paul seeing his sister bringing the ocean to the desert right before being revived thru the tears of the desert spring............. anyone else having thoughts or......
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Some thoughts on Dune, media literacy and the way we interact (and do not interact) with difficult topics in fiction....
Buddy, imma say this with kindness in my heart.... If this gets you 'tweaking' then you aren't gonna like the ending of Children of Dune...
On the media literacy note.... big sigh.
It is explicitly said that Feyd and Paul were meant to marry and have a child had Paul been born a girl - obviously the natural reaction is to consider what the nature/implications of that would have been. The source material is EXPLICITLY telling you that they were made for eachother, destined to be together. This is also the text EXPLICITLY telling you that this relationship would be an acceptable thing in this world. Therefore engaging with this concept is not at all a reach and is very much backed up by the source material. People are not getting this idea from nowhere.
(Also if that still offends you, they're not actually first cousins but cousins once removed and 2 seconds of thinking about the family tree would have made that obvious, not that it really matters at all in the context of this story, but it is a very easy feat of inductive reasoning)
The fact is that this is a story about ruling families and (as they almost always do) it involves a degree of incest. This is ESPECIALLY true in the world of Dune where these people are being selectively bred like show dogs to have certain genetic characteristics, I hope I do not have to patronise anyone by explaining how that works. Especially given as Reverend Mother Mohiam says this, oh, 10 pages into the first book:
People who haven't read the literature love to lecture people on literacy, funny.
So, in conclusion, if this is how you feel then, with love, Dune is not the story for you. The fact is that a degree of incest IS normalised in this universe and if you're inclined toward tedious moralising based on writers exploring difficult ideas in fiction then I'm honestly surprised you ended up here in the first place. Dune is a story that constantly presents the reader with difficult ideas and invites them to critique and analyse them for themselves, including the morality of the Bene Gesserit breeding programme. In Dune no character is morally pure, no ideology is beyond corruption and no path is free of ugly choices. As adults we can engage with these difficult topics as we wish.
*Sigh* A few years ago these people learned the term 'media literacy' and they've been insufferable ever since.
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like what do you mean I'm 15 yrs younger than you in body but just as old you in spirit. what do you mean I've known and adored you from the womb. what do you mean we share a terrible purpose. what do you mean you're a god and i'm your priestess. what do you mean I've killed in your name
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Me, fighting the urge to post my messy work-in-progress sketch of Paul Atreides and his sister Alia Atreides.
I failed.
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hiiiii i will literally be going insane over this forever
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They Really Had Wanted To Make This Clear.
Opening Line of "Dune - Part II"
"Sister, Father is dead."
-Translation for Audience from Denis.
"Alright. Goddamn it! I don't know how I can be anymore clearer to you bunch of Assholes! Paul did not put a baby in Jessica! He did not impreg his mom! I deleted half their scenes together in the previous movie so people would stop thinking they're in a secret relationship! This is not an Incest baby! My Clocktower!"
-Audience walking out of "Dune - Part II"
"Is it me or did Jessica have more romantic moments with Paul than Chani did?"
"Are they implying that Alia and Paul are soul mates?"
"I think Alia might be Paul's daughter since they can communicate mentally."
-Denis
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