use, and then she floored me with a question.

"Can my son stay in there with you while I do this?" I insisted that he wait in the conference room (across the hall from the control room) because the control room wasn't a very kid-friendly place considering the 120K of equipment at arms reach.

"But he's a little angel."

I shouldn't have taken her word for it. I SHOULD NOT have taken her word for it. This kid was ANYTHING but. I let him in, told him to sit in one of the office chairs and don't touch anything. Needless to say, he touched. I queued the recording arm and signaled her to start. She got three lines into her take before I hear a deafening screech and crash.

That little shit machine had just knocked over a $4,000 Korg into a rack with $9,500 of equipment. Completely shattered the touchscreen on the Korg, busted the dials off of half of the effects, and totaled my distressor that I use for almost all the vocals I track.

All of this, by the way, was the room's length apart from where I told the crotch goblin to stay.

The kid, because of the loud noise, started full-lung screaming. Not crying. Not yelling. Screaming.

The mother, with no hesitation, ran over to the control room and DEMANDED to know what I did to her child. She cussed at me and accused me of hurting her little snot monster. Threatened to sue and even swung at me. When I told her that her precious angel had just racked up at least twelve grand of damages, she said "good", spit on me, then stormed out, slamming every door on the way. So I pulled the security camera footage and had filed a police report. Grand total: $13,504.25. I also mailed her the bill for her session for good measure.

Of six years in the studio, this is my only truly terrible experience. Fuck mombies. Fuck having children. Thanks for making my vasectomy decision that much easier on me.

[Part 2]

I'm going to start off and say that this community is bad ass. With legal advice, moral support, and inquiry of the trade, you guys/gals/other have made this whole endeavor a bit easier on me.

Cheers.

Okay, since Sunday, I've managed to speak with my insurance company, my lawyer, some repair techs, the police (again), and my urologist. For the sake of good storytelling, I'll organize this chronically.

Monday:

I left a message for my insurance agent about all this. I then called some repair techs about getting my Korg and the distressor repaired to potential working order, and to no avail. The distressor would have costed two grand to repair (on a $1,320 piece), so I wait on my insurance payout to replace it. Korg, apparently, has no replacement parts available anywhere in the US for their flagship keyboard, so another $4k down the drain. The dials on the rest of the effects rack can be easily fixed. May not look as stellar, but what can you do. At least it survived an attack from an over-metastasized cumshot. I ordered replacement dials from my local electronics store and mailed out the session bill to Mombie. Beyond that, I got in touch with a friend in Memphis who was gracious enough to lend me his Portico 5042 in the meantime. Should be arriving some time Friday.

Tuesday:

Boy oh boy. I went to my lawyer's office to see what could be done about Mombie's actions. He's thinking it'd just be best to let the insurance company go after the property damages, and that it'd be too expensive for me to recruit him for what the insurance company will do by themselves. As per the assaults are concerned, he asked me to gather all evidence (Video, contract, police report) and said that since no bodily harm was caused, it'd be the best idea to go to civil court rather than criminal, and file for a protective order. The words "emotional damages" were emphasized. He was very specific about not posting any of the evidence. As long as what I post remains vague, doesn't mention any identifying information, it doesn't stand in court.

"Make sure you can say it is a made up story if asked."

We also discussed revising my contract, more info on that when we get to it. Beyond that, I decided to jump the gun and inquire about a vasectomy. I have an appointment with my GP on the 7th of March.

Wednesday:

Reader beware, this is where it gets cringy. I'd grab a stiff drink if I were you. I opened the studio back up and got back to work. I had a voicemail left for me on the studio phone. A "lawyer", toting the most deep fried country accent I've heard, called me from a "Ford & Handcock" law firm (which I couldn't find anywhere on the internet) threatening "Immediate sueing" for "Sexual rape harassment" for filing a police report against his "client."

Here's the transcript of what I could understand through his dumpster fire of an accent: (I swear I'm not making this up) "Yeah, this is [withheld] from Ford & Handcock callin' to tell you that you're gonna get immediate sueing for what you did to my girlfri- client and her baby boy. Y'all know as well as I do that [unintelligible noises] was nothin' short of sexual rape harassment and that you're goin' ta be in a lawsuit if you don't delete the cop report you made up(?)."

I couldn't breathe, I was laughing too hard.

Once I regained my composure, I called back to inquire about this impending doom that I was promised by this product-of-incest harbinger. The call was forwarded to their voicemail inbox, where it opened up with the aforementioned accent, saying:

"Hey, this is [different name than the "lawyer"] and [mombie's name] and we're not here right now so if you could leave..."

So on.

So I just hung up and called my fiancee, emailed her the voicemail and asked her to listen to it, just to hear her sniffling and cackling like a maniac at the sound of this guy's six-inches-deep-in-cousin accent and overall misunderstanding of the american law system. I recorded the voicemail onto a thumbstick and giving it to my lawyer along with the video, police report, etc..

Thursday:

As of this morning, no call back from my insurance adjuster, so I'm just going to wait on that. I'm sitting by the phone, so if I get another call from "Ford & Handcock", I can deliver the "Do not call back/stop harassing me" line, so I can add that to the list of potential charges if it becomes a thing. Not very much else happened beyond that, and I'll keep you lot updated. Thanks for your support. *Edited to fix a phone auto-correct, what was supposed to say "Ford & Handcock" said "Ford & Hitchcock". Sorry all.

[Part 3]

There has been a... development with the mombie, dr /professor/lawyer/part time absent-father from Ford and Handcock.

I said in the update I posted before (Links at the bottom) that I had a call from a "lawyer" from one "Ford and Handcock", and am practically on standby for another call from said "lawyer".

Well, that call came on Friday.

So, guy called back, my fiancee was in the studio with me while we were taking turns playing Dishonored 2 on a "workstation" pc doing very important adult-like studio work, and his message for me was practically a carbon copy of the last one. I gave him the "Do not call back/stop harassing me" bit, to which he said

"That law don't apply to me. I'm a laawwyyeerr. I can do whatever the hell I need to do to do the law, even if it takes lethal deadly force" [sic]

Given the threat, I called the police, filed a report, gave them the original recording of the call and kept a copy for myself.

My wife-to-be did notice that the inbred gave the pseudonym "Conrad McMasters", which she recognized from the TV show "Matlock". Go figure.

So, skipping on to tonight.

We came back to the studio to pick up a laptop for my mum to use while in the hospital (just a minor fall injury, she'll make a full recovery), and noticed that the handle on the exterior door had been jerked loose. So, I told Fiancee to get back into the car and park down the street, have 911 dialed, don't come out until the all clear, call the police if she heard gunshots. I drew my handgun and looked around the place.

I didn't find anything, but the windows and outside door were damaged with what seemed like an attempted break-in, and a "Cash Express" post-it-note stuck to the stoop that said "U fucked up".

Shout out to U/VanillaG6790 (hope I'm formatting this correctly) for suggesting that I put cameras outside the studio alongside the interior ones. I only have one installed as of yet (DIY), facing the front door. So, I made sure nobody was around, waved Fiancee back to the studio, we got in, locked up, and backed up the security footage to see what we could find.

Lo and Behold, Mombie's car. A man (maybe the singletoothed re-imagining of Mr. McMasters from before?) yanked on the outside door with the veracity of a chimpanzee in the prime of mating season, walked out of frame (in the direction of the aforementioned windows) and stayed out of frame for about fifteen minutes, before returning just to scribble on the note and stick it on the stoop. He then saw the camera, shot the biggest 'O SHIT' face, and scurried back to his methmobile and sped off.

So to recap, we have a clear-view copy of:

His license plate

His attempted breaking-and-entering

His face. The pez-dispenser looking motherfucker practically spiked the lens for five seconds.

