#Bridgerton Fandom Drama

[viscountessevie]

I don’t want this to take away from the current discussion on my blog and will be reblogging my other two posts again after this is posted but I just needed to expose this clown before I left for my hiatus (post on that will be up soon!) 

It's also a good laugh and a good way for me to decompress after the last two days we've had on this blog so that I would be able to be more present to answer future incoming asks. So enjoy me clowning on this hater [also ya non-binary pal has logged off for the time being - enjoying their lunch and watching Barbie so this post, my next post and reblogs are queued!]:

Here is the text for everyone (I know the pic is quite tiny sorry!):

For someone who spends there days writing essays about how much they hate everything and everyone except Simone you can’t write fanfic can you? 😂 so not only are you a bully who now has some sort of fetish for hating strangers especially if they’re white you also can’t write fanfic 😬 yikes. I mean I didn’t expect anything less from you

Let’s unpack this, shall we?

“They hate everything and everyone except Simone”

Also first off, actually even though this is hate, I’m so glad you used the correct pronouns I appreciate that but now that’s cleared up, back to clowning on you. 

UM WHERE??? I literally love the whole cast, the only one I dislike and have since lost respect for is Nicola and I’ve never been quiet about why - she has committed and fuelled microaggressions against her co-stars of colour and as a person of colour myself, I CANNOT in good conscious still support and admire someone like that. I am allowed to dislike celebrities who have a big platform if I don’t agree with their beliefs and the way they treat people right? We’re still in a time where we hold celebrities accountable, yes??? 

you can’t write fanfic can you?

That’s YOUR opinion, my AO3 numbers - which you have prolly seen, stalker - and my other fanfic’s numbers say otherwise. 

This is 499K (give or take for rereads) number of people who disagree with you and numbers don’t lie anon. Also if you didn’t like my fic, then don’t read it??? It’s clearly not for you??

so not only are you a bully who now has some sort of fetish for hating strangers especially if they’re white

WHOOO am I bullying?? Nicola Coughlan?? She doesn’t even know I exist!! Also here’s a mirror, dear anon. Read back your comment, who’s the one doing the bullying? Also “especially if they are white” I’m sorry most of the racists and bloggers I’ve encountered who have used microaggressions have happened to be white, is that my fault?? Did I birth them??

Also ewwww I do not sexually get off on hating people, that’s gross. Please go get a dictionary and look up the word fetish please.

We already covered you saying I can’t write fanfic, again the 499K number of people disagree. My my, you are repetitive, aren’t you.

I mean I didn’t expect anything less from you

Cool story and I said what I said bro. You seemed to have already have made up your mind about me, so just block me and move on. Why go find my AO3 to leave a message there when you can just drop a good ole hate anon on Tumblr. Like you really took time out of your day, found a way to leave anon messages (I don’t use AO3 a lot so if this is common knowledge oop) and then left that on my fic in an attempt to hurt me.

You really thought you did something huh, when in fact if everyone will look at the timestamp on the pic (would have taken a bigger close up of a screenie but I had to report that comment as spam asap), it says: 28th Jul 2022, 11:27PM UTC which was at 7am for me who even is up at that time? Not me. Anyways yes, this person thought they knew me sooo well to be able to read me for filth (which they also failed to do so) but didn’t realise I’m barely on AO3 so I only saw this only A WHOLE MONTH LATER which makes me laugh harder.

Anyways anon whoever you are, you titled your comment as “Sanji Is A Bully Who Can Dish It But Can’t Take It”, well you’re a -10 but can’t come off anon to tell me all of this to my face so,,,

After all is said and done, thank you for the month old laugh before I leave and again I really do appreciate you not misgendering me and using the wrong pronouns! That’s exactly how hate should be, “Imma disrespect them as a person and their writing but not their pronouns!!”

[Btw that above sentence is not an invite to send more hate, anything else moving forward will be reported, blocked and deleted. This was just funny to respond to and helped me refocus my mind from burnout so I can be more present for the upcoming conversations!]

Oh and I made a meme for this occasion, while a month late it still works: 

Nonsense being anon hate of course but I'm pretty surprised I went unscathed this long. It's been 34 days without any, so thanks anon you broke the streak sigh shame on you.

[Though if we count when they sent it, it's only 9 days but nah they don't count in the famous words of Colin so 34 days it is! It's funnier too nsjdksk]

Anyways back to the usual programming and reblogging my last few asks before I head off to my hiatus! Hope yall had a laugh too from this 😂

#Bridgerton #Bridgerton Fandom Drama #Anon Hate #Bridgerton Asks #Nothing Becomes Queue Lord Bridgerton

[dollypopup]

I think it's interesting to look at the 'Mr. Bridgerton' scene as a backdrop for the eventual mirror scene. Firstly, in the fact that I think we've kind of misinterpreted it.

