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Yuetara, zukka, and maiko

yuetara

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1) its not one of my main ships. i dont rlly read fanfic for them but if i see a cute fanart of them ill enjoy it and i think i first started shipping it because of good fanarts for them.

2) i like yuetara because of how similar they are. theyre both women from the water tribe. they both understand the misogyny that they have faced. and they both said f sexism im gonna be a strong woman. i also love the tui and la parallel. moon spirit and ocean spirit parallel COME ON. YUE IS THE MOON. KATARA IS THE MOST POWERFUL WATERBENDER. THEY ARE THE OCEAN AND THE MOON. the push and pull they could give eachother. that dynamic ftw.

3) i guess if i didnt like something about this ship would be the fact that if i read a fic or see a fanart w yuetara then than means in that particular au i wont get any yuekka and yuekka is probably my second favorite ship. but then again if i get yuetara than i could get a plethora of other sokka ships to go with it so my sadness disappears in like two seconds. gosh shipping is hard sometimes until you remember ‘hey i have like fifty different universes in my head. all ur ships can coexist in ur brain olivia’ other than that i really see no downsides to this ship. maybe i wish it had more content. maybe if it had more content id ship it a lot more but its not one of the more popular ships so the content is kinda few n far between on my feed.

zukka:

SHIPPP

1) my boys. my babies. my loves. i watched this show for the first time when it came out on netflix and when it ended i really didnt ship anything other than kataang. i came onto tumblr to find fun atla content and one of the very first things i saw under the atla tag was zukka content. i was like oh? whats this? zukka? interesting... i was intrigued so i found a list of fic recs and i fell in love with the ship. the rest is history. its probably my number one ship because it was my very first ship here and im nostalgic

2) oh boy there is so much i like about this ship. i relate to a shit ton of characters in atla. but sokka and zuko may be the ones i relate to most. i relate to sokka because i tend to feel second best a lot to my friends. i try to stay positive but things rarely go the way i plan or hope for them too and while im happy for my friends and their achievements i oftentimes find myself thinking why cant that be me? and i see this a lot in sokka especially in sokkas master. i dont feel special a lot and idk seeing sokka feel the same way and then realizing he is special kinda helped me realize that im special too. on the flipside i relate to zuko because i have wild anger issues and difficulty dealing w my emotions a lot as well. i get broody and short tempered and insecure very often and i tend to push people away and i refuse to ask for help (the amount of teachers and adults and therapists who have told me its okay to ask for help ur not any weaker because of it is astounding. do i listen to them? .....im working on it.) and i saw a shit ton of this in zuko. book one and two zuko rarely asks for help as seen in the blue spirit and zuko alone and he pushes away uncle so many times and even when the gaang iffers to help him in i think its the chase he tells them to leave. when he finally has his redemption and joins the gaang and lets them kinda become a better person i was so happy. i want that for myself yk. seeing him finally win the agni kai and overcome his family that always told him he was nothing was such a win. my sister and i get along but when we were children we were very much like zuko and azula. it was extremely competitive all the time and there was so much toxicity and sibling drama to a concerning extent. we get along great now which im very happy about but yeah their sibling relationship hit a lil too on the nose for me. seeing as i relate to these character so much and want them ti be happy i want to live vicariously through them so seeing them together is amazing for me to project into them. i love projecting onto fictional characters and with them i can project onto BOTH so its a winwin. plus so many zukka fics are so well written and heartwarming and heartbreaking and emotional and fluffy anf UGH the talent here us astounding.

3) what do i not like about the ship? again the list is long. oops. mainly the toxic shippers. there are so many toxic zukka stans that sometimes make it hard for me to enjoy this ship but hey! thats what the block button is for:) i despise how often people infantilize zuko and completely ruin his character for the sake of making him a soft weak lil boy who needs protecting. thats just not zuko for me. and ive seen many many accounts even state that this kind of portrayal of zuko is rooted in racist stereotypes about asian men (now i am white so i personally have never experiences racism but i feel the need to bring that up because it is wrong and attention needs to be brought to it because a lot of poc fans have criticised this) and the same for sokka. some ppl rlly skew his character and make him a big strong brute and hypermasculine and once again poc fans have said that this take is rooted in racist stereotypes. again! these are just my opinions! this is my favorite ship! but i think its important to acknowledge some of the bad parts of our ships as well and be critical where criticism is needed :))

maiko

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1) I LOVE MAIKO. “i dont hate you” “i dont hate you too” BRUH. my little heart just burst into flames. im sorry guys but maiko is so cute. they hate everything except eachother. BRUH that is one of the cutest tropes. i shipped them the moment i saw them together onscreen and i was so happy when zukos face lit up in the finale when mai came back.

2) “i hate everything but i have a soft spot for you” TAKE MY MONEY I AM A SUCKER FOR THIS. they are so cute together. like zuko is rarely happy in a majority of atla but mai makes him happy and i- 🥺🥺 HE DESERVES IT. and mai is always so supportive of him. when hes stressing out about the war meeting she tries her best to comfort him. and zuko cares about her too. he may not be the best at showing it but oh my god hes TRYING HIS BEST. i think its a very accurate portrayal of teenage relationships because they arent perfect and they do fight but like,, every teenage relationship does that. and even after everything and how he left her in the fire nation she still had his back at boiling rock. she still risked her life against azula to save his butt.