Police were called for this too. Details will be submitted post-trial, and I'll contact my lawyer first thing in the morning.

I tried doing it just now, but, DUH, it's Sunday, his office is closed.

Anyway, you guys are awesome. The advice I'm getting from you lot is saving me so much grief. I'm contacting the Bar association to tell them about the actions of Dr./Professor/Matlock-Impersonator/absent-father.

By the way, Meeting with GP (and then hopefully my urologist) next Tuesday in attempts at getting snipped.

Oh, and I've gotten most of the dials my equipment repaired, I ordered another KRONOS, another distressor, and got the Portico 5042 on Friday as a temporary stand-in. I have to give it to the Portico. Not bad. Not bad at all.

I'll keep you all updated as things happen, but I'm not sure when it may be. I'll post a micro-update on how the appointment goes on the 7th.

(source) (story by deleted)

#pro revenge #by robertjslagle #prorevenge #revenge stories #pro revenge stories #pro #revenge

[samanthasroberts]

The 10 Most Difficult-to-Defend Online Fandoms

Oh, fandom. So passionate, so partisan—and, too often these days, so prolifically peevish. From Tumblr and Wattpad to more mainstream platforms like Twitter and Instagram, online communities have served as rallying points for stan armies: obsessives who comb over every interview and shred of non-news for information about the object of their adoration. But increasingly, fandoms' emotions have been curdling into a different kind of potion; something petty, entitled, conspiratorial, even abusive. So on the occasion of San Diego Comic-Con, one of the biggest fan events in the world, it's time for some tough love.

First, a note: this is a look at toxic strains that exist within a larger fandom, not an indictment of a given artist or person. Fandom is a pure and precious thing, and no one should feel conflicted about being invested in a pop-culture figure or property. If you express that investment by being a worse person, though—treating appreciation like warfare, demanding dogmatic purity tests, attacking people, or seeing yourself as some kind of a crusader—than it's probably time to take some time and re-assess things. We're sure nothing in the following catalog sounds like anything you've done in the name of fandom, right? Enjoy Comic-Con!

10. Barbz (Nicki Minaj Fandom)

The Barbz are a fiercely loyal sort. Case in point: In April, upon the release of Invasion of Privacy, a writer for British GQ explained how Cardi B had adopted Nicki Minaj’s style in a much more accessible way. “Nicki intimidates; Cardi endears,” she wrote. Minaj disciples responded with an all-out attack. The GQ staffer was flooded with malicious tweets, ranging from the direct (“I will kill u bitch”) to even more direct (“You better to delete that before we get your address and start hunting you and your family down!!”) The following month, the Barbz turned on one of their own when a self-proclaimed fan wondered aloud on Twitter: “You know how dope it would be if Nicki put out mature content? No silly shit, just reflecting on past relationships, being a boss, hardships, etc.” (Minaj took it further and DMed a disgustingly petty reply to the fan). For Barbz, fandom doesn’t allow for dissent—even when it's not dissent but a valid, healthy appraisal. This may come as a surprise, y'all, but love and criticism are not mutually exclusive.

9. Swifties (Taylor Swift Fandom)

Generally speaking, Taylor Swift’s fans aren’t bad—they just really love Swift and tend to be a little over-the-top about it. And most of the time, that’s what fandom is. (Also, this is a pop star who sends holiday presents to them; she’s earned their devotion.) But within that group, the “Bad Blood” singer has a few bad apples. There are those who go after Hayley Kiyoko for daring to point out that she shouldn’t be criticized for singing about women when Swift sings about men all the time. (Swift actually agrees with Kiyoko on that point.) There are Swifties who get bent out of shape when she doesn’t get nominated for enough awards. And then there are the white supremacists—fans Swift seems to have done nothing to court, but pop up anyway. Yeah, the ones who call her an “Aryan goddess”? Those are the ones who give her a bad reputation.

8. Zack Snyder Fans

Look, Zack Snyder's hardcore supporters have it rough. Or, well, they think they do. They’ve hitched their wagon to a star that occasionally blinks out. He’s made some OK movies (Dawn of the Dead, Watchmen) but he’s made even more that have been trashed by critics: Sucker Punch; Man of Steel; Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice. That's led to a persecution complex among more than a few of his stans. While this kerfuffle has died down a bit with Snyder's step back from the spotlight—recently, he has shifted focus to make iPhone movies and produce the DC movies rather than direct them—the coming years represent a reckoning. James Wan’s Aquaman and Patty Jenkins' Wonder Woman sequel are headed to theaters, and the receptions they get may determine whether critics have complaints with all DC movies, or just the ones with Snyder behind the camera. In the meantime, though, his own personal justice league will be there to defend it.

7. Rick and Morty Fans

Yes, Dan Harmon and Justin Roiland created a funny, smart, challenging (god, those burps) cartoon. Yes, it delivers a bizarro Back to the Future ride through both spacetime and genre tropes. Yes, it's the most STEM-conscious animated show since Futurama. But sweet tapdancing Pickle Rick, you've never seen a TV fandom more noisome than this one. There's the "this show is so smart normies don't get it" self-congratulation that's so over-the-top it became a copypasta meme; there's the propensity to doxx the show's female writers and generally be such venal stains that Harmon despises them; there's the mass freakout after McDonald's ran out of limited-edition Szechuan dipping sauce. (Yes, that's correct.) While Adult Swim recently renewed the show for 70 new episodes, there's going to be quite a lull before anyone sees a new episode—here's hoping the fans grow up a little bit in the meantime.

6. #TeamBreezy (Chris Brown Fandom)

It’s been almost a decade since reports first surfaced of Chris Brown’s violent abuse of then-girlfriend Rihanna. Since then, Rihanna has rocketed to pop superstardom while Brown’s career has strided along, aided by a loyal following that borders on enablers. Despite an earnest-seeming redemption tour, reports of Brown’s violent behavior continue to bubble up: Brown’s ex-girlfriend filed for a restraining order; Brown went on a homophobic Twitter rant; Brown punched a fan in a nightclub; Brown locked a woman in his home, without a cell phone, so she could be sexually assaulted. (Brown’s camp denies that last accusation.) Yet, Team Breezy generally attributes such reports to misinformation and "haters." Fandoms are built on stand-by-your-man loyalty, but at some point it becomes impossible to love the art in good conscience. If the #MeToo movement is any indication, the times have changed since Rihanna’s bloody face headlined gossip sites. Willful ignorance is no longer an acceptable choice.

5. XXXtentacion Fans

On June 18, outside of a Broward County motorcycle dealership, 20-year-old Jahseh Onfroy was fatally gunned down by two assailants. At the time of his death, Onfroy, who rapped under the moniker XXXTentacion, had already amassed a rare kind of fame: He attracted deep love and even deeper hate with a ferocious mania. The allure of Onfroy’s dark matter inspired the type of fandom that spills into violent obsession. A recurring source of vitriol for the rapper, and an easy target for his rabid fanbase, was his ex-girlfriend, Geneva Ayala, who filed multiple charges against the rapper (including aggravated battery of a pregnant woman, domestic battery by strangulation, and witness tampering). When it came to light that Ayala created a GoFundMe campaign to raise money for hospital bills due to damage inflicted by Onfroy, his fans bullied her into exile: forcing her to delete Instagram, hacking her Twitter account, harassing her at work to the point that she was left with no option but to quit, and shutting down her GoFundMe (it was later reopened). Having made a name for himself on Soundcloud, where he often engaged issues of mental health in his music, Onfroy willingly embraced his demons (he once called himself “lil dylan roof” on Twitter, referencing the Charleston shooter who murdered nine parishioners in South Carolina in 2015). But even now, in death, XXX is a reminder that extreme fandom has the power to blind people to the blood on their own hands.

