#Jason thinks Bruce knows about everything

[allthegothihopgirls]

alfred, who writes in a journal every day unbeknownst to the bats.

alfred, who's journals aren't marked by a period of time, or his own age, instead by the names of those he looks after. when dick is first adopted, and he knows this change is permanent, he puchases a new journal, despite his existing one being only 2/3 full. this one has a simple 'richard' written with a gold accent on the cover, a change from the last 8, titled 'bruce'.

alfred, who somehow makes journaling more of a logbook, albeit still personal. he's writing about himself, sure. memories of old friends, his travels, stories he's heard, things he has experienced.

but he mainly writes of them, the things they do, how they act. their character quirks that they haven't even picked up on yet themselves. the things he wishes he could tell them as a parent, instead of butler. the things they should know about those who've come before them. the regrets he has, and changes he's making. how they've molded him into a new person.

alfred, who will take all this information to the grave. until then, they stay packed in their respective boxes, some dustier than others, in the back of his wardrobe in the manor.

the contents of those journals aren't specific to each kid. everyone's within those pages. in tim's there's a lot about jason, and damian's has a lot about bruce. nothing's overly invasive in them, and the furthest it strays from the truth is when sometimes alfred admits to believing a different set of events to whatever he's been told, and even then he's probably right.

jason, who receives his journals prematurely. there's only 2, there should have been more. it's painfully obvious the cutoff, how it wasn't supposed to end there, but still it did. he receives them post-resurrection, convinced he doesn't belong in the world. his memories of robin growing fogged and becoming twisted.

he reads them and he cries, maybe it's because he forgot how much good there was in those times, or maybe it's because that's the determining moment in his new life where he decides that he really deserves and wants to live, because his existence runs deeper than being the robin who died.

frankly it's quite jarring for jason, to read about himself from another's perspective. as much as i love the idea of him and alfred getting along the best out of all the kids, he definitely distances himself for a while to process everything. he slowly creeps back though.

no one else gets to read their share until alfred's gone, and when they do it goes unspoken, no one pries to know anything outside of their dedicated journals.

jason, after hesitance and much internal conflict, drops off his own on dick's nightstand one night. receiving them back, two weeks later, is a silent affair face-to-face.

tim, similarly, on no one's accord but his own, gives jason his, to keep. he says something about how he doesn't think they were ever about him, and they seemed much more like a sequel. he also apologises, and mentions how he almost felt like he was intruding on something. but he understands now, he doesn't clarify about what.

#cass + duke have one each too #batfam #batfamily #alfred pennyworth #bruce wayne #dick grayson #jason todd #tim drake #damian wayne #batboys #the robins #batkids #nightwing #red hood #robin #red robin #dc comics #dcu #dc #gothihop speaks

[hunterofartemis7]

Pt. 12

Raven: *curled up on the couch taking a nap*

Damian: *outside on a work call*

Jason: *making food*

Steph: *runs into the kitchen* have you seen the news!?!?

Jason: uh no? And Rae’s asleep so can you lower your voice; I don’t need Damian killing us

Steph: sorry, but you need to see the news!

Jason: why?

Steph: apparently some reporter or someone was at the jail last week and heard about Ravens pregnancy and announced it!!

Jason: WHAT!?

Steph: I KNOW!

Raven: *stirring in her sleep*😣

J & S: *covers their mouths and goes to another room*

Jason: do Rae and Damian know?

Steph: no, the reporter just announced it today

Jason: fuck. What the hell do we do?

Steph: I have no idea!!

Dick: why are you two freaking out?

Steph: someone heard about ravens baby and announced it to everyone on the news and social media today!

Dick:….fuck!!!

Jason: what do we do!?

Dick: do Dami and Rae know?

Jason: no!

Dick: than we got to tell them!

Steph: Rae’s gonna be devastated and Damian will be pissed

Dick: true but they gotta know

Jason: I’m not telling them!

Steph: why not?!

Jason: cause I’m not about to make Rae cry…or wake her up, and I’m not pissing off the demon spawn

Steph: I’m not either

Dick: well I already made her upset once, I won’t again

Steph: i say we tell Bruce and he tells th—

Damian: *from outside* WHAT THE FUCK?!?

Dick:……… I have a feeling we won’t need to

Damian: *storms back inside* TODD GIVE ME YOUR GUN! IM GOING TO COMMIT A MURDER!!!

Raven: *gets startled away* what’s going on?

Damian: Gotham is about to have one less reporter that’s what!!

