#shikama doji

[floareadeaur]

Hello!I really love your analyses (I am trying to read them all)and having personally returned to the fandom after 4 years it feels like I discovered a hidden gem.

Since my favourite characters are all vampires and since Ferid is also one I would like to ask you what do you think the ending of the vampire race will be like?I mean with the way the story is going it seems that in the end all the vampires are sadly going to die either from the resurrection or with Saito finding a way for them to die as he promised.I would like it if they somehow get turned back into humans and somehow live a peaceful life but it seems highly unlikely 😔.I love Kagami for creating such a complex and deep story but since Horn and Chess appeared there is a high chance that Lacus and Rene will also and seeing my boy Lacus finally appear after 6 years ( his last appearance in the manga was in 2018 if I am not mistaken) to just die hurts 😭.

(I know this is a pretty complex ask and you are not obligated to answer it if it's too much also I don't know if you have answered this already so if you did I am sorry)

Hello!

Please, do not worry about the complexity of the question.

It is true, this ask is one that requires more thought, but it is a pertinent one that deserves attention.

"Hidden gem", this is perhaps the nicest compliment I received here. Thank you so much!

I am really glad that my analysis is helpful and enlightening to this fascinating story. I will try to attach all my analysis in the masterlist to make it easier to read. (I kind of lost track of them and the analysis masterlist does not have them all. Sorry for that. )

Now about your question.

The answer is a complex one, and I really do not think I can offer anything with certainty.

Thus, I will rather discuss the existing possibilities and any assumptions I have.

In the end, we will see what happens in the manga further. What is certain is that I am sure that the ending will be extraordinary and full of meaning, commensurate with this special story, and I support the author whatever he chooses next.

Now I will present my ideas.

In the OnS world, there is a lot of emphasis on the concept of "soul". How the whole universe is created as a "prison" for this soul.

Infinite reincarnation, without the possibility of an end or a meaningful destination for the soul. This is how human life works here, in a continuous vicious circle.

To me, vampirism is simply another form of reincarnation. The same impossibility of freeing the soul, the same immortal "life", the same lack of meaning for the soul, only now in one body and at the cost of altering the memories and personality of the human souls trapped in this form of curse.

Moreover, vampire souls, as I said, do not have the possibility to die. They can only pass into another "form", as demons. So it is about human persons cursed with vampirism, which in the end can only become demons. Still a "circle" type trajectory, without escape.

That is why, I think, that just as humanity needs a new "restart", a release from infinite reincarnations (which maybe the resurrection will do), the souls of vampires need a form of release, of rest.

How will this happen?

Honestly, I do not know. Vampire souls are human, that much is clear. No matter what form they exist in: mortal human body, immortal vampiric body, demonic entity, it is all about human souls in different forms.

And right now there is no Heaven for these human souls, under any form, you know?

From here we can draw the conclusion, that maybe if Sika's suffering will find a solution, and if Guren will succeed in the resurrection, the laws of the OnS world will change and the possibility of a Heaven for all these souls will appear?

But the answer is, frankly, a complicated one. Because it is not just one way, I think.

For example, the vampires transformed by Sika Madu are basically the reincarnations of his angels. And Sika Madu wants to go back to Heaven with them, from whence they fell. So maybe these vampires will return to this Heaven in the end? As angels again, or as human souls?

But there are many other vampires who are not reincarnations of those angels, like Ferid, Crowley, Basteya, Lacus, René, Chess, Horn and the rest of the vampire race. These were just people. So what will be their ending?

And there is also something else. We are talking about the resurrection, which involved the death of every vampire, either for the resurrection of humanity or Mikaela.

But from what we have seen recently, these vampires are not much in the form of "vampires" anymore. Hundreds of them have been ingested by Ferid and their souls are in a state of metamorphosis to the demon form in Ferid's inner dimension.

Here comes a guess of mine.

Mahiru Hiiragi, before becoming a demon, said something, "Next time I am reborn I want to be an ordinary girl."

I think these words of hers should be taken more seriously, considering that since the age of 11 she has had visions and nightmares including about the Apocalypse. Perhaps she knew that there was a possibility that human souls who had reached the demon state would be reborn as humans someday. Perhaps this is a consequence of the resurrection Guren is currently working on.