4. Logang (Logan Paul Fandom)

Let’s get this out of the way up front. Many, even most, of Logan Paul’s fans are literal children. And so if you ask us who is really responsible for their bad behavior, we’re going to have to say the fault is predominantly with Paul and, you know, other adults. But the Logang (or the Logangsters, depending on who you ask), like Lil Tay, are inventing a new category of internet villain: the terrifying baby troll. They do all the things adult trolls do—parrot back the sexist and racist things Pauls says, stalk him outside hotel rooms, and harass and troll the “haters” daring to criticize their deeply problematic idol—but they’re kids! So you can’t really fire back at them without being a jerk yourself. Listen, Logang: all Logan wants to do is sell you merch. He’s not really your friend. Can I interest you in a puppy video?

3. Bro Army (Pewdiepie Fandom)

First rule of non-toxic fandoms: Don’t call yourselves "bro," don’t call yourselves an "army," and definitely don’t call yourselves the Bro Army. People might assume you’re a bunch of flame-war-loving trolls who think girls are icky—and where YouTuber PewDiePie’s fans are concerned, everyone would be absolutely right. It’s not just that they’ve stuck with the Swedish gamer/alleged comedian as he peppered his videos with racial slurs, rape jokes, anti-Semitism, and homophobia for nearly a decade (though that’s bad enough). It’s also that they insist that PewDiePie somehow isn’t being hateful at all. Oh, and if you quote their hero back at them, they’ll wallpaper your social media accounts with thoughtful messages about how you suck—for years.

2. The Dark Side of Star Wars Fandom

The most recent eruption has been a hilariously non-ironic campaign to remake The Last Jedi, but that's sadly just the latest in a long line of online grossness from the entitled Sith-heads who are so keen on reclaiming the Star Wars universe . Somehow, Gamergate has come to a galaxy far, far away; hectoring, harassment, even death threats aimed at director Rian Johnson. To be clear, this is a tiny (if vocal) subset of Star Wars fandom, which on the whole is as joyous and inclusive as the universe is finally becoming. But to to quote our own Adam Rogers:

"Everyone has a right to opinions about movies. Everyone has a right, I guess, to throw those opinions in the face of the people who make those movies, though it does seem at minimum impolite. Everyone has the right to ask transnational entertainment companies to make the movies they want, and if those companies don’t respond, to stop giving the companies money. But harassment, threats, jokes about someone’s race or gender? A Jedi would fight someone who did that stuff. The Force binds us all together. Hatred and anger are the ways of the Dark Side; they may bring power, but at a cost. It harms individuals, debases the people who do it, and it breaks the Fellowship. In the end, the cost of that power will be powerlessness."

1. Elon Musk Acolytes

"Always punch up" is a good life motto. You’ll accomplish a lot by speaking truth to power; dissecting the misdeeds of a relative unknown, though, makes you look like a tool. That’s why, despite the plethora of dark and toxic fandoms that flourish on the fringes of the internet, the group that tops our list of nasties is devoted to a person at the internet's very center: Elon Musk. To his fan club, Musk is so much more than a charismatic artist, a talented musician, or, hey, a flawed but successful tech entrepreneur—he’s a messiah, a vestige of an age of retrograde masculinity, when a reasonably successful man could expect his ideas to remain unchecked and his words be read as gospel. And Musk wields his one-man metaphor status (and his 22.3 million follower army) to whack out any dissenting opinions. “Because before he commented on my tweet, it was floundering in relative obscurity,” science writer Erin Biba wrote in a piece for the Daily Beast. But after Musk’s dismissive response, Biba found herself drowning in hate mail and abuse. By letting his mob pick over opinions he does not like, Musk is able to control the narrative, playing up investigative reporting on Tesla’s poor labor practices as a misinformation campaign—or even, in some recent deleted tweets, insinuating that one of the people involved with the Thai cave rescue efforts is a pedophile. It’s bad to be thin-skinned, and terrible to play the underdog, but playing it while you ignite a million-man bullying campaign is reprehensible.

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Source: http://allofbeer.com/the-10-most-difficult-to-defend-online-fandoms/

from All of Beer https://allofbeer.wordpress.com/2019/03/20/the-10-most-difficult-to-defend-online-fandoms/

[adambstingus]

The 10 Most Difficult-to-Defend Online Fandoms

Oh, fandom. So passionate, so partisan—and, too often these days, so prolifically peevish. From Tumblr and Wattpad to more mainstream platforms like Twitter and Instagram, online communities have served as rallying points for stan armies: obsessives who comb over every interview and shred of non-news for information about the object of their adoration. But increasingly, fandoms’ emotions have been curdling into a different kind of potion; something petty, entitled, conspiratorial, even abusive. So on the occasion of San Diego Comic-Con, one of the biggest fan events in the world, it’s time for some tough love.

First, a note: this is a look at toxic strains that exist within a larger fandom, not an indictment of a given artist or person. Fandom is a pure and precious thing, and no one should feel conflicted about being invested in a pop-culture figure or property. If you express that investment by being a worse person, though—treating appreciation like warfare, demanding dogmatic purity tests, attacking people, or seeing yourself as some kind of a crusader—than it’s probably time to take some time and re-assess things. We’re sure nothing in the following catalog sounds like anything you’ve done in the name of fandom, right? Enjoy Comic-Con!

10. Barbz (Nicki Minaj Fandom)

The Barbz are a fiercely loyal sort. Case in point: In April, upon the release of Invasion of Privacy, a writer for British GQ explained how Cardi B had adopted Nicki Minaj’s style in a much more accessible way. “Nicki intimidates; Cardi endears,” she wrote. Minaj disciples responded with an all-out attack. The GQ staffer was flooded with malicious tweets, ranging from the direct (“I will kill u bitch”) to even more direct (“You better to delete that before we get your address and start hunting you and your family down!!”) The following month, the Barbz turned on one of their own when a self-proclaimed fan wondered aloud on Twitter: “You know how dope it would be if Nicki put out mature content? No silly shit, just reflecting on past relationships, being a boss, hardships, etc.” (Minaj took it further and DMed a disgustingly petty reply to the fan). For Barbz, fandom doesn’t allow for dissent—even when it’s not dissent but a valid, healthy appraisal. This may come as a surprise, y'all, but love and criticism are not mutually exclusive.

9. Swifties (Taylor Swift Fandom)

Generally speaking, Taylor Swift’s fans aren’t bad—they just really love Swift and tend to be a little over-the-top about it. And most of the time, that’s what fandom is. (Also, this is a pop star who sends holiday presents to them; she’s earned their devotion.) But within that group, the “Bad Blood” singer has a few bad apples. There are those who go after Hayley Kiyoko for daring to point out that she shouldn’t be criticized for singing about women when Swift sings about men all the time. (Swift actually agrees with Kiyoko on that point.) There are Swifties who get bent out of shape when she doesn’t get nominated for enough awards. And then there are the white supremacists—fans Swift seems to have done nothing to court, but pop up anyway. Yeah, the ones who call her an “Aryan goddess”? Those are the ones who give her a bad reputation.

8. Zack Snyder Fans

Look, Zack Snyder’s hardcore supporters have it rough. Or, well, they think they do. They’ve hitched their wagon to a star that occasionally blinks out. He’s made some OK movies (Dawn of the Dead, Watchmen) but he’s made even more that have been trashed by critics: Sucker Punch; Man of Steel; Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice. That’s led to a persecution complex among more than a few of his stans. While this kerfuffle has died down a bit with Snyder’s step back from the spotlight—recently, he has shifted focus to make iPhone movies and produce the DC movies rather than direct them—the coming years represent a reckoning. James Wan’s Aquaman and Patty Jenkins’ Wonder Woman sequel are headed to theaters, and the receptions they get may determine whether critics have complaints with all DC movies, or just the ones with Snyder behind the camera. In the meantime, though, his own personal justice league will be there to defend it.

