#team venji bitches

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Yesterday and today has been a rollercoaster for my fanfae mood levels.

The Umbrella Academy trailer: YES WTF LOL KLAUS MY BELOVED THIS IS TOTAL CHAOS I LOVE

My Fake Boyfriend trailer: ooooooh, KEIYNAN MY BELOVED, why Zack Martin you've grown up, wait where the fuck is this going???? Intrigued.

Love, Victor trailer: I SWEAR TO ALL THAT IS GAY I WILL FUCKING RIOT IF THEY DON'T FIX VENJI WTF WTF WHY IS THERE ANOTHER GUY BEING INTRODUCED STOP IT. Lake and Lucy are cute af together and I must protect them.

Heartstopper being renewed for two more seasons: MY HEART LITERALLY JUST STOPPED YEEEEEEES IM SO HAPPY 🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰

#fanfae things #fandoms collide #system overload #my fake boyfriend #keiynan lonsdale #dylan sprouse #the umbrella academy #love victor #team venji bitches #heartstopper #queer things

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I will forever cry over this tweet

#love victor #love victor spoilers #love victor s2 #venji #victor and benji #victor salazar #benji campbell #bebe wood #team benji #victor x benji #team venji bitches

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... my brain.

Season one had Benji covering Call Me Maybe.

Season two had Benji doing the Go Grizzlies Dance.

Benji recreating this is the logical next step for season three, obviously.

#benji campbell #love victor #team venji bitches #happy pride #my brain is a strange place sometimes lol #Instagram

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Finished binging season three of Love Victor. Despite all the yelling I did at the screen, I didn't hate this season nearly as much as I hated the last season. There's a bunch of stuff I wish they would've done better/differently, storylines I wish had been developed more, ect, but this season didn't leave me with seething rage, which is much improvement.

#love victor season 3 #love victor spoilers #love victor #team venji bitches

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We do understand that it wasn't *just* Isa's reaction to walking in on Victor and Benji that made Benji snap, right?

It was months of refusing to meet his eyes, ignoring his presence, cringing over Benji's hand on Victor's arm, throwing out perfectly good food because she couldn't stomach the fact of him sitting at her table eating her specialty food, referring to him as Victor's friend, if she chose to refer to him at all, and repeatedly refusing to tell Adrian about them, because "he's a kid", the implications of which are obvious and more than a little harmful.

It was a bunch of little moments building and building and building and considering he already went through some pretty vulnerable soul baring moments that night and was in a pretty emotional naked place, getting caught like that was just the straw that broke the camel's back.

Was he right to snap like that? No. But let's not pretend it was *just* because of that moment.

#love victor spoilers #love victor #team venji bitches #venji #benji campbell #trauma response #little things become big things when they keep piling up

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If this is the final season of Love, Victor, I sincerely hope they dedicate a good chunk of time to actually fleshing out Benji and his backstory, because season 2 spent so much time on everyone else and he deserves more.

#love victor #love victor season three #benji campbell #team venji bitches

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God, we haven't even fully touched on the fact that Benji's parents literally outted him as an alcoholic to Victor. Benji was so uncomfortable from the very start of that dinner and he tried to ask them to stop once he realized what they were doing but they didn't. His dad literally shut him down because his mom "had been practicing this speech for days". Because that is clearly more important than respecting your child's boundaries and not spilling their secrets to their boyfriend without their consent.

And on his birthday, nonetheless.

The longer you think about this, the worse it gets.

#let me wrap him in bubblewrap ffs #benji campbell #love victor spoilers #love victor #team venji bitches #venji

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Also I'm firmly in the "they both have 100% valid hurts born from trauma that, in this specific situation, rubbed against each other in a horrifically painful way" mindset.

Their problems were due to their trauma response brought forth by a lot of outside issues and not by any deliberately malicious or dickish behavior on *either of their parts*.

Did they both fuck up? Yes. Could they have handled situations better? Probably. Do I blame either of them for it? No.

They are sixteen year old boys, with a shitton of baggage between the two of them, trying to navigate a world full of reminders of what caused that trauma, and unfortunately, sometimes you feel safest lashing out at the people you love the most. It's shitty and it sucks, but it happens.

