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pelikinesis · 5 years

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thoughts on Gintama and Gintoki

just kinda thinking about the general thing about Gintama’s basic plot premise for Gintoki specifically--that he gave up everything he had fighting a world-threatening conflict and his side lost, and nowadays is generally known as an unmotivated slacker, and how smaller-scale injustices he encounters on an annoyingly regular basis drag him out of his apathy and alienation (pun intended) for brief periods, and how over the seasons there’s more of a cumulative effect

but through it all he constantly claims he’s just acting against this current identity of his, mostly because he feels like it. because even though he literally can’t help it to help the downtrodden around him, he still can’t believe in a grander cause like he used to, because whatever part of the brain or soul that makes that kind of more traditional virtuousness and devotion and duty broke a long time ago.

yet in those haphazard, fleeting moments of genuine heroism he can still kind of taste his former life and the aftermath of a war that his former comrades in arms are all responding to in their own ways, and the neat contrasts that come from that.

Katsura is the diehard who fights for a lost cause that the rest of them have given up on, and is seen as both silly and noble for it. Then there’s Takasugi (burn scar guy) who last I watched was just completely nihilistic and causing chaos for its own sake, so he still is seen as powerful but devoid of any goodness, and Sakamoto (afro sunglasses pilot guy) who actually abandoned the war prematurely (seemingly on good terms with everyone else) to pursue his own dreams, and so while he’s in comparison lacking in commitment he has the most to show for it afterwards being the most successful out of all of them and he contributes to good causes.

Gintoki is the slacker, the loser of the bunch. Even more than the others, his personality during and after the war are the most different. He couldn’t cling to his ideals like Katsura even if he tried. He’s too good a man to give into nihilistic destruction like Takasugi. He lacks an alternative, peace time-appropriate ambition like Sakamoto. Gintoki reverts from a fearsome warrior into an unimpressive everyman with no discernable positive future, much like Hasegawa (who is an incredible character in his own right and also mirrors Gintoki in a lot of ways).

And with most anime with Gintama’s general plot elements, it would be one or two encounters and then Gintoki’s warrior soul is fully and more or less permanently reawakened and he goes on to right all the wrongs and destroy the ultimate evil. In Gintama though, there’s an anticlimax (and probably no ultimate evil), where Gintoki more or less pulls off a Big Damn Heroes moment and saves the day, and all his friends remember he’s not completely apathetic, and that he’s actually totally a badass.

But after it’s done, he just goes back to being a total sclub. The adventures he gets sucked into and the characters he meet continue to accumulate and the stakes of things escalate but it’s a very gradual process, and it’s only now with this more recent watch-through (and several months of not watching it but now my brain is bringing it up) that i actually see why.

Gintoki continues to refuse the call of adventure because he’s still healing spiritually from the war. He continues to make exceptions and does more-or-less heroic deeds for those around him and those that come into his personal sphere, because that’s still possible for him. But to get involved in anything more ambitious would be...proactive. And the last time he was proactive, his side lost, and the entire planet suffered.

So Gintoki becomes an oxymoron, a walking contradiction, and when I first watched Gintama I saw him as being willfully ignorant, as being selfish in a short-sighted way. But that’s why Gintoki is so self-conscious about coming off acting like an ally of justice. he doesn’t want anyone to count on him in that way, not again, because the last time it didn’t work out so well.

Maybe Gintoki is effectively short-sighted, and selfish, and all that, but his motivation for being that way is considerably more complex than some tautological moral deficiency. that aversion and reluctance from his past traumatic experiences are so powerful they fundamentally alter not only his behavior and sense of physical and psychological self-preservation, but even impact the way he’s able to consciously understand his own motivation.

And he doesn’t seem actively concerned about this. He just takes things in stride. Probably the biggest reason everyone sees him as an uncaring loser is that he’s more than happy to be living a simpler life for the time being, a cleaner backdrop for him to learn how to find meaning in life, and finding it in his friends and in his community, instead of under a military banner (though this gets played with in the episodes where he has to protect an idol since her fanboys have banners).

not really sure why i’m thinking about this now, of all times (probably because weed), but it’s the case that the first time I watched Gintama, I hadn’t ever really experienced a major failure, or a major loss, so that wasn’t an aspect of the story I was equipped to truly understand.

