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ravensroundofrobins · 5 years
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Various RobRae Pairing Set Ups
(Submission & analysis by @bluboothalassophile, thank you blu!)
Alright, so I love JayRae, and we all know why I say it’s the best RobRae ship, however the other RobRae ships are just as complex and intriguing!
DickRae holds a depth and complexity which Dick’s relationships rarely have. Also they are, in the 03 cartoon, cemented in friendship, the chemistry is real in the cartoon. Especially with the mutual respect they hold for one another, and how they respect each other’s boundaries even when they have to push the boundaries. Dick’s lighthearted nature, and complex thinking is something which makes it interesting for Raven as she rarely has a love interest who engages her intellectually. Face it all the Robins can match her in intelligence, but Dick is the first shown doing it.
BabsRae, despite the difficulty of getting them to meet could be interesting. They are both calm, collected, highly intelligent, survivors, book lovers, seekers of knowledge. They have a lot of similarities in their base personalities which could be interesting. The basic love of knowledge and books would be a great bonding point for them, also laughing at all the stupid things the other Bats have done, repeatedly…
I’ll skip over JayRae, I’m sure I can forward you those posts as to why they are awesome.
CassRae, though they have never canonically met have a lot of similar base points in their backgrounds and personalities which would make it an interesting interaction. Platonically or romantically. Personality wise they are both so level and calm that they’d probably flow smoothly in a team up, but with the added of violent pasts which they both seek to over come… it’d be an interesting meeting of minds and personalities for them. 
TimRae now equals an interesting playing field. Tim rarely ever has anyone who matches him intellectually, he is frequently a lonely soul because he’s so far ahead in strategy that no one can keep up with him. Raven, when she was on Tim’s team, is portrayed in a similar manner which is how their kindred spirits became friends. their friendship is a startling positive influence on both characters and the connection they formed was great. Romantic or Platonic they are solid.
StephRae though they have never met, I foresee a lot of contrast leading to the best on both of them. Especially with Stephanie’s wildcard personality, and Raven’s calm. I don’t foresee a meeting of minds with the other Robins, but there is big potential here for a meeting of minds, rather a contrast of personalities which will also create a whirlwid of chaos for both girls in a team up or friendship bringing about the best in each other and probably some of the more fiery sides of Raven.
DukeRae… Now I have spent a lot of time with @raven-melanin building it up. They have a solid point of friendship and a good potential to be romantic. Theirs is a casual laid back love though, one founded through the mutual amusement and horror of being surrounded by deranged Bats with no concept of gravity or fear. They’d also probably love going to museums and learning, having brain dates so to speak.
HarperRae, okay, it’s a bisexual disaster. And truly not one to be great or terrible, they’d be an interesting contrast to each other. I think it’s rather like vinegar and oil honestly. But the Punk meet Goth could be an interesting contrast given how intent on being individual they are, and respecting these difference would be key between them. However, I foresee a lot of torrid misunderstandings and struggles for this pair.
DamiRae, much beloved by all, and could be misconceived as similar to the JayRae ship, but let us be clear they are a meeting of King and Queen, both raised and forged in their own personal hells, molded by manipulative parents who had no good intentions for them. It is a difficult love theirs will be, but one which would bring about a softer, less superior side of Damian, and one which would bring about a softer, more open Raven. They are great partners already, the romantic potential will be soft and sweet for them both.
CarrieRae, a smaller, less thought of ship, but so sweet in their innocence it would be a treat to watch. I think Carrie would bring about of freedom and carefree love that Raven doesn’t get to show frequently. While in return it would also make Carrie mature a bit, granted she’s usually pretty mature to begin with, but this is a way to truly grow up and be a match of minds here. While they’d bring out the best in each other’s personalities.
TerryRae, less thought of, but no less loved, would be a bit like a clash of lighting and fire they are trouble. They are the very definition of trouble! It will be a interesting clash of soul, interest, and personalities here. No, I don’t know if they will be great together, but there will be a wildness here which they bring about in each other. Which would be a startling contrast to the calm Raven brings about in so many of out Bats. But I think Terry would have a habit of bringing out Raven’s wildness and she would provoke his own Irish temper.
HelenaRae, now here lives a dark, gritty love which can be found in the misty and grim of Gotham. They would be a matching of wits, intelligence, and fires. Where Helena is brisk and quick like the winds, Raven is fluid like the water. They are a match of fluidity, and moving together, changing with the obstacles. They would be an adaptive and fluid team up even if they clash in fire.
