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Wen - Moonlight Chicken - temp stuff. When will I get to be a permanent stuff? You just want to be my employee? What else can I be? Boyfriend. The seller's boyfriend. What did you say? It wasn't very clear. Clear enough now?
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Moonlight Chicken is For the Queers
Ok I started my rewatch of episode 8 and figured out what I want to talk about for this series' finale: intentions and resolutions. This post will be about intention, and how I truly feel that Moonlight Chicken is a gift for queer people. Why? Well, there are many reasons, but for the purposes of this post, I will simply present the following title card.
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Moonlight Chicken, Chapter 8: The Self-made House and Home
(if you are expecting this post to be anything other than a jumbled mess of my personal experiences with no clear through-lines or relevant transitions between sentences, thoughts, etc. then turn back now)
Whatever we want to say boy loves started as, fetish or otherwise, queer people are still able to see themselves or get comfort and representation. But coming from watching literally 25 boy loves in the last four months, this show feels different from most (not all) of them, to me, because of how strongly this show centers around built community, rather than romance, as it's central theme.
And yeah while any standard friend group in BL could be considered community in the abstract, the idea that they are a community is never quite presented. It's Team taking food from Pharm and all three of the gang teasing each other, it's Kuea and Diao spending most of their time talking about their relationships, it's Porsche forgetting Pete exists because he's so caught up in Kinn. More often than not we are building towards and hoping for declarations of love between two characters. And do not get me wrong, that is all well and good, and always what I'm rooting for in those shows. And we get something akin to that in Moonlight Chicken too, which is when you finally have Li Ming and Jim calling Heart and Wen (respectively) their boyfriends.
But the "I love you" we get in Moonlight Chicken? That isn't between the couples, it's between Li Ming and Jim.
Because the thing that makes Moonlight Chicken different from other BLs is the emphasis it puts on queer elders raising queer youth. It's about queer youth learning from queer elders and queer elders learning from queer youth. It's about how home and birth families don't always fit quite right, and how you build families and homes despite. And it's applicable to many people, children in abusive homes, disabled people, etc. too. Which is why P'Aof adds strained parental relationships and deafness in to this piece. But because this is fundamentally a BL show, I'm viewing this more through a queer lens.
So naturally, this also means I am informing my analysis of this show through my feelings as the only (known/out/visible) queer person on either side of my family. When I was little, a decade or more before I realized I was queer, I asked my mother one night if I was adopted. I'm not, and I know that, but why did I ask? Because I never really felt like I fit. Not the way I was supposed to fit, not the way family was supposed to fit together. My house never felt like a home.
And it's why I love this exchange between Wen and Jim at the end of episode 2
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"I want home," "Don't you already have one?" "I don't." "A person like me doesn't fit to be anyone's home,"
And technically we know this isn't true. Wen does have a home, he has a condo, he has a place to sleep. But emotionally is where the problem lies. Wen is living with his ex, the apartment is cold, he has work colleagues and a friend that he and his ex both know and that's it. And as he tells Jim in episode 7, all his friends are straight. And then he meets Jim, and there is a spark, and maybe it's possible for home to grow there.
Literally, physically, I have a home. I have a family. But the more I embrace my queerness, the more I understand and am comfortable with myself, the more isolating and cold that house and family feel. I'm such a different person now than I was, and there are homophobes and transphobes on both sides of my family, and that makes it hard for me to feel like I am loved. Even when logically I know I am. But it's hard, when your mother says she accepts you and has yet to use my pronouns properly despite me being out to her for over a year and having three separate conversations about it. When your uncle spends twenty minutes or more complaining about trans people, when your cousins don't think trans people should exist. That's my family...technically. That's my home...technically. But it hasn't felt like that in years. So I understand what Wen means here, Wen's definition of home is not a place it is a feeling.