7. Rick and Morty Fans

Yes, Dan Harmon and Justin Roiland created a funny, smart, challenging (god, those burps) cartoon. Yes, it delivers a bizarro Back to the Future ride through both spacetime and genre tropes. Yes, it’s the most STEM-conscious animated show since Futurama. But sweet tapdancing Pickle Rick, you’ve never seen a TV fandom more noisome than this one. There’s the “this show is so smart normies don’t get it” self-congratulation that’s so over-the-top it became a copypasta meme; there’s the propensity to doxx the show’s female writers and generally be such venal stains that Harmon despises them; there’s the mass freakout after McDonald’s ran out of limited-edition Szechuan dipping sauce. (Yes, that’s correct.) While Adult Swim recently renewed the show for 70 new episodes, there’s going to be quite a lull before anyone sees a new episode—here’s hoping the fans grow up a little bit in the meantime.

6. #TeamBreezy (Chris Brown Fandom)

It’s been almost a decade since reports first surfaced of Chris Brown’s violent abuse of then-girlfriend Rihanna. Since then, Rihanna has rocketed to pop superstardom while Brown’s career has strided along, aided by a loyal following that borders on enablers. Despite an earnest-seeming redemption tour, reports of Brown’s violent behavior continue to bubble up: Brown’s ex-girlfriend filed for a restraining order; Brown went on a homophobic Twitter rant; Brown punched a fan in a nightclub; Brown locked a woman in his home, without a cell phone, so she could be sexually assaulted. (Brown’s camp denies that last accusation.) Yet, Team Breezy generally attributes such reports to misinformation and “haters.” Fandoms are built on stand-by-your-man loyalty, but at some point it becomes impossible to love the art in good conscience. If the #MeToo movement is any indication, the times have changed since Rihanna’s bloody face headlined gossip sites. Willful ignorance is no longer an acceptable choice.

5. XXXtentacion Fans

On June 18, outside of a Broward County motorcycle dealership, 20-year-old Jahseh Onfroy was fatally gunned down by two assailants. At the time of his death, Onfroy, who rapped under the moniker XXXTentacion, had already amassed a rare kind of fame: He attracted deep love and even deeper hate with a ferocious mania. The allure of Onfroy’s dark matter inspired the type of fandom that spills into violent obsession. A recurring source of vitriol for the rapper, and an easy target for his rabid fanbase, was his ex-girlfriend, Geneva Ayala, who filed multiple charges against the rapper (including aggravated battery of a pregnant woman, domestic battery by strangulation, and witness tampering). When it came to light that Ayala created a GoFundMe campaign to raise money for hospital bills due to damage inflicted by Onfroy, his fans bullied her into exile: forcing her to delete Instagram, hacking her Twitter account, harassing her at work to the point that she was left with no option but to quit, and shutting down her GoFundMe (it was later reopened). Having made a name for himself on Soundcloud, where he often engaged issues of mental health in his music, Onfroy willingly embraced his demons (he once called himself “lil dylan roof” on Twitter, referencing the Charleston shooter who murdered nine parishioners in South Carolina in 2015). But even now, in death, XXX is a reminder that extreme fandom has the power to blind people to the blood on their own hands.

4. Logang (Logan Paul Fandom)

Let’s get this out of the way up front. Many, even most, of Logan Paul’s fans are literal children. And so if you ask us who is really responsible for their bad behavior, we’re going to have to say the fault is predominantly with Paul and, you know, other adults. But the Logang (or the Logangsters, depending on who you ask), like Lil Tay, are inventing a new category of internet villain: the terrifying baby troll. They do all the things adult trolls do—parrot back the sexist and racist things Pauls says, stalk him outside hotel rooms, and harass and troll the “haters” daring to criticize their deeply problematic idol—but they’re kids! So you can’t really fire back at them without being a jerk yourself. Listen, Logang: all Logan wants to do is sell you merch. He’s not really your friend. Can I interest you in a puppy video?

3. Bro Army (Pewdiepie Fandom)

First rule of non-toxic fandoms: Don’t call yourselves “bro,” don’t call yourselves an “army,” and definitely don’t call yourselves the Bro Army. People might assume you’re a bunch of flame-war-loving trolls who think girls are icky—and where YouTuber PewDiePie’s fans are concerned, everyone would be absolutely right. It’s not just that they’ve stuck with the Swedish gamer/alleged comedian as he peppered his videos with racial slurs, rape jokes, anti-Semitism, and homophobia for nearly a decade (though that’s bad enough). It’s also that they insist that PewDiePie somehow isn’t being hateful at all. Oh, and if you quote their hero back at them, they’ll wallpaper your social media accounts with thoughtful messages about how you suck—for years.

2. The Dark Side of Star Wars Fandom

The most recent eruption has been a hilariously non-ironic campaign to remake The Last Jedi, but that’s sadly just the latest in a long line of online grossness from the entitled Sith-heads who are so keen on reclaiming the Star Wars universe . Somehow, Gamergate has come to a galaxy far, far away; hectoring, harassment, even death threats aimed at director Rian Johnson. To be clear, this is a tiny (if vocal) subset of Star Wars fandom, which on the whole is as joyous and inclusive as the universe is finally becoming. But to to quote our own Adam Rogers:

“Everyone has a right to opinions about movies. Everyone has a right, I guess, to throw those opinions in the face of the people who make those movies, though it does seem at minimum impolite. Everyone has the right to ask transnational entertainment companies to make the movies they want, and if those companies don’t respond, to stop giving the companies money. But harassment, threats, jokes about someone’s race or gender? A Jedi would fight someone who did that stuff. The Force binds us all together. Hatred and anger are the ways of the Dark Side; they may bring power, but at a cost. It harms individuals, debases the people who do it, and it breaks the Fellowship. In the end, the cost of that power will be powerlessness.”

1. Elon Musk Acolytes

“Always punch up” is a good life motto. You’ll accomplish a lot by speaking truth to power; dissecting the misdeeds of a relative unknown, though, makes you look like a tool. That’s why, despite the plethora of dark and toxic fandoms that flourish on the fringes of the internet, the group that tops our list of nasties is devoted to a person at the internet’s very center: Elon Musk. To his fan club, Musk is so much more than a charismatic artist, a talented musician, or, hey, a flawed but successful tech entrepreneur—he’s a messiah, a vestige of an age of retrograde masculinity, when a reasonably successful man could expect his ideas to remain unchecked and his words be read as gospel. And Musk wields his one-man metaphor status (and his 22.3 million follower army) to whack out any dissenting opinions. “Because before he commented on my tweet, it was floundering in relative obscurity,” science writer Erin Biba wrote in a piece for the Daily Beast. But after Musk’s dismissive response, Biba found herself drowning in hate mail and abuse. By letting his mob pick over opinions he does not like, Musk is able to control the narrative, playing up investigative reporting on Tesla’s poor labor practices as a misinformation campaign—or even, in some recent deleted tweets, insinuating that one of the people involved with the Thai cave rescue efforts is a pedophile. It’s bad to be thin-skinned, and terrible to play the underdog, but playing it while you ignite a million-man bullying campaign is reprehensible.