Now, finally for the rarest ship of all… MattRae, to which I genuinely have no idea how they would be together. But if Matt’s anything like his many brothers and sisters we all know it’s going to be a hell of a ride. Especially with Matt’s Irish temper fueling the contrast of them and their personalities.
So, as we can see, so many Robins, one Raven, and so many ships, a lot of dynamics to explore and honestly, these loves will be the better interests for our highly intelligent, independent, free spirited, indifferent Raven.
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Top Fave Fandoms
@akai-vampire tagged me in one of these fun little tag games. Thanks darlin! <3 <3 <3 I appreciate the thought! 
Rules:  Name your top 10 fav character from 10 different fandoms (and tag 10 people).  
Most people are putting in .gifs for each fandom... but I wrote a ... well a paragraph about my experience in each fandom instead because I am feeling some deep sort of nostalgia these days and felt like reflecting... so its all under a read more tag if you are interested in my ramblings. 
In order of my own discovery, and not importance! 
Twilight: Team Edward. don’t @ me, it was my first fandom experience and I wrote SO MUCH fanfiction before I knew it was even a thing. I published it on DeviantART thinking I was so clever, and finding fanfic dot net was WILD. My interest in that fandom was immediately crushed dead the day after Breaking Dawn was officially released and I realized I had read better fanfiction then what cannon gave me. I never even saw the movies because my interest was just gone. *shrugs* But the re-emergence of Twilight recently is giving me life. 
Teen Titans: BBRae... Then RobRae.... then RaeX.... then StarRae... then CyRae... listen.... Raven deserves all the love and attention??? Also, I was in this fandom back when the original series was being released and was in complete denial when it got canceled. And for years I was just reading fanfiction that had been completely abandoned as fanfiction authors just kinda disappeared one by one? It was like, interacting of pieces of history left behind in a void. I was still deep in the Teen Titan fandom when Teen Titans GO! Got released. So during that very very long time of zero new content, I got to re-evaluate all of my fanfiction standards and completely read most every single Teen Titan fic ever written in my thirst for more. Suddenly ships didn’t matter as much to me, I’d take anything and everything. So when Teen Titans GO! Came out, I LIKED IT AND STILL DO. I still think the years and years and years of being in the Teen Titans fandom and being pretty damn isolated from social interaction kinda ruined me for fandoms that are still alive. Social fandom interaction??? hahahahaha, whats that??? 
Akagami no Shirayukihime: Obiyuki... this was a complete accident and I only fell into this fandom because my fave Teen Titans fandom author was writing for it, and I was reading the fanfiction without ever seeing the show, and like, kinda loved these characters a TON??? Oh no??? Real talk, I read most of the fanfiction published by the fandom before ever actually watching the actual tv show or reading the actual manga. But the fanfiction was so good and so engaging and I was learning all about these characters through this mystery game of putting all the parts together by all the different authors??? I loved learning about these characters through the people who love them the most, and it was magical. But then that became my dirty dark secret as I was suddenly welcomed into one of the most kindest and generous online communities I have ever met??? I have nothing but absolute love for the Obiyuki fandom and family. I had never experienced that kind of community before and looking back on it I still don’t think it was real, stuff like that you can only dream of sometimes. I sat down and actually read that manga and Fiona sat with me so that I watched the tv series so that I could properly engage with them because I liked the people so much. And when life hit me square in the face and I had a complete mental breakdown in grad school, and socializing with people online would give me complete anxiety attacks... and I had to step away from it. But I still mourn loosing that, and I keep trying every so often to see if I can interact again but I fear some chapters just close, and I hold the time I had with it, and the memories from then very lovingly. I will finish those fanfictions though. Even though I have no idea what has happen in the manga anymore I want to at least finish those stories like what they deserve. 
