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#oh but i actually posted this because of how parasocially connected i am to the rookie fandom
kazoosandfannypacks · 19 days
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fans of drama when their drama is being a drama: oh no it's being a drama!
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katyspersonal · 23 days
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I accidentally stumbled upon a post you rbbed about canon characters who beat each other up violently and in fanon they violently make out and your tags about alfred and the cainhurst crow have made something in me stir. this is a brilliant pairing how did I never consider this
Oh, damn really now fshgdfdsg This pairing is actually a controversial classic of this fandom, on the level with Ariadella or Bradmon!! I am glad to give you an Insight point on accident hahaha; I believe it's normally called Crowfred, I tend to opt out for Alfeater! Ships where one or both characters aren't named goddamit..
My style of discussions about ships is to offer some more Insights like some dealer but with autism instead of drugs, so.. Two things:
1) Their age and/or timeline gap is uncertain!
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In original Japanese script, Alfred doesn't call himself a "protege" of Master Logarius, which leaves it up to interpretation whether he even met Logarius in person or simply adores him parasocially! Should Bloody Crow come directly from Cainhurst, that'd make him much older than Alfred!
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On the other hand, despite Arianna and Bloody Crow (and Fauxsefka, for that matter) existing, Annalise says that you are the only one consanguineously connected with her! It could come from the effect expiring over time if the person doesn't take her blood, which is what I am using. But at the same time, the Vilebloods we know might actually be descendants of the surviving ones! I've had some analysis on Arianna in this ( x ) post, but the gist of it: since actual noble dresses are silver, but hers is burgundy and coincidentally stretches during pregnancy no problem, her mother might have ran away while pregnant with Arianna!
But why Bloody Crow could not be similar, simply a descendant of the Vilebloods that never met Annalise in person and follows the mental image? Both Alfred and Crow could be caught in the unhealthy quest of admiring a person they've never met, continuing the rituals and the ideas of their ancestors they might not fully grasp, and moreover, continuing the old violent ideological conflict they don't even know the actual roots of or the reasons of continuing. They "gotta" kill each other because... why? Who told them they should? What about their own lives, not lives and honour of their 'ancestors'? It adds a lot of drama, and even makes stopping the war that isn't even their with love of all things more romantic!
At the same time, if one of them IS older and smarter, it opens up a whole other potential for the story. Crow could push the "naive fool" away from the crazy quest, or Alfred could convince Crow that sacrifices for "child of blood" is an evil and cursed thing. ....only if either of them calms their murderous unhinged energy for a second. :') And IF they both hail from the 'OG conflict' (time works strange ways in Yharnam), there is the appeal of simply growing tired from the pointless conflict which already destroyed both sides and they can face it together. Bonus controversy points depending on how many of each others side they've killed yet: Alfred straight up identifies as hunter of Vilebloods, whereas Crow is found in Grand Cathedral and strangely wields Healing Church's gun instead of something from Cainhurst (was he looting the victims or something?)
2) There is an alternative way to go about their story!
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What if you read Alfred's deep resentment towards Annalise "seducing" people not as some hateful propaganda of the Church he's probably parroting, but as an actual precedent of something that happened? What if Bloody Crow wielding a Healing Church weapon IS his? What if the two used to BOTH be with the Healing Church and look for Annalise together, and one time Bloody Crow managed to reach his goal.. only to be completely charmed by Annalise and betray the Healing Church to join the Vilebloods instead, and he is only acting like crow-feathered Hunter of Hunters to have easier access to murdering people rather than beasts! (Djura pls stop trying to intervene let me finish typing the post ffs hfdjfdshsdfh)
So, Alfred IS pretty mad at his friend having chosen to simp instead, but can't blame Crow himself for it. This idea does need to address why then Annalise says you're 'the only one', as well as how would Crow overcome Logarius being an obstacle? @val-of-the-north says that maybe Bloody Crow instead joined via some other surviving Vileblood outside, so what we have. Parasocial? Telepathy? Communication via bell teleports? In either case, I think this is also an alternative idea worth exploring! Less dramatic, but also less controversial? (though would Alfred be a possessive jealous EX then? who knows..)
