#i feel for chozen

[bacon-sandwich-of-dionysus]

Okayyyy terrible fanfic idea coming this way.

So y'know how I said that my friend mistook LaRusso for Kessler despite them looking nothing alike? Well, it's given me an idea.

In S5, we could argue that folks around Daniel believe he's crying wolf, yeah?

What if Silver, irony in the name, whilst doing a number on Daniel also gave him a parting gift? A way of saying, "You are Cobra Kai, my breed of Cobra Kai, whether you like it or not."

And Daniel has to spend the next week or two convincing everyone he hasn't lost his marbles and that Silver may be up to something much, much worse.

I'm just thinking about poor Chozen getting more and more concerned for Daniel.

"It was movie, Daniel-San! You must have had nightmare!" He points to the DVD cover of American Werewolf In London, "Fiction! Good fiction. But still! Fiction!"

*cue my evil, villainous laugh*

This is the birth of a disaster.

#fanfic #cobra kai au #oh lord #daniel larusso #terry silver #enemies to lovers but theyre not lovers theyre just enemies and one of thems a right dickhead #chozen toguchi #i feel for chozen #werewolf au #cobra kai s5 #writing

[rosie-tyler]

AY AY AY I'M YOUR LITTLE BUTTERFLY

#if you don't know this song don't talk to me #just kidding ofc #but i feel like this song is a universal experience #anyway this is how the episode went right #it was supposed to be lawrusso but chozen fits more sorry johnny #cobra kai #chozen toguchi #daniel larusso #my edit

[eaglefangz]

what was it you said would happen, if i crossed your line? before i crossed it again and again? you will beg for mercy. right. well. time to find out.

#cobra kai #cobrakaiedit #chozen toguchi #terry silver #ck spoilers #s.gif #insane innit luv xx #god i love this fight. sure it's not as physical as some of the other fights not as technically impressive #but there's something about the simplicity of it. #it feels like the Other side of the fight between johnny and kreese at the end of s3 #that was all burning passion that was personal #but these two? this isn't personal. they barely know each other #and yet it's the same. it's an execution. #insane. this show always leaves me on the floor like a car crash victim xx

[danielslaw]

DANIEL LARUSSO AND CALI'S FAVORITE SHIPS. damiko, lawrusso, danzen and amanda.

#daniel larusso #cobra kai #johnny lawrence #chozen toguchi #amanda steiner #ckedit #damanda #danzen #lawrusso #damiko #caliedits #caligifs #(i feel some people think i hate amanda and damanda but that ain't true) #(i just want the show to actually care about them other can force fights ever season) #(but yeah this my favorite. . . .he is very shippable)

[yenforfairytales]

Daniel LaRusso unable to speak about his trauma because whenever he does he's told he's overreacting. The victim blaming. The shaming.

Unnecessary because he blames himself. Since Season 2(and in kk3) he has said that what Terry Silver did to him was his own fault. Friends and family tell him everything in CK is his fault.

And then Stingray says, "You must have done something to deserve it." 🙂

his worst fears are validated by another victim. he is only believed after he is assaulted. he knew what was going to happen and was helpless to stop it.

and yet despite his worst nightmare coming true, he is still kind and forgiving and that is why I love him. stronger than superman ok.

#there's no way the writers didn't know they were making a lifetime thriller about an abusive ex #also interesting that they threw in daniel with amanda and carmen in the end #and that the writers hc Terry's happy ending as having those three in particular bow to him #i just have a lot of feelings #cobra kai #daniel larusso #my female coded hero #terry silver #every shitty ex trope #shout out to chozen for being the best friend/bf who tried #my post

[terrence-silver]

considering how peeved terry was at them intruding his home, just own turf. Con you imagine if beloved was in the picture? Or if beloved accidentally got hurt because of it?

Look, I am not the writers of Cobra Kai, but I will give these characters a molecule of characterization, dignity and decency; Chozen is a man of honor, Mike Barnes is a confirmed family man and while Johnny Lawrence might be the most disrespectful of the bunch and might be ready to mouth off by saying something like 'What? Did the old man pay for to stay over the night or something?', I feel that if say, they broke into Terry's mansion at such a late hour and they're greeted by the sight of a frightened beloved in the foyer, terrified by three men breaking in, as implausible it is that the security of this Billionaire's manor is so very lax (maybe beloved has a pregnant belly they're clutching, or their young child with Terry, or heck, they might be all alone), this would pretty much be a sure sign for them to back away because they would be pretty much attacking three to one and someone who is undoubtedly not part of all of this mess in any sense anyway and cannot defend themselves. I think it would be in character. I can envision Mike's wrath subsiding into an angry sort of embarrassment and a pissed off sense of not quite knowing what to do with his rage, because hey, he is a committed man too, Johnny might have the bright idea to use this person as leverage but then quickly remembers that he has people he cares for too (and covers up the screw up of a move he was about to make with some joke about getting the wrong address and the house being ugly) after he's halted by Chozen's hand who bows his head with an apology right before they drunkenly waddle out. -"We are very sorry for the disturbance and we wish you a good night."- He says. Someone on a quest for restoring and maintaining his own honor wouldn't go about besmirching it again, even when using the enemies tactics to outsmart the enemy.