Miraculous Ladybug: Love Square. Sooo much love square. All the love square. Only the softest, gentlest, most innocent fluff to cope with the world and all my anxieties, and this stupid show gave me all of that. Plus, there was so much fanfiction to choose from that I was actually able to use tags and warnings to be able to navigate finding things that were safe and not feeling like my options were limited? It was so good to me. I also had never actually watched this show, and was only reading fanfiction of it for... honestly a full year. And when I did actually watch the first 2 seasons... I still didn’t watch the new episodes when they got released, because I much prefer watching the fandom loose their collective mind and getting to play the mystery game of what the hell happened in the show according to the little spoilers and the things people were screaming about. It was fun spectating, and putting it all together. Then reading the fix-it fanfiction and being like “whoa wait, hold up CANON DID WHAT???” ... Honestly I am pretty certain I still haven’t seen at least 10 episodes. But I know everything that happened now! Have I mentioned that I have an insane amount of anxiety of actually watching tv shows on my own? I must have company or else it will never happen. Shout out to Fiona for sitting down and watching Ladybug episodes with me while I screamed into a pillow. And for the record, I did start writing a fanfiction for this one. But I learned my lesson and decided not to post anything until it was finished so I didn’t have to live with the guilt of yet another unfinished story to my name. It was a little mermaid AU, and Adrien is the mermaid princess obviously, while Marinette is a badass pirate. It was fun to outline and write like, 3 chapters but i doubt I will ever actually finish it. 
Greek Mythology: Hades/Persephone. Yoooo this is my current thing. I am living for the walking contradiction of the powerful stern Lord of the Underworld falling for a little tiny goddess of Spring... and then finding out the little tiny ray of sunshine is really a complete force of nature to be reckoned with and he just crowned her Queen of the Dead. Beautiful. Poetry. *chefs kiss*  Also. I DON”T HAVE TO WATCH ANYTHING. AND ALSO. ITS AN ANCIENT STORY SO LIKE, NO SPOILERS TO NAVIGATE. lol. But honestly this is just a re-awakening of little middle school Becca who was obsessed with the Odyssey and was learning how to throw pottery so that she could actually date her pots, to help out the archaeologists in the future. (honest to god, that one of my main motivations as a little 6th grader making her first pots on wheel) And she was making these super shitty small greek pots and giving them to her English teacher because her English teacher loved the Odessey too. And then Greece had a complete economic collapse and crushed all of baby-Becca’s dreams to get to travel to Greece and see the greek pottery. And she delt with that heartbreak by pretending it didn’t matter and went and found other cool pottery to fall in love with instead. But now its back with a vengeance and once again Becca’s plans to go to Greece got destroyed by yet another economic collapse but this one is just Pandemic style. I am going to get to Greece so help me gods.  And yes, I have written fanficiton for this one too, and its honestly like, pretty fleshed out and written down heavily in my notes. I just have to like, type it all out and polish it. But, we will see. I am not allowed to have nice things until I finish the stories that are already posted. :[ 
Hadestown: Hades and Persephone, love that made the world go round. This gets its own bullet because its a different category because its a Musical even if its also a Greek Myth. And talk about reading all the fanfiction before seeing the source material. But isn’t that the case with most Broadway musicals? LOL. But its okay, I actually went and SAW the musical for this one, and once again, Fiona joined me. I’m starting to wonder if my Fiona is just my fandom anxiety buddy. Also shout out to the Rona for canceling my plans to see it again, not once, but twice now. (I have to go back because I didn’t get to see Amber Gray perform the first time, and hello I am obsessed with Persephone she is my favorite and I really really really just need to hear Amber growl in person okay???) I do have nightmares that she has left the show for good and I will never see her perform Persephone. Like legitimately have had that nightmare multiple times this week. I am just recently trying to navigate the Hadestown fandom on tumblr and still fumbling around with that. No fanfiction for this one yet, but I am making fan-pottery so like. That counts. 
Aaaaand you only get 6 fandoms because these are the only 6 that truly matter. Anything else I have been interested in has only been a passing fancy and never one of the true hyperfixations. Also if you got this far and actually read everything, well done, I am impressed. Thanks for taking interest in my ramblings.  <3 
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SALTY ASKS uhhh, 4 8 15 16 & 23?
Thank you, Randy! 
4. Do you have a NoTP in your fandom? Are they a popular OTP? 
- Keep any and all romantic BB/Rae away from me. I don’t care what version, what AU, what rationale, I just don’t like their dynamic. I see absolutely NO romantic potential there. (I have seen.... two stories, in the entire history of Me Reading Fanfiction, wherein they were in-character, developed, and actually okay together. And one of those was my very favorite Raven RPer.) But the vast majority of the fanbase? Yuck. One or both are always out-of-character. Things are taken out of context. The foundation for their relationship seems to be whipped up from nothing. Canonically, they... literally mocked each other in the cartoon, barely even spoke to each other in the original comics, only had a relationship in recent comics when the writers had them Very Out of Character (or randomly got smacked back together, esp. in the end of TT v3? why even bother???)... It’s just, a really bad ship all around. I will unfollow people for not tagging it, it’s that bad. Bro-ship between them is on thin fucking ice.