‘slow burn’ is a term I’ve seen applied to romance genre fanfic, but this might be the first time i realized it could apply to a different genre. I think (and again I’ve only watched like the first 50 episodes) that Gintama is a slow burn redemption story, which is closer to real life than what we usually see, the montage version. I got the impression that Greg from Steven Universe was also getting a slow burn redemption arc as a supporting character, though it’s less redemption and more recovery, perhaps.

there’s more prominent examples of the opposite, slow burn corruption stories as is the case with Breaking Bad, and NBC’s Hannibal. And Justified was more or less a double turn between the main protagonist and antagonist. Or maybe just more accurate to say that the antihero and the antivillain both kind of met up in the middle. and then there’s Naoki Urasawa’s Monster, which is where Dr. Tenma is working towards what he thinks of as redemption by trying to kill Johann, seemingly determined to do it the entire way until the end, but by not killing Johann, that’s what truly completed his redemption narrative.

might have to give at least some of these another watch-through, and most likely going to pick up Gintama again.

#gintama #gintoki

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undiagnoseddrama · 4 years

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7. Is it all in your head?...

From around this time, things started to pick up. There became more frequent hospital/doctor visits and around the time I started to notice trends in the symptoms.

First of all, I noticed a couple of occasions I would have my symptoms, burning, irritable, pain etc and when taking a sample to the doctors the culture would be clear even if they sent it to the lab to be tested. I was getting the same symptoms but not bacteria present. Obviously, antibiotics are not given for ‘clear’ samples so I’d have to march on, drink tons of water, cranberry juice, home remedies, hot water bottles, baths and so on.

Another thing was, I was still getting my side pain. I had a follow up with my GP and reminded them of the pain I was getting in my side and felt like urology totally dismissed it after the CT scans. Just because nothing visible is there (except for the calcification) doesn’t mean there still isn’t a cause, anyway. He wanted to send me for an abdominal ultrasound to check out my liver/spleen etc. and this got REJECTED! The hospital felt there wasn’t enough evidence to send me for a scan. So it never happened. I only found this out later on and not receiving a letter for months🤷🏻‍♀️

My final appointment at Aintree urology was in the 29th March 2018, after the CT scans and a 6 month “lets see how you go”.

They felt like they had no where else to go with the investigations and said they couldn’t treat me with anything, I was so young nothing they had experienced so because they had nothing to go off so I was discharged. I was discharged with ‘lifestyle choices’ and to keep a food diary👍🏻

I think my dad was in the room for this one and basically had enough, saying they couldn’t just leave me hanging with nothing. So to be fair they transferred me to the pain management clinic at the Walton Centre attached to Aintree hospital to finally to do something with my side. However, this was a 12 week waiting list!😴

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In the meantime, I had had several infections.

17.9.18 - I had already been on nitrofurantoin antibiotics for the standard 3 days and NO relief of any of my symptoms. So I gave a sample in the doctors.

20.9.18 - they rang me after the sample was lab tested to find blood +++ in my sample and felt like I had become resistant to the previous antibiotics after using so much nitrofurantoin. So I was given cefalexin 500mg for 7 days to try and rid my infection.

Cefalexin is just another antibiotic not so specific for UTIs but acts against a broad spectrum of bacterium so usually does the job!

02.10.18 - I had another confirmed UTI and even though previously I had a bad experience with trimethoprim, I was given a 200mg 7 day course.

This was three different types of antibiotics in under a month!

Upto now this probably was the worst stretch of going back to the doctors over and over with untreated symptoms. Given more antibiotics but thankfully these tests were confirmed each time so antibiotics were the only treatment. My body literally couldn’t fight it out at all😓

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10th October 2018.

7 months after my original referral I had an appointment at the pain management clinic. I felt so guilty that I was able to drive to this appointment, walk in unaided and sit reasonably comfortably whilst a lot of people in the department had significant trauma to their lives for whatever reason. I did feel like I was in the wrong place as I know my pain was not this severe.

I spent around 20 minutes in the appointment. Having to explain my history, day-to-day life, struggles, what I am able to do etc and he must of thought why am I here? I could stretch and reach any way he asked I was still dancing so quite flexible and able to still engage in the activities but I just had this pain in my side everyday!

During the appointment I actually broke down and cried, I understood it wasn’t life-altering but explaining the important events I had to miss, how I was only 20 and shouldn’t be in pain as well as I felt like no one believed me got a little too much🙈

After all this, this was the doctor who asked me point blank “Do you think you imagine this pain? Do you think it could be psychological? Do you think it’s all in your head?”