Bruce: *comes into the living room* Damian stop yelling and calm down. What’s going on?

Damian: some fucking reporter just announced that me and raven are expecting a baby on every form of media out there!!

Raven: what!? How!?

Damian: he fucking overheard us at the police station! He made a whole thing about the baby being a bastard and I’m not even going to say what he said about you!

Raven:………..

Jason: if you won’t than I will. *pulls up the article*…okay I’m gonna kill him

Dick: what did he say?

Jason: he called raven a “gold seeking whore, who only got pregnant to trap Damian and get his money.”

Raven: *in tears* that’s not true! I’d never do such a thing especially to the man I love!!😭

Jason: oh we know that, and we’re gonna make sure this bastard knows that as well!

Selina: *heard the conversation* okay anyone else who wants to break the no killing rule meet me in the car in 5 minute!

Damian: gladly!

Bruce: okay everyone chill! We aren’t killing anyone!

Damian: give me one good reason why!?

Bruce: you really think you won’t be immediately arrested for murder!?

Damian: I don’t care!

Bruce: you will when you can’t raise your baby from prison!

Damian: I’ll make sure they don’t find the body!

Jason: same!!

Bruce: okay no!! Here’s what we’re going to do! Damian, you are going to chill and comfort your fiancé now!

Damian: *sees how upset Rae is and immediately drops everything and pulls her into his arms, rubbing her back and trying to calm her down*

Raven: *crying into his chest*

Jason: and the rest of us?

Bruce: we are going to get some ibuprofen and vodka cause it won’t be long till the press is banging on the door, and all our phones are blowing up from social media asking about the baby

Jason: that’s your plan?

Bruce: it is till raven and Damian have calmed down enough to talk about what they want to do next with the information

#damian x raven #damirae #raven dc #raven roth #raven teen titans #damian wayne #robin damian #jason todd #tim drake #dick grayson #stephanie brown #bruce x selina #selina kyle #bruce wayne #pregnancy

[ashoss]

stephanie & bruce fic recs

for @peachie-wren13 :DD

Permutations & Hinterlands - cabezas_de_vaca

steph & bruce

7.5k words, 1 chapter

summary:

She and Bruce are complicated (not bad complicated, not wrong complicated, just complicated, because he isn’t her father and will never be her father and yet he sort of also is) but he cares. It gets lost sometimes, under the demands of Gotham, but it’s there.

And so, she just asks him. “Do you want to go to Colorado with me?”

Or: Bruce, Steph, and a road trip

* heed the tags !! angsty

dont wanna long post this so more under the cut :)

sweet child o’ mine - Nokomis

steph & bruce, steph & alfred

4,4k words, 1 chapter

Summary:

Steph said cheerfully, “Bruce, from now on, consider yourself in possession of one Steph-mom.”

“Absolutely not,” Bruce said.

Steph took a bite of her cake, undeterred.

A Softer Gotham - Hinn_Raven (series)

steph & bruce, time travel

12.2k words, 3 works

summary: One night makes all the difference. Especially a night when Stephanie Brown, in the wrong dimension, interferes in a mugging.

though your eyes will need some time to adjust - popsunner

steph & bruce

4.4k words, 1 chapter

summary:

“I think…” Stephanie takes a deep breath, “I think I’m bad.”

“I don’t.”

“So what, I’m just supposed to believe you?”

“I am Batman.”

Stephanie snorts, “Yeah, you are… but what if I’m still bad?”

“Then I forgive you.” _______

Or: Stephanie and Bruce, figuring it out

Tuck Me In - OberonBronze

bruce & his kids (big on jason, but it does have cute scene w the other ones esp steph)

14.1k words, 1 chapter

summary:

Bruce Wayne and his long-standing habit of tucking his kids into bed.

Galas Suck - dottie_dc (dottie_wan_kenobi)

steph & bruce

1.9k words, 1 chapter

summary:

When she doesn’t respond, he looks down to her face, finding her staring in the direction of the doors they came in through. “Something on your mind?”

He’s really asking, why did you come and get me? If it’s just nerves, she would’ve been better off with one of the others. No, it must be something else.

Steph blinks, turning her gaze upwards. Never one to back down, she meets his eyes long enough for him to see she’s not in any distress, at least. “Just thinking.”

“About?”

“I don’t know,” she mumbles. “Everything. Nothing.”