I want you to know though: I am actually kinda indifferent towards this ship by 'default', but while typing this reply I was going a little 😳 and thinking this is actually pretty great...? So, I've accidentally made YOU interested in it, and by YOUR interest, you've made ME interested in it- What is going onnnn dshhfdshdsf THIS IS TOO FUNNY HELP
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P.S.: It is a no brainer that similar thinking applies to Ariadella in many parts! Adella only murders Arianna if she "dirtied" Hunter's blood for like three times, but in all cases, there is hope to look past fanatical brainwashing / glory and honour of ancestors respectively.. The way I see it, the message Miyazaki put here (and WOULD put here, considering his track record) is more "both sides were corrupt as fuck leeching on Yharnam in their own ways and this war was always pointless" than "church bad vampires good" fdsjhhdfs They all can talk..... this contradiction is so meaningless, ESPECIALLY if you are only continuing the ways of your ancestors before you had a choice to develop your own world-view. god. just talk, guys/girls....
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kwangyanese · 3 months
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i feel like its easier for me to follow/like boygroups now bc i dont really get emotionally invested. i actually think i wont ever get that invested into a group again after aespa. and not to ramble but i feel like a hypocrite because i told myself i was gonna leave kpop but i guess i surrounded myself with it online so badly in the past 3 years i'd probably have to either 1) redo all my accounts and unfollow all my moots 2) try to get obsessed with something else and make the algorythm "renew" itself. truth i'd lose many moots that i like if i did the 1st and i'm already doing the 2nd but i feel frustrated for how slow it is plus i end up watching kpop videos to chill anyway. and when i 'judge' (not that i go around annoying them about it) my kpop moots for still posting about idols that either haven't spoken up or are doing deals w pro-israel brands it's like throwing stones from a glass house LOL i mean at least i'm not posting about #those idols but i still haven't left kpop as a whole which imo would be ideal lol. well, again, what i'm into rn is just tvxq and riize and as much as i can go awww <3 i don't feel nothing beyond that. sorry to objectify idols but i'd drop them in a instant i just can't truly connect with men in general.... and to be even more honest i still have feelings for ningning that i'm trying to get rid of.... it's actually quite sad how far a parasocial relationship will ruin you.... like sure i like shotaro he is quite actually such a sweet guy that so far hasnt had a single moment where i went "oh he is a man after all" and i like jaejoong/changmin/yunho but i missed so much of their fandom lore so i don't know them that well lmfao it makes me feel distant. and i dont feel the need to get closer to neither of them. oh that reminds me that the only (parasocial) closeness i felt to a man was jonghyun and then atsushi and they are literally dead rn (rip)... like fr i know ur not supposed to put ppl on a pedestal, nobodys perfect etc but i do feel the least i can do as a person is expect someone i like to do the bare minimum and theres only do much i can ignore (like ningning being obsessed with malnourishing herself and bleaching her skin into oblivion to look whiter hello!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) but i think what's really making me feel liek the Odd One Out is that every other my is just going about their business as usual and aespa enthusiasts don't care fr theyre just there for the pretty girls. it was only me and this one moot that i saw be disgusted with the whole thing and dropping them and like........... seeing other mys not do anything at all just makes me think like even if it was another situation would they not care also? like what would it take for these ppl to be like Woah hey this is not right. or am i thinking too much? maybe it's not that serious? if anything perhaps this was the last straw for me bc aespa was already literally ruining my day either for always lying or for sm being a terrible company to their ggs, and me being excited about aespa coming to brazil literally got me into a scam and i ended up losing over $1k (thats on me though but still. if i hadnt become a fan that wouldnt have happened), and the general stress a parasocial relationship brings (stressed out bc ningning doesnt know i exist and that i loved her so much). i feel stupid and i know it's stupid for writing these kind of these cos there's literally more important things going on. i'm nothing but a drop of water in the sea and sharing my thoughts is like screaming into a void it means nothing at all. anyway good morning.