And Jim? We know Jim is already everyone's home. He is home for Li Ming, he is the closest thing to a parent that Leng has in his life, he makes sure the community not only has food, but has as much as food as they could possibly eat. He is first and foremost a community caretaker. But he is so wrapped up in his grief about Beam, his self-hatred, his stubbornness, his exhaustion that he is not able to believe that about himself. Home is a place and not a feeling for Jim, because he can't allow it to be.
The key to Wen and Jim's relationship is finding and building that home.
Home, Family, Community. These are incredibly important themes to Moonlight Chicken and those themes are incredibly important aspects of being queer.
I don't know how Thailand is re: homophobia and transphobia, if kids risk the same chance of getting kicked out of their homes for being queer, etc. But that is a very real possibility for many queer people in the States. But I'm thinking of homelessness in queer youth, how 28% of queer youth have reported experiencing homelessness in their lives. I'm thinking of ballroom and ball culture and how participants in the Ballroom scene were parts of Houses with mothers and fathers at the head of them who acted as mentors to their queer children. When I think about queerness and what it means, I think about ballroom. I think about connection, I think about community.
But that community is often forged from necessity borne out of isolation. What do I mean by isolation? I mean the isolation that Li Ming feels in school, around his school friends. I mean the faces Li Ming makes when his friends are talking about girls:
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I mean the physical barriers the show places between Li Ming and his school friends.
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It is the isolation that comes with queerness, with poverty, with everything about Li Ming. Beyond the fact Wen is a little younger than Jim and thus better able to understand and see Li Ming's desires to be seen as an adult. I think it is this state of listlessness in Li Ming is also something Wen recognizes. I think at this point Li Ming is so desperate to get away, to go to America, to be listened to and respected by Jim.
Jim who is too caught up in constant stress to see the home he has built for himself, Li Ming who is too caught up in wanting to be understood to appreciate that he has a home to run from. Wen who is working as a go between for Li Ming and Jim because he wants them to be his home. Heart who has been trapped at home and found his freedom because Li Ming understands the frustration of misunderstanding, and the importance of community.
I'm thinking about how so much of the final episodes are dedicated to showing community, showing family, showing the audience that home lies in the collective.
We see it in how many people rush to help Mrs. Hong:
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We see it in the people who help you carry your grief:
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We see it in how deeply and broadly the pain is felt when community pillars are lost:
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We see it in the end of and era:
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We see it in the olive branches:
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And in new beginnings:
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Very few people in these shots are connected through blood, but they are a family. And when I look at these shots the only thing I can think about is how I felt the night I threw a party for all my trans friends. All I can think about when I see these shots of everyone sitting and eating together is how many times I would look over to my friends and see them beaming. How many times someone came up to me to excitedly say this is the first time they felt like they could fully be themselves. How everyone kept asking to do an event like this again. How everyone kept asking to be added to a group chat at the end of the night so they could keep in contact.
And I remember how it felt for me to realize that I had built a community for myself in a place that I have really been struggling to feel was home. Because I had spent so much time in school and work, barley able to scrape together enough money to cover expenses, exhausted and stressed and unable to see what I had sitting right in front of me.
And I think about other queer people I have met, who light up when they see someone else who is gay, who talk about how lonely they feel because they only have one other queer friend. How immediately the need to invite them out, to introduce them to people, to make sure they have community strikes.
I think about how I worked at a summer camp out of state, and got to try out my pronouns, and figure out who I was, and then a few months later, I had to return home. Where I wasn't out yet, where I was going to get misgendered, and how quickly I came out to all of my close friends about my gender identity to try to mitigate how much my mental health tanked when I had to be someone my parents thought I still was. How at the same camp, the queer kids flocked to all the queer staff, how desperate they were to bond. How much lighter they got to be when they were away from their parents and allowed to be themselves around people who also understood not only them as people with the identities they held, but also their struggles existing in a household that didn't see who they were.
I think about how, in the States at least, "are you family?" is/was used as code for "are you gay?"
It's why it is so important to me that Moonlight Chicken ends with the line: "I just built a home. I don't want to move anywhere."