So many people are of the mind that scene's purpose to 'drag' Colin, but really, that scene has 3 primary functions. The first is to inform Colin that Penelope is aware of what he said of her, thus opening the door to clearing the air between them and providing an avenue for which Colin can apologize. The second is to establish the ground that they are currently on: Penelope has given up on the dream of Colin Bridgerton, in particular the perfect prince that can do no wrong, and has made it clear to him. It also creates distance between them that they will bridge.

But the third, and to me the most wrapped up in the mirror and the inner workings of their relationship is that it reveals how Penelope feels about *herself*. It's not necessarily an echo of what the ton considers her as, after all, we have a lot of evidence indicating that, for all intents and purpose, people aren't *unkind* about her, but rather that they ignore her. Audience members recognize this as Penelope's own shyness being the cause, she is often sitting off on the sidelines or not really talking to much of anyone, in the books she's referred to as the 'one who doesn't speak', and her LW business takes her away from being a character in the action of the ton to a bystander, kind of a self-fulfilling prophecy of sorts that perpetuates itself. Pen felt unseen so she became LW to have some power, but then LW herself must remain unseen and Penelope continues to be by design of her own making.

No, I think what it really reveals is that Penelope has incredibly low personal self esteem. We as a fandom has lauded that scene as her dragging Colin, saying that he's cruel and calling him Mr. Bridgerton is absolutely meant to create distance between them, but I don't think she's dragging him.

Because the person she is *actually* dragging here. . .is herself. And it is a general theme in her life. In Whistledown. Aloud. Even with Marina, when she complimented her, she assumes that she's lying. When Edwina says she's wearing a pretty dress, Penelope puts herself down and doesn't believe her, even when the compliment is genuine. In truth, Portia is not seen as being particularly unkind to Penelope. At least, speaking as someone who's mum was *awful* about my size and weight and outfits, Portia is. . .overall rather mild. She's not KIND and loving, not by a long shot, but she's also not targeting Penelope only. She's plenty mean and critical to Prudence, too, even to the point where she foists her off to her own cousin as a pawn piece. Penelope has low self esteem because of a lot of reasons, she's bullied by Cressida (I think a lot of girls are, she was pretty mean even to Daphne in S1) and her family isn't very tender to her, and she's not being pursued at every turn, but part of it is also her own perpetuation.

Listen to what she says "Of course you would never court me" "I embarrass you" "I am the laughingstock of the the ton". She sees *herself* as an embarrassment. She puts *herself* down. Arguably, more so than the ton does. She's meaner to herself than anyone else is, aside from Cressida. And honestly? Looking at Colin's face there. . .he is HURT that she considers herself this way. That she's projecting that onto him. Yes, he's hurt that he hurt her, of course he is, he never wants to hurt her. And yes, he's ashamed that he said he wouldn't court her the way he did and that in doing so, he validated her fears that she is unloved and unwanted, but also because. . .she already feels that way about herself. She's felt that way for years. And it's painful to care about someone, to see them as wonderful, and realize. . .they don't feel the same about themselves at all. I don't think Colin is out here feeling so wounded over the fact that she called him cruel and won't refer to him by first name anymore, but that he's most hurt by what she says about herself.

Because he *doesn't* see her the way she accuses. She says she never expected him of all people to be so cruel, but he feels the same way. He never expected her to be so cruel to *herself*. He wants to go somewhere private, not because she is an embarrassment, but because he wants to have a private conversation with her. Maybe assure her. Maybe explain himself. Maybe hash it out. But god Luke Newton's acting. . .he is *aching* for her. And it feels like he's going to do those lessons not in atonement for what he said (thank god) but to genuinely help his friend who thinks badly of herself. To lift her up. It's not about him at all, not about earning forgiveness, but about elevating Penelope. And that's. . .fuck, I just find that's just so heart stoppingly beautiful.

You can see, in that scene, how much he cares about her. How deeply and genuinely he adores her as a person. And just how painful it is for him to know he has validated, whether on purpose or otherwise, how poorly she feels about herself. How low her self-confidence really is. She is giving him a glimpse into the cracks of her heart, and when he sees them, he wants to reach out with both hands and make it feel better. Make her feel better.

After she says 'even when I change my entire wardrobe', he looks so fucking crushed. So 'don't say that'. So 'you really believe that?'. So 'God, I hate that you think that way'.

