#she doesn't know how to end a conversation and had to suffer thru it or signal the brothers to save her from Interaction lol

[spotaus]

*It seems you managed to stumble across a unique trio...

Decided to do a silly lil doodle of my favorite Dopple-trio! :D on the surface I feel like this'd be a daily occurrence. Kale is the most normal of the 3 of them, but I wanted to draw her and Paps having a cute lil conversation. (More ideas below the cut!!!)

Pretender regularly interacts with humans (his disguise slowly recovers, and he continues to mostly abstain from his old habits) and usually appears as "human" as long as he's out. Sometimes in public I feel like ppl would be willing to talk to him, and he's always quick to make it clear that to get to his family people would have to get past him. (Also I think in their neighborhood/town everyone gets increasingly confused because he regularly goes, "Yeah, that's my Kid" some days abd other days he's like, "That's my little sibling" and it's just that he's her guardian and the terms are kinda interchangeable because it's easier to use them than explain the whole situation lol)

Pretender also has no sense of fashion. He's always so close to a neat outfit then takes the wrong turn before he exits his closet lol.

Paps stays in skeleton form (at least for the first few years) even tho it's dangerous, because his human disguise is awful and makes K uncomfortable. Instead he trains genuinely with Undyne and Tender to properly figure out a human shape over about 4 years. Eventually he does have a human disguise, but he's contented in his monster form too.

K I can't say a lot for (beloved @oodlesndoodles is who designed/owns her!) But I'm pretty certain that she'd probably still wear her one monster-style outfit sometimes if only to show her solidarity with her family, or just to mess with people on the streets 🙏

Also:

I love the idea that someone talking to them would take in this info and be like ???????

Last Notes: Human!Pretender is one of my favorite blorbos ever to doodle! His hair texture is probably the most satisfying thing ever! Paps keeps miraculously looking good for this AU??? I've never been able to draw Papyrus before??? Idk what changed, but I love him! And KALE! K my beloved I have struggled so hard to doodle her well and usually fail but I think I did it!!! I love her sm...

#utmv #oc #utmv sans #utmv art #utmv oc #my art #utmv au #doppletale #dopple!paps #dopple!kindness #dopple!sans #pretender sans #kale estrella #kale #I honestly to the gods believe that none of these 3 can manage a normal conversation for over 4 minutes max #Chikity Tender can hold a conversation well but unsettles people w/ his eye-contact and grin #Paps is just notoriously over-excitable and refers to everyone he meets as Human [Insert Name] unless it's Kale (she's K/Kale to him) #and K I think could be normal for a while but tends to retreat if things get even a bit out of her comfort-zone and because she's so “kind” #she doesn't know how to end a conversation and had to suffer thru it or signal the brothers to save her from Interaction lol #hi guys can u tell I love them??? #also I was listening to 5 hours worth of Unsolved Mysteries and trueHorror Stories while drawing this cute lil thing #it had the uhhh opposite affect. i meant to draw Toriel lore when ahe lures kids to Home... I got distracted #spot q

[bthump]

I have always seen both Guts and Griffith as misogynistic, mostly because of their relationship and treatment with Casca. But recently I had a conversation with a friend who just read the golden age arc and they didn’t agree entirely at least on Griffith being misogynistic.

They made me give it a think… I told them that for me the eclipse r*pe scene was unnecessarily explicit, wrong framed, and could have been replaced with anything else. And even if they agreed on the first takes, they confessed me that “the r*pe scene was the perfect and most bizarre posible ending for the eclipse.” And the argument was that, because Griffith had suffered sexual abuse (first Genon and then his torturer), maybe that was his picture of the cruelest thing one could do to another, so he decided to act that way with someone Guts loved because he wanted to hurt him, as if saying “I’ll show you how cruel can I be.” As a response to Guts ambiguous answer when Griffith asked him if he thought of him as a bad person.

I’d like to know your thoughts on this 😩

I'm torn on this tbh.

Like, Femto raping Casca to prove how cruel he has the capacity to be does make sense to me as a reading because the "do you think I'm cruel" scene was very prominent and the lead up to the sacrifice called back to it, and the sacrifice was framed in part as Griffith embracing his capacity to be a monster.

But something I often say about the Eclipse rape is that it feels very thematically appropriate pretty much solely because so much of Berserk revolves around rape. But the actual depiction in the scene itself doesn't capitalize on any of those already-existing story threads. Guts doesn't indicate any personal fear or reminders of his own trauma, we're not given Casca's perspective at all so all we get from her end is that she has an orgasm and feels bad about it on Guts' behalf, aka classic cuckold kink, and Femto also gives us nothing except a suggestive stare.

Now thematically I do think it's appropriate that Femto's defining act is rape, and if it had been depicted differently, and the story given a different focus (other than, yk, Guts' manpain and emasculation thru Casca's orgasm, and Casca's removal from the story, and Griffith's narrative never referring to it again lol) I think it could've worked as a cumulation of the Golden Age, especially as a reflection of Guts' own rape trauma, because Guts' trauma is essentially the thematic tie between rape and monsers.

Guts is driven to fight monsters because of his rape trauma. The original fear that drives Guts and which is reflected in subsequent confrontations with monsters is Donovan. And this also works from Casca's and Griffith's perspectives as well, thanks to being strongly and more bluntly established through Guts - with Griffith we have Gennon and the torturer, and with Casca we have the nobleman and Adon.