Mostly, I do not think Ferid is working against Guren's plan by his current actions. Given that Guren's plan directly fights against Sika Madu's purpose, and that Ferid is involved in this plan willingly, I strongly believe that the "resurrection of mankind" means the restoration of the laws of this universe as well. That is, including what Ferid wants since he was 16, "breaking that circle", of meaningless reincarnation, changing the broken laws of the world.

Especially, Ferid did not say that he does not want anyone to ever be born again, but that he wants no one to ever be reborn in that " putrid " world. In that world of broken laws, which holds souls meaninglessly captive in infinite reincarnations.

Birth and rebirth are two different things. Or resurrection versus rebirth.

Rebirth drags the soul into a new life even if that soul has already lived a life. Rebirth leaves no room for rest.

Resurrection restores a life ruined by something, repairs it and perhaps gives it another meaning.

And if new laws are established for the universe, if the problem of infinite reincarnation in this hellish world is solved and Heaven is opened for human souls, maybe one good life will be given to resurrected human souls?

A life with meaning, at the end of which the soul has a Heaven where it can go.

And perhaps, the souls of vampires ingested by Ferid and turned into demons, as Mahiru Hiiragi implied, can "reincarnate" again as humans, now in a world that offers only one good and meaningful life for each soul, followed of the possibility of entering Heaven.

Thus, in this version, Ferid can be considered to represent the "gateway" through which vampire souls can get a chance to later regain their humanity.

And in the end, maybe the only vampire to die will be Ferid.

I think all vampires except him have had someone who loved them. Look at Horn and Chess, who are good friends in my view, or Lacus and René. Or Crowley with his comrades, with the friends he must have had in his previous life as Ferid's older brother.

All of them had love in their lives, people who loved them. And maybe that is why they need a new good life with these beloved people.

And Ferid, truly unloved by anyone, is the "sacrificial lamb", no matter how surprising it seems.

Basically, his greatest frustration is the rotten way his world works, its meaningless laws, the creation out of darkness by a corrupt God. And perhaps his happy ending is to die, leaving behind through his actions a world of meaning, a world born of love, something he always longed for but could not have.

There is a lot to say in this hypothesis, but what I am pointing out is that I am sure that Ferid will have a direct confrontation with Sika Madu, and more than anything, a discussion with this god of his, in which he will again demand the reason why everything is like that.

If you remember chapter 76 where Ferid asked Sika why the world is like this.

I think Sika might be willing to give Ferid an answer in the end.

In a way, you know, it may sound strange, but I feel a great similarity between Ferid and Sika Madu. Such a similarity that it seems for me that Ferid is a reflection of the curse placed on Sika Madu.

I would go into a lot of detail, but I risk making this essay too long.

The idea is that Ferid longs for a world with meaning, that good God, harmony and the possibility of a Heaven, the breaking of the cursed circle on earth. Just as Sika longed to reach Heaven again, where his Father (the other God) was, and just as he was cursed to live endlessly on that earth exactly like a Hell.

Even chapter 134, the fact that Ferid's memories where we find out how he feels about reincarnation follows the panel when Shinoa tells Sika that she will see all his memories. Beyond the sudden shift in perspective specific to the series. Perhaps this is also a clue related to what I say about the similarity between Ferid and Sika, about the sufferings of both.

If anyone is interested, I can elaborate more on this theory about Ferid and Sika.

Now, in conclusion, I am sure that no matter how everything ends, the vampire species will no longer exist. They are a cursed creation born of the suffering, frustrations and curse of Sika Madu. This is how the first vampire was "born", from his negative emotions generated by the received curse. So automatically this curse has to be resolved somehow.

And with the vampire species gone, surely their souls will find peace one way or another. I think a balance will be reached in the end.

I also have an idea for how Ferid could achieve this balance. I can elaborate on this in another post if anyone is interested.

After all, it remains to be seen how the author ends this fascinatingly profound story. I have full faith in Kagami and I am sure that the end of the story will teach us valuable things.

That is all for now. I feel like I wrote chaotically again. Please come back with questions about anything you feel. This topic is one that needs to be discussed a lot.

Thanks for giving me the opportunity to look into it a bit. I had never answered this question before.

Thank you very much for the trust in my interpretation! I hope this answer was at least a little helpful!