Because regardless of it all, he does love her. It's not romantic yet. It's not sexual yet. But he genuinely, truly, from the bottom of his heart, thinks she's wonderful. That was evident even in the 'purpose' scene. Every time Penelope opens up and reveals a facet of herself, he likes it. He likes her barbs and her dreams, he likes talking to her. He likes her. And he feels awful that he hurt her. And he feels awful that she's hurting herself. He loves her. He wants her to love herself.

And that's where the mirror scene comes in. Because the mirror scene isn't about sex, not really. Not entirely, at least. The mirror scene is about *intimacy*. The mirror scene is about being seen. Not just her seeing him, or him seeing her, but for Penelope to see *herself*. In a way, through his eyes. Because hers are biased rather negatively toward herself, which is evidenced in the 'Goodnight Mr. Bridgerton' scene, and in so many little moments we've already gotten where she's literally looking down on herself, feeling down. She doesn't necessarily *like* what's in the mirror, but he does. Because he likes *her*. And he wants to show her that he does. Show her that he finds her beautiful and have her recognize that in herself.

The 'Goodnight Mr. Bridgerton' scene is about Penelope revealing how she sees herself. The mirror scene is about Colin showing her how *he* sees her. The Goodnight scene is about Penelope thinking she means nothing to him, that he thinks of her the way she thinks of herself, that this is how everyone thinks of her, and the mirror scene is a direct response to that: No, he doesn't. No, he doesn't think she's embarrassing. No, he doesn't think she's a laughingstock. No, he doesn't think she's unappealing. And he doesn't think she should, either.

And he's going to show her that. Not just tell her, but show her. The mirror scene is so often a focus on Penelope, so much of Polin is in Penelope's focus, but approaching it from Colin's perspective and his motivations is so fulfilling, too. It's a glimpse into them in conversation, and a demonstrate of how Colin loves her. How Colin loves in general, openly and earnestly and altruistically. How he encourages her to be braver and more confident in herself, bolstering her because he just likes her *that much*. How he finds the most fulfillment and satisfaction in caring aloud. The mirror scene is a demonstration of his heart in reflection.

When Luke Newton said the first word that came to mind with the word 'Mirror' was 'Exposed', he doesn't just mean physically. He means emotionally, too.

God this couple is so fucking good.

#polin #colin bridgerton #penelope featherington #Bridgerton #i love them #but honestly? i think i read too deeply into them #this is the only post about them i'll keep up #but after everything i've seen in this fandom and the promos and the synopsis- i don't think these two are friends #and i think i have given them more nuance and depth than they actually will get #and so i guess they're my dream #this version of them #the version of them that loves each other deeply and sees one another and has tenderness for each other #but everyone else in the fandom was right- we won't get this #we will get penelope needing external validation through the ton's opinion and we won't get colin being a full character #we will get a story based on suffering and holding scorecards against each other #we will get groveling and cold shoulders and drama in place of real growth #i suppose it's just sad for me #because i read so much of what i've thought of these two and i *see* the love i have for them #but bton and this fandom don't have that same love #so i have to let go of that dream #and that's for the best #but as a memento: have this #i've written a lot of love letters to this pairing- consider this one of them

[crown-ov-horns]

Characters I'm madly attracted to: Daphne Bridgerton (Bridgerton)

#bridgerton #daphne bridgerton #phoebe dynevor #bridgerton edit #bridgertonedit #daphne bridgerton edit #daphnebridgertonedit #phoebe dynevor edit #phoebedynevoredit #my edit #my gifs #my gifset #bridgerton gifs #bridgerton gifset #bridgerton fandom #fictional crushes #character crushes #she's stunning i can't #bridgerton ladies #period drama #perid drama edit #perioddramaedit #period drama gifs #perioddramagif #period drama gifset #characters i'm madly attracted to

[coffeeshopcornero0]

#bridgerton #colin bridgerton #penelope featherington #tv series #fandom #love #netflix #nicola coughlan #luke newton #friends to lovers #romance #drama #❤️ #Spotify

[ispridestillasin]

So I decided to watch a bit of Bridgerton with my mother, which I'm not really interested in (I don't really like period pieces unless it's a fanfic for a ship I like) but it's a show she enjoys so I sometimes catch her watching it and join her, and literally the only takeaway from the stuff I've seen with her is that Colin, Lord Debling, and Penelope should have all been poly