3) the thing i hate about maiko isnt even about maiko. its about antis who think mai is toxic and that zuko deserves better. that has got to be the worst take ive ever heard. they had a fight in ember island. that is NORMAL. they are teenagers. they are not perfect. but underneath all the rough edges and things they need to work out they still care about eachother so freaking much. i genuinelt believe that neither of them would do anything to intentionally hurt the other and i think thats what matters the most. if anything mai is the best girlfriend in the entire world because zuko fucked up like,, quite a few times. he got rlly jealous and dumped her thru a letter and ppl always say that mai was toxic for being mad at him for those two things. umm she had every right to be mad at him for both of those. and while zuko is allowed to feel his emotions and be angry sometimes as well sometimes he needs to think things thru and realize that hey maybe some if this jealousy is unfounded. BUT EVEN THEN. HE RESPECTED HER FEELINGS AND DIDNT TOUCH HER WHEN SHE SAID DONT TOUCH ME. HE RESPECTED HER. so i hate toxic maiko takes because they are literally so wrong in my opinion.

again all of these are just my opinions!! feel free to agree or disagree but please be respectful!! i will respect whatever u think as well because this is all just for fun :)

#atla #avatar the last airbender #zukka #yuetara #maiko #ship game #ask game #long post #wow i wrote a lot #also if anyone wants to talk ships feel free to message me!

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clericbyers · 5 years

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I’m sorry but the duffer brothers rlly just said caleb u should eat cereal and agree with mike !!! Like I’m sorry no? the other characters actually get to have their Own baggage but him like yeah Max’s brother and likely stepdad is racist but they didn’t even really let Lucas have a reaction or be like affected by it in anyway?. Ugh and DONT get me started on Erica the sassy big mouthed black girl. It was so stereotypical and I hated it. They should write ethnic characters better. It’s unfair

I often feel like I’m the only one who doesn’t like Erica so seeing someone else say that soothes my soul. To be honest this was something I felt in the kpop fandom too: I never know if I’m being too sensitive about race when it comes to certain things. In kpop, there’s a lot of idols who wear dreads and some do blackface and there’s all this other cultural appropriation shit not just with black people but other Asians (Indians and Japanese come to mind rn) too. After 5 years of heavy investment I started to grow numb to it so I had to leave the fandoms for the sake of myself, but point is, I used to be unsure if my anger about seeing black stereotypes displayed in the manner so many idols portrayed was valid. I used to tell myself I was being angry over nothing, that it didn’t matter, it’s just hair after all. But I used to wear dreads, and I had been called names and been seen as “exotic” for it and my anger was indeed valid and I shouldn’t have shut myself down over it.

I mention that because I’m more mature now as I watch Stranger Things and other media in general, and I know that I shouldn’t deny what I feel when I watch/read things (even if it’s still hard to accept my emotions but that’s another story lol). Seeing Erica as the stereotypical rude-mouth angry black girl pissed me off and I let it piss me off. I made a face once it struck that her attitude wasn’t just a one time thing; I was so annoyed I ranted with my folks about it and practically tuned out almost every time she had dialogue in ST3 lol it’s just...it’s so tiring and insulting seeing black girls always being portrayed as angry bitchy girls like?? Yeah, I don’t always identify as a ‘girl’ but I am seen by the world as a black girl and I proudly often present as so, so when I see black girl representation, I am always cheering for it!! Unless it’s stupid ass stereotypes like Erica. Erica as a person is fine, I don’t hate her, I hate that she’s basically POC trope quota. Same with Lucas, who was degraded to product placement.

The writing team obviously doesn’t know how to write black characters and that’s fine! If you’re not black how can you write about black experiences? (And if there is a black person on the ST writing team (but I don’t believe there is) I just wanna say, homie what in the hell are you letting slide by) There’s so many unique black experiences that aren’t just tropes and in the world of the 80s, in a world where black people only got to vote two decades prior and still face discrimination and racism as Billy and his dad have shown us, that’s some sensitive territory to step around. If you aren’t black, do you have permission to dive into a story like that? Do you have permission to tackle the anti-black racism in the Hargrove family head on via Lucas being Max’s boyfriend? Yes, it was lightly touched on in ST2, but it was still a sideline story to the sideline story of Dustin and Lucas liking Max. I think ST should explore the race aspects of the issues in the 80s, not just gender discrimination, homophobia, and political strifes, which are still segregated by race so it’s easy to focus on the white side of the struggles.

What’s the most angering is having black characters like Lucas, who is so smart and intelligent, very crafty and loyal, extremely funny and supportive, and seeing those characters tossed aside in terms of character development and character arcs. You have an amazing character and an amazing actor right there and you do nothing!! Even if they don’t tackle the racism aspects of the reality of being black in the 80s in Reagan territory, there’s still plenty to do with Lucas and his relationships with the Party other than being in shitty!Mike’s corner. I appreciate that they had him try to apologize to Will, because he was in the wrong being dismissive and rude, and I thought it was great that he had the idea that saved the day with the fireworks (fireball!!) because his smarts should be highlighted more. But that’s little to celebrate when at the end of the day, he’s still literally sidelined in scenes holding a box of Cocoa Puffs and spending two minutes straight promoting Coke.

tl;dr ST writers needs black people on their team and the show itself needs to be a bit more diverse (but wbk the latter). I understand that ST is not just media set in the 80s but is also 80s media in the 2010s, but diversity itself is a thing that never went away even if media tried to hide it. Let the black characters shine without being harmful stereotypes.

#also?? when you mean black say black not ethnic #im not mad that's just smth that grates at black ppls nerves a lot #ethnic is a bit degrading #anon #yams answers

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