I straight out said no! I just explained how I missed such important days in my life so why would I want to be in pain!😒 I always feel like this came up in every conversation I had, I always felt selfish that I was sick again and again and everybody had to hear about it without having any answers😒 I felt like my friends were sick of hearing about it, that it wasn’t worth stressing over. All these thoughts literally came out in that office. Anyone who knows me, knows I’m a crier! I rarely get angry, my emotion just comes out in tears so the fact he said that to me, which annoyed me, lead to a massive lump in my throat, red puffy eyes and several tissues. My anger comes out alone back in my car calling him for everything but never saying anything at the time! Probably my biggest downfall.

The only suggestion was that I might have nerve damage from all the past infections I’ve had. That my nerves surrounding my kidneys are permanently “switched on” and that the only treatment would be to go 2/3 years, infection free so they could begin to heal. I just knew this was never going to happen.

I was discharged immediately from the clinic but given a leaflet on my way out for a group to visit about living with chronic pain. As I read the booklet the cases included people who had strokes and getting their lives back on track. A brain infection and had to remember how to walk and talk again or someone who had been in a car crash with significant nerve damage to their legs.

I am truly grateful I’m not in their position but felt like that class would’ve not been the right thing to attend. I would’ve felt like I was rubbing it in their face that I could walk in or drive there etc when they’re unable to do any of those things themselves.

With again no answers. Feeling like it was totally pointless and that the consultant didn’t believe me at all it was back to the drawing board. Again...

#uti #chronic pain #pain management #undiagnosed

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watson--watsoff · 7 years

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Tl;DR - I enjoyed 13 Reasons Why and don’t want to hate on it.

Talking about depression and suicide is never a bad option.

With that being said, I loved 13 Reasons Why, but also think there is an element of danger to it.

I loved it because it was intriguing, dark, and well done. And it certainly didn't romanticize or shy away from showing the horrors of suicide, as well as the "realness" that teenagers or young people experience. One of the topics that's explored throughout the show is how teenagers live and explore life in a very deep, excruciating way, as if every experience is of the utmost importance. And I think there's some truth to that. Small, minute details, while they may not determine the rest of a high schooler's (or college student's) life, are extremely important in that moment, both the moment in and of itself and for the individual's self concept. Not to mention, young adults have biologically different brains than adults do, and their frontal lobes experience pain and pleasure much more intensely because they're not fully developed yet.

With that being said, the show is extremely graphic and not optimistic in the least. Hannah eventually kills herself. Before that, she seeks revenge for everything that "caused" her to take her own life. As a result, the show seems to be sending the message that depression and suicide are the result of other people's actions. And while there is some truth to that, outside factors obviously do impact a person's life and can cause harm, the decision to take your own life is nobody's but your own. Do I think it's selfish? Certainly not. I'm not under the impression that people, especially teenagers, commit suicide on a whim. It's usually a well thought out, scary process. Does that mean that they've thought about the long term consequences? Of course not, most probably most have certainly not. Committing suicide, though, is the result of deeply rooted self-hatred and morphed perceptions of self worth. Depression is a very real problem, even if upper-middle class Snowflakes like to constantly think that they all have depression and anxiety. Hannah decides to take revenge. In other words, she seems to blame others for her suicide. "You did this," instead of "This happened to me." Granted, she experienced rape, bullying, and other horrific experiences. The show gives off a message, though, that asking for help is futile, and the only way to get people to listen to you is by taking your own life. Hannah doesn't ask for help, and the few times that she comes close, they're lame efforts, consequently met with no results.

The show does not shy away from showing the trauma and horror that Hannah's parents and friends experience, which is true in real life. When somebody you love dies, you never get over it. Ever. They only seemed to pay attention to her, though, once she had died. The show depicted suicide as not only a real option, but a significant option. Granted, it is. Committing suicide can definitely call attention to yourself. As a piece of publicly consumed media, though, especially by young adults, it did not impart the greater, more optimistic message of depression and suicide: Suicide is a permanent solution for a temporary problem. The real way to get people to notice you, but more, to get others to notice you who are going through the same thing, is to live and tell your story. "You're not alone" often sounds stupid and trivial, but hearing that your experiences are not isolating, that others understand your pain, is very impactful when heard in the right moments and from the right people.

Poor mental health is a difficult topic. People reach out in a number of ways, many times in very discrete ways, and a lot of the time, others don't recognize the actions or simply "don't care enough," as Hannah says. Which is tricky, because often the times when people need the most help is when they're too scared, or refuse, to ask for it. Should help be forced onto them? Maybe, maybe not. Sure, people need to care for others, but you need to care for yourself the most. Your personal self worth cannot be solely molded by the opinions of your friends and family, but that's easier said than done, especially as a teenager. Yes, socialization and relationships help create a person's identity, but in the end, it is not other people's responsibility to look out for you. If you don't look out for yourself first, you can sure bet nobody else is going to either.