- And then there’s... t/endershipping. (In Yugioh-- Ryou and Yami Bakura.) Oh gods. This one’s worse. Because it is legitimately an abusive dynamic. I mean, bullying, forcing someone to go against his wishes, threatening his friends, twisting selfish actions to say they were selfless, literally injuring him to use his injury as blackmail, not to mention inuring him in the throes of will-battle, and then there’s the literal spiritual possession thing. You know, “forces your will/consciousness to fuck off so I can do whatever I want in disguise as you” kind of dynamic? What the Fuck? There’s no trust, no respect, literally NOTHING to build ANY kind of POSITIVE relationship on, and all the TRAUMA that spirit put Ryou through is absolutely NOT the kind of thing that should make ANYONE fall in love?! I genuinely WORRY for the people who see what the spirit of the ring did to him, and think “they’d be cute together”. Gods. Gods!
(I’m also hugely squicked out by memory/shipping, Ryou+Aigami, because? What? The fuck? Did you not SEE what he DID to him?! FUCKING NO?? But luckily the t|endershippers tend to be the memory/shippers too, so they’re fairly easily blocked.)
- I also have jas|pis blacklisted because Canonical Abusive Relationships are Not Dynamics I Enjoy At All, thank you. Especially not when their conversations sound like something right out of the things I witnessed in my mother’s own life. (I have no idea how popular it is because I’ve been blacklisting and blocking it since the moment I found out it exists.)
- Also: It’s not at all popular and not something I see often, but: I’m just squicked in general by terra\ven, because while I can see how a thing might be developed, I’m not the kind of person who can look at their Canon History and Interactions and think, “How romantic!” Bad communication, festering hatred, picking at each others’ weaknesses, mutual toxicity, and attempted murder don’t make a good backdrop for a relationship. Yikes.
8. Have you received anon hate? What about?
Kind...of? I’ve gotten asks hating on blog appearances, fandom opinions, and General Negativity, but nothing hating on me as a person.
The headcanon blog I help moderate got an ask once that could’ve started a shipping war (basically like, “How can people possibly ship RobRae?”), but I like to think I handled it well because I redirected that before it could explode.
Honestly, most of my anon hate came from fanfic.net reviews back in the “mary-sue” witch-hunt days. (The funny thing was, at the time I didn’t even know what that accusation meant. 8P )
15.  Unpopular opinion about the manga/show?
I liked the Yugioh manga better in black/white than in color! (The! big! mystery! about! Ryou’s! eyes!! continues!! to stump!!! and frustrate me!!!!! For context: this one character has had his eyes colored brown, green, blue, lavender, gray, black, dark purple, magenta, red, and seafoam green! [x] What the HELL color are his EYES.) 
And for the record, in the advance copy of the “Games” graphic novel my dad gave me, there were Certain Pages still in either ink-work or black/white coloring that I really liked more than the final product. That book is colored GORGEOUSLY, don’t get me wrong! But the pure linework shows a lot more of the “line of motion” and TEXTURE details that my non-visual brain can Grasp And Parse and Feel Things About much moreso than a colored page.
Also: Raven is a big softie deep down inside. Comic, cartoon, you name it. I don’t know why this is so controversial because it’s Genuinely Canon as Hell, but even some canonical writers miss out on this, and it’s like? guys have you READ a Raven comic???
16. If you could change anything in the show, what would you change?
RYOU BAKURA WOULD BE MORE THAN A GODDAMN PLOT DEVICE. As mentioned in the Other Answered Ask, this drives me to absolute annoyance and disappointment and disdain. (This is specifically directed at the “show”, of course. The manga [and even season 0!] did a much better job of, you know... remembering that he is also a human being and not just a shell that has a conveniently-possessed antagonist necklace.) 
It’s just the treatment of certain characters for me, I guess. I’m really bad at looking at a canon and going “This Event Would Be Different” otherwise. Especially when I’m emotionally attached to the Canon Events...
Except “Titans”. That fucking stunt they pulled with Arella, one of the most strong-willed, independent, perseverant, traumatized female characters to ever rise fully above her past and find her own way in the worlds-- in MULTIPLE worlds!-- and they made her the lackey of the monster she has always defied. It STILL pisses me off. (There are other things I’d change about Titans-- many others. But that AU is so far off the mark that it would take a collegiate-length essay to “change” it just right.)