Of course, Terry is beyond enraged anyway, Just off of beloved being scared.

The sanctity of their home being trespassed into.

People merely glancing at them.

Them being so very close to danger.

This is enough cause and excuse for unholy retaliation.

But, other than that, I don't feel the heroes of the story would ever hurt beloved like that, because through that, they would pretty much cease being heroes.

#i feel this is in-character yes #terry silver #kk3 #cobra kai #cobra kai season 5 #chozen toguch #mike barnes #johnny lawrence #terry silver x reader #terry silver x beloved #cobra kai spoilers

[desolateice]

Fashion time: Kariyushi wear aka an Okinawan style shirt. USA peeps think Hawaiian shirt. Lightweight, cooling, kind of an island uniform. “Kariyushi is a word made up of “kari” and “yushi” in Okinawan (Ryukyu) Dialect and means auspicious or happiness. Kari means lucky and yushi means come near.  Kariyushi wear was named in a wish that wearing it will bring you fortune.” - OkinawanHai

This is what Chozen almost always wears. No matter the age.

These button up shirts are supposed to be super versatile, dressed in them you’re ready for an occasion, hanging out at the beach, work, going dancing or a fancy event in the brutal summer months.

And Chozen’s not the only one who wears them. While Mr. Miyagi also lived in Hawaii for a short period of time (or a wonky confusing period of time because the time frame of the entire series is wacky.) and this could be a Hawaiian shirt I like to think that it’s either Kariyushi wear or at least something reminiscent of home.

 Kariyushi wear is done in a few different styles. Colorful island prints like Mr. Miyagi’s and the first few earlier (not Mr. Miyagi’s go to really) or bingata

“Bingata (Okinawan: 紅型, literally “red style”) is an Okinawan traditional resist dyed cloth, made using stencils and other methods.  It is generally brightly coloured and features various patterns, usually depicting natural subjects such as fish, water, and flowers. Bingata is worn during traditional Ryūkyū arts performances and historical reenactments.” - My Okinawan Story

While this might be a stretch and I don’t know if the costuming department was trying to go for it, there is also an Okinawan fabric called “Bashofu” or banana fiber. It tends to be this light weight tan color like the clothing Mr. Miyagi tends to almost always be wearing. I like to think that it is in fact Bashofu and sometimes this is made into Kariyushi wear which can have long sleeves or quarter sleeves. “Kijoka no Bashofu are a woven cloth produced in Kijoka, Ogimi Village in northern Okinawa. Bashofu is made from the fibers of the Japanese banana plant called Basho, and has been used to make kimonos in Okinawa since ancient times. Kijoka no Bashofu is characterized by its smoothness, lightness and air permeance. The firm and thin cloth, also described as “wings of a dragonfly,” are less likely to stick to the skin even in a humid climate and have been highly valued by people in Okinawa.” - Kogei Japan

#fashion #listen all of this might've been an accident or a coincident from the fashion department for the movies #but I also like to hope that it was on purpose #and also the feelings I have about Chozen growing up to become more Mr. Miyagi like while retaining some of his own style #gives me so many emotions

[variousqueerthings]

it’s not that I want adult-daniel to get beaten up in a way that puts him out of commission (to quote kreese....), it’s that I think if he did johnny and chozen and amanda would go absolutely feral....

#daniel larusso #johnny lawrence #chozen toguchi #amanda larusso #cobra kai #ck #johnny obvs HAS been beaten up but he has a tendency to be an idiot and tells no one #(and even then s3x1 and 2 had some worried/caretaking daniel) #but it's that thing... daniel isn't MEANT to get hurt... sure in the original series but now? #daniel is Protected by Plot and Themes and even though they ofc don't know they're in a story that Feeling is there #daniel can't get hurt -- Really Hurt -- it's not allowed #daniel took his licks in the first ones and on some level it would feel deeply awfully wrong for him to suffer like that again... #(and when I say *wrong* I mean 😈😜🥺👀) #of course he'll be back in commission at some point but you know... a bit of bruising... some battered limbs... a hospital visit..... #if there's one thing I really do kinda want from mike barnes... it's to finish the job he started in tkk3... and win (and terry to see it)

[robbyykeene]

Something something the warring emotions of wanting to love the wish fulfillment of seeing Daniel Larusso beat the shit out of his childhood abuser (even if it was corny and dumb because the karate kid has always been corny and dumb) vs absolutely loathing the way this season shit all over the themes of the original movies and went all in on the idea all conflict should, actually, be resolved through violence.

