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#janus stans are we not thriving
rosepetalgold · 3 years
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JANUS GO BLELELE
he's too adorable i can't -
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impatentpending · 4 years
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Remember when we thought deceit wasn't gonna be in the episode? Hhahhaaaa iaminpain
Janus stans are used to pain.... but now....
WE THRIVE 
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ekbeanie · 4 years
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SPOILERS FOR THE NEW SANDER SIDES EPISODE GO WATCH IT NOW~
And we were worried about the royality shippers.... rociet shippers how are y’all doing? Mociet shippers I know y’all are thriving. Sorry Virgil stans but y’all had last episode. Frog?? Patton?? JANUS OMG! AHHHHHH
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Okay, so I don't usually make posts after Sanders Sides episodes drop, but I have a LOT of things to say.
TLDR~ A new possible Deceit Stan rambles about the new episode, wants to give all sides a hug, gives the middle finger to labels, and is looking forward to what comes in the future.
With that outta the way we can get into details, so buckle up y'all cuz there be spoilers ahead!!!
First some short stuff...
- Thomas is ROCKING that outfit!
- Video game references EVERYWHERE and I am THRIVING!
- Such an important lesson delivered SO WELL!
- Lee and Mary Lee are PRECIOUS!
- Pardon me is that AARON BURR SIR?!?!?!?!!
- AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH-
Now onto the bigger stuff!
- I'm so glad that the idea of Thomas just talking to Lee & Mary Lee was addressed! It was bothering me so much from the start!
- Just how uncomfortably unsure Patton and Roman were the first half of the episode just...hits. They wanted so badly to find some way to justify both their points of view even though they were conflicting without actually fighting...it was REALLY hard to watch and I kinda LIVE for it????
- Logan was so abused in this episode it's not even funny. He was only acknowledged to clarify information and most of the time was ignored or shoved aside...LITERALLY! It took Janus appearing in order for Logan to FINALLY get a proper word in. But by then the damage was already done.
- All of these conflicting moral questions were uncomfortable to sit through, but it NEEDED to be addressed. As a person that tries to be morally good I felt for Patton trying so hard to do the right thing even though he didn't know what the "right thing" was. He wasn't doing what he did out of malicious intent like some of us were probably fearing. He just wanted to do right by Thomas and now that he's grown...he can't do it alone anymore. He doesn't have all the answers. And that's SCARY for him after being such a beacon of good and rightousness for so long.
- With that in mind it's no wonder he ended up breaking down the way he did and for a little bit BEING the one viewed as the antagonist. He NEEDED to be in that position in order to understand that his way of thinking just doesn't cut it anymore for Thomas and that trying to push that mindset is doing more harm than good. He NEEDED to face that reality and the fact he finally started to understand it and was OKAY with taking Janus' help afterwards...it makes me so happy.
- I know people are upset at Roman for how he was at the end with the name reveal and his breakdown...but in some ways it's understandable. He was used to being viewed as the hero and for doing the right thing. For being everything Remus supposedly isn't. Being split as they were and viewing Remus so negatively probably warped his view of good and bad...and it extended to Virgil and Janus because of their ties with his brother. And the way Patton's views were for awhile gave him validation that it was the right call even when it hurt him and made him feel unwanted. Because it STILL felt like it was right because Patton...the beacon of emotional stability for Thomas...SAID it was good and right. With that taken away and Patton actively seeking out Janus' help...a person Roman has learned to hate after being manipulated by him before and being put in a position to believe their morals contradicted DRASTICALLY...and being compared to his BROTHER after all the effort he's made to not be that way...to be Thomas' HERO...no WONDER he lashed out. Everything he thought he was doing right might actually be wrong and the person he thought was untouchable (Patton) actually isn't! Everything he thought was true might actually be a lie and that TERRIFIES him. Breaking that mindset is going to take time...and it not being resolved at the end of the episode alludes to that.
- Janus. Was. So. GOOD THIS EPISODE! I have never been one to choose a favorite side since I live so much about all of them, but snake boi is getting a BUNCH of love from me now! He's being listened to, let his guard down, is being sincere (as much as he physically can), and makes it clear he just wants to help Thomas to the best of his ability. He is SUCH a good boi! And it is acknowledged in FULL this episode.