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Written for the Gen Batfam Christmas Stocking 2019, for the prompt "Wayne Gala"

the early robin gets the worm - deargalileo

bruce & his kids

7k words, 1 chapter

summary:

bruce loves all of his children equally. its just when he has to wake them up, that there's an issue.

aka; the five times bruce tries to wake up his kids, and the one time that he doesn't.

DON’T YOU CRY, DRY YOUR EYES. - orpheusaki

steph & bruce

4.8k words, 1 chapter

summary:

After inhaling her food before Bruce's even halfway through his vanilla milkshake, Stephanie seems to have sobered up a little. She's looking less green, and more like she's trying to develop x-ray vision and look into Bruce's soul.

Or maybe she's still drunk, because she very suddenly and very bluntly tells him, "I used to wish you were my dad," drowning her chips into a little pot of ketchup.

Bruce pauses. He slowly drops the chicken nugget he was about to put in his mouth — since now is probably not the time to complain about how the nuggets are a little dry today.

(Bruce Wayne is not Stephanie Brown's father, not at all.)

*tbh anything by orpheusaki is gonna be an amazing read, ive loved all the fics ive read by them <333

Have I Told You About Minnie? - Hinn_Raven

steph & bruce, bruce & his kids

4.6k words, 1 chapter

summary:

After you’ve known Matches Malone long enough, you get used to him telling you about his kids. Not that his kids know about it.

too young to be taken seriously, too old to believe all this hypocrisy - Hinn_Raven

steph & jason & bruce

5.7k words, 1 chapter

summary:

When Crystal Brown goes into rehab, leaving Stephanie in the sole custody of her father, Steph decides to run away from home, and meets Jason Todd, who decides that she is the best little sister ever.

or:

"the dark knight is beaten up by children on the anniversary of his parents death... tragic"

theres not a lot of steph and bruce fics and it makes me sad :((

btw i have a google doc with a shitttttt ton of fics lol. its some recs ive been asked for so hope yall enjoy :)

#stephanie brown #steph brown #bruce wayne #fic recs #ash’s ramblings

[shewhowillrise]

DC x DP

Jason never made it to the Lazarus pit or the league of assassins.

Bruce gave him that excuse for his green eyes and short temper.

Jason knows he didn’t crawl out of his grave with the giant Y that scars his chest.

Jason knows he’s a revenant.

Jason knows he needs to kill to stay sane. To stay whole.

A soul sucker they called him.

Jason agreed not to kill, because he misses his family. No matter how much he starves himself, it’s worth it to get Dick’s hugs, experience Tim’s genius, see Cassandra’s award winning performance, to help Damian experience a childhood.

Jason didn’t realize Bruce doesn’t know what he is. Jason didn’t realize Bruce meant Black Gate when he said he’d take him in the next time he killed. Jason didn’t realize Bruce had no idea about the anti ecto acts.

Jason swore to stay in line, so he’d never end up on that metal table again.

#dc x dp #dp x dc #dcxdp #dpxdc #dc x dp prompt #dp x dc prompt #jason todd #Jason thinks Bruce knows about everything #(the anti ecto acts #the fact that until Joker is dead Jason must feast on souls #the reason Jason doesn’t say at the manor is because Bruce would be investigated for housing an ecto entity #that Jason starts decomposing if he doesn’t kill and consume) #Jason thinks Bruce told his siblings it was the Lazarus pit bc he think Bruce doesn’t want to tell his siblings he’s an illegal entity #Jason thinks Bruce hides this bc the others would turn on him #meanwhile the whole family has no idea any of this is happening

[piedpiperart]

I see a lot of posts about Danny seeing Jason and immediately thinking he’s a baby ghost and wanting to adopt him but what if it’s the other way around?

What if Jason sees Danny and is hit with oh my god that’s a baby, who left a baby unattended out on the street?? He needs help, gotta protect him, mine, yeah he’s mine now, I got u lil guy don’t worry

Meanwhile 15 yr old Danny is like um hi?? And promptly gets kidnapped. But he just lets it happen because he’s actually feeling the safest he’s ever felt in his life with this guy, and Danny’s core immediately recognizes Jason as parental figure and just relaxes Danny 100%

Jasons feeling like Danny is a helpless baby while Danny feels safe, protect, calm, safe, relax, and he just lets Jason take him home. Neither are really sure why or what is going on with them but they’re not gonna stop it.