#i would say as a whole my feeling are overwhelmingly (if not wholly ) negative towards this season #but like. daniels arc specifically. i just have so MANY mixed emotions there #i think if as a whole the season had been drastically different #if chozen and johnny (and barnes i guess) hadnt technically won that house fight #if miguel and robby hadnt duked it out instead of like. having an actual conversation #if daniel vs silver had been the ONLY fight where the good guys were narratively rewarded for senseless acts of violence #then i would have liked it #because sometimes yeah. you should get to beat the shit out of your abuser #but i guess because of the rest of the season it just. it didn’t feel as emotionally cathartic as it should have #and ive seen people complain that it was a cheesy way to end the giant dojo brawl with like. yes it definitely was #but i dont MIND cheesy #s1 was the cheesiest this show has ever been #and the movies are some of the corniest ive seen in my life #thats part of what makes them endearing #what did bother me was like. literally everything else lol #s5 spoilers #cobra kai #ck negativity #sort of #being more negative in the tags honestly

[thebeautifulmushroom]

watching cobra kai is weird because for the entire season I'm questioning how all of the characters aren't dead, but then the second any one of them is actually close to dying I start heaving crying sobbing throwing up

#the season 5 finale had me on the edge of my seat and I did not like it #personally not a fan of feeling emotions #maya says stuff #cobra kai #chozen toguchi

[themaevethcometh]

yknow how every student has their sensei, the one who they’re closest to and who’s style they work best with despite how all students have trained under more than one person by now? i really, really, really want chozen to become tory’s

#maeve posts #cobra kai #their conversation about honor in s5 was good and lowkey the only positive adult interaction she had all season lol #and i feel like she'd be able to respect him in a way that the others wouldn't and he would understand her better than them #kreese obviously is her sensei right now but she feels betrayed by him and also. he is not a good adult to have in her life #so i would LOVE for chozen to seek her out next season and train her #because we know that the students won't welcome her due to all the fights she's picked #tory nichols #chozen toguchi

[aq2003]

i'm sure that other ppl have talked about it in more eloquent ways than me but one of my biggest problems with season 5 is that it seems to frame all the adults who don't want/have the Classic Family of Wife and Kids as the "evil" ones. i can accept johnny and carmen together because at least their relationship has been built up over the course of the show. but chozen?? like here's a character who's firmly on the good side, who's middle-aged and not married with any kids, who seems to be motivated by his loyalty and honor and nothing else and Oh actually he was in love with kumiko since childhood guys it's okay. it really feels like someone went over the script thinking "we need to make sure every adult on the good side reads as cishet and every adult on the bad side doesn't"

#ck negativity #<- new tag to block if no one wants to see these kinds of posts. bc i think what i liked and what i didnt can v easily be separated #ck #ck spoilers #its like. lgkhsdjfhdkjfw. sad news guys chozen has succumbed to amatonormativity (pensive emoji) #i love chozen's character in this show sm but the stuff w kumiko feels so oddly shoehorned in #maybe in a world where chozen wasn't so delightful for me to watch this would bother me less lmao i just. ghskjlhkjw #its annoying ITS ANNOYING this show at its best is when it's about the found family relationships! #someone please tell the writers to dial back the unnecessary romantic subplots! i swear the show will be so much better for it

[danielslaw]

no new name for miyagi-do please

#i feel it would be a disservice to the history and the dojo #daniel teaching something else feels wrong too #when we know MD can be more offensive and still be core MD aka CHOZEN

[crimmson-sight]

FIRE + GASOLINE = ARSON

#Cobra kai #terry silver #chozen toguchi #cobra kai season 5 #cobra kai s5 #Mine #Should we make ‘arson’ their ship name? 👀 #this took ages wtf 😭 #i had a much longer version but idk I just wasn’t feeling it #Anyways I love them so much #they’re like blorbos to me

[daniel-with-an-l]

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#I’m literally 30 minutes away from being caught up on Cobra Kai #I had to pause the last episode because it was getting late and I have work and I didn’t know the last one would be so long #but then I ended up staying up till 1 in the morning anyway reading fics #IS CHOZEN OKAY? IS JOHNNY OKAY #Kreese will be fine that bitch is probably faking his death again #and if not GOOD #good bye evil grandpa #so many things I wanna talk about but it’s all probably old news lol #my friends are getting tired of me talking about the karate gang war I can feel it

[mauvecardigans]

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#i am having SO many incoherent thoughts about both tkk/ck canon and noise breaking rn #something about how the cobras and chozen were raised with and trained in very similar attitudes if very different styles #something about chozen opting to exercise a different side of miyagi do than what he was trained in #something about daniel only ever striving to follow that one tenet of miyagi do #with very little regard to the fact that sometimes defense does require offense #whether he has an example of mercy or not #something about johnny bridging the two philosophies whether he means to (or wants to) or not #something about change vs growth vs adaptation #something about having your personality and instincts twisted into the worst possible versions #something about being a hero doesn't always mean feeling heroic