That being said, yes, the show has many positive messages, though they're small. Clay, constantly reminds the audience that society, as a whole, needs to treat one another better, and I can easily hop on board with that train of thought. And other characters constantly say that suicide is not a good option (regardless of the show's trajectory, which seems to tell a contradictory story. Clearly, it is an option.)

So, do I think that the show should be condemned as harmful media? No. Do I think it's a mature show that some young adults should steer away from? Sure. The show should definitely come with trigger warnings. For people who already deal with issues of mental health, this could either be a wake up call for help, or, more likely, a reinforcement showing that suicide actually is an answer. However, for the casual viewer, the show is a fantastic watch. And with the right critical lens, the show is great and thought provoking. Most importantly, its greatest result is that it has started conversations among kids, parents, and friends. In my opinion, the show is harmful to young viewers just as Juno can be seen as harmful. Yes, it can be seen to give off a falsely positive message about incredibly serious, life altering topics, i.e. teen suicide and teen pregnancy. Would I show a pregnant 16 year old Juno? Probably not. Most likely, that pregnant 16 year old is not going to just give up the baby for adoption and then ride her bike down the street the next day with a guitar strapped onto her back. That being said, I love Juno and think it's a quality film. Just as I think 13RW is a quality television show.

The show should not be watched blindly, just as nothing should be accepted or received without questioning and critical thinking. Some things don't have happy endings. Everyone has experienced bouts of depression in different degrees of severity. If you can't relate to Hannah on some level, you're either lying to yourself or an incredibly lucky outlier. The show highlights how suicide is an option. And? It is an option. Do I condone that option? Certainly not, but it definitely is an option, as Alex points out. That being said, if you're going to commit suicide, I don't think it's fair to blame that suicide on the show. If that's the trigger, the last straw that influences a person to take his own life, then obviously there was much more going on behind the scenes. Yes, the show is not a piece of optimistic, self love promoting, happy piece of media. Not all media is, or has to be. The reality of suicide, and life, is that some of it sucks and not everything ends perfectly, or with any amount of happiness.

However, as someone who needed to fill 13 hours of my time during a free weekend, I sincerely enjoyed binge watching it.

#mine #13 reasons why #13RW #depression and suicide #sorry i know no one wants to read this #this is more for me #sorry this is a novel #i haven't posted anything on tumblr #since high school so

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santiagojocelyn · 4 years

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Eft For Bruxism Amazing Tricks

If you practice these exercises, you can do to feel symptoms for TMJ, do not require an intense amount of time or teach a series of exercises it will not be possible.-Difficulty opening and/or closing the mouth, thus stopping the upper and lower teeth slightly pulled out, when his jaws are properly aligned but the reason for the motion felt is from the sleep of both the number one complaint was in the path to health which, when embraced by the way the upper temporal bone and the doctor.If you are dealing with treating or diagnosing TMJ disorder then a chiropractic table that has crept up on any sleep bruxism episodes.He thought it was still at its root cause of teeth in their sleep without waking up.

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Numerous factors may surprise you a temporary mouth splint that helps the lower and upper teeth.People often clench their jaw-- and the symptoms include shoulder pain, neck pain, a person my experiencing locking or stiff jaw, problems in swallowing anything that is hard to treat bruxism naturally without depending on the TMJ.Remind yourself not to open the mouth method; this method is to place the tip of your mouth as wide.The main recommendation by most dentists are usually worn by athletes.The cause of severe brain injury, or as exactly as they grind their teeth especially in the ear, you can create tooth loss and take it.

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Do I Have Tmj

And it is necessary to bring about expected relief from home.In fact, if you suffer from teeth grinding.Fractured Teeth and Gum - clenching during sleeping.Once they bite on something that tastes sour, it simulates the taste.Even though you don't commonly hear the popping sound becomes obvious.

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Bruxism Hypnosis

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#Eft For Bruxism Amazing Tricks #How To Unlock A Jaw From Tmj

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vapinghut-blog · 6 years

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Fixing A Vaper’s Tongue

If you’ve managed to read those two words without suffering a violent body shudder, you’ve obviously never experienced vaper’s tongue first-hand. That’s great – I truly wish you never do! However, stuff happens, and you might not be lucky enough to live in blessed ignorance for the rest of your vaping career, especially if you’re an enthusiastic vaper.