My inbox is always open for such discussions. And remember that kind feedback is welcome!

I wish you and whoever finds this post a good day!

#ferid bathory #urd geales #rigr stafford #crowley eusford #krul tepes #lest karr #ky luc #lacus welt #rene simm #horn skuld #chess belle #sika madu #shikama doji #owari no seraph #seraph of the end #ons #sote #ferid bathory analysis #owari no seraph analysis

[evanescent-epiphanies]

i spoke to God even though he don't care how i feel.

#ons #owari no seraph #shikama doji #sika madu #eva-epi-arts

[paperpeter]

They're just... Special.

Inspired by chapter 129.

#art #guren ichinose #owari no seraph #seraph of the end #shikama doji

[mimintenshi]

Now its time for the little memes i made hehe

#owari no seraph #seraph of the end #yuumika #mikayuu #yuumikayuu #yūichirō hyakuya #mikaela hyakuya #asuramaru #shikama doji #mimindraws

[lostsoulaltair]

OnS Chapter 136 Analysis - Love vs The Past

Well, a new chapter dropped. I must say that I liked it. We really are heading towards the end of the story and two sides now are on stage.

One fighting for love; the other one fighting to bring back something that is long lost.

Love can often be misunderstood in the manga story; to the point it distorts a lot, but in reality, it takes so many shapes, so many forms along giving birth to ideals.

Each character within the story is moved to do something for "love". But in this role too; the "love" for the "past" exists.

The past is a momentum that will always live in our memories; it is something that will forever be frozen; something that will not change. It's something that is part of us without defining us.

As we've seen today; the chapter starts with Yuu trying to reach the First; but given that the Progenitors want to avoid the destruction of the world much further; they were preventing Yuu from making contact with the First.

Of course, we see how Mika couldn't withstand the raw power of Urd Geales; we saw Shinya and Kureto alive and kicking once again; and finally, the main spot; the reunion between Shikama and Yuu.

Shikama is aware that Yuu has all his memories back ever since he detected an anomaly along the interaction with the corpse of Mikaela. Of course, whenever Shikama knows the soul of his son is alive and kicking, it's up to interpretation. Though, it is clear he knows it exists.

Eventually we see how Shikama is going to bestow Yuu his knowledge and power

But before he could give away his power to Yuu; Shinoa interferred with the possibility.

Leading to our possible future battle between Shinoa and Yuu.

Two ideals being carried away within the story. And yet, at the same time they connect through the main theme. "Love."

And no, it's not "romantic love ". The "love" or 愛 which is not the same as other interpretations of love itself. Just "ai". A love that takes so many shapes.

Let's begin with the real analysis here.

Yuu isn't exactly fighting for humanity nor his friends, nor his family. Given that the "regression" process he made to recall his whole life; he saw how his life originated alongside being the son of the First.

Given that, he is actually aiming for the task of "saving" but given that "love" is playing its role as well. It is the love he has deep down for his father that he is doing everything to bring back what his father cherished in the past. Which is something reflected as well when he was the angel Mikaela. Taking his life so divine punishment wouldn't fall upon his father.

Shikama did love his angels, his followers and he did blame himself for the punishment that fell upon them. But given God's nature; it was normal that the punishment fell upon those angels given that they no longer praised for God.

Though; one thing Shikama and Yuu have in common, is the attachment to the past. It is the very fact that the past for them is something that should have prevailed instead of changing. What do I mean?

To Shikama, the Progenitors he chose, despite being reincarnations of those angels that followed him once; are not his angels.

And this is highly visible once Ashera asks Shikama what he should do back in chapter 117.

To his eyes, Shikama's sired progenitors were just tools given that to him; they are shadows of who they were once, but to those progenitors; even if they have acknowledged that they are reincarnations; they made a choice.

They chose to follow up their own path. And as they've stated back in chapter 114; their last and final task is to protect the world they live in. Meaning avoiding the resurrection of the angel Mikaela.

But now, why do I say Shikama and Yuu have one thing in common?

Yuu is a character that despite living endlessly; along having a constant memory reset until now that he gathered all his memories; he's done one thing to no end. And that is living in the past.

True, there are scars that take its time to heal from the past; some are very difficult nonetheless; he chose to live in such past. When he had a chance to make a choice; that choice was no longer centered in the present; it began to lead further astray to the past.