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Because Wen has finally built his home. Because he has found his family, his queer community, his home. And yeah, we get the romance, yeah we get Li Ming and Heart holding hands, and Jim and Wen making out, but the emphasis of the final episode is moving forward, being brave, allowing yourself to love, and allowing yourself to stop, look around, and realize that you've made a home for yourself that is built of the people you love who love you in return.
Community building is a huge part of life for literally everyone, but it vital to the survival of marginalized communities. And when I think about my own relationship to queerness, one of the most sacred and important aspects of being queer is building the family you need.
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18butyouact80now · 1 year
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Now how do you want me to go from seeing geminifourth three times a week to none.
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hughungrybear · 1 year
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Wen also learning sign language for Heart is peak Father-in-Law behaviour 😭😭😭😭
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tswizzlesfan · 1 year
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WHY IS NO ONE TALKING ABOUT THE PEN
ALAN WHEN JIM TOOK THE PEN: 💀🤬⛓️❌️🔪
ALAN WHEN GAIPA TOOK THE PEN: ☺️💐🥰✨️🏳️‍🌈
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circuscl0wn · 1 year
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NAH THIS IS HILARIOUS
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He knows he ate her up💀
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bl-cupboard · 1 year
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liming: “read my lips, boyfriends?”
heart: *blushhhhhh*
liming: “boyfriends?”
heart: *nods*
and that is how you do young love pure, simple, yet it’s the only thing they need. each other :)
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I think I liked what they did with li ming's mom
She is trying, but still very much a separate entity from the unit of jim and li ming. And li ming is willing to try with her but her opinions don't seem to be his concern whatsoever, he's telling her how it is, informing her of plans, but continuing on
Though props to her because she said I'm going to try, and that will include the boyfriend and learning some signs starting now
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fantascia · 1 year
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Alan hoped so bad for Gaipa to take his pen so that he could have an excuse to see him again lmao 😩
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Your voice is very nice. I want to hear it more often.
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Resolution
Ok, I've been trying to work on this the last couple days but I have been so so sleepy. SO Moonlight Chicken has ended and I am very sad about it, but all good things must come to an end, and we just have to hope that when they do the ending is satisfying. And boy oh boy, if Moonlight Chicken doesn't have itself atruly satisfying ending. I talked about intention in Moonlight Chicken and how I felt that one of, if not the main theme of this show is Community, especially queer community. But now I just want to talk about the resolutions. It is the ending after all. And Moonlight Chicken delivers on presenting us satisfying endings for all our wonderful characters, and my opinions on why they are satisfying.
This is going to be a loooonnnnng post, so be warned. (I put this kind of in the order that I thought would be least complicated relationships to most but who knows? You think I plan these things out? Nope, it's just word vomit babyyyyyyyy)
Gaipa and Jim
Gaipa and Jim's central "conflict" is one sided feelings. Gaipa keeps trying to show his interest in Jim to no avail (Side Note: Poor Gaipa is out here thirsting after Jim, when Jim has owned this chicken shop for literal years and possibly knew Gaipa when he was a child/teen. He was never gonna see you as a romantic interest baby boy.) And part of that stems from, in my opinion, Gaipa refusing to really accept Jim's subtle rejections:
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And partially Mrs. Hong reaffirming that her husband was the same way Jim was with her and she was just persistent. Either way, Gaipa is brave, puts his heart on the line, and straight up asks Jim if Jim could ever see him as a possible lover. And, honestly similarly to Alan which is perhaps why they work, Gaipa has a hard time separating himself from Jim after heartbreak. Still offering him the title deed and trying to affirm that he's not just doing it because he wants Jim to like him. But...because of his crush on Jim, Jim consumes a lot of Gaipa's life. Gaipa makes sure that Jim remembers his appointments, he organizes his bills and reminds Jim when his car insurance expires, he goes to the leasing office with him, etc. And if he is ever going to have a healthy relationship to Jim again, he needs to have some distance.