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How To Battle Trolling Ad Hominem Attacks Online

An internet troll’s favorite way to argue? Ad hominem, of course! This is your guide to spotting bad arguments on the internet and how to fight them.

from All Of Beer http://allofbeer.com/the-10-most-difficult-to-defend-online-fandoms/ from All of Beer https://allofbeercom.tumblr.com/post/183577966647

[allofbeercom]

The 10 Most Difficult-to-Defend Online Fandoms

Oh, fandom. So passionate, so partisan—and, too often these days, so prolifically peevish. From Tumblr and Wattpad to more mainstream platforms like Twitter and Instagram, online communities have served as rallying points for stan armies: obsessives who comb over every interview and shred of non-news for information about the object of their adoration. But increasingly, fandoms' emotions have been curdling into a different kind of potion; something petty, entitled, conspiratorial, even abusive. So on the occasion of San Diego Comic-Con, one of the biggest fan events in the world, it's time for some tough love.

First, a note: this is a look at toxic strains that exist within a larger fandom, not an indictment of a given artist or person. Fandom is a pure and precious thing, and no one should feel conflicted about being invested in a pop-culture figure or property. If you express that investment by being a worse person, though—treating appreciation like warfare, demanding dogmatic purity tests, attacking people, or seeing yourself as some kind of a crusader—than it's probably time to take some time and re-assess things. We're sure nothing in the following catalog sounds like anything you've done in the name of fandom, right? Enjoy Comic-Con!

10. Barbz (Nicki Minaj Fandom)

The Barbz are a fiercely loyal sort. Case in point: In April, upon the release of Invasion of Privacy, a writer for British GQ explained how Cardi B had adopted Nicki Minaj’s style in a much more accessible way. “Nicki intimidates; Cardi endears,” she wrote. Minaj disciples responded with an all-out attack. The GQ staffer was flooded with malicious tweets, ranging from the direct (“I will kill u bitch”) to even more direct (“You better to delete that before we get your address and start hunting you and your family down!!”) The following month, the Barbz turned on one of their own when a self-proclaimed fan wondered aloud on Twitter: “You know how dope it would be if Nicki put out mature content? No silly shit, just reflecting on past relationships, being a boss, hardships, etc.” (Minaj took it further and DMed a disgustingly petty reply to the fan). For Barbz, fandom doesn’t allow for dissent—even when it's not dissent but a valid, healthy appraisal. This may come as a surprise, y'all, but love and criticism are not mutually exclusive.

9. Swifties (Taylor Swift Fandom)

Generally speaking, Taylor Swift’s fans aren’t bad—they just really love Swift and tend to be a little over-the-top about it. And most of the time, that’s what fandom is. (Also, this is a pop star who sends holiday presents to them; she’s earned their devotion.) But within that group, the “Bad Blood” singer has a few bad apples. There are those who go after Hayley Kiyoko for daring to point out that she shouldn’t be criticized for singing about women when Swift sings about men all the time. (Swift actually agrees with Kiyoko on that point.) There are Swifties who get bent out of shape when she doesn’t get nominated for enough awards. And then there are the white supremacists—fans Swift seems to have done nothing to court, but pop up anyway. Yeah, the ones who call her an “Aryan goddess”? Those are the ones who give her a bad reputation.

8. Zack Snyder Fans

Look, Zack Snyder's hardcore supporters have it rough. Or, well, they think they do. They’ve hitched their wagon to a star that occasionally blinks out. He’s made some OK movies (Dawn of the Dead, Watchmen) but he’s made even more that have been trashed by critics: Sucker Punch; Man of Steel; Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice. That's led to a persecution complex among more than a few of his stans. While this kerfuffle has died down a bit with Snyder's step back from the spotlight—recently, he has shifted focus to make iPhone movies and produce the DC movies rather than direct them—the coming years represent a reckoning. James Wan’s Aquaman and Patty Jenkins' Wonder Woman sequel are headed to theaters, and the receptions they get may determine whether critics have complaints with all DC movies, or just the ones with Snyder behind the camera. In the meantime, though, his own personal justice league will be there to defend it.

7. Rick and Morty Fans

Yes, Dan Harmon and Justin Roiland created a funny, smart, challenging (god, those burps) cartoon. Yes, it delivers a bizarro Back to the Future ride through both spacetime and genre tropes. Yes, it's the most STEM-conscious animated show since Futurama. But sweet tapdancing Pickle Rick, you've never seen a TV fandom more noisome than this one. There's the "this show is so smart normies don't get it" self-congratulation that's so over-the-top it became a copypasta meme; there's the propensity to doxx the show's female writers and generally be such venal stains that Harmon despises them; there's the mass freakout after McDonald's ran out of limited-edition Szechuan dipping sauce. (Yes, that's correct.) While Adult Swim recently renewed the show for 70 new episodes, there's going to be quite a lull before anyone sees a new episode—here's hoping the fans grow up a little bit in the meantime.

6. #TeamBreezy (Chris Brown Fandom)

It’s been almost a decade since reports first surfaced of Chris Brown’s violent abuse of then-girlfriend Rihanna. Since then, Rihanna has rocketed to pop superstardom while Brown’s career has strided along, aided by a loyal following that borders on enablers. Despite an earnest-seeming redemption tour, reports of Brown’s violent behavior continue to bubble up: Brown’s ex-girlfriend filed for a restraining order; Brown went on a homophobic Twitter rant; Brown punched a fan in a nightclub; Brown locked a woman in his home, without a cell phone, so she could be sexually assaulted. (Brown’s camp denies that last accusation.) Yet, Team Breezy generally attributes such reports to misinformation and "haters." Fandoms are built on stand-by-your-man loyalty, but at some point it becomes impossible to love the art in good conscience. If the #MeToo movement is any indication, the times have changed since Rihanna’s bloody face headlined gossip sites. Willful ignorance is no longer an acceptable choice.

5. XXXtentacion Fans

On June 18, outside of a Broward County motorcycle dealership, 20-year-old Jahseh Onfroy was fatally gunned down by two assailants. At the time of his death, Onfroy, who rapped under the moniker XXXTentacion, had already amassed a rare kind of fame: He attracted deep love and even deeper hate with a ferocious mania. The allure of Onfroy’s dark matter inspired the type of fandom that spills into violent obsession. A recurring source of vitriol for the rapper, and an easy target for his rabid fanbase, was his ex-girlfriend, Geneva Ayala, who filed multiple charges against the rapper (including aggravated battery of a pregnant woman, domestic battery by strangulation, and witness tampering). When it came to light that Ayala created a GoFundMe campaign to raise money for hospital bills due to damage inflicted by Onfroy, his fans bullied her into exile: forcing her to delete Instagram, hacking her Twitter account, harassing her at work to the point that she was left with no option but to quit, and shutting down her GoFundMe (it was later reopened). Having made a name for himself on Soundcloud, where he often engaged issues of mental health in his music, Onfroy willingly embraced his demons (he once called himself “lil dylan roof” on Twitter, referencing the Charleston shooter who murdered nine parishioners in South Carolina in 2015). But even now, in death, XXX is a reminder that extreme fandom has the power to blind people to the blood on their own hands.

4. Logang (Logan Paul Fandom)

Let’s get this out of the way up front. Many, even most, of Logan Paul’s fans are literal children. And so if you ask us who is really responsible for their bad behavior, we’re going to have to say the fault is predominantly with Paul and, you know, other adults. But the Logang (or the Logangsters, depending on who you ask), like Lil Tay, are inventing a new category of internet villain: the terrifying baby troll. They do all the things adult trolls do—parrot back the sexist and racist things Pauls says, stalk him outside hotel rooms, and harass and troll the “haters” daring to criticize their deeply problematic idol—but they’re kids! So you can’t really fire back at them without being a jerk yourself. Listen, Logang: all Logan wants to do is sell you merch. He’s not really your friend. Can I interest you in a puppy video?

