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crossdressingdeath · 6 months

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In the post about the Nocturne-Gortash parallels, you state "clearly neither of them are happy that this person who means so much to them doesn't remember them." Can you explain more about Gortash showing he's unhappy with Durge's memory loss? I'm only vaguely Durgetash brained, but it always sort of bothered me that he's so willing to discard us even though we used to be close (like with the Baldur's Mouth article or if we give him the Netherstones when he asks). I got the impression he wasn't that sad, but I haven't played a lot of the dialogue options and missed some events. Would love to hear more about this!

I will admit, you don't necessarily have to read it as him being Not Pleased that his friend doesn't remember him, I am extremely Durgetash brained and tend to read everything through that lens. A lot of it is his tone; when he says things like "Then [Orin] didn't lie - the past is lost to you" it just feels sad. Again, my Durgetash brainrot might be causing me to read into it, but it's still a thing. A lot of it is also just... he's so damn delighted to see Durge again and so desperate to team up with them again that it would feel absolutely bizarre if he wasn't upset that they didn't remember him.

I think part of the problem is that there are a lot of places in act 3 where it feels like Durge should get unique dialogue and they don't. I mean, I'd like the opportunity to confirm that they and Gortash were lovers, but even setting aside my Durgetash brainrot there's things like how if you read Gortash's mind at the coronation regarding the alliance Durge gets the same "This one shows promise" line that everyone else does even though Gortash has known and worked with them for at least a decade (assuming he got the Steel Watch plans in the same heist where Durge recovered their family's torture racks, anyway). Some of his speed at abandoning them if they fuck up can be read as him deciding that Durge isn't the same person they were before and so he doesn't want to work with them (for example if you refuse the alliance or obediently hand over the Netherstones, both of which I think we can say with relative certainty are things the old Durge would never have done), but even then I feel like that deserves more of a response than just "Have you gone soft?" This problem isn't exclusive to Gortash-related scenes, both Nine-Fingers and Viconia have documents in their respective hideouts explicitly confirming that their organizations know Durge well enough to recognize them as a high-ranking Bhaalist on sight and neither of them say shit when Durge strolls in to chat with them, but Gortash's relationship with Durge was so close and apparently genuinely affectionate that it's really obvious when he switches to generic lines with them.

#bg3 #durgetash #durge #asks #anon

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rottenbrainstuff · 1 month

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BG3 - Fuck Gortash

Mild spoilers:

I took a little break from playing after binging a whole bunch, which I think is good - it’s not as good to do everything in a rush. Need time to savour it. I’m almost done now and I have to make these last moments count. I have very little left to do now - just Gortash, then House of Hope, and then the final battle, and that’s it! That’s all. I’ve been doing this run for six months now and I am almost all done.

Unpopular opinion: I think it’s good Larian is not making sequels or DLCs for bg3. They did start work on something, realized they weren’t passionate about it, and called it off. They’re going to move onto something else. How fucking amazing is that. These days the idea of sequels in general fills me with nothing but dread. IPs are just a crash grab waiting to be milked by a room of higher ups requesting the most bland and generic stories that will appeal to the broadest audience possible and cost the least to produce in order to maximize profits. I know that’s the movie situation anyways - I don’t know as much about how games work. I still think it’s fabulous that Larian realized they weren’t able to bring the amount of passion that they felt they should, and they called off the work.

I don’t really want to see more content with the characters that we have. I think their stories are interesting and self-contained and complete. I think it makes sense to end it where it ends. And I mean… it IS a fun game but I’m not so invested in the setting that I’m clamoring for more games set in this specific world. So even on that front, I feel like I don’t need more.

Plus maybe it’s my age, but I’m not used to the concept of game updates in general. I don’t expect them. When I was little, you bought a complete game and it was finished and that was what you got, period. The game is the game. It’s complete and it’s good. It’s always there for you to play again, whenever you want it. You can play the different origin plots, you can make different characters, you can make different choices and see what happens, and it’s always there for you. The fact that there won’t be any large additional DLCs doesn’t take this away from you?

So I don’t know. I feel like this is where fanworks step in now. All those little details you want to see, all those little blanks filled in, all those little extra adventures: that’s what fanworks are for. Let’s let Larian work on their next big project now.

Ok anyways, enough of that. Gortash. First you have to get back into the fortress, and all the guards attack on sight. Myeh. After all these very difficult battles, I guess it was nice to have something less hard, but it’s also no fun to feel like you’re shooting fish in a barrel. I did Iron Throne -> Foundry -> then Gortash, I wonder how things change up if you do things in a different order. After killing all the aggrod Fist in the fortress, it was neat to be able to and read all the books I couldn’t access before. Looks like things have gone significantly downhill in Baldur’s Gate recently.

As for the actual Gortash fight: Gortash gets pretty annoying pretty quickly so I cast Otto’s dance on him to keep him boogying. I love casting control spells on this dipshit that’s all about “Blah blah blah, Bane, Control, Bane, Control” well eat this, asshole. I’m a bit obsessive about collecting all the books and notes in the game to read all the lore, so I was pretty unhappy about everything getting destroyed by the constant barrage of grenades. I reloaded and focused on taking out the three grenade launchers at the beginning of the fight and we had smooth sailing. I’m glad I went through the trouble - Gortash has a journal (well, a rough draft of a stupid vain memoir) that details a bit more the plan that I (durge) was a part of, and where exactly in the timeline I was removed from that plan.