So it does make thematic sense to demonstrate Femto's monstrosity through rape specifically, and yeah Griffith's own experiences could also be extrapolated to inform his decision from a character perspective, ie it's also his experience with "monsters."

But again, it's so badly done lol, it completely drops all those balls as far as I'm concerned, just absolutely trips over its own feet at the finish line. Plus if that was meant to be Griffith/Femto’s motivation, you’d think his past victimization wouldn’t be so glossed over compared to Guts’ and Casca’s and random villagers’ sexual victimization. Griffith’s rape trauma is only ever implied, and while I think it’s implied effectively in a way that informs much of his character, if you’re going to make it his motivation for the defining act of villainy in the story, it’s a little weak lol.

And I don't think it's necessary. It fits, but rape isn't the only thing that defines a monster in Berserk. Literal Berserk monsters have bloodlust, they're prejudiced, they're vengeful, they treat humans as commodities in ways other than sexual, they corrupt others, etc. Figurative human monsters usually default to rape, but you also have sheer power in Boscogne, lashing out in defense of privilege in Julius, revenge in the queen, revenge/blind bloodlust in Guts... like, there are options that would’ve also been thematically resonant imo.

Part of the problem with using rape here as well is that as the story continues it becomes a whole lot less prominent as a theme lol, and it ends up sticking out like a sore thumb. Like, even if it theoretically works as a cap to the Golden Age, does it still work as the origin story of the much tamer Millenium Falcon arc?

Oh also for the record wrt Guts and Griffith being misogynistic, I agree with you. I think they both are sexist to some degree, purposefully so - Guts has his chauvinistic remarks to Casca in the early Golden Age, Griffith has his ordering Casca to warm Guts - and accidentally as a result of the author’s own biases, most likely - eg Guts grabbing Casca’s tit to halt an argument in a cutesy scene after they fuck, Griffith’s bodice-ripper-y sex scene with Charlotte. I’m not sure where either assault scene falls here, whether they’re intended to be purposeful expressions of the characters’ misogyny or just dark and violent and disturbing but ultimately unrelated to sexism from a character standpoint, but yeah they’re not great either lol, and if you take them seriously rather than dismissing them as bad writing they’re pretty dark reflections of the characters.

Anyway yeah, that’s some of my thoughts on it at least. Thanks for the ask!

#ask #stillapieceofgarbage2006 #a #b #theme: critique #scene: eclipse rape #character: griffith #theme: inner monster #theme: trauma #i have a few eclipse rape related posts so i'm getting them all out there at once tonight

[eliias-bouchard]

4, 7 or 38 for any of ur RW ocs 👀👀 and if u want to, A >:3

How easy is it to earn their trust?

ill just answer for the equinox local group, if i went thru all my ocs we'd be here forever lol

no peaceful ending - precollapse decently easy. post collapse basically impossible unless she knew you before

fibres of silence - not necessarily difficult, but they have a good sense for bullshit

glowing wind between speckled trees - not easy or difficult. altho she's not very social (doesnt talk one on one very often) so there's not a huge amount of opportunities to gain her trust

dappled light over decaying leaves - same as w/ wind

hallows of fate, damned - im honestly not sure he lets himself trust anyone (because of his whole religious guilt thing).

awakening winter - if you work with him on the solution he'll trust you, but its easy to break it, especially if he suspects you're going to try and stop him

What triggers nostalgia for them, most often? Do they enjoy that feeling?

for all of them i'd say anything that relates to when the ancients were alive.

pre-collapse peace is probably indifferent to nostalgia, post-collapse she despises it (because she hates the ancients).

silence probably also dislikes the ancients, so similarly dislikes nostalgia.

wind doesn't like nostalgia, because she prefered it when the ancients were alive, and wishes they were still around.

light enjoys nostalgia. i think she's probably quite interested in ancient culture, so being nostalgic is fun.

fate absolutely doesn't like nostalgia. it triggers her guilt to hell and back, being a reminder of how she failed her citizens.

winter doesn't care for nostalgia. dwelling on his creators is a useless distraction from finding the solution.

What memory do they revisit the most often?

pre-collapse peace, she probably thinks about talking to wind and light. i dont know if they got together but if they did, that's what she'd think about.

post collapse peace would spend a lot of time going over her interactions with winter to try and figure out the tipping point, but i think she thinks about talking to her citizens in the void a lot. the way they were so happy, so calm, and she and her kind were made just to suffer.

silence - their last conversation with peace before she shut off communications. wishing they knew what to say to get her to stop.

wind - probably any conversation she had with her citizens about tea, or overseer footage of peace's can collapsing.

light - probably also overseer footage of peace's can collapsing.

fate - its mistake. trying to find any possible way he could've stopped it, or some days trying to rationalise away any way it could be anything but his fault.

winter - peace's final communication with him. she travelled to the local communications array (which had survived her collapse) and sent a message to him, that she was coming. he's unconcerned, mainly because worrying about it would get in the way of finding the solution before peace shows up to destroy him.

a) Why are you excited about this character?

i like all the angst potential. i also like playing around with different opinions of the solution, which is really fun and has ended up being basically the main thing with this group

(ask game here)

#answered asks #i swear i had a mutuals tag lying around here somewhere #my rw ocs #equinox local group #awakening winter #hallows of fate damned #glowing wind between speckled trees #dappled light over decaying leaves #fibres of silence #no peaceful ending

[sbnkalny]

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