I think it’s because Danny’s own parents kinda suck and any other ghost that he’s interacted with he’s had to fight in some capacity or has been spooked by them. Jason’s the only one who 1) wanted to parent him and 2) has good vibes. Danny’s usually waiting for fights to happen and he’s very stressed. Jason calms him down so much he probably falls asleep before they even get to Jason’s apartment, full trust that Jason will take care of him.

Meanwhile Jason never really connects with his pit side, but really wants to find some way to have a truce. Cue Danny, and both Jason and the Pit turn to protectiveness and so the rage becomes more protection and Jason yk, might be kinda lonely and wanting something to take care of. He was probably thinking about getting a cat and not a kid but he’s not complaining

#Jason asks Alfred how to care for a baby and the whole batfam panics #they think he adopted/had an actual baby human child #they panic buy a bunch of baby stuff and parenting books and make a room for the kid in the manor on the chance that they come over #Bruce is proud but also wanting to know everything about the situation #Alfred is like how old is the child #Jason’s like ‘he’s so small’🥺😭 #Danny is 15 but so very short compared to 6+feet tall Jason #bats storm Jason’s apartment to find a small tired teenager sleeping on the couch with a bunch of blankets #they’re a little disappointed it’s not a baby but still happy for Jason #bats are like that’s not a baby #Jason’s like yes he is 😭❤️ #danny phantom #Jason Todd #dc x dp #undead dad #Jason adopts the ghost king lol #does that make him king and Danny prince?? #I think jason would be older since he died before Danny so he’s been dead longer and this an adult while Danny had only been dead a year #idk how it works but it works okay #dcxdp

[torchstelechos]

Say what you will about the DC timeline but we all know the truth, Jason Todd uses AO3 and has an account despite not understanding these new fangle technological advancements (hes fucking with Tim he understands what cookies are, it pisses off Tim more than anything else Jason has done)

#jason todd #tim drake #batfam #look I just think that Jason would use the ''I was dead when this was made'' excuse to get out of being forced to join a GC #and then it kind of snowballed into him not understanding what an ''email'' is #despite the fact that Talia def showed him and taught him everything he needed to know including technology #now hes just fucking with Tim while updating his 500K ao3 masterpiece fanfic that Tim has no evidence is real #only Babs knows and Tim is desperately trying to find evidence its the only case that Tim is literally failing at #Dick keeps bugging Tim in showing Jason how to use the computer upstairs and Jason somehow breaks Tim's phone. Twice. #Damien also catches on and does it to Tim too but it backfired in Dick trying to teach him instead #now hes also stuck in doing it #Its a whole ass shitshow that Bruce doesnt even know is happening until Jason uses the batcave computer and Tim fucking tackles him #while screeching about evidence #Bruce calls up harley afterwards to ask if she would be willing to do sessions with RR #its a whole thing

[thisiswhereikeepdcthings]

Bernard is the one who handles the spiders. Tim can handle many things, but spiders is not one of them

He can’t handle them *well.*

He, of course, protests this statement. C4 and swords stolen from his brother are perfectly acceptable solutions, Bernard

#tim drake #bernard dowd #I’m totally picturing a Bernard that doesn’t yet know their identities #he just sees Tim show up with a sword in one hand and c4 in the other #where’d you get that? he asks #Tim: I borrowed it from damian and Jason #Bernard: #Bernard: yeah okay #Tim accidentally mentions something about the council of spiders #Bernard: I don’t think spiders have a council #oh just you wait Bernie boy #Tim’s going to give your little conspiracy theory heart everything it could ever desire #now I want bernard to find out pretty much everything especially the league of assassins and Ra’s al ghul #but then come to the absolutely wrong-est conclusions possible #Ra’s would have a conniption #Tim would think it was hilarious #Bruce would ask Tim to please stop antagonizing the league of assassins #Tim would flip him off but Bruce put in his token protest so he’s done his duty #Jason would volunteer his services in the continuing antagonizatikn efforts #Steph would be watching all of this with popcorn #sorry I got way off track #I too do not care for spiders and feel like explosions are a valid strategy

[thejasontoddarchives]

Jason Todd, eepiest boy in the dcu

Why’d they add a wig/hair to the robin mannequin …..