Then poor Karlach. So I do really like Neil Newbon, he did fabulous work, his big scene with Cazador was very cathartic and emotional. I think for those of us who have been badly hurt by other people, it’s not an uncommon fantasy to imagine yourself getting the same kind of brutal revenge. His scene made my oldest daughter tear up when she got to it. Me, I’m not sure, maybe I had seen too many clips online beforehand, maybe it was that it was all over so fast, I mean I definitely liked the scene a lot, and kudos to Neil and all the complicated emotions there, but the eyes stayed dry.

Karlach however - that one did make me cry. It really hit hard for me when she was talking about how unsatisfying it was. Now he’s dead but what good did that do, he’s not any more sorry about what he did. She’ll never get that closure. They took her heart and she won’t ever get it back. It’s been almost nine years now, I think? since I left my abusive husband, and that’s still something that eats me up. You can’t ever get that time back. You won’t get an apology for what happened to you, not from them, not from anyone, not from the universe in general. They probably won’t ever even ever recognize that what they did was wrong. And that’s…I don’t know. For me personally, that’s been so difficult to deal with, and to hear Karlach react the same, that hit hard. I had to pause for a moment.

Then she starts talking about her looming death. This whole time she’s been so positive, focusing on what she can do here and now, it’s admirable! But now it all catches up to her at once and she’s so, so angry. I cried. First time the game made me cry.

Fun fact - I actually legit was going to do Duke Wyll. I don’t care if the game is trying to tell me that’s the bad choice, I do honestly believe that’s a good future for Wyll, and it’s great for the city. But Karlach made me so sad here, her grief and anger at having so little time, and I reloaded back and changed my decision.

Now Karlach’s back to focusing on enjoying the moment, and asking if I will be there when she dies. Man.

Back in Baldur’s Gate, with the three netherstones in my possession, the elder brain is lashing out, and immediately, three citizens are turned into mindflayers. These mindflayers had (rather pretty) silvery white blood! Is this a new patch? Do all mindflayers have that now? I’ve killed a few now and I definitely did not see silver white blood before.

Last errand before I head down to the sewer for the final big fight: stealing my contract back from Raphael. At the start of act 3 my tav felt like his soul was disposable, but I guess all the events have left him with a desire to fight for it. Can’t wait, can’t wait!

#bg3 #bg3 spoilers #baldur's gate 3 #bg3 playthrough #enver gortash #Karlach

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undead-potatoes · 5 months

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24 and 27 for both your tav and durge from their respective ask lists please :)

24. What first impression does your Tav give off to strangers?

Very friendly, if a little over-energetic. He's usually quite polite, even when people are being assholes, and many probably find his cheerful disposition very annoying lmao

27. How does your Tav feel about giving and receiving orders?

It really depends on who is giving those orders and why. No-one gets to boss him around without good reason (he's had enough of that), especially if they're being rude or demanding about it. But most of the time his helpful nature triumphs everything else, and he'll accept orders and make himself useful as long as its within his own boundaries of what's okay or sensible. He is, however, liable to do things his own way so specific instructions might be lost along the way. EDIT: He is, however, much better at giving orders. They're rarely served as orders tho, but rather suggestions and gentle persuasion. People are a lot more likely to do as you wish if you ask them with a please and a thank you.

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24. Does your Dark Urge have a treasured item with them? If yes, what is it and why is it special? If no, how do they feel about item sentimentality in general?

Hmm I don't think Aurora was carrying anything with her when she was on the Nautiloid, having spent weeks in the "care" of Kressa who probably stripped her of anything unnecessary. Aurora is incredibly sentimental though, and that includes item sentimentality. She's the kind of person who would struggle to throw out an old sweater coming apart at the seams because 1) it's wasteful, and 2) her old neighbor who has since passed knitted it for her and it IS rude to throw away gifts and [the excuses and explanations go on for another 3 minutes].

27. How does your Dark Urge feel about giving and receiving orders?

Pre- and post-cult Aurora? Just fine. She was never the one to seek attention or take charge, and is perfectly content to be delegated as someone in charge sees fit. Amnesia Aurora is also too scatterbrained to take the lead anyways, so it's probably nice to have someone else who seems to know what they're doing. Cult Aurora however? Absolutely not. Being Bhaal's special little meow meow makes her way too self-important, seeing almost everyone else beneath her, and no-one but Bhaal has the right to tell what to do. The exception is probably Gortash, but he knows ordering her is out of the question; he'll have to respectfully ask or suggest something, gently coaxing her where he wants her. EDIT: Forgot about the "giving orders" part. Once again, Pre- and post-cult Aurora is more of a follower than a leader, and honestly feels weird about ordering people around. Cult Aurora is great at it though, ordering people around to get shit done with a real "my way or the highway" mindset. (Though much of the time she thinks she has to do things herself to make sure they get done right).

From this Tav ask meme (Durge version)

#Sunny Answers #black-rose4 #Ask Meme #OC: Tav #OC: Aurora Dawnbringer #thank youuuu #sorry for the late replies I got distracted gift shopping lmao

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