But then, what's the point of those promises?

Given how everything has turned. Those promises are something that can't be fulfilled. What do I mean?

In order to revive the angels from long ago; sacrifices must be made. But here's another thing that it is being dismissed. What could it be?

The absolute lack of appreciation to life.

Yuu might state he aims to save everyone; even to Ashera who at the end understood that there are limits to life. He loved and embraced he managed to get his sister back; but the cost for that was making her suffer for eternity; nevertheless, the lives both had, those kind of experiences they managed to live had their moments of bliss; bringing back entities that perished long ago, is discarting the moments experienced, the moments lived along the emotions that were carried through a lifetime.

But now, there is an opposite force here. And that force is no other than. "Love."

Many might consider that Shinoa's love is "obssession, madness like Mahiru's love" but no. This is actually wrong.

Back when she stated she would kill Mikaela; there was a massive misconception of this which chapter 133 explained a lot.

Shinoa thought Yuu was being possessed by Mikaela at that time hence her retoric; but given that she saw first hand that Yuu had fooled them; she understood that Yuu was doing everything on his own will. And let's not forget that Yuu might be dumb, but not clueless or ignorant.

Shinoa's form of "love" is not something that came out of nothing; it's something that began taking shape by her own; it began from curiosity, turning into uncertainty, then transforming into caring, along developing feelings for a special someone. Such feelings for her were seen as something hideous or bad; but at the end, she understood they weren't bad, nevertheless, she never admitted them until or rather never accepted them truthfully until chapter 133.

Chapter 133 was a very reflexive chapter given that it gave Shinoa resolution; a resolution as to why it is the reason she was standing still in the very end of the world.

Shinoa's love is not centered to one person, but rather; it is centered to the very core family she gained through her journey which lead to this.

Her battle and her resolution is directed to the very family that has stood with her and has followed her through the long journey she has taken so far. Hence why; she is standing along her squad just like how the vampires did; how they are going to live. Not by a decree of an entity, not by a decree of her sister and Guren nor the vampires; but rather, taking their own path until the very end.

Hence why Shikama states that her love is self centered, which is no different from him. He centered his love to his angels; Shinoa is centering her love to those who exist in the present. Along letting them return to their normality before the world ended; given that the end of the world, the events that took place before they were born, were all spiderwebs made by the First.

This is the first time they are fighting for their own.

What do you think it'll happen next?

Let me know!

#owari no seraph #seraph of the end #ons #yuichiro hyakuya #mikaela hyakuya #shikama doji #mahiru hiragi #rigr stafford #urd geales #shinoa hiragi #hiragi kureto #shinya hiragi #hiiragi shinoa #mitsuba sangu #shiho kimizuki #yoichi saotome #vampire progenitors #ashera tepes #krul tepes #ons analysis #what do you think dear readers?

[crusaderce]

that feeling when canon has turned your character into a joke.

#shikama doji #crowley eusford #owari no seraph #ons spoilers #legit these characters have been shitted on #shi isn't intimidating anymore and has legit lost battles to children #where was the first progenitor that was sassy strong and teasing when he was first introduced?? #and crowley?? oh boy did they do him so fucking dirty #my art

[kuregure]

I miss the time when the story was simple and understandable 🤚😔

like :

- I don't understand anything about Shikama Doji

- I don't know what Yuu and Mika want to do right now

- Ferid?? What the fuck are you doing and what do you want

- I'm a little proud of Shinoa so it's okay

- Shinya and Kureto are still kidnapped?

- Guren and Mahiru-no-Yo? I think he's taking his best nap, wake up Guren you have humanity to bring back and you must save your family (again and again)

- Is Seishiro still chained to a bed?

- Where are Shigure, Sayuri, Mito and Norito?? and Narumi?

- When is this final fucking battle?

- WHEN WILL THE HAPPY ENDING BE???