And at first, he is putting a lot of distance between himself and Jim, practically ignoring him when he comes by the chicken stall. And while that can be necessary for people, maintaining that level of distance is, in my opinion, unhealthy. Jim and Gaipa are not only friends, they are community members, and Jim's chicken shop relies on Gaipa's family business.
And then Gaipa swings wildly in the other direction being physically unable to get the space he needs from Jim due to the death of his mother.
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He has no family left to cling to, so he clings to Jim. Jim holds him through the initial emotional reaction, Jim helps him with the funeral, Jim sits next to him during the service/ceremony and...
If Gaipa wants to have a healthy relationship to Jim after everything, then he not only needs to accept that Jim cares about him as family and will never love him romantically, but he also needs to accept Wen as Jim's love interest and he needs have firmer boundaries in his connection to Jim moving forward.
Resolution: Gaipa sees Jim refuse to exploit his feelings by taking the deed title from him, Gaipa sees Jim taking care of him in his worst moments, repaying the care that Gaipa has shown him throughout the show. Gaipa sees Wen, who is an acquaintance to him at best show up to his mother's funeral day after day, and not only show up but HELP out showing Gaipa that Wen is a good person who cares for the people around him regardless of how close they are. And then he sees the way Jim looks at Wen and Wen looks at Jim and knows that Jim has never looked at him like that.
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Wen helping out and Gaipa seeing the way Wen and Jim look at each other affirms a few things. (1) Wen has become a part of the community and cares for the whole community, Gaipa included (2) Wen will not be leaving any time soon. (3) Jim is happy, Jim is in love and Jim will still be in Gaipa's life because Jim loves him too, just platonically. And that's what finally allows him to reject the invitation to the diner closing night so that Jim can spend his last evening in the shop with his family and allows him to come back at the end of the episode to Jim's new food truck so Jim can spend the last evening of the series with his community.
And we get a secondary resolution not for Gaipa's sake but for Mrs. Hong that it looks like sparks are flying between Gaipa and Alan at the end there. Because Mrs. Hong said before she died the only regret she had was that Gaipa hadn't found love. We can discuss 'pair the spare' trops all we want but giving Alan and Gaipa that connection also allows Mrs. Hong to rest with no regrets remaining.
Jam and Li Ming
I already discussed my general thoughts of the relationship between Jam and Li Ming in episode 7. Something I didn't talk about in that post though, was where Jam and Li Ming were in their last scene together at the end of episode 7.
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There are approximately a million posts about food as love so I won't go in to that so much here because we all understand the significance of Jam cooking for Li Ming. What I do what to talk about is how this moment is the turning point that allows them to have a positive resolution at the end, and how it stems from Li Ming reaching out.
There are a few things that contribute, in my mind, to Li Ming re-hashing the conversation about his Mom getting re-married (1) the death of Mrs. Hong and Li Ming seeing how devastated Gaipa was at the loss of his mother (2) Jim finally seeing Li Ming as an adult and listening to him, thus relieving a lot of the frustration Li Ming had been feeling and also allowing Li Ming to understand that Jim is in his corner and Jim will make sure that Li Ming's decisions are honored. Around this dinner table Li Ming also learns that his mother and Jim ran away from home when they were around Li Ming's age, and his reaction?
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This bright, beaming smile, the realization from Li Ming that Jim and Jam understand his dream to leave home. This is the first step, and if Jim hadn't finally accepted Li Ming's autonomy, if Jam had not listened to her brother, this first step might never have happened. But one meal does not repair years of damage.
If Jam and Li Ming are ever going to get to a loving relationship, if Li Ming wants to love his mother, then Jam needs to show up for Li Ming, listen to Li Ming, and Li Ming needs to be honest and to take the time to understand his mother not as a parent who failed him, but as a imperfect, complicated adult.
Resolution: The relationship repair that begins at the end of episode 7 carries through in to episode 8 (with a little bit of tomfoolery from Jim). Jam and Li Ming go shopping, talk more, and Li Ming is invited to visit Tong and Jam with his boyfriend. And honest conversations between the two of them happen all along the way. At the end of Moonlight Chicken Jam and Li Ming understand each other much better.