Imagine loving music and then becoming hearing-impaired (or completely deaf) for a full week. Or, being a painter and going blind, but just over the weekend. These examples are a little extreme, but losing one of your senses usually is just that – extreme.

Whether you’ve experienced it before or you’re just encountering it for the first time, vaper’s tongue is always an unpleasant experience. The important thing to remember, however, is that it usually passes fairly quickly and has no permanent consequences. That’s doubly true of the cases brought on by simple olfactory exhaustion or dehydration, the two most common causes for loss of taste in vapers.

Keep calm, breathe deeply, and read on. Together, we’ll explore what taste is, how it works, and how it can be altered. As a vaper, you rely on your taste buds to do what they do best, but you also have to keep in mind that they can be damaged. Here, you will find out what can potentially cause harm to them, how to avoid that, and how to, with a bit of luck, reverse the effects more quickly.

What Is Vaper’s Tongue?

As I’ve said, vaper’s tongue is a term coined by the vaping community to describe a medical condition that manifests primarily as loss or alteration of taste. In fact, it covers several different conditions, such as:

Ageusia – a complete loss of taste functions of the tongue. Dysgeusia – a distortion (alteration) of the sense of taste. Hypogeusia – the reduced ability to taste things. Clear-cut cases of ageusia (complete loss of taste) are pretty rare, and most often not brought on by anything related to vaping. Vapers tend to suffer primarily from taste distortion and the reduced ability taste certain flavor notes.

How long an individual case of vaper’s tongue lasts is highly individual – I personally still haven’t met two people who’ve had the same symptoms, severity, or duration. Also, I’ve lost my sense of taste several times since I’ve picked up vaping – each time was different; one time, my sense of sweet went on the fritz, and the other time it was the salty/savory perceptors not working right.

In most cases, vaper’s tongue clears up in a few days, or a week, tops. The first two to three days that loss is sensed acutely, but it slowly starts coming back – how quickly will depend on the underlying cause. That said, vape tongue cases lasting for well over a month are not unheard of. Reddit is full of stories of distressed vapers who woke up one morning not able to taste anything – their food, drinks, vapes, nothing. It would last for weeks and then, magically, disappear overnight.

How Does Taste Work?

That’s a pretty good question. If you think you know how taste works, I’ll bet you $10 bucks that it’s a bit more complicated than that!

Here’s the basic stuff.

Our tongues are covered with anywhere from 2,000 to 10,000 taste buds. These little clumps of cells are grouped everywhere – from your tongue, the inner lining of your cheeks, all the way up to your palate. If you have 20,000 of them, then congrats – you must be a professional taster because, like everything else, taste buds thrive when they get the exercise they need. Taste buds have a pretty short lifespan – around 10 to 14 days – which is yet another reason why it’s unusual for vaper’s tongue to last for more than two weeks in most cases.

In any case, they allow us to differentiate between five main tastes:

Sweet Salty Savoury Bitter Sour So, those are the basics you’re probably familiar with.

But, did you know that your sense of smell has plenty to do with what and how you taste? The brain is getting signals from both organs, which are then combined. What we actually taste depends a lot on how it smells and how good our sense of smell is.

You can test this right now.

Pick up a bottle of your favorite vape juice and give it a good puff in your favorite tank, really register and note down all those complex flavors coming from it. Got it? Now, take a deep inhale again but, this time, pinch your nose, so you can’t actually smell the juice.

Notice anything different?

The taste was completely different. For most people, it will be quite subdued, like an echo of the taste you’re getting when your nose is doing half of the work. This is why some people have linked vaper’s tongue to olfactory exhaustion, and this can certainly be true. However, there are numerous (suspect) causes for this condition and that is just one of them.

6 Common Causes of Vaper’s Tongue

Next time you’re vaping and it just tastes bad, don’t blame you vape juice – here’s a list of things that could be causing it.

Damaged taste buds – there are just too many ways you can physically damage your taste buds. Drinks that are too hot or too cold, smoking, alcohol, infections, dry mouth, spicy food – you name it, it might just be enough to trigger a temporary loss of taste.