Batman: The Adventures Continue (2020)

#Bruce we get it you miss Dick but isn’t this a bit overkill #jason todd #red hood #batman: the adventures continue #btac #dc #anyway #if you’ve seen my previous posts about this comic you’d probably know what ‘backstory’ I’m talking about #but even when they did Jason Todd dirty to favor Tim I’d say Jason got a compelling enough new backstory with a lot of potential #so if the writers felt the need to copy bit for bit from Jason maybe even they deemed there was nothing interesting enough to pull from Tim #and his backstory. but I think what should annoy you more is #their idea that anything new they could’ve come up with for Tim still wouldn’t top ripping off of Jason lol #also. WHO has ‘monopoly on batfamily joker trauma’? #cause last I recall Jason doesn’t even have monopoly over his own life and death #the way they make everything about it about Bruce’s suffering instead #and the fact that Jason can’t fucking have his way with the joker because that’s not how BRUCE thinks it should be done?? #not to mention when Dick beat the clown to death because he thought Tim was killed (and that was his last straw after Jason) #guess who resuscitated him! starts with a ‘Bru’ and rhymes with caboose #the ONLY person with a monopoly on batfamily joker trauma is Bruce actually lmfao

[oifaaa]

Jason 25 years in the past would also have to deal with Alfred in his 20s-30s. I can not believe Alfred was a nice normal young man when young.

I mean alfreds background is that he's ex mi5 Shakespearian actor who decided to for some bizarre reason take up his dad's job as the Wayne butler after he died young alfred is definitely weird but he was also thinking about quiting being the Wayne butler and was only stopped by Martha and Thomas dying and needing to look after Bruce I wonder if he'd even stick around if there was someone else already willing to look after him

#ask #anon #i think if jasons plan was to raise bruce himself #hed be smart enough to get everything ready before the waynes died #so all the paper work saying in case of death jason is the next legal guardian #and honestly im not sure how hard alfred would fight #i know its kinda a grey area #but i think at most #alfred was only working for the wayns #for about 5 years before they died

[rmbunnie]

Red Hood Characterization

This is really long so I'm putting a cut here, I've been thinking about Jason Todd's character motivations and the question of whether or not his actions are based in a Moral Code (I don't think so, not to say he's without any morality) and I talk about that in more depth here.

I saw someone say on here that Titans: Beast World: Gotham City was some of the best Jason Todd internal writing they'd seen in a while, and I've been a Red Hood fan for 8 years or so now? pretty much since I read comics for the first time, so I went and checked out and I thought it was good! The way the person I saw talking about it as if it was rare and unusual made me wonder though, because as well-written as i thought his stances on crime were, there wasn't really anything in it that went against the way I conceptualize Jason?

This kinda plays into a larger question I've been thinking about for a while with Jason though, which is that, do people think that the killing is part of a fundamental worldview that motivates him a la batman, and that worldview is the reason he does the things he does?? Because 8 years ago i was a middle schooler engaging with fiction on the level that a middle schooler does, so I simply did not put much thought into it beyond "poor guy :(" but ever since I actually started trying to understand consistent characterization, I don't really see Jason as someone who's motivated by a moral code in his actions the way batman or superman is!

tbh my personal read is that he's a very socially-motivated guy, his actions from resurrection to his Joker-Batman ultimatum in utrh always seemed to me like every choice made leading up to his identity reveal was either a. to give him the leverage and skill necessary to pull off his identity reveal successfully, or b. to twist the knife that little bit more when he does let Bruce find out who he is. Like iirc there's a Judd Winick tweet like "yeah tldr he chose Red Hood as his identity because it's the lowest blow he could think of." And I think that's awesome, I think character motivations rooted so deeply in character's relationships and emotions are really fun to read! I also think it's where the stagnation/flatness of his character comes from in certain comics, because if his main motivation is one event in one relationship that passes, and he is not particularly attached to anything in his life or the world by the time that comes to pass, it's a little harder to come up with a direction to go with the character after that, because there isn't much of a direction that aligns with something the character would reasonably want? But I do think solving this by saying "all of the morally-off emotionally driven cruelty he did on his way to spite Batman was actually reflective of his own version of Batman's stance that's exactly the same except he thinks it's GOOD to kill people" isn't ideal. To be fully honest, it seems to me like he never particularly cared one way or the other about killing people to "clean Gotham of crime," he just did everything he could to get the power necessary to pull off his personal plans, and took out any particularly heinous people he encountered along the way (like in Lost Days.) Not to say I think the fact he killed people keeps him up at night anymore than everything else in his life events, I just never really thought he was out there wholeheartedly kneecapping some dude selling weed or random guy robbing a tv store for justice.