I really need them to work through this, together. They deserve that

Both of them do.

#trauma response #benji campbell #victor salazar #love victor spoilers #love victor #I want to wrap them both in bubblewrap and keep them from being hurt ever again #team venji bitches #venji

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The basketball boyfriend scene is making me think a lot.

Benji, before coming out, was trying so hard to appear straight, to be straight, to do things straight people do, that straight men do... things like obsessing over sports and mocking the idea of romance as a girl thing, as a gay thing.

Then he comes out, and he's gay and suddenly realizing he's not expected to have to reject this romantic streak he's got, he can embrace it and enjoy it.

Only to be told by his boyfriend that romance is heteronormative romcom bulllshit and they're gay so they're not doing that.

Just the fact that we'd literally never heard Benji make jokes like the ones he made with his band until the episode where Victor is trying to figure out "how gay is gay enough" is interesting. Benji makes the joke about basketball girlfriends, I think, because secretly, he thinks the idea is romantic and cheesy af but he's also learned that somehow it's considered straight bs and it's a very weird thing to walk the line of.

How gay is too straight?

Benji is leaning this lesson in the episode just as much as Victor is, we just don't necessarily get to see it played out on screen.

But Benji had to have made time to practice that dance. Because he wanted to. He was so happy doing it. He was figuring out just how gay he wanted to be, and yeah, it was cheesy romantic basketball boyfriend doing the Go Grizzlies dance.

And I love that for him.

#and yes I know we also had the scene about sports not being the most evolved group Victor could be apart of #which isn't exactly untrue #sports are kind of notorious for that kind of behavior and the fact that Victor's team came around doesn't change that on a whole #love victor spoilers #love victor #victor salazar #benji campbell #team venji bitches #venji

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Not me thinking about why Benji was so scared to be the first one to say I love you, despite clearly being ready to say it. For some reason the echo of "hetronormative romcom bullshit" is repeating in my brain. I wonder why.

#love victor spoilers #love victor #benji campbell #i have a desperate need to get inside this boy's head #team venji bitches #venji

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So I see there's a new gif set of Isabel's "apology" to Benji floating around and... yeah, I've been hardcore trying not to think too hard on this scene because it makes me kind of uncomfortable and angry, for several reasons.

1. the fact that her low bar going into this conversation is to be "unhorrible" to him. like... yikes. This is a grown woman patting herself on the back for being unhorrible to a 16/17 year old. And Armando going with that specific phrasing? Yeah, this rubbed me wrong.

2. It wasn't an apology. This was only an apology the way a grown up teaching a toddler how apologizes work is an apology. "I said sorry, so that means you forgive me." Like... they don't actually work that way. You are not entitled to a person's forgiveness just because you said you're sorry.

3. "I'm sorry if I'm the cause of the problems between you and Victor."

Honestly there's a lot to unpack here.

This isn't actually an apology for anything she did or said. This is the only sorry she said, and it was based solely on the relationship, not Benji's hurts. She already addressed Victor's hurts. She apologized TO HIM. She didn't do that with Benji. She reduced him to her son's relationship, even if it wasn't deliberately. She might have embraced the fact that Victor is in a relationship with this boy, but she hasn't wrapped her head around the fact that this boy is a person outside of that relationship with his own baggage.

4. That fact becomes really apparent when she glosses entirely over his statement that their problems were a lot bigger than just her, with the helpful little comment about relationships being effort no matter the age. (and the fact that we had to do the tired "woman jokingly pretends she's younger than she is" joke here is... sigh.) But there was no concern as to what those "bigger problems than a boyfriend's homophobic mother making things really difficult" could possibly entail. Because she has Victor's side of the story and right now, that's the whole story in her mind. Because Benji is not a person outside of her son's relationship yet.

5. The fact that she decided the conversation was over just like that. She said what she wanted to say and to her, that was all that was needed. This irritates me. No asking for forgiveness, no asking if they're on the road to learning to be okay with each other, no chance for him to say anything back. She wanted to be unhorrible to him, and she did that, and that's all she did.