#guys listen a lot of shit could have been solved if they had just been poly (says local poly relationship writer & enjoyer) #i know polin is like the Ship this season from what i've seen when i lightly check out the bridgerton fandom #but i really enjoyed the chemistry between penelope & debling. they were cute. #that scene where he asked in a roundabout way how to propose to her. it was sweet. also the way he stuttered was really cute. #i also imagined colin & debling together in a world where polyamory & queer relationships weren't frowned upon #and i think they would be cute. he & colin would have a fun dynamic because debling's similair to pen but also he still very different #and i think that seeing colin being oblivious about liking him would be cute #it would definitely add to the drama if violet didn't really understand that colin was into both pen & debling at first. but when she does. #she spends the entire time with her head in her hands because her son is so bad at recognizing his feelings. #i just think the two would be really cute if the time period wasn't. you know. very unaccepting of queer relationships. #bridgerton #penelope featherington #colin bridgerton #lord debling #alfred debling #polin #colin x penelope #pebling #penelope x lord debling #colin x penelope x lord debling #colin x lord debling #god i think i'm the only one adding to that tag. if not creating it. oh well. #please don't bother interacting with this post if you're just going to say that polin is superior or whatever. literally just block me dude #yuri's thoughts & rambles #bridgerton season 3 #bridgerton spoilers #this literally might be the only time i even use the bridgerton tag

[pensbridge]

I get so tired of the random comparisons of book to screen adaptation. Movies are not meant to be tv; tv is not meant to be books; books are not meant to be movies. Changes are relevant and also vital for there to be some sort of new and exciting interpretation over the original material. Not only are adaptations impossible to match to the 350 page books of material (and book details that would just be filler and not read the same way on screen), but it would be such a lazy attempt and lack of creative vision for a writer to transfer a story exactly as is. Adaptations are not portrayals of what once was the same story. A good script will be able to stand on it's own in some way. Books are not scripts; let's keep them that way.

#the viscount who loved me #romancing mister bridgerton #red white and royal blue #the hunger games #the ballad of songbirds and snakes #-i don't even agree with this last one/ i'm not connected enough to know or care for it #but gosh it ruins the enjoyment i had b4 #*i haven't read tvwlm although it is sad the sister relationship is sidelined for drama #rwrb #rmb #book to screen #julia quinn #casey mcquiston #books #netflix #fandom #random #other

[bohemian-nights]

yeah the suggestion that sophie should be erased is deeply annoying to. like i need male centered white women who are fujos to step away from bridgerton and benophie. Sophie being a woman, a bastard woman, and navigating her gendered oppression because of her lower class is integral to benophie. if people want lgbtq representation they can go watch another show, or better yet, create original characters and go write fanfic if they want.

There is a place for LGBT+ rep in Bridgerton, there is even a place to turn a couple of the characters bi, but specifically gender swapping any of the main love interests/protagonists just would not work, and people need to be honest about that. However, they won’t be because they are just using the excuse of the show not being “diverse enough” to not support a Black woman playing Sophie Beckett.

The reality is that Bridgerton has tried to be more diverse than most shows, but they do not have to check every single box or else the show is not “progressive” enough. That’s not how it works.

It’s not “unprogressive” to keep the most oppressed woman due to her gender and class in the eight book series a woman. Again taking rep away from women(and marginalized women at that) to give to a (white) man that way you can see two (white) dudes fucking on screen does not make you “progressive.” Trying most surely does not make you a good ally(seriously where are you people when we are actually getting bad rep?).

Just because you see Black people in a period piece that’s highly popular, in a place where you feel we don’t “belong,” that doesn’t mean that we have to give up our space to fit you inside it.

(Mind you this is a place that we created because if Shonda hadn’t adapted these books added the diversity this series would’ve never done the numbers it has. Bridgerton is a sensation because of racial diversity that isn’t steeped in racism and race. It’s neither here nor there, but we constantly create our own, everyone wants to eat off our plates, and then leave us with scraps after they’ve had their fill).

This whole discourse is just incredibly bizarre, but the thing I find the most disturbing about it is the fact that even if you want to say Sophie should be a man, Benedict doesn’t like men.

I mean this literally should be a non-issue since he has shown 0 interest in men for two seasons and he’s had plenty of opportunities to fuck them if he wanted too.

Now if the show turns around and makes him bi this season(doubtful, but I’ll humor the weirdos) he still clearly likes women too so why Sophie should get the boot is beyond me, but not surprising considering the state of fandoms.

Silently off topic, but kinda related since it comes from the same place of using the lack of prominent LGBT+ rep to justify keeping a Black woman from being Sophie.

Which brings me people who think that Masali Baduza(suspected Sophie) can’t possibly be Sophie and instead insist that she’s either related to the Stirlings(the family Francesca marrys into) or that shes a gender bent Michael.