But why does this work?
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First, Jam tries to connect to Li Ming, suggesting shoes that she thinks he might like. But because she doesn't know her son, it's not a pair he's interested in. There is a moment where she looks upset, like maybe she's losing him again, but its gone soon after. But what does Jam do in response? She takes Jim's advice and she lets Li Ming guide her. This time, more casually where she just watches Li Ming, sees him pick up the shoes, take a picture of them, and walk away. So she buys them for him, because she doesn't often get the chance to give Li Ming what he wants. What is important and poignant about it is not the purchase itself, it's that she is showing Li Ming that she sees him.
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And furthering the olive branch Li Ming gives Jam a piece of himself. A piece of the chicken shop. A piece of his home. He gives her bubble tea too because as we know...food is love.
And because food is love, and Jam and Li Ming have re-centered themselves here in the mall, Jam and Li Ming are able to become the family they were supposed to be. They are able to share a table together
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Jam is allowed to know about and meet Heart, Jim feels free enough to commit to Wen as a boyfriend, Li Ming feels comfortable talking to his mother about his plans to go to America while Heart studies there. She is allowed to be involved and because she is finally stepping up to become more involved Jam finally sees Li Ming for the first time.
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Sees the way he looks at Heart, sees that he is responsible and ready and willing to work towards his goals, to pay back the money it requires to send him to America. She understands her son is becoming an adult, that queer love is just as strong and just as real. Sees why Li Ming fits better in Pattaya with Jim than he would with her.
Alan, Wen, and Jim
Now, one thing about me is that I love a good confrontation, so we know Moonlight Chicken fed me well with Alan. Alan is angry, and Alan is angry because he is unable to understand how and why a relationship that he had been in for six years suddenly fizzled out and died. Alan is desperate to find something, someone to blame, because the complicated factor in his relationship with Wen is that...there wasn't a good reason. Wen just...stopped being in love with Alan. And Alan can't get distance from that, from the grief of losing that relationship because he's still living with Wen, because he's still sharing a bed with Wen, because they've slept together at least once since they broke up, because Alan hasn't changed ("I've always been like this, you just stopped liking it") and he can't understand that Wen has.
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And when Alan first meets Jim and connects the dots, he has all day to let his assumptions take root. He has all day to think the worst, and to let his anger take root in the face of another man. Alan loves Wen, so Alan cannot blame Wen. Alan loves Wen, so it must be someone else's fault. It must be Jim's fault. Jim wooed Wen, if Jim hadn't been around maybe Alan and Wen could still be together.
If Alan wants to move on from Wen, Alan needs to be able to accept that their relationship is over. And if Alan wants to remain friends with Wen, then he needs to be able to accept Jim. But Alan has strong feelings, and navigating those changes takes far more than an episode. And Alan not only feels his emotions very strongly, but he is also convinced that everything is Jim's fault, so the question throughout the show with Alan is will he be able to accept these things?
So we inch the needle forward, Wen sits Alan down, tells him his feelings, that there was a part of him that originally hoped they could make it work. But eventually he realized it couldn't. Wen no longer loves Alan, the fire between them has died.
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This conversation gets us to the first step towards satisfying resolution when Wen ends up at Jim's doorstep. Finally allowing Alan to have some physical distance from Wen in order to process his emotions and start getting over Wen. But we know Alan takes it hard, spending New Year's Eve drinking, and gets into the accident. Wen drops everything to take care of Alan and Alan is able to see that even though Wen no longer loves Alan, romantically. He will never not care for him. But Alan is finally realizing that they need some separation:
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Though Alan has a perfect opportunity here to try to Wen's heart back, with Wen being ready to take care of him, to help him with physical therapy and everything. Alan takes as many opportunities as he possibly can to take the responsibility of physically caring for Alan away from Wen. This is good. This is healthy.