6. Her parting words about not daring to use the microwave on her food after she literally threw the last batch in the garbage to keep him from sitting at her table to eat it is... wow. From an audience perspective, that's just not at all okay to me and really didn't end this scene on a good note.

Basically I'm concerned that they're going to completely wash this over and act like this conversation actually did anything besides ease Isabel's guilt and finally give Benji a tiny bit of visual proof that she might actually be trying with him. I hope not, but sometimes it feels like we've kind of accepted the "Isabel apologized and that magically makes all the hurt go away" narrative, when it really doesn't.

I really hope they spend some time allowing Benji to be a fully fleshed out character and actually having other characters seeing that.

#venji is endgame #venji endgame #team venji bitches #team venji #isabel salazar #benji campbell #i'm having emotions #love victor #love victor spoilers

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Also, I really really wish we got to see more of Benji and Victor coming up with their own little secret love language and using it more than the one time. They are both romantic saps and that it what we should've gotten with their relationship. Season three. Secret love language. Give it to me.

#team venji bitches #venji #benji campbell #victor salazar #love victor spoilers #love victor #gimme cavity inducing sweet romantic boyfriends #they deserve that

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I did not expect there to be a sudden trend of time travel fix it fanfics in the Love, Victor fandom, but I am not at all complaining.

Also, until proven otherwise, my headcanon is that the mysterious time traveling force is actually Bram, who sensed an anomaly in the Queer Force after coming home to his moping boyfriend who just got dumped as Gay Sherpa. Prove me wrong.

#team venji bitches #love victor #fandom #fanfic #creekwoodverse #bram greenfeld #simon spier #benji campbell #victor salazar

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Love Victor season three writer's room challenge:

1. No love triangles, ffs.

2. Find a different cliff hanger format.

#love victor #love victor season 3 #team venji bitches

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Hm, I see a lot of talk about a lack of communication between Victor and Benji, but I honestly don't think that's the problem. They know how to communicate and when they sit down to do it, it's amazing. I think the issue is that they're both talking at once and drowning each other out, if that makes sense?

They want the other to stop the thing that's hurting them (which is the same thing really) without being able to fully understand that this one situation is hurting them in very very different ways and alleviating the others pain just hurts themselves more. Their relationship and communication was never the problem. It was that the noise became so loud it became painful and they couldn't hear each other over it.

I really hope season 3 gives them some quiet time, where they can *hear* each other.

#venji #team venji bitches #love victor spoilers #love victor #i I don't think either of them are wrong really #they both got valid hurts from the shit they've been through and they need to learn how to work through it #love triangle #what love triangle? #never happened

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In some ways I'm still kind of processing some elements of LVS2 that didn't sit with me right and the more I think about it, the more that scene with Isabel walking in on Victor and Benji bothers me, and it has absolutely nothing to do with the actual story there.

It has to do with the fact that the writers/producers/directors/whoever chose that specific scene to be the more explicit of the two sex scenes between Venji. I understand that they were trying to make it more shocking from the "look what Isabel walked in on!" aspect, but they could've accomplished that with the less explicit scene. Like, being walked in on is always a shock and always awkward but... this scene wasn't supposed to be an awkward scene.

The whole point of this scene was to end it on a note of disgust and anger and fear. It was the whole point. The climax of the whole situation. Which, considering their audience is a largely queer based audience seems... insensitive to say the least.

How many closeted queer folk have had this fear of being found out at the wrong moment by the wrong person? Not just in a sexual situation, but the fact that this scene is an explicit sexual situation just makes it even harder to actually watch, because it immediately ties all those fears to it and then makes them actually happen.

The fact that this scene, instead of the sweet I love you happy sunshine first time scene, was the more explicit of the two is frustrating to me.

And it really, really makes me think that they need to get a LGBTQIA+ sensitivity reader up in there, because that shit can be super triggering.

(I'm honestly unsure of how to tag this, so if you think it needs another tw tag, please let me know.)

#love victor spoilers #tw: mental health #tw: homophobia #sorry had to get this out of my head #team venji bitches #venji #i wish for once we got happy queer content that didn't contain random landmines #love victor