For issue #1 people claim that Masali and Victor Ali(the man who they suspect is John Stirling) “look alike” therefore she must be playing his sister. Victor Ali and Masali don’t look alike outside of both being dark skinned Black people(the people saying they do look hella suspect🙃).

And while Masali isn’t a household name she did have her own show(Noughts + Crosses) so she’s too big to just be playing someone’s sisters on Bridgerton. Not to mention the secrecy for a side character seems extremely unwarranted.

Now for issue #2, people are using a casting call(cause at least they know that it makes no sense for Masali to be a side character) that allegedly went out two years back to say she’s gender-bent Michael.

If you believe in the casting call(a similar one went out for Kate calling for a Indian actress when she was being cast so it is on brand) it says that the actress cast will be the lead for season four. Francesca’s story most surely isn’t going to be next up(skipping over both Eloise and Benedict? Be real) and it’s also another gendered issue to where if you make Michael into a woman you are changing up the story so much you might as well created an OC.

There is plenty of evidence that suggest Benedict’s season is next, Sophie has been cast, she’ll be in s3, and even if you don’t want to believe the casting call right now, that Masali is playing her, but instead of seeing what’s right in front of them people want to say that it just can’t be.

Overall I feel like people are doing a whole lot of talking and “advocating” for nothing cause they are butthurt that Sophie doesn’t look how they want her to look.

It’s still hurtful though to see that people would rather want Sophie to be a man and take away everything she stands for than see her being played by a Black woman, but again fandoms are unfortunately weird like that.

Let me end this by saying that while my rants my sound like I have gone crazy or am trying to start some bs, I have been suffering in silence since Bridgerton came out nearly three and a half years ago so this is me breaking my silence.

Again this isn’t really about erasing Sophie. It’s about keeping Sophie from being played by a Black woman which is fucking nuts considering that a Black woman is producing this crap.

First it was how Sophie couldn’t be non-white because it would be problematic. Then after Simone was cast as Kate it was how the show had no East Asian representation or Latina rep and had “too many Black people”(where are the Black people besides Lady Danbury and Will 🙃)so Sophie could be non-white, but she should not be Black.

Now that it truly seems like a Black girl it’s how Sophie should be a man cause the show has no LGBT+ rep.

And yeah everyone deserves rep, but the fact that people have continually said that their has been enough rep for Black people as a way to silence us and push their own representation at the expense of Black people is disgusting.

I can not reiterate this enough, the one thing this shitty ass fandom has been consistent in is saying that a Black woman shouldn’t play Sophie Beckett.

All I can say is that I hope Shonda has not listened to the people who keep yelling at her to give them representation at the expense of Black people while at the same time being fucking passive aggressive whiny little anti-Black bitches to her and all the Blackish actors on the show.

#bnask #bnasks #bridgerton asks #I guess now I got to protect her too 😭 #this is all coming out in a word salad but I literally bit my tongue for months cause I didn’t want to get into more fandom drama #I’ve ripped the bandaid off and am speaking out now #sb asks

[sukibenders]

Being a woc fan of Bridgerton can be a struggle, especially when it comes to liking the poc characters on the show, especially the woc. Like I remember when s1 came out and the blatant microaggressions and just plain racism coming from this fandom was atrocious. You had people spewing very hateful things about Charlotte, Marina, and Simon and undermining the latter two's pain and trauma at the hands of the white characters---Marina was treated terribly by the Featheringtons and, whether you like Penelope or not, you cannot deny that she also played a part by releasing that letter to the Ton and Simon was violated Daphne no matter how people try to spin the story to offer her some form of sympathy (it still blows my mind that people would want to though).

S2 is just as bad (not even including how they changed the Sharma family's storyline than how it was in the books when that wasn't necessary) and the racist undertones many of the fans have towards Mary and Edwina (as well as Kate but for her it's carries more brown woman needing to be saved by a white man when Anthony is involved because a lot of you all in the fandom are quick to use this trope such as "oh, he's the only one who truly knows her"). The lack of screen time for this family really ends up hurting them to but even with that, whether you like Mary and Edwina or not, it would be a lie to deny the racism a lot in the fandom hold towards them (and how that falls onto the actresses because it was very apparent how many in the fandom couldn't let two Desi women shine without having to bring down the other and Netflix played into that too for drama) and paints every small thing they do as being terrible crimes but in the same breath will not have the same smoke for the Bridgertons, who have their own set of problems (but because they are also the main family, among other things, they are provided more grace without consequences).