But as much as Alan is finally starting to accept Wen and him are over as a couple, he is still convinced that Jim is the reason why they broke up. But Jim is nice, Jim understands where Alan's anger is coming from, and Jim helps Alan. Alan, who is surprised when Jim rushes over to pick up the crutch he dropped and offer to call him a ride.
Alan who keeps seeing these instances where Jim tries to stop a fight, where Jim just lets himself take the hit. Where he apologizes for "taking [Alan's] pen", where he doesn't try to put blame on Alan for not being able to separate personal feelings from professional work.
"Are you two now together?" "We still aren't," "If it hadn't been for you, we would not have broken up like this," "But I wasn't there back then, I have only known Wen for less than 6 months."
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And it's the last thing Alan needs to hear, right from Jim's mouth, in order for him to finally let go of the hatred he's been harboring for this man. To finally embrace the reality that Wen simply fell out of love. And could this have come faster if Jim and Wen had just told Alan earlier that the timeline didn't work? Possibly, but I don't think Alan would have believed it before this point, because he had too much anger. Now that he has started to put some distance between him and Wen, now that he's starting to accept it, he is more willing to believe the truth.
Resolution: Alan accepts. He accepts his romantic relationship with Wen is over, leading to one of my favorite lines in the show.
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He accepts that Wen is still his friend, and that if he wants to keep Wen in his life then that means being around Jim. But he has been nothing but antagonistic to Jim with every interaction of theirs.
So when Alan shows up at the food truck for his date uh, I mean totally platonic business meeting, calling Wen his friend, there is still a possibility that Jim will take issue with Alan hanging around. Lucky for him, Jim understands in part the anger Alan felt, he knows Wen cares for Alan, and Jim cares for Wen (and honestly also because Alan is another member of the queer community who more than likely lost his connection to the queer community when he broke up with Wen) Jim invites Alan to join everyone for dinner.
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Jim and Li Ming
We know one of the bigger conflicts in this show is between Jim and Li Ming. Between Jim's need to protect his nephew from harm while struggling to see his nephew as a young adult instead of a child. The entire show is full of in-fighting between Jim and Li Ming, and it stems from a place of insecurity and fear for Jim, and a place of frustration from Li Ming about not being trusted to make decisions for himself, to understand potential consequences, to learn from mistakes, you name it.
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And we see the struggles they go through…together, learning from one another. We see it time and time again. Li Ming and Jim spend half their scenes together arguing.
The conflict between Jim and Li Ming has always been about protection, about Jim understanding power and how it can be wielded against him. About Jim's fears for Li Ming, the way the world might hurt him, the way his confidence in himself may one day be taken from him.
And we understand the importance of that not from an uncle and nephew perspective but from the perspective of a queer elder acting as a role model for a queer youth.
Jim and Li Ming's relationship is fracturing, but it's not broken yet. Because there is so much love between them. Li Ming may be becoming an adult, but he is still young, he still looks up to his seniors, he still seeks them out for advice. He may want to move to America, but he doesn't want to lose his connection to his community. He still relies on them, he is still more than willing to give his honest thoughts and feelings, when he trusts that he will be respected.
Li Ming is still young, Li Ming will forgive easily, Li Ming just needs to be shown that he is being listened to, and he will go right back to having a positive relationship. Which means it is up to Jim to battle against his own paradigms, his own fears, his own trauma in order to ensure the fracture between him and Li Ming can heal.
And the beauty of Li Ming is that he feels safe and comfortable with Jim, which means, compared to his first interaction with his mother in episode 7, he has no problem voicing his opinion, loudly, and pushing back against Jim's propensity to cower. And every time Li Ming pushes it hits Jim somewhere personal:
"Can you just tell me honestly? Are you truly happy? Is running a Chicken Rice diner really your dream?"
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"There must be boundaries" "If I'd become like Heart, you would do the same as Mrs. Jintana does, right?" "It's not the same," "If you have a friend who hasn't left the house in three years, and you were the only one who would take him out, would you do the same as I do?"
