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#going into trans ppl’s inboxes to call them slurs
sometimes i’ll feel bad when someone is a dick online, but then i’ll remember that i actually have family and friends that i see often that love me
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gaysheep · 3 years
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talking about personal experience with r*dfems. im literally just talking/venting, this is not meant to be an informational or well articulated post. do not reblog
trans women will always be the most critically threatened demographic by r*dfems. trans exclusionary r*dical feminism is fundamentally based around upholding and protecting a regressive definition of womanhood by exterminating trans women who they view as the biggest threat to it. protecting trans women will always be reason enough to oppose them.
however ive periodically seen ppl claim that tme trans people actively benefit from t*rf/r*dfem movements because they want to "protect females" which i do not think is....true on any demonstrable level
there are trans ppl who are class traitors nd associate with them because they think it will gain them mainstream acceptance and theyll offer those people performative support
but i just recently had them in my inbox for an entire week telling me that my identity is a kink, that im fetishizing and sexually harassing gay men by existing (im not gay or a man....), sending me suicide bait, calling me slurs, and berating me about my intelligence
i dont doubt that this would have been worse if i was tma, but many of them eventually just realize they dont give a shit about "women" either and go on to become "ex-t*rf gender criticals," full on white supremacists, or transphobic accelerationists and r*dfems will continue to interact with them because their movement was never actually about feminism
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astro-b-o-y-d · 4 years
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Man I really wish you would shut your privileged ass up abt how "queer isnt a slur" when I gotta sit around my family all the time cussin out the filthy q*eers, also trynna say its "terf rhetoric" like its not trans ppl like me who are uncomfortable with that word?? Its so obvious that you dont give 2 shits abt actually marginalized lgbt ppl lmao
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You do realize that 1) I am not cis 2) ‘actually marginalized lgbt people’ what does that mean??? We’re all fucking marginalized in some way shape or form. Granted some do have more privilege than others but like ???
Also you can unfollow me if you’re that uncomfortable with the use of the word. I am queer and I recognize that some folks are not comfortable with the word so guess what? I’m not going to call them queer! They are not part of the queer community because they do not identify as queer!
But also like…you do realize that while you’re well within your rights to be uncomfortable with the label, ‘queer is a slur’ IS in fact TERF rhetoric and is used among TERFs to exclude people like nonbinary folks and ace folks (both of which I am so HMM I WONDER WHY I LIKE THE LABEL SO MUCH) from the LGBT+ community. You don’t have to like the word or be comfortable with the word to recognize that there is a reason some of us choose to reclaim it for ourselves, and the reason is that so many people want to push us out of one community so we said ‘fuck it’ and made our own.
Get out of my inbox and unfollow me if the word or me choosing to identify as the word bothers you this much. I do what I can to tag all my posts about the subject, so at this point you’re choosing not to block tags because you want to start fights with people who have chosen to reclaim the label.
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lovenotesuggestions · 5 years
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Is there a way you could tell me all of the 'names' for exclusionist people? Like terfs, or people who think you need dysphoria to be trans (I don't remember the name ;_;) I want to be as inclusive as possible, and thus wanna read and learn more about exclusionists. You're very knowledgeable about the LGBTQIA+ community from what I've seen, at least a lot more than I am, so I figured you'd know at least some of them. I also wanna make it clear who to put on DNI list for my blog.
Thank you for thinking of me to ask, and for trying to educate yourself! Off the top of my head, the main things I can think of to look out for are:
TERFs sometimes also go by ‘gender realists’ or ‘gender critical’ - they’re more likely to self-identify as terms like those rather than as TERFs because they consider it a slur (it’s not). Also look out for people with things like XX or ‘adult human female’ in their bios or usernames - it’s TERF shorthand for identifying themselves as ‘real’ women. You may also see the term TWERF - trans women exclusionary reactionary feminism. Some people interpret the R to stand for radical, but reactionary is more accurate. 
The folks you’re thinking of who think you need dysphoria to be trans are called truscum or transmedicalists. On twitter especially you often see them with crossed sword emojis or lightning emojis in their usernames/bio, which they use to indicate themselves as fans of K/alvin G/arrah (censored bc he and his fans tend to namesearch him to harass people who call him on his shit) or storm ryan, who are two particularly virulent truscum youtubers. Ofc not everyone with these emojis are people like these, esp with the new pokémon game that just got announced, but I tend to be cautious of it. 