23.  Unpopular character you love?
Jericho! Arella! Malachite! Rorek! 
Joey is such a sweetheart and has such a unique and versatile power. Arella is such an inspiration and proves time and time again that she’s stronger than her trauma. Malachite just had so much POTENTIAL as her own character and I wish we had seen more of her as an individual. And Rorek of course? God those eyes and that hair trigger the demigray. (And I headcanon hardcore that Malchior used Rorek as a template for how he looked, sounded, and acted, and of course Rorek wrote the book, and I fell as hard for Malchior as Raven did. So like.... kind of a scapegoat to redirect that love, but it makes me happy, okay.)
And Mismagius, which I don’t understand because surely I’m NOT the only strategically-minded lover of the Ghost type? And I’m certainly not the only witch who practices pop culture magic with Pokemon (and Mismagius is literally based on a witch and called “the magical pokemon”)? But hey, loving the underdog has been my lifelong specialty. 8F
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ravensroundofrobins · 5 years
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Not sure exactly how I ended up here, I was never a RobRae shipper AT ALL! I always thought of them as siblings in the original Teen Titans show. I was more into BbRae or any Rae ship besides RobRae, that all changed when I happened to stumble upon the work of a certain lemon queen. Now thanks to her I have a deep obsession for anything JayRae and RedRae
I think anyone who’s spent any amount of time in the TT03 fandom knows who you’re *ahem* referring to haha. But we’re glad to have you aboard! Now, feel free to *Bill Nye voice* Consider The Following Ships! lmao (but srsly, thanks! hope you find some more ships to love here!)
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ravensroundofrobins · 5 years
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Hiya, of course robrae aka dickrae was the first for me based on teen titan 03 show. After my brother shows justice league vs teen titan, i'm now in the pit of DamiRae hell. Lol
*flicks lights off & on* welcome to hell!!!
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ravensroundofrobins · 5 years
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cuz im ridiculous ive been a dick/raven fan for now...yikes, almost 20 years. i feel old. raven ships that involve people from the batfam are some of my faves, i just think shed fit in really well with their aesthetics lol ANYWAY i came here to say, idk how you feel about Teen Titans Go!, but theres an episode called "The Best Robin" where raven interacts with tim, carrie, aaand i think another version of dick? anyway its a great ep
carro u are so valid and i love and appreciate u so damn much ok? okBELIEVE IT or not, i did watch the first? season and a half maybe? of TTG! oof, i tried to Stan it for the longest time too. but it was a weird time for me, as a fan and as person. but that ep? god, TTG in general? when they do cameos & In-jokes, they do them VERY well. and i certainly remember that ep having me in stitches. maybe i should hunt it down for nostalgia’s sakeAs far as Raven fitting the Batfam Aesthetics, tbh in an Ideal DCU, she’d Already Be Part of the Fam ala, Steph Brown, ofc! (with bruce “you don’t even live here, but i guess ur kind of my kid now” wayne just.. Accepting her Presence) But alas. we must stick to various AUs and ships until such a day arrives. (& tyvm for reaching out & signal boosting this, dude. seriously. i cant *prayer hands emojis*)
(I’m collecting a bit of our fandom history & doing an Interest Check on the different robrae ships, so feel more than free to reblog this post to add your story, or send it in to the ask box!)
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ravensroundofrobins · 5 years
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Ola~~~ Teen titan 03 has bought me Robrae and as i research turn out yo be Dick Grayson and so DickRae is my first. Sooner or later, Dc keep the robrae ship drown and along with huge number of bbrae, eventually makes me leave the fandom. As my sibling introduce son of batman, saying Damian Wayne is Batman son, i was like really? Then after that he shows, Justice league vs teen titan, i was screaming when they show raven on dc title and after a few scene,guess what? Damirae happen. 😆😆😆
I had no idea you used to be an OG RR shipper!! also, ur works for damirae have been TOP NOTCH, chrom!! thanks for sharing, dude!
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ravensroundofrobins · 5 years
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Hello, obviously I’m going to say JayRae is the best RobRae ship! But they all hold potential...
w- would you like to expand on that blu?
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ravensroundofrobins · 5 years
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I started out with DickRae because the 03 cartoon was my childhood, got shoved into xrae (with Jason, obvs) hell thanks to fanfic authors really bringing their a-game, and then watched the 2016 movie and went head over heels for DamiRae. It was only once I started following DamiRae people that I got introduced to the rarer pairs, like timrae, Stephrae, and Cassrae. And I didn’t actually know about duke for a year or two after that.
c’est la vie, when it comes to these ships eh? (also I’m fkdsla;fkl yeah. Duke’s New, but he’s Great, and hopefully he’ll get more attention Soon I’m side-eyeing DC rn abt that Outsiders series that was supposed to be out by now hmm.)Thanks for sharing! 