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petersthree · 1 year
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🌻🌻🌻🌻🌻 (you don't have to tell me that many things you just deserve a whole field uwu)
I mean obviously I'm gonna give you 5 of them <3 I've decided to just give you 5 random-ass facts about me that you probably don't know
I currently have 58 created playlists in my spotify. I don't really know how I got here. Spotify Premium was a mistake actually. I will be making more. In my head is a Janine from Abbott playlist I just don't have a funny name for it yet
On the topic of spotify, I realized recently that some people listen to music and have like. An emotional connection to it? Like it makes them feel emotional. For like themselves. idk man I usually just have that if I think about characters/tv shows/ships etc for the lyrics and when I realized that people have it for themselves I was like wow. Okay, yeah. Makes sense. But I just don't ;aldsjflk really get it.
You already know this but I have a massive parasocial love and hatred of Zayn Malik. And boy oh boy I have been wanting to listen to his songs this week. So I listen and my face is like a mixture of smiling and frowning bc his voice is so fucking pretty! But also. You know. I'm listening to Zayn.
I don't know why but I decided a few months ago that I wanted to watch every single SNL episode ever created and make a definitive ranking of every single episode and season. I even am working on a playlist! Why am I doing this? idk lmao I just really find late-night television history really fascinating and if I'm going to read all the books written about this stuff I might as well watch it all and note how culture and comedy has evolved over the years. It's fascinating! Season 1 is awful and with the nature of live sketch comedy and this show in particular I'm sure it's gonna be a reeeeal mixed bag. However it's also just. Fascinating asdfjkl I feel like I'm performing a case study of some kind.
I've somehow gotten really into the r/Nanny subreddit. I'm not a nanny, nor do I ever expect to hire a nanny. But for some reason the sub just calls to me. I read it every single goddamn day. I follow people's stories and updates. I'm invested in their posts. I read an entire job posting someone asked for feedback on Just Because. idk man I just find the sub interesting
send me a 🌻 and ill just tell you whatever the fuck i want
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triflesandparsnips · 2 years
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time for me to talk about RPF
why now? don’t worry about it
Some brief thoughts on why it’s okay to write Real Person Fiction
Because the people being written about aren’t real.
Unless we know them personally (and I mean personally), the only “person” we know is the mask that has been crafted specifically to be shared with an audience. It is just as “real,” to be frank, as any character they play -- they know they’re being observed, and in being observed, they change. To assume that we are getting access to the “real” person, or that we have some kind of personal relationship with them because they are projecting a persona that is friendly/casual/public, is just another parasocial dreamscape.
Example time: I am not who I “am” in real life here, or on twitter, or at work, or at conventions -- although all those places constitute parts of my real life. Much like my fiction, they all contain aspects of me, parts that I want to specifically share with an audience for my own purposes. You could write about “me” and find all sorts of details about my “real” life I’ve dropped in various public locations and come up with something very close to me... but it’ll still be as close as an-AU-where-they’re-all-baristas fic is to canon. You can infer a great deal about the real me based on the persona I choose to share, but you can’t actually know me. Anything you write about me, with whatever level of understanding you have, begins and ends as fiction.
Or, as I have said to random fuckos who try to DM me pickup lines in my gd twitter:
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Some brief thoughts on when Real Person Fiction is not okay
For all that it’s not real... there are people on the other side of that name. People who don’t know the context that you’re creating under, or who aren’t completely sure that you know that y’all aren’t IRL friends.
Places RPF thoughts, theories, and fiction don’t belong:
in a real person’s social media
in a real person’s loved ones’ and/or coworkers’ social media
at their goddamn homes or places of businesses, jfc
If your immediate thought to any of the above is “but I want to see if I’m right!!” then you are too close to this shit, stand the fuck down.
Example time: I once had a fandom post get some decent notes. It had a downer of a joke in it, but that was sort of the point. Some people responded, or even just tagged, with the usual hyperbolic #OH HELLO SATAN type of tumblr reactions, which is of course delicious. Some people, though, went in a direction where even I -- who knows about tumblr hyperbole and that this post would elicit it -- was uncertain about whether these people genuinely hated me.