People who exclude ace and aro folks don’t tend to have a specific name - they tend to self-identify as ace exclusionist, though some self-identify as aphobes (which like... blows my mind when they claim to just not think aces/aros are LGBTQ+, but are happy to call themselves openly discriminatory and hateful towards ppl for having an orientation?? anyway that’s a can of worms for another day). They usually only refer to themselves as ace exclusionist, but this also extends to aro folks too. 
Not specifically LGBTQIA+ related, but it’s also worth looking out for SWERFs, which stands for sex worker exclusionary reactionary feminists, whose feminism opposes sex work and opposes legalisation of sex work (particularly full service sex work, which is the preferred way to refer to prostitution) despite evidence that criminalisation of sex work actively harms sex workers, who are disproportionately poor, POC, and LGBTQIA+. 
There don’t seem to be any other exclusionist ideologies with specific names (at least not that I’m aware of), but some other common ones to point out are:
non-binary exclusionists, who don’t believe non-binary genders are real (sometimes referred to as exorsexists, which is a name for the specific type of transphobia experienced by non-binary people) or who gatekeep the way n-b people behave, i.e. who say n-b people can’t identify as gay or lesbian, can’t use he/him or she/her pronouns, can’t use neopronouns, can’t medically transition, can’t present in a masculine or feminine way, can’t have typically masculine or feminine gendered names, etc. 
people who don’t believe pansexuality is a valid orientation (who think it’s just bisexual for people who want to be special, or who believe it’s inherently transphobic due to a misconception that bi = attracted to cis men and women and pan = attracted to cis and trans men and women, when actually bi = attraction to two or more genders, and pan = attraction to all/regardless of gender - whether or not the people in question are trans doesn’t play into it). 
There are even still people who don’t think trans or bi people should be included in the LGBTQ+ community, even though it was a bi woman who organised the first pride parade, and trans women of colour who were instrumental in the Stonewall riots. 
There are also a few particular brands of lesbophobia becoming louder recently, including but not limited to: people who assume all/most lesbians are TERFs or aphobes due to an unfortunate minority of vocal lesbians with these views, people who think lesbians can’t be non-binary, and people who don’t think lesbians can use he/him or they/them pronouns. 
People who don’t believe others should identify as queer or use/reclaim the term. 
If anyone thinks of anything I’ve missed anything off, please let me know! Also, if anyone has any additional good-faith questions, like what particular terms might mean or what I might be referring to at certain points, then feel free to ask them!
Pre-emptive note: This blog firmly believes in the inclusive nature of the LGBTQIA+ community - the history of our movement is based on inclusiveness and unity between the different groups marginalised for not conforming to cisheteronormative standards, and exclusionism has always been a bad thing for us - it’s the thing that made lesbians, bi folks, and trans folks have to fight to be included in the acronym, even though they were the founders of the rights movement. My LGBTQIA+ community is for anyone who isn’t cisgender, heterosexual, heteroromantic, and perisex and who wants to be a part of it. Policing people’s presentation and the way they go about expressing themselves in a world that tries to quash our self-expression is not part of the spirit of the movement that is supposed to celebrate diversity and non-conformity. People being themselves doesn’t make the community ‘look bad’ or justify homophobia or transphobia - the people to blame for discrimination are the discriminators, not the people being discriminated against for rejecting toxic respectability politics. I will not be responding to any discourse on this matter - y’all know where the unfollow button is. Keep it out of the replies and out of my inbox and generally away from me.
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bittererlemons · 4 years
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gray-warden replied to your post “Fun game: go through the notes on my post and check off how many times...”
i follow a femme who makes a lot of posts abt lesbophobia and she gets called a terf all the time for it, for talking abt lesbophobia and butch/femme stuff. but as soon as she replies to those ppl telling them shes literally a trans woman, she gets actual terfs in her inbox calling her slurs. that happens all the time on her blog. also, calling any lesbian you disagree w a terf is super shitty bc it waters down the meaning and what terfs actually do, so that sucks for trans ppl (esp trans women)
Yeah the past couple days have been a wild and sickening experience but I’ve been extremely lucky that I haven’t had any major harassment. People are so willing to react first with anger and ignorance that they refuse to like. sit down and actually listen to lesbians, especially trans lesbians
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