#bridgerton #edwina sharma #kate sharma #mary sharma #marina thompson #queen charlotte #simon basset #like fandoms can be a very hostile place especially toward poc #and don't even get me started on some fans acting like they care about the poc characters but only still fall into the tropes i presented #im nervous for how this post will be received bc ngl when people call out the racist antics in bridgerton people love to downplay it #and that's just not right (for any fandom) #and this impacts actors too bc there should be no reason that charithra can hardly be excited about her role in the show #or how ruby had received so much hate that (probably) as a result had two breakdowns #on top of still being asked by polin and pen fans to denounce marina to uplift their white faves #dni if you can't have a calm conversation here #also seeing the creator of the show say for s3 kathony that there won't be as much angst #more happy couple scenes irks me in a way bc that amount of angst didn't have to flood s2 if they weren't so concerned with pointless drama #like the books themselves gave enough angst without the engaged to your sister plotline and such #also would have made anthony seem like less of a prick and actually respect a woman's honor but nope #don't even get me started on how it seems more common for the poc characters to have to gripe and struggle #(especially with things that....they should not be blamed for) at the hands of or as result of white characters #when in the same breath that courtesy isn't extended to said white characters #(e.g. marina having to push colin in pen's direction even though both failed her #to simon begin assaulted and then blamed for it by daphne and the narrative #to kate having to move mountains to grow (even though for most part she wasn't wrong) but don't even see anthony apologize for his actions) #all the actors especially the woc experience racism (and other forms of discrimination) from this fandom #i haven't even gotten into the shitshow from some fans towards simone and the actor who plays simon #as well as the racism the actresses for queen charlotte faced #a lot of yall need to do better

[starsifter]

So I was struck with inspiration recently for a regency era historical romance raritwi thing lol, and I made "dolls" of the two (idk what else to call them, they're bases that imma dress up lol) to dress up in regency era outfits. Yeah. The wings are on a seperate layer so I can put them on the outside of the dresses and all that. I'm so excited honestly. I'm still working on my other stuff (art requests and my infection au) but I just had to yk, I just had to. (Also if you want you can send me asks about this au because I really wanna draw more of it)

#mlp fim #mlp g4 #mlpfim #mlp #mlp fandom #mlp fanart #raritwi #rarity x twilight #mlp au #eeee #i'm excited #i'm working on writing the first chapter and everything #historical drama mlp #yes i did watch bridgerton #to see what all the hype was about because i love historical romances #and i was hit with a beam of inspiration #the ones who get it get it

[apinchofm]

Women of colour in the Bridgerton fandom + the actresses receive so much hate and it's so tiring. the antibrown and blackness in this fandom is insane - noticed some come from fans who baby the white characters and like to turn the characters of colour into character villains or hypersexualise or fetishize.

#over a fun little period drama #fandom racism #fandom sexism #adoja andoh #arsema thomas #india amarteifio #charithra chandran #simone ashley #ruby barker #regé jean page #golda rosheuvel #bridgerton #queen charlotte

[viscountessevie]

(Villainisation anon here)

[Ohh you have such an efficient way of tagging and maintaining different discussions! I am very much involved in another fandom and receive lots of asks about discourse but I somehow always manage to make a mess of tags, lol]

As for the name, I think I’ll go with 📖 anon or whatever tag you want to use. I am assuming you get a lot of anons regarding discourse so I don’t want to club myself with them.

I can totally understand your frustration regarding the lack of knowledge the general audience may have about The Sharmas. It’s frustrating when you know so much about something but cannot let it all out, especially to strangers on the internet. I have been in similar situations, and I am sorry if my ask ever made you feel that way.

I have definitely seen the word racist be thrown around quite carelessly with unclear implications, with the most recent instance being yesterday. I won’t go into the details of what was said, because maybe the person is your mutual and I don’t wish to involve you in any drama. (You may have, perhaps already seen something about it on your dash). But the words were hurtful and they invalidated my experience as a desi person watching the show. I know people can be quite vitriolic on both sides of the discourse, and it’s sad. But that’s the truth of fandom spaces - discourse is inevitable and I don’t have any ideas on what to do about it, lol.

Anyway, I hope you have a lovely day/night (if you live in India, it must be past midnight for you! It’s dinnertime for me, so I must dash. But thank you for such a healthy and respectful discussion).

Here are Bookie 📖 Anon's previous asks!

Hello again 📖 Anon - I think I shall call you Bookie for short ahahha if you're okay with that! While Villianisation/Villain Anon sounds cool af I didn't want to make you sound like a hater lol. So I dub thee Bookie 📖 Anon!