And that’s me! Who knows the context of what I was doing and how people would respond! So imagine these actors or writers or public people or whatever who have NO FUCKING CLUE about the context. Or even if they have a clue, it’s by its nature kind of fucky because while it MAY feel like we know them, they definitely DON’T KNOW US.
(If your immediate thought to the above is that “but they could know me!! If I’m clever and friendly enough we could be buddies!!” then you are again too close, step away.)
Consider why you’re having your RPF thinky-thoughts! Is it because you want to explore an intangible thing, and these people (characters) are the best vehicle to do so? That’s valid! Our Flag Means Death uses real people as a vehicle to tell queer narratives. Clementine von Radics’s “Kim Kardashian Redux” uses real people to talk about consent, power, sexual exploitation, and revenge (nota bene: This poem also demonstrates the danger of using people who are still alive and changing for your works. CvR regrets using Kardashian now to tell this narrative. I myself have a Glee RPF that will never be finished because hooboy. Pick your vehicles, and be cognizant of their ephemerality). 
But if the reason you’re sharing your RPF thoughts is because you want to be able to ~~connect~~ irl with the person about whom you’re writing/thinking? NOPE.
(YOU CANNOT CONNECT WITH THEM. THESE PEOPLE DON’T EXIST IN THE WORLD PURELY TO PERSONALLY CONNECT WITH YOU. DON’T BE THAT DUDE WHO TRIES TO TALK TO THE GIRL WITH THE HEADPHONES ON. SHE IS BUSY HAVING HER OWN GODDAMN LIFE AND GOALS AND MAYBE SHE JUST WANTED TO BE CHILL AND LOOK CUTE WITHOUT YOU ALL UP IN HER BUSINESS, JESUS.)
(ALSO ALL GENDERS ARE CAPABLE OF BEING FUCKING CREEPY. DON’T BE CREEPY.)
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Some brief thoughts on when to tell real people about Real People Fiction, Theories, and/or Art
Never.
What if it’s someone else’s Real People Fiction, Theories, and/or Art
Wow, also never.
But what if I think they’d really like it
You have no basis for believing that. Even evidence that they have sought out and read/seen RPF does not constitute consent. They chose that -- don’t take away their choice to see or not see what’s out there.
But what if that means they’ll never see this really amazing/sweet/accurate/thoughtful/hot--
Then they’ll never see it. The world is full of things that will never be seen. That’s okay. You don’t get to curate someone else’s experience of the world.
But trifles, you yourself are trying to control how we interact with Real People, isn’t that kind of related to all this “consent” stuff you’re talking about here? And while we’re at it, why not just... condemn RPF if you’re going to be so judgy about it
I mean, you’re right. I am totally trying to convince you to not creep out the people who produce the content we like. I would also try and convince you to not creep on the girl with her headphones on. I am generally against creepiness.
I do, though, think there’s a difference between “creating RPF because it tells the story we want to tell” and “sharing RPF because we think it creates a bridge over the parasocial divide.”
Humans have been telling stories about each other for a really long time because that’s how we process our experiences. I’ve seen RPF written by anonymous actors about other real actors, who are just trying to process their own goddamn issues about acting. And I personally like actor/author RPF, but don't generally give a damn about most any other (I barely count historical people showing up in fic as RPF), because so much of “creative person” RPF is about figuring out how to balance the personal with the public, and/or dealing with this deeply weird art of personifying Others for stretches at a time-- and how you do it, and what it does to you. Because that is a thing that I think about a lot as it relates to my own life! For me, processing that through writing about other actors/authors, rather than oneself, adds a layer of very necessary abstraction. 
But my fiction is not made to connect to some specific person. I write it because it says something I need to say, and/or it says something others might need to hear. The moment I get particular about it -- with a stranger -- is when the RPF stops serving its purpose as a tool for telling stories, and becomes a hammer to break down walls I have no right to breach.
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thank you for coming to my ted talk, yes I’m thinking about this because I am considering the ethical implications of putting OFMD RPF out into the world
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alienheartattack · 3 years
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2, 8, 10, 13, 31, 34, please (tho I know that's a lot, lol, sorry)
Oh no, an excuse to talk about myself. Well, anon, if you insist. (Thank you for giving me an excuse to ramble about myself.)