- What he said to Roman was a lie blue I admit...but after letting his guard down like that and revealing his name and having it mocked so harshly in such a delicate situation...kinda justified. Not good...but justified. Just like Roman's behavior.
- Patton and Janus being such parents and working together to do what's best for Thomas. That is all.
Now for thing I wanna address after the fact.
- I know that we've been craving some news about an Orange side and some hints in the episode MAY allude to it, but I don't wanna make any hardcore predictions on it. I've learned that having an open mind leaves me more pleasantly surprised in the end, so I will leave it at that in regards to what this side represents.
- Bit sad Virgil didn't even cameo, but I can understand why it happened. He dropped a bomb last episode with the reveal that deserves more time to be fleshed out. More time than this episode had time for without breaking the flow and taking away from the real message at hand. Not to mention that all this emotional turmoil is probably putting him in a REALLY bad place. I hope he's okay.
- That being said...he's probably gonna be PISSED next episode to see Janus having a seat at the table. Hopefully we learn more about their history soon so we can learn why.
- Kinda bummed that Remus wasn't cameoed either, but again...I understand why. I don't think the conversation would've been NEARLY as productive and serious as it was if Remus was being...well...Remus. Not saying he isn't CAPABLE of that. We don't know that. But in this circumstance...it might've been for the best he sat it out.
Now onto my main thought on this whole matter.
It's suffice to say that referring to Sides as "Light" or "Dark" doesn't do these characters justice. Even someone as Noble as Roman is capable of being insensitive and spiteful. Even someone as kind as Patton can be launched into destructive behaviors in order to preserve his ideals. Just like someone as manipulative like Janus can have vulnerabilities that can be just as easily shattered as anyone else's. None of the sides are perfect nor can they get so easily sorted into categories like Black and White. They are just sides of Thomas' personality. And if Thomas isn't completely perfect...as any human is...how can they be expected to be perfect fits into whatever role we assign to them like good and evil? They're just themselves...and that's a lesson I think is going to be learned in the future.
Thanks for coming to my Ted talk. I look forward to hearing your thoughts and seeing more content in the future. ^w^
~ Witchy
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astralnexus · 4 years
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we Deceit/Janus stans be thriving rn
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disaster-gae · 4 years
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ok some of my thoughts about the video
deceit got fucking REDEEMED (sort of??) deceit stans RISE UP
MOCEIT SHIPPERS HOW WE FEELING
roceit shippers how we feeling....
LOGAN STANS LET'S PROTECT HIM
patton was trying so hard not to be toxic and i can appreciate that
also the roman vs patton thing was kind of awkward because neither of them wanted to say what they were thinking because it would've hurt the other and that's lowkey adorable but also pretty problematic
VIRGIL HOWS HE FEELING???
(like he just told thomas about his past and now deceit- sorry janus is redeemed??? i can't wait to see how that plays out)
also
ARE WE GONNA CHECK ON ROMAN??
I'M SERIOUSLY NOT SURE IF HE'S GONNA DUCK OUT BUT I'D BE LOWKEY HERE FOR IT
goofy janus is the reason i breathe
HE DOESN'T HAVE SCALEY HANDS
so much roman angst....
anybody wanna theorize what patton meant in the endcard?? ("guess i was wrong about everything" "you and i both know that's not true")
JANUS BEING SO HAPPY WHEN THOMAS FINALLY TOLD HIM HE WAS RIGHT WAS ABSOLUTELY ADORABLE
CAN WE PLEASE CHECK ON ROMAN I'M SCARED
can't believe the orange side was lesli odom jr all along...
"roman thank god you don't have a mustache. otherwise between you and remus i wouldn't know who the evil twin is"... that kinda hurted me tho...
janus trying to be genuinely helpful when patton asked him stuff was just adorable
PLEASE LET ME CHECK ON ROMAN
conclusion: janus has my entire heart, moceit shippers are thriving, roceit shippers are sobbing, anxceit content please, the roman angst was very much adequate tonight, I JUST WANT TO CHECK ON ROMAN PLEASE THOMAS STOP MY PAIN
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