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dickrae is my top to end all others. but you know me, throw me a ship and I'm more than likely bound to run with it. in all honesty, timrae holds a very special place in my heart and I'll forever hold it close.
thats valid af, rem. thank you
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I was first introduced to Robrae during the Teen Titans cartoon run in the 2000's i was never really a fan of robstar and just decided that robrae were a much better match (In my 8 year old mind it made sense) flash forward to Justice league vs teen titans I couldn't help but adore the DamiRae so I came to love that as well (In the DCEU i do like robstar considering it's written better) then thanks to Tumblr I also became enamoured with jasonrae tho my prefrence now is damirae I love all three
i’m glad to say you’re not alone, friend! :D thank you for sharing!!!
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ravensroundofrobins · 5 years
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Unlike most other Robrae fans, my first was not dickrae nor damirae. Somehow, it was babsrae. After beginning shipping babsrae, I next went to search for the other Raven/Bat ships and found damirae and dickrae which are my favorites along with babsrae. And an additional note, after merely three days you are already my favorite robrae blog.
anon u are the ONLY valid one here. (jk but ur gonna make me CRY) (also if u know abt any babsrae art/fic that I’m missing out on BLEASE hook me up bro)got BLESS u for sharing.
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ravensroundofrobins · 5 years
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Here’s a Fun Little Exercise I wanna try before we dive into Event Planning:
Feel free to reblog this or hit up the ask box, and let me know which RobRae or Batkid/Raven ship was your first, and how you heard about the other ships (or if this is your first time considering alternative RobRae ships, what you think of them so far!). Which ones are your favorites? Which one sounds the most interesting? Which Batkid do you think is Most Right for our favorite empath lol
*takes out some popcorn* let’s paint a picture of our fandom history together
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“Valentine Fandom Ask Meme”
Disclaimer: It’s a shipping meme, and I’m blunt and honest; there are going to be some anti-ship mentions here. NOTPs mentioned [vehemently] include BBRae, Ja//s//pis, and Terraven.
You have been warned.
Your favourite non-canon ship? ...mmmh, this depends: define "canon". ;}P Canon as in, not CANON-canon, but canon in my fanfictions?~ SECERTSHIPPING. Dove and Srentha are my forever favorite. Their relationship is incredible and they're genuinely a romantic inspiration to me. ...however... As for "not a canon romantic couple in the actual canon universe"? I have to say RobRae. I can't help it, it just... feels like if they canonically felt that way for each other, it would work. Really, really well.
Is there a ship you didn’t like at first but ultimately started shipping? ....Not that I can remember.......
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Name a popular ship you don’t get the appeal of. BBRae. Ever. At all. Never have. Probably never will. (People have... nice thoughts about them. In theory. But when things related to what they've thought happen in canon, it's.... either detrimentally badly done (re: comics), or it ENDS badly in the show. I just sense absolutely no romance about them.
What is your most fluffy + happy ship? .....SecretShipping... although I get a very intense case of the softer, quieter cousin to Warm+Fuzzies from my canonical OTP, JeriRae. Even when things are terrible and painful and destroying me (and then), their relationship is just... so powerful. (I always think about that scene where Something is Very Wrong with Raven, pre-Tarror-of-Trigon. and Joey knocks on her door. she tells him to go away-- then, realizes it's him.. and still tells him, not to come to her. Not to disturb her. And she ends up collapsing against the door, and you don't see it but it is HEAVILY implied that she's crying, and Joey's sitting on the other side, despite everything. And I just....................azar, it takes my breath away.
What is your most angsty ship? ...Well... See the above answer. JeriRae is angsty because of circumstance, more than the people themselves. In Arella's words (after Joe dies, I believe?), she said Raven could never have LET herself love him, "not then" (before Terror of Trigon). And that... my friends, is something you like to call "angst" and I like to call "too painfully fucking relateable". So the depth of personal rapport in the angst: That one. Buuut, there was this book series I liked for, well, the first three anyways, and a show made from it called Legend of the Seeker. The show made the ship far more palatable to me, Richard and Kahlan. (The books got waaay too sexual and FAR too repetitive with it after the fourth book. Just, ew.) But the show was always... encouraging. I liked their relationship and its endurance and complexities, a lot.