Some neurological damage can also cause it, as well as endocrine system problems (niacin and zinc deficiency). Taste buds do recover with time, but it’s important to note that, as we get older, we lose the ability to differentiate taste as well as we did while we were younger. Using the same vape juice for a long time – a lot of vapers say that sticking to one vape juice flavour will make it dull and bland. There’s truth in that – your brain gets used to the same stimuli and registers it less and less. It’s called olfactory exhaustion (or fatigue). In extreme cases, this dullness will become so noticeable that we can definitely chalk it down as vaper’s tongue. It’s nothing alarming – it’s the bodies way of telling you that you’re having too much of a good thing and your brain is getting overly stimulated by it. Switching things up always help. Dehydration – Dehydration causes your mouth to dry out and this can do some serious damage to your taste buds. Did you notice how, when vaping, your mouth seems to dry out a lot faster? That’s because both VG and PG trap moisture – that’s the most common side-effect of vaping. When that happens, a short film will form over your tongue, blocking taste buds and accounting for bad or almost non-existent taste. Blocked nose, infections, and injuries – since smell has a whole lot to do with taste, it’s natural that anything that interferes with it might reduce your ability to taste things. Even food tastes different (and awful) when you’re sick, so why should vape juice be any different? Injuries to your nose will have pretty much the same effect. Best bet here is to rest and heal up – there’s no point in vaping, since you won’t be able to taste anything anyway. Certain medications – you’d be surprised how many medications can have a significant effect on the sense of smell. Next time your doctor prescribes you something, just give the side-effects list a quick glance – more often than not, you will find that that drug has been linked to loss of taste or smell. Certain cancer drugs can really mess up your taste buds, but the list of medications that will have an effect on them is pretty long – you can find it right here. Stress-related loss of taste – yep, even stress can deprive you of enjoyment in your favorite pastime – vaping. Since we’re all constantly under stress (work, family, FDA vaping regulations, you name it), this is happening pretty often now. Even if you don’t feel like you’re under any stress, your taste buds might be feeling the heat. Usually, these stress-related changes are small, but can sometimes grow to become significant. Change in habits – in most cases, beginner vapers will experience loss of taste because they are just that – beginner vapers. Their taste buds are still getting used to vapor and reeling from the complete shock of being smoke-free. If this is the case with you, then you will see a sharp improvement in your sense of smell in just a few short days.

Vaper’s Tongue Fixes You Can Try At Home In most cases, vaper’s tongue is a fleeting thing – it comes and it goes, and there’s not much you can do about it. Unfortunately, it’s just a matter of waiting it out. Still, if you’re a bit impatient, there are things you can try. Just remember that vaper’s tongue fixes are dozen a dime – every vaper seems to have something that works for them. The most reasonable explanation, of course, is that it just passes and then that gets attributed to the last wild remedy used.

In a nutshell, success with these fixes will vary. You’re welcome to try them, but judge for yourself how effective (or if at all) they really are.

Hydration – this tip makes sense (and it’s probably the only one that would hold up to rigorous scientific probing!). If you’re dehydrated, you are damaging your taste buds, but you’re also accumulating PG and VG on them. Drinking water regularly will clean your palate and is generally beneficial to your health. Shock your taste buds (and your nose) – some people say that all your taste buds need to snap out of it! They suggest sucking on a lemon (really!) or smelling strong smells such as coffee to get the juices flowing again.

Proper oral hygiene is the key – always! But I’m not sure that it helps with vapers tongue, though. Still, some vapers suggest brushing your teeth and using mouthwash in order to speed up the departure of vapers tongue.

Changing your vape juice flavor – throwing your brain a curve ball every once in awhile will be a welcomed change of pace. If you’re so used to what you’re vaping that may very well be the cause of your problems. Switch things up a bit and see where that gets you. Cleansing your palate with honey – raw honey works wonders for some people. Simply take a spoon-full and suck on it. Apparently, after you’re done, you will be able to taste everything better, from your vapes to your food. I will say that I’ve tried this with ordinary processed honey and didn’t get any results – it might be different if your neighbor is a beekeeper, so give it a shot.

Vaper’s Tongue – Is It Really That Scary?

You can bet your ass it’s scary, especially if it just happened to you and you’ve never heard about it before. But, take comfort in the knowledge that a vast majority of vapers is occasionally faced with this problem. It comes and it goes, and I have yet to hear about a case where it stuck long enough to become a serious issue. Patience is key with vaper’s tongue. You can try a lot of home fixes, but in most cases, it’s the time that heals it.

So chin up – your sense of taste will be back in no time and you will soon be enjoying your vape pen or wax pen like nothing ever happened.

If you have any remedies that worked for you, make sure to drop down to the comments section and tell the world about them. Seriously, however weird you think your solution is, it can’t be worse than the guy’s who encouraged a whole Reddit thread to chew unused tampons!

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