Anyways thank you for the compliment, it means a lot. Also there's no right or wrong way to tag or run a discourse blog so don't worry about yours - do what feels right for you!

Funny thing is, I never use to tag things AT ALL before I start running this blog. Hell I wouldn't even link previous posts but then I started getting more related asks and it seemed logical to give context. The Emojis started recently though and they are so fun! I think only Jett and Ring Anon have come back to my asks a few times lol. I think its cool to know where they all stand on different topics instead of me assuming every anon is a different person because Uhhh that's like over 140 (I think that's how many asks I've answered since March?) people who have been talking to me and that's a daunting thought oop.

That was a fun tangent but let's get into the meat of this post!

Thank you for being so understanding, Bookie! But I'll survive and stick to my friends' fics for wholesome Sharmas ahahah. And oh, if I could I would scream about the Book Sharmas all day but I'm not that unhinged lmao. Instead I will passive aggressively hype them and their book scenes up (I did it here also wanna make some edits with the book scene quotes tacked onto S2's scenes at some point) Also want to reassure you that you did not make me feel that way at all! It was nice to have people who like flawed Sharmas' fics to be civil and open to discussion - it was a good change from the usual drama on my dash ahahah.

That being said ohmygod Bookie, spill the tea and call them out!! Who was that?? I saw another post vagueposting Mimi and I but they weren't being 'racist', just fucking rude.

But the words were hurtful and they invalidated my experience as a desi person watching the show. I know people can be quite vitriolic on both sides of the discourse, and it’s sad. But that’s the truth of fandom spaces - discourse is inevitable and I don’t have any ideas on what to do about it, lol.

Tell me about it, the invalidation in this fandom is INSANE sometimes, I mean I'll admit sometimes I am a little guilty of it but its in the name of invalidating bigots who should be drowned out because we do not need this energy here. I do hope you're feeling better now and the words didn't get to you <3 I know I said spill the tea but if you don't want to give yourself away and get involved in the drama, I totally understand! That being said if you do want to vent about that situation, my DMs and off anon asks (I can respond to you privately!) are always open if you need them.

Take care Bookie, and yes it was ard 1am (I'm in Asia, GMT+8 btw) when I posted your second ask and fell asleep soon after ahhaha. Hope you had a good dinner and can't wait to hear from you in the future!!

#Bridgerton #Bridgerton Fanfic Discourse #Bridgerton Fandom Drama #Bookie 📖 Anon #Bridgerton Asks

[the-lady-of-misthaven]

I have dipped my toe into the Bridgerton fanadom. Yeah. Let me tell you, it reminded me why I stay away from active fandoms nowadays. One word: Drama. Been there, done that. I am gonna go enjoy my newest obsession from the sidelines.

#fandom drama #not here for it #bridgerton

[torchwood-99]

A trope I’m really not loving in period shows these days; that admittedly comes more from the fans, is that of when there is being an accepted status quo in society, and fixed expectations for women; that is marriage, motherhood and domesticity, that all women are expected to aspire to, and failure to reach it is failure on their part, the one character who is treated as needing to learn to see things from other people’s perspective, is the female character who rejects this status quo. 

Not the characters who accept this is the ideal for women, who go along with these rigid gender roles. 

In a world where domesticity is treated as every women’s dream, the non traditionally feminine character needs to learn that “Oh it’s ok to want to marriage and motherhood!” as though their hostile rejection of it is in any way threatening women who want to have families, whose dreams are held up by their world as right and honourable, and does not come from a place of actually having their options limited by attitudes towards women. Of being denied access to higher education, employment and politics, because of the “Stay in the kitchen” mentality. Which comes partially as a result of everyone else passively accepting that the best thing for women is marriage. 

Why is there so much emphasis on female characters needing to open their mind to gender roles that have been foisted on them since the day they were born? They know their virtues, they’ve had them shovelled down their throats their entire life. They’ve had these roles used against them as a weapon.

So why shouldn’t they hate them with all their being? Why shouldn’t they hate the idea of marriage and motherhood, when those concepts have been used to deny them their individuality? 