A non-canon ship that should be canon? ...I feel really weird about the thing that happened between Raven and Dick in the comics? Like... I'm not saying Dick SHOULD have loved her back. But there was set of issues where Raven was "in love with" Dick. And here's the thing: Kory steps in. Not in a "Get away from my man" sort of moment, but more like... "I don't think you love him romantically". And what bothers me about this is that... How would Starfire know? Starfire isn't in Raven's head. Yes, she's far more familiar with emotions than the girl whose only education on it was Never Ever Have Them. But... perspective, Kory. What if Ravne DID love him romantically? She KISSED him, for godsake. (Also, Wally and Raven. For the first few, dozen or so issues, anyways. We don't talk about Wally and Raven.)
Your oldest ship; the one you’ve shipped for the longest time? ......honestly, on a REAL level, it had to have been secretshipping. I didn't do the whole "shipper" internally, mindset... fandgasming... thing..... for RobStar, although I've always liked them as a couple. SecretShipping was the first one that introduced me to Feeling Feels for Their Relationship. (Of course, they're my own, so I'm not so sure if it counts. ;P But it was there.)
What ship represents the kind of relationship you’d love to have? JeriRae. Absolutely. And, well, secretshipping-- and lapidot, SORT of? (but the whole "healing from a terrible abusive situation" thing can be left at the door... problem is, that's like of like 95 of Lapis's angle in the 'ship. not to say I haven’t.... been where lapis is. it just hasn't been so... cut and dry for me...........)
Is there a ship that makes your skin crawl? bbraaaae. (Most of the time. Recently I've found... let's see, TWO authors that don't make it... completely and totally OOC and abhorrent to me. There were a couple of fanfictions I enjoyed because it was as subtle and just SLIGHTLY more successful than their interactions in canon, so it wasn't horribly misshapen. But even in the canonical comics, it was just... SO sloppily done. Clumsy and forced. My friend Teri over there is RPing the ship with depth and sincerity and development, not suddenly going "!! SHE KISS". Out of nowhere. Like.... ....???? johns, why. (well besides the fact that your favorite was beast boy and your wife's favorite was raven and you thought it'd be cute to shove them together because of your own relationship.)
What is a character you can only imagine in one particular ship? ...........this is........ hard. I'm not sure I have one. Cyborg, maybe? With Sara?
What is your favourite canon ship? JeriRae is absolutely my canonical OTP, and it always has been, and I think it will be very hard for anything to usurp it as my Genuine Sincerest Favorite Ship.
Name a ship that deserved more content. JERICHO. AND. RAVEN. HOLYGOD ^ Now, ^^^this^^^ reaction is mainly @ the fandom? But canonically.... Marv Wolfman once said that his singular regret in his entire history of writing comic books was killing off Joey Wilson. (and no small wonder because he didn't deserve it and it didn't add to the story where like seven other people died anyways, and it wasn't fair, it wasn't what he deserved, it wasn't... what anyone wanted to see.) Point is, their relationship never, really... had a CHANCE to go anywhere. It was well established, I think-- as well as you can canonically, blatantly establish someone who doesn't talk about her feelings and someone else who can't speak his. But it was there. It was in interviews. And it was... absolutely gorgeous, in its subtlety, gentleness, and development. But.... ahhhh, it was forcedly over far, far too soon.... damn you, 90's gimmicks.
Is there a ship you feel gets undeserved hate in fandom? ......RobRae? Like... I get that people don’t' have to agree with things. But, like: some of the things people SAY. (And the hypocrisy; so many of their arguments are ironically exactly what could be turned right about to THEIR ships!) Oh, and also Lapidot.
What is the first ship you had? ...see answer, re: Oldest Ship.
Is there a ship that made you realise something about yourself? .....oh. Not... that I can remember.... (Characters, moments........ that fucking thing with Malchior; I just-- okay. Well. A lot of the things he said really RESONATED with me, and I still recant some of them like mantras, because they're things I genuinely NEEDED to hear, in all my struggles and isolation. Things that made me think, for once: Isn't it OKAY to be a little darker? Is it, then, not WRONG to be misunderstood? look, people, I relate to raven on levels no human being should ever be allowed to relate to a fictional half-demon. But what he said CHANGED my outlook, and that was something I needed. Problem is: If you ship Raven and Malchior after everything he did to her, there will be no mercy in my verbal assault of your understanding of love and betrayal.)