"Li Ming, I'm your Uncle," "So what? Adults can do no wrong? Adults can kiss, but kids cannot? Is it the wrong thing to do? Is the world coming to an end?" "Isn't it difficult enough to be born poor? And now you're gay?""So what? What's the big deal?"
If Jim wants to ensure that he and Li Ming maintain their strong relationship as Li Ming approaches adulthood, then Jim needs to answer these questions for himself and needs to see Li Ming as an adult.
Resolution:
In terms of seeing Li Ming as an adult, we get more of that resolution in episode 7. I think the lack of shame about his sexuality is what finally makes Jim see Li Ming as an adult. That he can accept this part of himself so easily, when Jim cannot. That Li Ming is aware that adults also make mistakes and Li Ming making his own mistakes does not inherently exclude him from being an adult. And my evidence for that is how quickly Jim switches sides. Li Ming leaves the house and then Jim and Jam are having a conversation where Jim says "You should ask [Li Ming] yourself". I'm going to skip over any deeper conversation re: episode 7 here because I already wrote about Jim and Li Ming in this episode. But I will say that at the end of episode 7 we have generally resolved the biggest issue: Jim now sees Li Ming as an adult.
In Episode 8, we as an audience get a second confirmation that Jim's mindset has shifted when he once again tells Jam "Li Ming should be able to decide what to do with his life." It tells us he meant it, it tells us he wasn't just saying that because he felt guilty for outing Li Ming, etc. But, because Jim has spent so much of his time trying to prevent Li Ming from making mistakes he needs to get on board with helping Li Ming through his mistakes instead. First step is accepting his role as a Queer Elder, which he does when he talks to Jam at the beginning of Episode 8:
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"Whatever mistake [Li Ming] is making, he has me to give advice."
But that isn't the end of Jim and Li Ming's resolution because Jim and Li Ming both still have some course correction to do to fully repair their relationship after so many fights. And that is achieved merely by...talking over bubble tea, getting to know each other better, getting to redo their fights in the way they originally should have been handled. Through conversation:
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"Are you tired Uncle Jim?" "I am, but I'm used to it,"
"I'm glad that you know what you like, and please know that you do nothing wrong,"
"But if you'd chosen to stay with some other relatives, your life might have been better," "No. Staying with you is the best,"
"Thank you, Uncle Jim, for everything," "Thank you too." "For what?" "For teaching me how to be more mature, even though you're still a kid."
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This time, instead of asking if he's happy, Li Ming asks if Jim is tired. Li Ming is finally able to see how exhausting Jim's life is, having to constantly take care of everybody and everything around him. Jim is finally able to admit that he is tired, he can confide more in his nephew.
Jim is able to ask Li Ming when he knew he was gay, Li Ming is able to affirm just like Wen did, that Jim is not the reason he is gay, and Jim is able to share his happiness for Li Ming in knowing himself but also is able to reverse the "Isn't it difficult enough to be poor? Now you're gay?" comment by affirming to Li Ming that he is doing nothing wrong.
Jim is allowed to express his concerns about Li Ming having been raised in poverty, because he was raised by Jim and how some of the pressure and stress that Li Ming is under may have been avoided if he had simply chosen to live with other family. And Li Ming is able to affirm to Jim that he is the best, that living with him has been the best. That despite all their fighting, all the strain that they've had, he has never regretted his choice. And this admission hits particularly hard when considering the queer elder/queer youth relationship they also hold. Of course Li Ming might not have lived in as much poverty as he did with Jim. But also, he almost certainly would not have known himself, or have been as comfortable or as confident in himself if he had not been raised by a queer man.
And then the thank yous. Now, children are generally expected to be grateful, and to thank adults, so while it is still nice that Li Ming thanks Jim, the important part of this conversation is the fact that Jim thanks Li Ming in return. Letting Li Ming know that he is aware that he has not always been acting the most mature, and that Li Ming has helped him grow as a person too. Li Ming does not need to feel guilty ever about fighting with Jim. He does not need to feel guilty ever about standing up for himself, speaking his mind, or calling out injustice. In fact, that has helped Jim break free of the walls he has built around himself.