☠☠☠

Well we saw Crowley at least even after his death

#seraph of the end #owari no seraph #owarinoseraphchapter135 #what the fuck kagami doing #we need answers please #ichinose guren #guren ichinose #hiiragi shinya #shinya hiiragi #yuichiro hyakuya #hyakuya yuichiro #kureto hiiragi #hiiragi kureto #mikaela hyakuya #hyakuya mikaela #hiiragi shinoa #shinoa hiiragi #shikama doji #ferid bathory #crowley eusford #sayuri hanayori #hanayori sayuri #shigure yukimi #yukimi shigure #mito jujo #jujo mito #norito goshi #goshi norito #narumi makoto #makoto narumi

[distinguished-slacker]

Shikama in chapter 113:

Shikama in chapter 125:

All in the span of 12 chapters…

#sorry… #I don’t want to keep on bashing on the new artstyle #but I just noticed this and I had to say it… #😭 #owari no seraph #seraph of the end #shikama doji

[nono-uwu]

Chapter 136 thoughts -w-

Spoilers duh

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- this chapter was certified meh. Mid, even. Not great, not horrible, just eh

- Mika looks so fucking ugly atp

- Urd in action!! Too bad he looks ugly as hell while at it

- Since when was there a curse that vampires can't kill Mikayuu?? This is the first time I'm hearing about it?? Huh

- wow, for once Mikayuu fail at a plan. That's a first

- Krul looks so good, adorable, beautiful. Truly a Queen <3

- No Ferid vs Krul brawl this chapter :(

- also Krul why are you doubting ur abilities against Ferid? Ur still way older than him, have some confidence >:/

- Shinya!! He's so ugly lmao what even

- so is Kureto. Lol. Lmao even.

- Their banter is nice tho. I liked it

- Shinya is so chill with having the wall of his fucking room burst open (not like it's the first time that happened...) bro is over this

- Guren squad soon??

- seems like a deliberate move on Shikama to not reveal that Shinoa is the one devouring him bc despite *gestures vaguely* everything, Yuu would probably still side with Shinoa. I hope.

- Shikama looks a little better art-style wise!

- Right, Yuu's goal now is to resurrect the angels... EVEN THOUGH THEIR REINCARNATIONS ARE LIKE, RIGHT THERE?? Except Asuramaru who he fucking ate

- no way Yuu got the cheatcodes to bypass god himself. Someone gotta smite this overzealous teenager bruh

- also dude, do NOT become Shikama's successor, what is wrong with you, you literally just saw how badly he fucked up bc of the love for his people

- FUCK YEAH SHINOA IDC ABOUT YUU'S GOALS BC HE MAKES ME SICK ATP GO FUCK SHIT UP- I mean whaaat Shinoa no don't destroy Shikama's and Mikayuu's plans noooo :(

- "But I'll take it all from you... So you can never hurt anyone with it again." Queen behavior. Also Shinoa looks v pretty,,,,

- ^ so from that I assume Shinoa isn't just doing allat out of her 'love' for Yuu but also out of love for anyone who got directly involved in Shikama's batshit insane plans (so Mahiru, Kimi and Yoi (they were test subjects too. btw.), probably even Mitsuba and also Yuu and Mika probably. But I also like to think she's doing it for her past self :) )

- anyways watch Kagami make Shinoa go full yandere bc god forbid there is a decently written woman in this series

- ends on Rigr and his squad maybe hopefully cornering Yuu. BEAT HIM UP PLEASE- I mean what noooo let the poor guy destory everything to revive your past angel incaranations :(

#am I biased? #yes. #very #i support womens rights and womens wrongs #go Shinoa go #owari no seraph #seraph of the end #ons #yuuichirou hyakuya #mikaela hyakuya #shinoa hiiragi #shikama doji

[greenapplebling]

Ignore me, I'm just here stanning characters just for their beauty bc I'm shallow (?

Old post from my instagram

#ons #my edit #i believe in supremacy meme #sote #owari no seraph #seraph of the end #meme #mikaela hyakuya #shinoa hiiragi #mahiru hiiragi #shinya hiiragi #shikama doji #sika madu #mikaela my precious son #mikayuu #yuumika #<< tagging just bc i can #manga #i just love the art from the manga a lot ok?

[banananananamaananana]

Fixed daddies 💖

#owari no seraph #seraph of the end #saito #shikama doji

[estrangedyawn]

Spoilers for new chapter of ONS: Yuu has ANGEL MIKAELAS soul, right? But the events in ancient Greece (that had to have happened much later after Shikama was damned) show that "Yuu?" was still able to talk to angel Mikas corpse. So who was he talking to if Angel Mika's soul is in Yuu?

