#postumus

[corporialus]

Beautiful Aureus featuring a rare 3/4 Facing bust of Postumus, reverse features Postumus seated, suppliant before him.

#ancient coins #ancient rome #ancient art #ancient history #aureus #roman empire #postumus #gallic empire

[whencyclopedia]

Postumus

Postumus was Roman emperor from 260 to 269 CE. Marcus Cassianus Latinius Postumus was a trusted military commander of Emperor Gallienus (253-268 CE) and governor or Germania Superior and Inferior (Upper and Lower Germany). After the death of his father Valerian in 260 CE, Gallienus left him in charge of military operations in the west. It was a mistake the inexperienced and trustworthy emperor would soon regret, for the commander's own troops would take advantage of Gallienus's absence to declare Postumus emperor. It was a move that allowed him to establish himself as the ruler of the Gallic Empire, which included Gaul, Spain, and eventually Britain.

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#Barracks_Emperors #Crisis_of_the_Third_Century #Gallienus #Postumus #Roman_Emperor #history

[whencyclopedfr]

Gaule romaine

La Gaule romaine est un terme générique désignant plusieurs provinces romaines d'Europe occidentale :

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#Histoire #GauleRomaine #EmpireRomain #Postumus

[uncleclaudius]

Portrait of Agrippa Postumus, grandson and adopted son of Augustus. In 6 AD Postumus was exiled to the island of Planasia, where he was murdered shortly after his grandfather's death in 14 AD.

#agrippa postumus #caesar augustus #roman empire #ancient rome #bust

[wolframpant]

"But at least he is still here. Yes, still here. And they've all gone, every one of them."

#I Claudius #Iclaudiusedit #emperor claudius #tiberius claudius caesar augustus germanicus #germanicus #herod agrippa #antonia minor #livia drusilla #caesar augustus #agrippa postumus #yes domina made me rewatch i claudius #not greatest in historical accuracy #but the drama #oh the drama #Cladius is the survivor and he outlives everyone but his biggest tragedy is that it wasn't worth it #also there isn't a single scene between claudius and his sister livilla when they are adults and only one when they are children #perioddramaedit

[softandangel]

#ilk postumu atayım çok hoşuma gitti

[just-late-roman-republic-things]

hi! you say that agrippa postumus would make a nasty emperor if he become one. sometimes i wonder, what about augustus' other grandsons? from what i read (in powell's agrippa bio book) they were spoiled brats but they were young when they died. beside that, i wonder what if agrippa survived and succeeded augustus? would he face the same problem tiberius had with the senate but for different reason (i read that aristocrats hate him)? what about drusus? so yeah.. basically historical what if.

Abandon facts, all ye who enter here!

It's not clear whether Agrippa Postumus was really all that bad. I've got a longer post talking about other reasons he might have been Augustus' least-favorite grandchild. However, Augustus was usually a good judge of competence, so there probably was some reason why Postumus wasn't well-suited for ruling an empire. Augustus had also elevated Tiberius to effectively co-emperor by the last years of his reign, precisely to make Tiberius' ascension as smooth and undisputed as possible.

I suspect that the only way Postumus would come to power would be if Tiberius died just before Augustus did. But even then, it probably wouldn't be for long. Julio-Claudian emperors needed the support of the army and Senate to hold onto power, and Postumus seems to have been very good at alienating people. My best guess is that he'd get displaced by the more popular Germanicus - either by vote of the Senate or by assassination.

What about his brothers, Gaius Caesar and Lucius Caesar? Assuming that both had lived to see Augustus die in 14 CE, Gaius would've been 33, and Lucius 30. Since they both started their administrative/military careers as teenagers, and were widely popular, either one would've been in a great position to take over. This would've been great news for their mother Julia, who'd probably be recalled from exile, and for Tiberius, who didn't want to rule anyway. If both boys lived, the job would most likely go to Lucius, since Gaius asked to be released from public service after he became seriously ill.

Both boys died young enough that it's hard to gauge how capable they would've been as emperors. They weren't spoiled; if anything, Augustus seems to have put a lot of pressure on his (grand)kids. (You're probably thinking of the incidents where crowds greeted Lucius over-enthusiastically at 11, or tried to elect Gaius consul at 14. Augustus was irritated because he thought this could make the kids big-headed, but there's no indication of Gaius or Lucius actually misbehaving. Gaius also was pretty rude to Tiberius one time, but that probably stemmed from resentment of how his mother Julia had been treated, not Gaius generally being a dick.) They probably would've been average-to-decent, simply because most rulers are in peacetime, and they would've had a lot of experience under Augustus' (overbearing) watchful eye.