Looping wayyy back to my question, Is this (^) contradictory to the way he's written/the overall average perception of the character? Because like I enjoyed his writing in Beast World i have zero significant issue with anything there, I just didn't believe it would be a hot take, like yeah, that is Jason. It's been a while since I've read utrh and lost days, but I don't think my takeaway directly contradicts either of those too bad iirc. Idk all this to say I think Jason killing and being alright with killing is an obvious and objective fact, but i guess i've always seen it as more of a practical tactic than a moral belief, and I think taking the actions made during the lowest points of a character's life where he is obsessively focused on this ONEEEE thing and trying to apply it as a Motivating Stance to everything he's done after that, doesn't really follow logically for me.

#edit: i am so so open to discussion and disagreement on this but please try to have something substantial to say. god bless! #like ofc jason kills but to me it was less “everyone I've ever killed deserves death objectively” #and more “when people are dead they stop doing things like heinous atrocities and trying to kill me" #i don't even think he wanted the joker dead (only) because he thinks he objectively morally deserves death #although the joker is one of the most extreme cases possible and he if does think that he's VERY justified #i really do think it was just about bruce #and wanting bruce to avenge him to show he loved him and he mattered and wanting his dad to give him security #all the killing was about the clown and everything with the clown was about bruce #i've NEVER forgotten the bit in lost days where he has the joker tied up at gunpoint and doesn't kill him #i think if it was only about a moral greater good situation he would have taken him out then and there #if you disagree i'd love to hear why provided you can be civil and not an jerk #also if you disagree PLEASE PLEASE put screenshots and comic issues if possible #i'd love to check them out and form my own stance on them #just know that if you say like. battle for the cowl. or the Tom King batman annual or something i probably won't care too much #comic characterization is ever-changing and inconsistent i truly believe that the best thing to do is just read the important stuff #and try to form your own stances from there #because there's never gonna be 100% of comics involving a character that align with each other perfectly and that's just a given #jason todd #red hood #dc comics

[jasontoddenthusiastt]

Yeah, people like to think that (adult) Jason’s snarky, cutting, and unapologetic post crisis characterization and the (mostly) “watered down”, docile personality he’s had from N52/rebirth onwards are irreconcilable, and that the shift was just an editorial decision with the intent of marketing him as a “likeable” hero.

While that last part might be true, have they considered that textually it makes perfect sense that being consistently in contact with an abuser just does that to a person. Wears them down until they feel like nothing but a husk, without any discernible direction or opinions of their own. If it isn’t completely burnt out yet, they (consciously or unconsciously) suppress that part of themselves that thinks independently either for self-preservation or to keep the peace. Considering anyone, even “mentally strong” people could fall victim to mental abuse, it’s actually pretty realistic imo.

#kelseethe #like what do you mean the shift ‘makes no sense’ #have you even met Bruce #he is a hell pit of darkness that sucks the life out of everyone who cares enough about him to put up with all of his problems #okay maybe that’s a bit of an exaggeration but #even the most headstrong of people would wither away if they spent years trying to love and care for someone as volatile as him #that much is true #in other words I think Gotham war should be a wake up call for Jason and he should start doing everything in his power to fuck with Bruce #And then cut him off entirely #though nothing he could come up with would hold a candle to Bruce ‘God of torture’ Wayne #Bruce’s actions actually make perfect sense #You become so obsessed and fixated with torture and you genuinely glorify it #To the point that’s all you know how to do even when you’re trying to do good #this is magnificent I love it #and will continue to so long as Jason is fucking fuming after this #anyway even at his most extreme Jason was never a terrorist-level threat lol #like you know there’s a difference between #‘I'm going to do what I want and you're going to accept it. you can keep doing whatever it is you convince yourself is right though’ #and seeing someone who disagrees with you then spending years wanting and trying to destroy their ability to disagree as a whole #right? #and yikes. with the power and resources someone like Bruce has? so dangerous.

[xysidhequeen]

Did Jason open up his trauma to Jazz? Since she is the group team mom

Oh my Ancients, yes. She cracked that boy open like a walnut. It took a bit, but Jazz reminds him somewhat of Barbara and Harley, so he warmed up to her fairly quickly overall. She really taught him what it's like to have a big sibling(sorry, I love Dick but he was a shit older brother before Jason died).

Jason will talk to Jazz about things he'd never say to anyone else. He actually opens up to Ember and Kitty too, but they're more for when he wants someone to cry with and to have get all enraged on his behalf. Jazz is who he talks to when he wants to fix it.