3. Bro Army (Pewdiepie Fandom)

First rule of non-toxic fandoms: Don’t call yourselves "bro," don’t call yourselves an "army," and definitely don’t call yourselves the Bro Army. People might assume you’re a bunch of flame-war-loving trolls who think girls are icky—and where YouTuber PewDiePie’s fans are concerned, everyone would be absolutely right. It’s not just that they’ve stuck with the Swedish gamer/alleged comedian as he peppered his videos with racial slurs, rape jokes, anti-Semitism, and homophobia for nearly a decade (though that’s bad enough). It’s also that they insist that PewDiePie somehow isn’t being hateful at all. Oh, and if you quote their hero back at them, they’ll wallpaper your social media accounts with thoughtful messages about how you suck—for years.

2. The Dark Side of Star Wars Fandom

The most recent eruption has been a hilariously non-ironic campaign to remake The Last Jedi, but that's sadly just the latest in a long line of online grossness from the entitled Sith-heads who are so keen on reclaiming the Star Wars universe . Somehow, Gamergate has come to a galaxy far, far away; hectoring, harassment, even death threats aimed at director Rian Johnson. To be clear, this is a tiny (if vocal) subset of Star Wars fandom, which on the whole is as joyous and inclusive as the universe is finally becoming. But to to quote our own Adam Rogers:

"Everyone has a right to opinions about movies. Everyone has a right, I guess, to throw those opinions in the face of the people who make those movies, though it does seem at minimum impolite. Everyone has the right to ask transnational entertainment companies to make the movies they want, and if those companies don’t respond, to stop giving the companies money. But harassment, threats, jokes about someone’s race or gender? A Jedi would fight someone who did that stuff. The Force binds us all together. Hatred and anger are the ways of the Dark Side; they may bring power, but at a cost. It harms individuals, debases the people who do it, and it breaks the Fellowship. In the end, the cost of that power will be powerlessness."

1. Elon Musk Acolytes

"Always punch up" is a good life motto. You’ll accomplish a lot by speaking truth to power; dissecting the misdeeds of a relative unknown, though, makes you look like a tool. That’s why, despite the plethora of dark and toxic fandoms that flourish on the fringes of the internet, the group that tops our list of nasties is devoted to a person at the internet's very center: Elon Musk. To his fan club, Musk is so much more than a charismatic artist, a talented musician, or, hey, a flawed but successful tech entrepreneur—he’s a messiah, a vestige of an age of retrograde masculinity, when a reasonably successful man could expect his ideas to remain unchecked and his words be read as gospel. And Musk wields his one-man metaphor status (and his 22.3 million follower army) to whack out any dissenting opinions. “Because before he commented on my tweet, it was floundering in relative obscurity,” science writer Erin Biba wrote in a piece for the Daily Beast. But after Musk’s dismissive response, Biba found herself drowning in hate mail and abuse. By letting his mob pick over opinions he does not like, Musk is able to control the narrative, playing up investigative reporting on Tesla’s poor labor practices as a misinformation campaign—or even, in some recent deleted tweets, insinuating that one of the people involved with the Thai cave rescue efforts is a pedophile. It’s bad to be thin-skinned, and terrible to play the underdog, but playing it while you ignite a million-man bullying campaign is reprehensible.

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An internet troll's favorite way to argue? Ad hominem, of course! This is your guide to spotting bad arguments on the internet and how to fight them.

from All Of Beer http://allofbeer.com/the-10-most-difficult-to-defend-online-fandoms/

[edelmansgirl11-blog]

Alexandra Kaine‎ to Jaime Edelman The first day in Tennessee had included applying for their marriage license, which was now validated and ready to be signed by an officiant three days later. The morning had been a distracting one at the very least, but eventually the two made it to getting dressed and out the door. On the car ride over, she could be caught eyeing her fiancé several times over, knowing after this afternoon, he wouldn't be her fiancé any longer. When the car came to a stop, she was all too eager to get out of the car, stealing several kisses from the man on the way to the building before them, each kiss claiming to be the last as his fiancé, yet there was endlessly another behind it.

Jaime Edelman Knowing what happened next would be hit or miss, he pressed his lips to hers. Only hoping this sort of thing would not horribly back fire on him. "Ready?" He'd ask playfully, knowing she's not be ready to come face to face with the woman before the courthouse.

Alexandra Kaine "Never been more ready," she offered honestly as there wasn't a doubt or reservation within her as she drew in close to his side. "You ready to be stuck with me in holy matrimony?" She asked, teasing as she glanced up towards him while approaching the building.

Jaime Edelman "Better believe it but...there's probably something I need to warn you about..." he began, footsteps slowing. "I think I'm bisexual..." letting it fester, he'd shake his head. "Just kidding." He stated, gesturing towards their guest there before the courthouse expecting their arrival.

Alexandra Kaine As he said there was something she should be warned about, she eyed him, not knowing what to expect. "Ohhh. I know better than that," she teased in return as he gestured forward where her eyes would follow. "Is that my..." she began. Knowing all too well that her mother was in the States, she couldn't imagine how this was happening. The woman looked as though she were straight from the pages of a magazine as she walked down the steps to properly greet her daughter with a light embrace and a kiss to the cheek. "I don't understand," she confessed easily as her mother stated that Jaime had invited her. Alex looked over to Jaime instantly, surprise there in her eyes as her hand found his. "Got to be out of the hotel by noon today, huh?" She asked as it all came together.

Jaime Edelman "It is." he confirmed as he watched the two, releasing his fiance for the moment before the confession was made and her eyes met his. "Yeah..." he stated with ease, teeth finding his bottom lip as the silence lingered for but a moment. "I figured i got alot of people to prove wrong by doin' all this...might as well start from the top, respectively." he offered her mother, as even though the two were not exactly seeing eye to eye, he still would not disrespect her. "So she's gonna' be one of our witnesses today."

Alexandra Kaine Alex honestly didn't know what to say or do. It was just days ago that she'd sat at a table in a restaurant defending this situation to her mother. She drew a breath as her mother offered a similar greeting to Jaime, ever proper no matter her feelings on things, truly only wanting to see her only daughter happy, knowing this man did it for her. "Thank you," Alex whispered to Jaime a moment later, knowing he was facing things here that even she didn't feel he should have to, but ever grateful just the same.

Jaime Edelman "Don't gotta thank me. I want both y'all to be good and I know I got some makin' up for." he stated, glancing over where her mother seemed to wince with every uprising of his accent which would make it difficult not to be amused by it. Lips tightening as he looked back towards her. Knowing now he was going to lay it on thicker. "Ready when y'all are."

Alexandra Kaine Hearing Jaime attempt to own up to his parts here, it turned her stomach. He had done all of that already with her and it was in the past. She wouldn't hold him to that shit or she wouldn't be able to be where they were right now, firmly believing that people do change each and every day and to stand still was to die. She didn't feel he had to be held to a cross for it and he certainly didn't owe her mother anything. As he said he was ready when they were, Alex leaned into his side, eyes shifting from her mother up to his. "I've been ready," she promised easily as it was true. Her mother nodded her own agreement and took those first steps up towards the courthouse when Alex suddenly stopped. "Mother, if you could excuse us for a moment?" she asked, finding her mother's pause before she nodded and assured that she'd be waiting inside. Stopped on the steps, Alex waited until her mother was out of earshot before she was looking up to Jaime's eyes once again.

Jaime Edelman Already knowing that he was in for it as she pushed off her mother for the moment, his eyes finding hers as she looked at him. Head tilting as he awaited his ass chewing. "What?" he'd ask curiously.

Alexandra Kaine There was to be no ass chewing as she looked up at him. Lifting her hand to find the side of his face where she'd remain silent for a long moment, searching his eyes as the windows to his soul, needing to know for sure. "Is this what you want? Really and truly? Me, you, and my mother? No one else. Without your family and friends and without the full production?" Her own feelings on the matter had long ago been put out there, leaving no room for doubt, but in this final moment before their appointment within, she needed to know that the man held no reservations and that he in no way felt cheated by the way they were doing this.