2. if you could change anything about yourself, what would it be?
I wish I was less lazy and more disciplined. The fact that I get anything done is a fucking miracle. (Having depression and the crushing demands of late capitalism certainly don't help, but I could also be doing more for myself.)
8. what color do you think goes best with your personality?
A therapist once told me that red was my "power color" so I'm gonna go with that. I'm an Aries and I've got a ton of Mars/other fire elements in my various horoscopes, plus I've got kind of a fiery personality. Maybe a darker red, like a wine color, because I am also very into lounging and not doing shit.
10. what do you wish you hated, but actually like?
THIS FUCKING MANGA. (J/k. Sort of. I don't know anymore.)
You know what I actually wish I hated? Dairy products. I'm moderately lactose intolerant and I cannot quit cheese, and I will keep eating it and getting sick because dairy is delicious and I am weak. (I've managed to quit milk completely, if only because it makes me violently ill. I can tolerate cheese to an extent.)
13. talk about an au or story you came up with
I'm currently writing a novel, but I want to talk about the novel I came up with while writing the novel. So the romantic lead in my current WIP is based on a specific actor, which led me to think about how absolutely fucking mortified I'd be if my book ever got published and got big enough that I'd have any reason to meet this guy. So that led me to the idea of, what happens when an actor meets his biggest fan and she absolutely does not want to meet him?
I'm still writing down ideas and getting to know the characters, but so far it involves Shay, a woman who's grieving the loss of her mother after a long battle with cancer and the estrangement of her siblings due to hurt feelings about their mom's will. (Their father passed when they were all young.) Shay decides to get involved in her town's drama festival that summer to give her something to do and to try to get her back in the swing of socializing again, since she spent the past few years taking care of her mother during her illness.
Shay is excited to take a step into a new life until she finds out that the drama festival's big get this year is Nicholas Byrd, a character actor who's extremely talented and has had a steady career, but has never really had his big breakthrough. Shay just happens to be one of his biggest fans; she runs his fansite along with one other friend. In fact, her only friends are the people she met online through fandom, and they all help work on this site and its associated social media. She decided years ago that she was not going to try to meet Nick because even though she's infatuated with him, she's terrified of making a fool of herself in front of him and she doesn't want to find out that he's an asshole in real life. She recognizes that his work imprinted on her in a stressful and vulnerable time in her life and tries to indulge her obsession in a healthy way, but her work with the drama festival, her growing friendship with Nick, and the tension it's causing among her fandom friend group is turning her life upside down.
It's a romance so they're going to fall in love, obvs. Nick is going through an existential crisis because he feels torn between his love of acting and his desire for recognition for his work, because he busts his ass and is genuinely talented, but ends up getting killed off in half the roles he takes or is overshadowed by bigger names. He took this drama festival gig because it seemed like something simple and easy to get him back to his love of the craft of acting, but the longer he stays, the more he finds himself making excuses to hang around Shay. (There's also a subplot about how he's a huge animal lover and thinks her dog is the cutest thing in the world.)
I'm excited to work on this story because I really want to dig into the idea of parasocial relationships, healthy and unhealthy expressions of fandom, and how we form connections with others. Shay's closest friend turns out to be a toxic fan who gets upset and possessive as she gets closer to Nick, and Nick has had his own run-ins with this fan in the past. I'm also excited to dig into Shay's feelings of isolation and grief and trying to reemerge into the world, which I'm only now realizing is a parallel for the end of the pandemic.
I'm like 70% done the massive first draft of my novel so hopefully I'll get to write this story sometime next year!
31. how easy is it for you to be honest?
Pretty easy! If anything, I overshare or tell the full truth instead of doing the tactful white lie thing. (I have since gotten better at that; sometimes it is just better socially to be nice rather than brutally honest.)
34. what food do you binge on when you’re lazy?
I am blessed to live in a neighborhood with a large Mexican population and amazing food. I will shove nachos into my face at the drop of a hat, though lately I've been crushing quesabirria and consomme from the taqueria around the corner (see above re: me being weak for cheese).
If you’d like to ask me more questions, here’s the post!
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