It wasn't always like that. He had to learn how to differentiate. Had to learn when he needed help, when he had things that needed to be fixed. He had to unlearn the emotional constipation and phobia of talking about his feelings he learned from Bruce too. But Jazz is used to dealing with teenage boys who won't admit they're hurting even on pain of death. She's good at subtly working their pain out and helping them confront it. (She learned a lot from helping Danny and from her Psych classes so she's more crafty about it too)

Jazz is one of the biggest reasons Jason is as stable and emotionally healthy as he is. He's not healed completely. He won't be until he gets closure with Bruce and the Joker. And there's some things that will always stick around. Trauma leaves scars. But without Jazz, we wouldn't have the Jason we do in TKAHRK we'd have someone far closer to the Jason from UTRH.

#zee answers #dp x dc #danny phantom #dc x dp #dpxdc #dp x dc crossover #the king and his red knight #the king and his red knight au #tkahrk #tkahrk au #jason todd #Jazz is a QUEEN and a GODDESS #shes a fucking miracle worker #I also mention in the story she helped him settle on his vigilante name. they went through weeks of discussing it #arguing over reclaiming a name and if it would trigger him and if the message was worth it if he was only picking it for revenge #or to hurt Bruce. Jazz was hughly critical and really made Jason THINK about it. they settled on the name and i explained why #But Jazz knows everything. more than even Danny knows about Jason. Jazz is the person Jason cant keep secrets from and never does #Jason is a mama's boy but Jazz is his mom here. #honestly tho if Jazz ever meets Bruce or the Joker in a dark alleyway its going to be on SIGHT she will throw all the hands #like she honestly HATES the Joker for what he did and Bruce is skating on thin fucking ice where shes concerned #hahahaha bruce run when she finds out that Tim is being negelected and you didnt notice

[unboundbnha]

I’m writing a Jason Todd fic that has everything I want. The foundation of the fic is love: it’s Bruce’s love for his long-lost son. But it’s love that’s gone wrong. It’s love, but it’s love for someone who’s gone (or never existed in the first place). It’s Bruce’s fear — of losing the people he loves, of losing what makes him feel like he’s making the right choices, of feeling completely lost, because admitting that he’s making a mistake, making MANY mistakes, well. That means he’s failed. He can’t fail. Not in this. Not again.

This fic is about love: one person begging the other to see them, to love them as they are, to help them in the way they need. The other person is suffocating the first because they love them. They love them so much and just want them to be happy, but happiness to them has a certain look. Happiness can only be achieved in the right way. It’s horrible and painful and frightening and sad. It’s a story about love. It’s a horror. It’s a ghost story. Don’t you see? In the end, it’s all about love. And how sometimes the people who love us are the ones who kill us.

#jason Todd #bruce wayne #red hood #batman #Zilla’s things #guys you don’t even know I’ve had this fic rotating in my head for YEARS now #I love horror. I love love. I love love that’s horror and horror that’s love #Bruce loves his son. he loves him enough to hurt him. #jason loves his father. he wishes bruce loved him back. #they’re two lines that no longer run parallel to each other #but bruce is willing to Fix That. #he loves his son. he loves his son so much that he’s willing to force him to fit his ideals #the tree grew crooked in his eyes. so he will go in and fix it. regardless of jason begging him not to. #jason begs bruce to accept him as he is and bruce says ‘’but I can fix you. I can make you as you were.’’ #jason has fundamentally changed and bruce wants to scrape him out and mold him into what HE wants #because BRUCE thinks he knows best. he HAS to know best. if he doesn’t know best than maybe he’s wrong. #and if bruce is wrong? what else is he wrong about. was he wrong about the batarang? #he can’t think about it. physically can’t. if he lets that doubt in it’s the end of everything #so instead he just. slowly destroys his son. in the name of love. #(this is a gen story with no shipping and no canonical LGBT+ themes but it’s also a VERY queer-coded story) #(and 100% not at all a parallel to my life NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE) #(being suffocated by people who love you? who think they know the best for you regardless of what you say? #loving those people even though they hurt you? begging for them to see you as you are? BEGGING for them to accept you? #and instead being met with ‘’let me fix you until you fit the idealized version I project over your childhood.’’ #‘’let me fix you so you can be happy in a way I can accept.’’ #‘’let me fix you. we can be happy again. at the cost of you.’’ #HAHAHAHHHAHAHAAHAHAHA. anyway.)