#Period Dramas #Female Characters #feminism #largely #Eloise Bridgerton #but i see this with Jo March as well #Bridgerton #Little Women #also #Arya Stark #ASOIAF #A Song of Ice and Fire #tradwife fandom

[midnightrings]

i miss last week when i was just peacefully writing ned/cat fics - now i'm back in that bee fandom's hell

#if you would've told me a year ago that the bridgerton fandom is worse than the asoiaf fandom i would've probably called you mad #and don't get me wrong the asoiaf fandom is pretty awful #but at least i can mind my business and ignore drama if i want to #that other fandom constantly tries to pull me into drama i don't even know anything about #also the hate in the asoiaf fandom is at least more sophisticated #after anons tantrum earlier i'm even more sure that the people trying to harass me on here are kids #which honestly makes the whole thing kinda embarrassing ngl

[newtonsheffield]

Okay but for a little while I've been thinking of this for a role reversal: Shy Virgin Anthony who gets embarrassed because he came in his jeans the minute he started grinding against the girl he's just started going out with. He's really embarrassed because his hands shake when he reaches for the zip for her dress and they shake when she whispers against him You can touch me if you want it's okay and he slides his fingers up her thigh.

And he's mortified, because he's 23 and the most beautiful woman is looking at him so gently when she says "You haven't really done this before have you?"

And his cheeks are burning as he shakes his head, mortified as he grabs his shirt off the floor, "Um No, I'm just gonna- I'm actually going to go. Thanks, you're great, and beautiful, and I've embarrassed myself in front of you enough for a lifetime so thank you, but I have to go."

"Anthony it's fine, I haven't really- and this is your flat!"

"I have to go!" He says quickly again, shutting the door of his flat quickly behind him and tearing off into the night, tears stinging at his eyes.

#apparently there was some drama with the picture attached to the OG ask so it's gone okay? #just stop calling me names in my ask box over it #I'm not on twitter and I didn't know #this fandom i swear I'm done #kathony #anthony x kate #kate sharma #kate sheffield #anthony bridgerton #molly’s asks and answers

[h-l-vlovesvintage]

Late night confession

(This is just another wip. OC!Baroness Gwendoline Vasenton x Anthony Bridgerton. Gwendoline has been raising her brother's daughter, after he and his wife died overseas. Warning: not proofread)

"I can't marry you, Anthony"

"Wha...why? We've been courting for two months. You've been to Aubrey Hall. Your niece knows me. My family has met your family. We're engaged to be married in three weeks. How can we not?"

"Because-" she trailed off.

"Because what? Tell me. Put me out of my misery."

"Because I love you, you idiot!" He took a few steps back. His walls slowly cracking.

"You...what" he stumbled back. She rolled her shoulders, trying to regain peace in her mind. Impossible in his presence.

"I love you. I love you too much to marry you. I know your requiremnets for a wife. And that love is not one. I can't in good contience go through this and not tell you. Now, I'll take my leave, m'lord." She sniffed back tears as she made for the door out of the parlor. Walking past him, he grabbed her wrist.

"Don't go."

"I can't stay. If I stay, I'll regret it."

"Regret what?" He leans down closer to her.

"Regret what I will do. My compusure quivers when your close." She leans up to him, their noses close to touching. "And I cannot handle a rejection from you, m'lord."

"Rejection. I wouldn't dare." Their noses touch. Gwendoline's breath catches in her throat. So close.

"Anthony, where did you dissappear off to?" The voice of Violet Bridgerton, springs the two away from each other faster than lightning. "Oh, here you two are. There have been so many guests asking about you."

"Lady Bridgerton, I apologize but I must take my leave. I am feeling rather faint and should rest." Gwendoline said hastily. She neede to get out of there. The dowager read to room rightly and nodded.

"Understandable, my dear. Anthony, you are still needed outside so I can escort Lady Gwendoline to her carriage."

Though Anthony wanted fight back, he still had his duties as Viscount despite his current circumstances.

"Yes, of course, mama. Good evening, Gwen- Lady Gwendoline." He curtly bowed, though why the formality he didn't fully comprihend at the time. He left.

Now, leaving only the two women. The younger speaks, now tears streaming down her rosy cheeks.

"I told him, Violet. I told him." The dowager's face softens as she pulls her future daughter in-law into a gentle embrace.

"Oh, dear. Now, I understand." She kindly says, stroking her back.

"He doesn't love me so why didn't he say it."

"Because he does love, Gwendoline. You should see the way he looks at you. Its like your the center of his universe."

"You can't really mean it, m'lady." She lookedat the older woman, astounded by this.

"I do mean it."

Gwen lets out a tormented sigh. "I'm such a mess. I cannot confront him now."

"That's all right my dear. He's not going anywhere. He's still your fiancé. For better or for worse, he won't back out now." She starts guiding her out of the parlor. "I'll call for your carriage and you shall go home to your niece. I will think of a clever exuse for your departure. You rest and think. But not too much. All right?"

"All right." Gwen smiled softly.

Gwen goes home. The next morning, guess who comes calling.

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Thoughts?

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