Jaime Edelman "My family wouldn't recognize it anyway." he'd remind her, as if he wasn't getting married in a church to a member of the church then it wasn't to be accepted. He had wiggle room with his mother but he knew where the rest of them all stood on it. "Your mom is the closest thing to family either of us are gonna' be able to have today and...we kill two birds with one stone." he added, not liking people who doubted him as it was at that point that he had something to prove.

Alexandra Kaine As he spoke, she knew it all to be true, but even still, she wanted to be sure that he was wanting it exactly like this. The last had been so different and although she felt that something quiet like this suited them much better, as they weren't at all about the show in their private lives, she had to be sure he was okay with it all at the same time. Turning her head slightly, she'd catch sight of something she'd seen on the way in, now standing out to her even louder. With him in his suit and her in a sundress, her mother dressed to the nines somewhere in the courthouse, she drew her eyes back to him. "Wait here. I'll be back, I promise," she assured, leaning in to press her lips fully to his in a firm exchange before she was drawing back. Leaving him in the moments before something like this did not prove well for them in the past, but her trust in him would be shown here in her ability to ask him to stay, to wait for her, and trust that he would.

Jaime Edelman Hearing her her mention that she'd be back, pressing his lips back to hers as curiosity found him. Now knowing what it might have been like to be left at the alter as she went off to do what she needed to do. Hands finding his pockets as it was there he'd be left and there she'd find him.

Alexandra Kaine She wasn't leaving him. It was anything but that. But there was something she needed to do first that she wouldn't have known until they were standing there on those steps. Their kiss held her promises to him that she loved him and she'd be back. As she disappeared within the walls of the courthouse, she was gone for what may have been twenty minutes or so before she'd come out alone. A moment later, her mother walked past the two of them, making her way back to the vehicle she'd arrived in where her driver was already waiting. "Walk with me," she offered, her hand slipping into his as she returned to him, glad to find him there where she'd left him, though it was clear something had happened inside that courthouse.

Jaime Edelman Taking a seat in the meantime and bored as all get out, he'd watch the woman leave and was immediately confused. Even more so as she'd exit and state her piece. Standing up slowly as his brows admitted his confusion while all knowing her explanation would soon follow as his hand would find hers.

Alexandra Kaine As he stood up there beside her, her hand within his, she leaned against the arm of his jacket as she took those first steps away from the courthouse. Her mother's driver pulled away and they were left to themselves once more, a space where they always seemed to do well. Within a minute of walking down the path, she'd make a turn to head down the busy street with him, where they might be easily recognized, but she couldn't be bothered with it, acting as though neither of them held any celebrity about them and were just a couple walking down a street. "I asked my mother to take care of something for me," she confessed, though it was only one working part of just what she had accomplished inside of the courthouse. "It'll take about an hour or so, so we've got a bit of time to kill."

Jaime Edelman Definitely confused as he was led away from the courthouse as she held to him. Hearing her confession which had him glancing down towards her as the time frame was odd at best. "So I'm not gonna' get any hints?" he'd ask, seeming like she was keeping this one to herself.

Alexandra Kaine Her eyes met his as the two walked, giving up a simple shake of her head as this one was her own secret and he'd just have to wait. "Nope," she offered conclusively, her hand tensing in his. "But you just scored an extra hour with a fiancé and another hour to look forward to the rest of your life with your wife," she added, meaning all of those final fiancé kisses had been far from the truth. "Are you hungry?" she asked, thinking it might be a good way to pass the time as her mother worked at her mission.

Jaime Edelman "That even a question?" he'd ask, as the man was always hungry but would get hotter and hotter in the get-up meaning some AC would be appreciated as he reached up to undo the top few buttons of his dress shirt. "You lug me out in the heat, the least you can do is feed me..."

Alexandra Kaine The woman would have no choice but to laugh at his response, already knowing it to be true. "Alright," she agreed through her laughter, leaning into him for a moment before spying a burger joint halfway down the block. "Jaime Edelman in a burger joint... the locals won't know what to think of that," she offered teasingly as the man's name had become synonymous with such a food item.

Jaime Edelman Already knowing what he wanted as she didn't seem to bother asking much now days either. A shake of his head. "No, but one place up in Boston got a burger named after me. It's two pieces of chicken, the falcons, surrounding me, the burger with lettuce, tomato and somekind of Jack Daniels sauce ontop." he informed her honestly, as that was making it in his mind.

Alexandra Kaine As he spoke, she could nearly sense his tongue salivating at the mention of it, knowing the man's love for the food item. Continuing to walk with him, she would pause outside of the burger joint as she turned to look up at him. "Do you know just how much I love you?" she asked, her eyes to his as her hand found the familiar position at the side of his face. Not at all wanting him to think she was putting off or stalling with what they were attempting to do that day by her moving it an hour or so later. The question may have seemed out of place, but it was absolutely on time as it was in these little moments that she'd feel it the strongest, when he was just simply talking about something that most anyone else might not have cared about, yet it was there that she'd find the greatest focus with him as she let him show her the world through his eyes through the words that he'd speak on. It was there in those moments that she'd realize she had the greatest seat in the house, next to the man that was nothing like people would assume, and only she got these glimpses that people would pay large sums of money to have.

Jaime Edelman "Uh, I suppose not." having no clue where that came from when he was just talking about burgers, he met her eyes as she turned to face him. Smirking softly as he had no damn clue what she was going for here but he knew he'd soon find out what he had done to earn her love, affection and the mention of it.

Alexandra Kaine She didn't need for him to understand, but she did need to know if he knew just how much it radiated through the woman, consuming her entirely. Leaning in, she pressed her lips to his easily as she'd offer him no further explanation before she was drawing back to head inside of the burger place.

Jaime Edelman "I love you more, by the way." dropping that one in her ear just before the hostess would ask them if it was just the two of them, he'd nod. She had been interrupted and thus, he'd win. Flashing her a gentle smile as the two were seated somewhere in the back as the woman seemed to understand their position within the world without making it obvious.

Alexandra Kaine She'd grumble her response as he won this round, but he hadn't won entirely. As they walked to their table, phones were lifted randomly and it was easy to assume they'd been found out, at least for where they'd taken that flight to. Alex had to laugh as she and Lucy had just been checking online the night before for this exact thing, though now she knew the cat was out of the bag. Although they wouldn't know what the two were there for, they'd at least know where they'd gone. "Trending by six pm," she teased as they took their seat towards the back, shaking her head.

Jaime Edelman "No doubt." he stated simply as they found their table, pulling the chair out for her before finding his own on the opposite side of the table. Thanking the woman who seated them before looking over the menu.

Alexandra Kaine As he pulled out her chair, she'd take her seat with a thankful exchange there at her eyes. With him seated there across from her, she'd watch as he looked over the menu, not bothering to do the same with her own as she already knew she'd be able to ask for exactly what she wanted as there wasn't anything special about it.

Jaime Edelman Paging through as he felt her eyes on him, still curious of the menus contents as he usually did try something different in every place. Or at least attempted to. Teeth to his bottom lip in thought before glancing over towards her. Knowing this was never difficult for her.

Alexandra Kaine As his teeth found his lower lip while his eyes were there to the menu, she couldn't help but wonder what he was deciding between. Knowing well his attempt to sample a bit of everything as to broaden his burger horizons, she couldn't help but laugh as his eyes met hers. "So what do you have it narrowed down to?" she asked, only able to wonder what might have caught his eye.

Jaime Edelman "I'm not sure yet." he stated honestly, needing sometime to think it over before the waitress approached for drink orders. Getting some variety of a gourmet burger he'd forget the name of by the time it arrived and a beer to wash it down.