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Knowing that Li Ming is still planning on going to America, and could potentially be there for years without going back home, it is absolutely vital that they have this conversation. It's a Going Away conversation. And it's very on the nose that almost immediately after Jim thanks him, Li Ming goes to leave. But he comes back, and he hugs Jim, and he says "I love you, Uncle". And to be that is P'Aof's way of saying, Li Ming may leave his family for the states, but he will return to his family. Whether that is permanently or just to visit, it doesn't matter. What matters is that Jim and Li Ming have weathered the storm, and Li Ming loves him at the end of all things.
Jim and Wen
Honestly, I thought about leaving Wen and Jim's couple resolution out of this post because there was never really any tension between them. What needed to be resolved here was Jim finally allowing himself to move forward, to heal from Beam, and he has been doing that for the entire show. Wen has just been waiting patiently nearby while Jim carves a hole through his walls with a kitchen knife. But there have been so many other stressors in Jim's life that have truly prevented him from going all in. He was too concerned about Li Ming, about the diner, about securing a loan, about Jam, about what he would do after this, about the death of Mrs. Hong. But throughout it, Wen has been there. He has seen Wen be stable, always show up, be patient, be empathetic, push where needed, listen where needed. Jim has seen Li Ming take to Wen, has seen Wen fold himself in to the community here. I honestly think it is the resolution Jim has with Li Ming that finally gives Jim the final push he needs to risk a new love with Wen. Because it is not until after everything else in Jim's life has been resolved: Gaipa knows what he is doing in the future and is no longer heartbroken over him, Jam has told him that she doesn't mind that Li Ming is gay and also she back down from making Li Ming move, Jim strengthens his relationship to Li Ming, Jim sells the diner, Jim buys the food truck. Then and only then, when Jim is sitting around the dinner table with his family is he able to say what we have all been waiting for:
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"This is Wen, my boyfriend,"
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hummingbirdsinjune · 1 year
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Time to be sad Moonlight Chicken is ending
- Jim said, Jam, you can't keep a man. And that was very funny.
- oh yes more Li Ming and Jim joking around
- They're flirting so much I forgot what show I'm watching
- Wen you are crazy and I can never decide if I love it or hate it
- Jim bringing Wen around Gaipa in regards to the funeral and mourning is so weird lmao but yolo I guess
- Leaving Wen and Gaipa alone?? Even weirder
- and then they were boyfriends. Sjdnfjjsnxnc
- "Staying with you is the best" wksnfkejs 😭 this kid
- photoshoot time. Jim's gonna become a model
- Gong really likes to pick and choose when he's a good friend
- lmao Saleng brought the jokes today I love him so much
- and they were BOYFRIENDS
- "I love it when I'm with him." Li Ming I'm gonna cry who made you so sweet
- CUTE. CUTE. CUTE.
- welcome to the family, Alan. Just accept it okay.
- faked me out with the credits there
- "I just wanna stay home" 😭
- 😳 uncle Jim sir
- oh I am so happy I loved this little gay chicken show
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hughungrybear · 1 year
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Is it possible to sue GMMTV for what they are doing to my heart? No? Okay. 😭😭😭
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pharawee · 1 year
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Li Ming, you can just talk to him. Touch him. When he can’t hear, physical touch will make him feel like there’s someone next to him.
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circuscl0wn · 1 year
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We are not gonna talk about how Li Ming made Heart comfortable and confident enough to introduce himself with his name. When he said his name to Li Ming’s mom and Tong my heart swelled
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chickenstrangers · 1 year
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Moonlight Chicken (2023) // repetitions // ep. 6 → ep. 8
"I want home. Home where someone waits for me. When I get home, all my tiredness is gone. When I'm home, I have peace of mind."
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