Is there a type of ship you always go for? ...Emotional rapport, above all else. I'm demi-gray sexual and romantic; I can't even feel any sort of romantic attraction between others, or see any evidence of it existing, without emotional closeness. The ships that mean the most to me, are often the ships with someone I relate to most, and their partner being someone that treats them well. Raven and Jericho, someone who's quiet and reticent and someone who's expressive and forcedly silent but able to say so much in action. Both so strong, so vulnerable. It's a beautiful dynamic. And never once is the whole "oh, your father's evil too? Hey I know that feel" thing played as a REASON for them to have built this relationship. And then we have Lapidot, where the shift in dynamics may have been a bit meddled in by Steven, but even so, we see Lapis is healing from this deep trauma, and Peridot is protecting her in such little, subtle ways. They're working together to create something they both want.
Is there a ship the writers have ruined for you? If it can mean a ship I already so strongly opposed but they ONLY made it WORSE, then yes, BBRae. All the way.
Is there a ship the fandom has ruined for you? Well, I don't go into the Lapidot tags.... and it's safe to say I'm minorly disappointed in the lack of JeriRae art and stories and such.
Have you ever created fan created content for a ship? SecretShipping. I mean, I write the damn things. /X3 But also pictures, moments, playlists... you know. I'M a legit fan of my babies, too... 8P
Favourite thing you’ve ever created for a ship? Does Leyla count? ;D (she's their daughter.)
Is there a ship you’ll never admit you have? ....If I did have such a ship, it wouldn't be written on this post.
Have you ever started shipping a ship because of the fans? Lapidot was introduced to me through fanfics, and I realized: ohyes if they are both stuck on Earth, how interesting would it be to see them interacting?
What is one scene you want to see happen for all your ships? ...Okay, okay, okay okay okay. I don’t do the whole "day-dreaming fluffly romantic" thing. But I have...
Secrestipping: I have already seen it. (Dove allowing her self to be HONEST towards her conflict with him, and instead of running away from it, accepting it, allowing herself to love him, and taking a stand against everything she doesn’t want, and what he needs to know. Letting him IN!
For JeriRae? I cannot tell you how much I cherish those little moments. I don't know what I would have WANTED to happen with them..... but wouldn't it be cool to have seen Arella and Joey interact?
Lapidot: I don't even know I just want to know how they're doing with the whole "No More Homeworld for Us" thing.
I there a ship you wish you didn’t know existed? bb....r.ae..... and, uhh. lapis and jasper. how the FUCK do you ship an ABUSIVE relationship like that with GLEE? (I'm not talking, "explore the dynamics of an abusive relationship in the way that psychologically-inclined authors do", I'm talking, "actually think that work wELL together".)
And THEN there's Terra and Raven. Just. Don't even. Fucking. It's blacklisted, get it out of my face, don't so much as MENTION it near me, I don't understand how ANYONE Can ship them and MEAN it; it's fucking PAINFUL. You SAW how they spat acid at each other and just fucking... ? ?? ????? HOW IS THAT ROMANTIC IN THE *SLIGHTEST*. (Terra and Raven is a much more deeply-set viscerally-responsive NoTP to me than BBRae ever was. THAT, my friends, canonically anyways? THAT is entirely abusive.)
Name a ship that ended like you wanted it to. SecretShipping... and, I had no idea I needed it until I saw it happening, Leyla and Toby in their QPR-- queer PLATONIC relationship! What a weird situation that was; I had no idea if they were romantic or what, but it was obviously something deep and special. but I just. Found out about QPRs and suddenly-- OH. That's what Leyla and Toby are!!!
Name a ship that deserved better in the end. JeriRae.
Is there a character you have several ships for? ...nnnot that I'm aware of? I like multiple ships with Lapis honestly, but only just slightly, and in the "that's an interesting dynamic but I don't see them working out romantically" sort of way.
What is the ship you ignore 98% of canon for? ...b...b.....ra...e..... (The comic canon. I don’t have to ignore much honestly; it was in, like, seven issues, total, in the entire history of their team. but canonically as a ship? Gods I'm happiest when it forget that ever happened)
Is there a ship you like but you dislike the fandom? The fandom as in the franchise it's from, or The Fandom, as in the people shipping it? Or the fandom OF the franchise? Because Lapidot and Steven Universe is borderline for me. (I prefer my quiet, maybe-involving-friends shipping to the mob mentality this fandom seems to love.)
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