Alexandra Kaine Her own order was placed for a simply traditional burger and a bottle of water, knowing all the while that Jaime could have quoted her order without her even being present as it was always the same. Once the waitress slipped off, she'd hear an alert on her phone with a message from her mother. A smirk drew at her lips as she typed back a quick reply before settling the phone on the table beside her. "Thank you for inviting my mom here," she offered, knowing how difficult it all was, but wanting him to know just how much she appreciated the gesture.

Jaime Edelman "Yeah..." he stated simply as he watched her phone go off and clearly he was not to be invited to the contents of which. "I think you should give me an idea of what you got planned for us today though..." he began, crossing his hands infront of him at the table as if on a business meeting and being thorough in negotiations.

Alexandra Kaine Eyeing him as he took a professional stance with her, she'd do the very same as she leaned in slightly. "Well, you see, I looked it all over and something wasn't quite right. So a few adjustments and we'll be on our way," she stated back, as professionally as she could, a smirk finding her a moment later that would give her away.

Jaime Edelman Watching her mocking his position, a brow would perk as he thoughtfully pursed his lips. "You're somethin' else, you know that?" he teased, a follow up smirk. "You see your moms balls shrink into her body when I was speakin' earlier? Find it so funny."

Alexandra Kaine As he shifted the conversation, she'd find that smirk to his lips as she nodded her head. "She doesn't know what to say to you. Like she wants to think this one thing and you make it absolutely impossible to think it. I loved every minute of it," she stated honestly as seeing her mother as anything but the picture of perfection was entirely too entertaining to the woman. "She literally had nothing to say. But you got her. So good in fact that she's..." She paused, realizing she almost went too far. "She's helping me with something and didn't have any lip about it at all."

Jaime Edelman "I meant my accent. She can't stand it." he stated honestly, as the woman literally died inside with every word spoken though he got a bit more information out of that considering what she was offering up. "Which is?" he'd continue, thinking he could chip away at her eventually as his beer arrived.

Alexandra Kaine "Ahh," she returned, realizing a moment too late what it was he had been speaking of where she was focused more on his words that had been offered in the moment they were referencing. "Nice try," she offered, seeing him for what he was trying to do there, but the woman would have tighter lips for the near slip. "Drink your beer," she stated with a smirk as she collected her own bottle of water from the table's top, bringing it to her lips a moment later.

Jaime Edelman "You drink your beer." knowing she didn't have one but still using it all the same as his lips found the glass. Glancing around as he did so towards some TVs in the back which held his attention momentarily before back towards her.

Alexandra Kaine It wasn't long before both plates were brought to the table and another text had come through on her phone that would prompt a smile from the woman before her eyes met his once more. "This is water, Jay. You want my vows to be spoken clearly and not slurred, yeah?" she asked, teasing him as if one beer could do that to her, when it really was more like three.

Jaime Edelman "I forget all three pounds of you can't take a beer." he'd return as she continued at her phone without fessing up. Watching as their meals hit the table and he was already at the fries on the side as he reached for the ketchup.

Alexandra Kaine "I can, to a degree," she argued, though it wouldn't be much and they both knew it. With the plates on the table, the woman wouldn't be shy as she reached for her knife to cut her burger in half before lifting half to her lips to bite into it. Humming to the taste of it as she chewed that bite with no need to say anything more as she took the next. Some women wouldn't eat in front of their significant others in this manner and with such enthusiasm, but she wasn't like most and would not hold back here.

Jaime Edelman He could never tolerate such a woman for a long period of time considering the man's enthusiasm for food and he'd refuse to be judged for it. Opening the bun of his burger where he gave a dense roll over of the fluid. Always being told he applied entirely too much ketchup to everything as he pressed the bun back down knowing this was going to be a messy one that he might have to cut in half to avoid getting anything on his clothes. "You gonna' still marry me if I have ketchup stains?"

Alexandra Kaine As he prepared his own food, she'd take no mind to it as it was commonplace and wouldn't strike her as anything else. As he was accustomed to her ability to put away some food, she was used to his ways as well. Meeting his eyes as he spoke, she finished chewing the bite in her mouth as she shook her head no. "No way. I draw the line there. Best keep those clothes clean somehow, Mister," she teased, though they both would easily know it wasn't true.

Jaime Edelman "But...I'm wearing white." he reminded her as he glanced down, having no clue how he'd manage this as he reached out to cut it in half in attempt to keep it together. Picking up the burger as he'd make his attempt as he was far too hungry to get fussy over it.

Alexandra Kaine As he offered his reminder, she had a laugh at her lips, knowing a stain would do nothing to stop their plans for the evening, but letting him think it might just the same. "Better be careful," she offered, taking another bite of her own burger as she watched him trying to take care with his own.

Jaime Edelman "Just gonna' have to get married naked." he'd tease though clearly not too upset at the idea of it considering where his naked ass found itself now days as he took a large bite. Doing his best but there were still no guarantees.

Alexandra Kaine "That might be a problem," she teased as she glanced towards the front of the establishment, eyes fixated on the window as the day turned to late afternoon, dark storm clouds providing a darkness that was unnatural for the time of day. Glancing back towards him as she took another bite, she washed it down with a drink from her water bottle. "No naked grooms. Not today," she offered, a smirk there to follow. "I will, however, be glad to get you naked not very long after," she promised as that much she'd assure easily.

Jaime Edelman "Oh yeah?" He asked, as if surprised that the woman wouldn't miss any chance. "Tell me more of this..." he began, not having any issues with speaking and chewing all at once unlike his better mannered fiancé.

Alexandra Kaine "Noooo," she argued, not even about to get on with that until after they both had rings against their fingers. "Let's just say, it's going to be naked. Very naked," she assured as if there were any doubt at all. Returning to her burger a moment later, she'd finish what she was going to eat of it as a text came in from her mother, letting her know that things were handled and to let her know when they were heading out. Typing out a text in return, she'd place her phone down with a smirk to her features.

Jaime Edelman "Why you keep telling me no today?!" He asked, outraged as he was once again denied as she went back to her phone. Growling low under his breath.

Alexandra Kaine "Because I'm saving the positive 'yes' or the variant of 'I do' for later!" she teased in return as she leaned back in her seat. "Would you rather get a yes now or later?" she asked, as if that was even a question, her hand slipping down over her stomach, feeling entirely full in the moment.

Jaime Edelman "You've told me no twice today." Not accustom to it with her let alone twice in about 10 minutes as he took another bite of his burger. One half being decimated in about three bites as a whole.

Alexandra Kaine "I'm going to spend the rest of the night saying yes. Oh yes. Yes baby. Yes please. And I'm sure several other variations of the word. And there's a glimpse into later too, which partially takes back the no from earlier, so you're at one and a half no's and a night full of yeses to come." Nodding her head as she drew a deep breath, knowing she'd eaten too much too fast, but not at all sorry for it.

Jaime Edelman Groans at her as he finishes one half of his burger and reaches for his beer. "Poor Edelman." He stated, sympathy for himself and his station in this life.

Alexandra Kaine "Jaaaaime," she whines, shaking her head as she reaches forward for her water, taking a sip from within as the check arrived at the table and the waitress asked if they needed anything else. "I'm good," she assured, not sure she could manage another bite of anything.

Jaime Edelman "Whaaaat?" He asked before the waitress arrived, her attempt to whine like a tactic out of his own damn book yet done better as he worked at his fries. Finishing his beer up with a proud burp.

Alexandra Kaine "Poor Edelman..." she reminded him, her whine not far off as she could literally taste it on her own lips as she watched him finish. Drawing the napkin from her lap, she'd place it to the side of her plate a moment later. "Is poor Edelman ready to promise his life to his negative fiancé who can't seem to say anything but no today?" she teased.

-July 20 ,2017

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