If Drusus had outlived Gaius and Lucius, he likely would've been Augustus' next choice of successor, and quite good at it, too. He was an able administrator and general like Tiberius, and much better at working with people. Plus, Drusus' grandkids were also Augustus' great-grandkids via Agrippina the Elder, and Augustus wanted his descendants to inherit.

There would be several other benefits, too. For one thing, Tiberius would be much happier, less overworked, and may not have had the depression/breakdown/??? that led him to retire to Rhodes. The Julian and Claudian branches of the family probably wouldn't have been at odds, at least not as much, since both saw their future in Drusus' grandkids. Drusus' outgoing personality and stronger leadership would probably be less vulnerable to the manipulations of Sejanus, so we might have seen Caligula's older brothers survive and rule instead of him. As the most skilled commander of the German campaigns, Drusus would've likely also consolidated Roman control up to the Elbe River.

Anyway, that's just my best guess. It's a shame, because Gaius, Lucius or Drusus taking over would seem more probable than all three of them dying young. Emperor Tiberius was sort of a "bad ending" from Augustus' perspective. Not the worst - worst would be civil war - but if not for some crappy luck, the Julio-Claudians might've been much happier and more well-adjusted.

#just roman asks #gaius caesar #lucius caesar #agrippa postumus #nero claudius drusus #alternate history #ancient rome #tiberius #octavian #how many times can i say 'probably' in one post? the answer may surprise you #jlrrt essays

[durulmak]

Olaylar karşısında verdiğim tepkilere göre hislerimi tanımaya çalışıyorum. Çok fazla buna ne gerek vardı dediğim tepkiler oluyor. Bunun altında yatan hissin ne olduğunu bir türlü bulamıyorum. Affedilmeyecek şeyler olmadığını düşünüyorum yaşanan bazı şeylerin. Ama buna rağmen kalbimi doğrultamadığım bişeyler var. Öfke mi kırgınlık mı bana bu tepkileri verdiren bir türlü anlayamıyorum. Önceden her ne kadar dilime hakim olamasam da konuşma esnasında birşeylerin yıkılmasına sebep olmaktan korkarken bugün yıkmaktan korkmadan ve ne olacaksa olsun diyerek konuştum. Bu bana yeni yüklemiş bi his ona karşı. İçimde beni bu raddeye götüren şeyi bulup çözemedikçe daha da beter hale geliyor herşey.

#ebrar bu postumu okuyup beni yönlendirsen keşkee

[augustus-hater]

Can’t sleep. Thinking about Agrippa dying in childbirth again.

#agrippaposting #agrippa postumus

[skitskatdacat63]

This is obscure history stuff but, I need to talk abt it so you must deal.

So I was reading about the first Habsburg emperor, Frederick III, and oh my god, it seriously read like a comedy. He had the longest rule of any Holy Roman Emperor, right? So im like wahhhhh he must be a pretty good ruler. And granted, he was pretty pragamatic, and would try and make treaties instead of starting conflicts. But the hilarious thing is that he basically succeeded by just outliving all of his adversaries. His strategy was basically "alright, let's see what happens." And it always just worked out for him????

Every single time I started thinking "uh oh this isn't going to work out for him," whoever was in his way would just die??? And not even in a way that involved him, literally just happenstance. First, he becomes the head of the family after two fortuitous deaths. Oh he's having a conflict over land in Austria? Boom his main opponent happens to get assassinated for a completely different reason, and Frederick III is there to reap the inheritance rewards. Oh, the kid he's the guardian of, who happens to be the heir to the Austrian throne, dies of illness? Well, don't worry, Frederick III is there to be the new heir. While trying to sort out the Bohemian throne, one of the potential candidates just uh dies midway through. Okay. Oh, Frederick III's brother is challenging his rule? Well, he just dies suddenly, leaving Frederick III's rule unchallenged, yay! Uh oh, the guy challenging him for the throne of Austria is actually winning rn??? Don't you worry because he just ends up dying suddenly halfway through.