[hauntingblue]

Also really on the fence about the red hood gotham war tie in bc jason seems veery out of it. Like in the man who stopped laughing he seems more stable and critical idk (as in he just goes hard against the joker) but here he is beating a henchman to death bc he knocked out a cop? And the whole henchmen debacle... I mean it makes sense that in the batman comic they are seen as someone in need who do this job bc they have no other choice but in the red hood one henchmen are evil people who help villains do evil plans.... but again... Jason's father..... I feel like they forgot jason's duality. Like he gets why they do it but knows they shouldn't

#i mean in tfz and everything jason protects cops/security too but not like this lmao (bc he physically he couldnt beat his teammates mayb?) #i mean him stepping away from catwoman is good bc jason shouldn't be on either side. truly none of them should be on either side #bc catwomans plan is dumb and bruce is going insane so... #the whole training henchmen for selina bc he wants clues about the joker IS GOOD but like not the method #talking tag #jason todd #red hood #gotham war #fuck it main tags #i wanna se what people think lmao #<- me knowing this is getting 2 notes

[nighhtwing]

i know people have Thoughts about the waynes’ level of fame and either they’re kardashian level popular or just some rich 1%ers and only bruce is the recognizable one out of all of them but i think y’all are forgetting important bits like 1. gotham would definitely know all the waynes bc… well… gotham 2. bruce is attractive. and a playboy. i cannot stress this enough 3. he adopted kids who either have parents who died tragically, did die tragically, or have mysterious origins and 4. u cannot underestimate the appeal of a graying middle-aged kind rich celebrity to the masses

so bruce’s not kardashian level bc that would require…so much invasive paps to be in his life and he wouldn’t risk their identities like that but also at LEAST all of gotham can easily name all the wayne kids

#gotham #gotham city #bruce wayne #batfam #comics #dc #text #tais toi lys #every single wayne kid has an interesting backstory (or is so mysterious that they don’t have one) that gothamites… will definitely know #and considering WE has its fingers in everything in gotham… u can’t walk two feet without encountering the wayne name #the kardashians are too attention seeking to be a true comparison but brucie wayne has built himself a healthy reputation #but it’s not like they’re … idk rockefellers 😭 old money but can’t place a name to a face unless ur Part of that world #I JUST THINK GOTHAMITES WOULD KNOW ALL THE WAYNES AND OUTSIDERS WILL KNOW GENERLIZATIONS ABOUT THEM #(EG BRUCE’S PARENTS DIED. DICK’S A CIRCUS BOY WHOSE PARENTS DIED. JASON DIED. ETC) #* #brucie wayne

[starlooove]

I rlly liked red hood the hill bc besides the gift it completely ignored everything else with the batfam which to meeee I’m taking it as the hill has been overlooked by the bats forever (see Orpheus rising) so yeah nobody there gives a fuck about those people and jason knows better than to bring that shit over there

#genuinely tho #I dislike the trend rn of simplifying Jason and Bruce’s issues and making it seem like Bruce was nice and accepting all along and Jason just #needs to get with the program #like the fanficication of that and the Damian Bruce issues or Damian tim issues or even Dick and bruce issues #where everything comes down to the kids being insecure and Bruce being bad at communicating #which has always been PART of the main issues but using that as the crux and lens through which a solution will be acheived is a stretch #a stretch only made in fix it fics that is picked up by ppl who dont read shit and then writers who dont read dont care and get a check #THIS IS MY ISSUE WITH WHERE IT SEEMS BATFAM IS GOING THAT IS NOT AN ISSUE I HAVE WITH RE #NOT ABOUT RED HOOD THE HILL #back to red hood the hill #i DO like them #playing off how jason has always been able to relax there #with a community that has eachothers back #and the flip from #his early red hood days to seeing dana go that path is soooo #what i find interesting tho as that he positions himself as support and backup more than a deterrant #like yes he does try to talk her down a lot but most of the time hes living his life with a worried eye on her #and i think it shows to how he reacted to ppl (bruce) being heavy handed with him #and u know i love the batfam repeating awful cycles shit i think its very interesting that this is one jason didnt repeat #maybe bc hes so close to the feeling or that dana isnt to him what he was to bruce or even that hes just relaxing and thinking clearly and #above all trusts her #most toxic fun future would be for her to break that trust and him to go crazy but thats a diff rant #anyways my entire summary for jasons character is that THAT is what good coochie does to a nigga #carmen thank you for your service another crazy off the street 🙏🏾 #red hood and the hill #oh. still no Orpheus mention #no it doesn’t hurt less anytime 💔 #Jason Todd