In the ancient Greece flashbacks, yuu was able to be resurrected over and over like he was being cloned. This kind of makes sense seeing how eyeball Yuu was able to make humans. Maybe these default humans have the appearance of "Yuu"? But when host Yuu dies, what happens to the Yuu who had mikaelas soul? Is it his soul that keeps being reincarnated into a Yuu body?

ALSO if the souls of the fallen angels went into the new humans, WHERE DID THAT SOUL GO??? did it just get kicked out when Mikaelas soul went into Yuu? What!???!?

And obviously, the elephant in the room- WHO IS MIKA(demon/vampire/human)???

He's a vessel most likely, and has his own separate soul from Yuuichiro. But if Mika is a vessel, why has shikama saved angel Mikaelas body?

I don't think they're the same person no, so no selfcest. I think that this will be more like a half-soul plot thing if anything (maybe I guess???) I'm 99% sure though that there's gonna be some "But I'm still me, and you're still you!" speech at some point.

I have a lot more questions but I'm just digging a hole now. I love this manga, but actually what. Like what. As a KH superfan who gets the plot, even I'm confused. I'm sure this will be answered. Eventually, like in three years time. But it's just so frustrating. No i dont read the novels, or catastrophe at 16, but im assuming this is news to everyone in the community. Am I missing something? I'm just trying to theorize.

I'm in a little cage and want answers. Someone help.

#owari no seraph #mikayuu #ons #seraph of the end #mikaela hyakuya #yuuichirou hyakuya #yuu #shikama doji #Mika

[amethystroselily]

It’s kind of funny how it seemed like Saito had this huge mysterious goal and then it turned out he literally just has daddy issues, and then for a while it seems like Ferid just had daddy issues but it turns out he actually has this insane grand scheme and the saito revenge stuff is probably just a side project.

#ferid bathory #saito ons #rigr stafford #sika madu #shikama doji #owari no seraph #seraph of the end #ons manga

[gureshinlover]

We've been getting only mikayuu covers since volume 24 (only exception being vol28)😭😭

There was definitely no need for another angel mikaela cover, he literally has the same face and hand movement, why did they make the same cover in yellow this time, when they could've made the focus on shikama since this volume finally revealed his backstory, and he's the big villain and so! I'd be ok with angel Mikaela being in the cover if the focus was on shikama..

There are some mikayuu fans who always say "they're main characters so deal with it" but these covers are just the proof of how bad the story has become, at the beginnings of the manga we used to get different characters in the cover even if yuu and mika was still the main characters. Idk ahhh this is so annoying I hope we get other characters in the cover next time..

#ons #owari no seraph #mikaela #shikama doji #yuuichirou #official art

[yuiphantomhive123]

THEORY TIME!!!!

Okay, I sure most of you remember my other theories about Yu and Mika becoming the Sun God Aten and Archangel Michaela in the ultimate battle.

Well, I change my mind…

I now believe they will fuse/merge and become a seraphim or the ultimate seraph.

In chapter 108, Sika Madu told Yu and Mika to stop merging and it was to early for that.

Obviously, he has plan that involves them merging or fusing together.

So, I believe in future chapters Yu and Mika will literally merge/fuse together similar to the demons from Devilman Crybaby, the gems in Steven Universe, or the Kwamis from Miraculous Ladybug, and become the Ultimate Seraphim.

It makes sense because in most art, the description of a seraphim are described as beings with six wings (Mika) covered with eyes (Yu).

What do you guys think???

#owari no seraph #seraph of the end #mikaela hyakuya #yuichiro hyakuya #guren ichinose #shinoa hiiragi #yoichi saotome #kimizuki shiho #mitsuba sanguu #ferid bathory #crowley eusford #krul tepes #ashera tepes #shikama doji

[eluxcastar]

These are the product of me getting bored again I'm not crazy about like any of these but they gave me something to do and I enjoyed colouring them

yes I coloured the crusty angel (his name is Linus because I said so) (it isn't really I just thought of the kid from Sharkboy and Lavagirl)

I still can't figure out if he has eyebrows or not but I sure had a lot of fun drawing them on him 💀💀

#✦ — manga colourings. #shikama doji #yuuichirou hyakuya #owari no seraph #seraph of the end #ons #sote