I'm not saying he never made any good decisions or wasn't clever, but so many of his successes just panned out bcs all the people opposing him just died randomly 😭 Truly the most 15th Century narrative ever

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#actually the best subplot is abt the kid who he was the guardian of #its so fucked(hilarious) bcs the kid's father died before he was born right? #so his name was Ladislaus. but they all called him Ladislaus Postumus 😭😭😭 WHY DID THEY DO HIM DIRTY LIKE THAT #i just found it funny how hes there 🧍‍♂️ and frederick iii is kinda just waiting in the wings like okay die please #but god funniest bio i rver read #just bcs as i said everh time i felt a bit tense for him the other dude just died and then frederick inherited all his stuff 😭 #bro out here metaphorically looting bodies #im much mlre focused on 1700s-now right? #but the middle ages are hilarious tbh they were rly just doing anything back then #catie.rambling.txt

[corporialus]

Coins of Postumus

Aureus of Postumus in the guise of Hercules, reverse depicts Hercules grasping a mare.

Gold Aureus of Postumus, featuring the busts of Postumus and Hercules on the obverse and Victoria and Felicitas on the reverse.

Aureus featuring helmeted bust of Postumus on the obverse and a trophy with two seated captives beneath on the reverse.

Postumus is widely considered to have some of the most well engraved and unique coins of the third century, and completely surpasses his rival Gallienus in terms of interesting coinage.

#ancient coins #ancient rome #ancient art #ancient history #roman art #aureus #postumus

[whencyclopedfr]

Postume

Postume fut empereur romain de 260 à 269 de notre ère. Marcus Cassianus Latinius Postumus était un commandant militaire de confiance de l'empereur Gallien (253-268 de notre ère) et gouverneur de la Germanie supérieure et inférieure (Haute et Basse Allemagne). Après la mort de son père Valérien en 260 de notre ère, Gallien lui confia la responsabilité des opérations militaires à l'ouest. C'était une erreur que l'empereur inexpérimenté et naïf allait bientôt regretter, car les propres troupes du commandant allaient profiter de l'absence de Gallien pour déclarer Postume empereur. Cette décision lui permit de s'imposer en tant que souverain de l'Empire gaulois, qui comprenait la Gaule, l'Espagne et finalement la Grande-Bretagne.

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#EmpereurRomain #Postumus #Gallienus

[sillagen]

@serinruuya elhamdülillah yaşıyor 😽🙀

#postumu likedı kaç günden beri ortada yok

[wolframpant]

I, Claudius Episode 3 Waiting in the Wings

This is your doing, isn't it? Don't think I don't know. You think you're very clever. You think that by discrediting me, he'll bring your son back from Rhodes. You're so transparent. You want that precious son of yours to follow him when he dies so you can come into your own. But I have two sons. And they both come before yours. So make your mind up to it, Livia. When my father dies, you won't be wanted anymore. So take my advice and climb on the funeral pyre with him!

#bbc i claudius #i claudius #perioddramaedit #augustus #brian blessed #sian phillips #livia drusilla #tiberius #george baker #julia the elder #agrippa postumus #antonia minor #so many great scenes in this episode i had problems to choose just 10 gifs #julia's speech to livia is something #and the ending of this episode always gets me #postumus saying he was scared and calling his brother and mother #and camera panning to old claudius sitting at the same spot but 50 years later and alone #augur: claudius will be protector of rome #livilla: yikes hope i will be dead by than #antonia: go to your bedroom without dinner #and it all ends up happening #ancient rome

[just-late-roman-republic-things]

What really gets me about Augustus is that his best qualities were also his most horrifying qualities. He was devoted to his country’s stability and prosperity, and actively removed potential threats to it before they could become problems.

Even if one of those threats was his own grandson, Agrippa Postumus.

Seager makes a pretty strong case that Augustus not only planned Agrippa Postumus’ death over a year in advance, but set up a “dead man’s switch” to force an exclusive transition of power to Tiberius - even against Tiberius’ own wishes.

The reason for all this? Agrippa Postumus was a nasty guy who would’ve been disastrous as emperor, and could start a civil war if he’d challenged Tiberius for the throne. The easiest way to quietly dispose of him was to wait until the empire was distracted by Augustus’ own death. It was a logical, pragmatic, and utterly ruthless calculation.

(Robin Seager, Tiberius, pp.40-41)

#and it worked #augustus is scary not because he was mad but because he was completely sane #and every evil thing he did was a considered choice #octavian #tiberius #agrippa postumus #jlrrt reads #ancient rome