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fluffyartbl0g · 1 year
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THE DEN DEN MUSHI IS REPLICATING IMU’S RIDICULOUSLY TALL CROWN HAHAHAHA. ITS SO STUPID I LOVE IT XD
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purplehairedwonder · 1 year
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Chapter 1086: Connecting the Dots
It’s been a few chapters since my last write-up, but I couldn’t resist the lore of this chapter.
First things first: the cover page is absolutely adorable.
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I especially love Luffy’s and Chopper’s reflections in the puddle. So cute.
Okay, onto the chapter itself. Reverie comes to an end with most attendees none of the wiser of the malicious goings on right under their noses.
We see various parties getting away from Mariejois by stowing away. This panel hit me particularly hard:
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Sabo is visibly broken up about witnessing Cobra’s death, which is at odds with his reaction back in chapter 1083:
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Honestly, it’s a relief to see that Sabo was affected by Cobra’s death since he seems so cold talking about the death of someone both the Revs and audiences knew to be a good man. 
Speaking of Sabo, the Gorosei’s discussion about him is quite interesting.
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They use the phrase “checkered fate,” which we’ve seen used repeatedly to describe those who carry the D, including
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It also feels related to the flashback in 1085:
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Sabo seems to be influenced by the Will of D. as much as any of the Ds that surround him.
Meanwhile, Imu orders the destruction of Lulusia using a Vegapunk invention called Mother Flame. 
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This is interesting because we saw in the MADS cover story how Vegapunk was focused on peaceful inventions. He talks about creating an energy source that will be accessible to everyone--thus eliminating conflicts over natural resources.
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Perhaps Mother Flame is the result of that research. 
Many of us theorized that Uranus was used to wipe out Lulusia, but Dragon argues that if the WG had an Ancient Weapon, why wait until now to use it?
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What if, like the mecha that is defunct in Egghead, Uranus needed a power source? And Vegapunk’s research into energy allowed them to finally power up the Ancient Weapon?
That would also fit the parallels between Vegapunk and Einstein, as Einstein’s work laid the foundation for the creation of nuclear weapons despite his pacifist tendencies.
So, Imu orders the destruction of Lulusia because it’s nearby, and the other Gorosei are... fine with it. They even try to justify it.
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It’s cold and cruel.
We also get names and see the planet theme continuing with Jupiter, Venus, Mercury, Mars, and Saturn from left to right. Interesting that they are also called “Warrior Gods.”
Imu is also focused on retrieving Vivi, who we now know is a D.
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What does Imu want with Vivi specifically? Mysteries to chew on!
Meanwhile, MORE SEPAPHIM.
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Finally, the Doffyphim! Crocophim looks almost sad, which is interesting.
So, we’ve seen Seraphim for all the original Warlords, right? So, are we getting them for any of the others? Blackbeard? Law? Buggy? Weevil? Honestly, I’ll be very surprised if we don’t see a Law Seraphim since Law’s not allowed to have nice things and the importance of the Ope Ope no Mi is directly referenced in this chapter.
We get a bit more insight into Imu thanks to Iva:
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Which ties back to Cobra saying he recognized the name. Now we have a family name: Nerona. My first thought was Nero, who was Emperor of Rome at the time of the Great Fire of Rome, which destroyed a large portion of the city. (Remember, Vegapunk’s potential energy source was called Mother Flame.)
Iva’s line about “the world we know today was created 800 years ago” brings me back to this panel from earlier in the chapter:
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Particularly Mars’ comment in the middle about “The world moves at the will of the creator.” This seems to imply that Imu was one of the founders of the World Government--making him a creator of the world as we know it today.
Of course, that leads to the question of how he could be alive for 800 years. Iva’s out there like
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connecting all the dots like the rest of us.
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It’s long been theorized that there had to be someone in the series who had the Perpetual Youth Surgery performed on them, and Imu seems to be the best candidate. 
There have actually been multiple mentions of the immortality operation recently, as if to remind us that Law’s fruit can do that. Remember what Blackbeard said after defeating Law? 
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So yes, the fact that Law got away from this encounter matters because a) he’s a D., and b) his fruit is coming into play again.
So, theory time. I know a lot of people worry about Law using the Perpetual Youth Surgery on Luffy, but I don’t think that will happen; among many reasons, Luffy wouldn’t want it, even if Law offered. 
However, if Imu has had that surgery and is now immortal, there needs to be a way to defeat him. What better way than the current user of the Ope Ope no Mi reversing the operation and making him mortal again?
Okay, this has gone way longer than I planned, so final thing:
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So, this is interesting considering what we learned about Shanks from Film Red and its accompanying media. Shanks, we’re led to believe, is a Figarland, so this is likely a relative--father? Grandfather? Uncle? (Also, the hair that looks like a crescent moon? Amazing.)
Moreover, he is the former king of God Valley, which is where Roger’s crew found baby Shanks in a chest and adopted him. That God Valley flashback is going to be mind-blowing, isn’t it?
It’s also noteworthy that Figarland says, “Anyone who protects scum is lower than the scum they protect” while Shanks has a notoriously weak fleet because he protects them.
Finally, RIP Mjosgard. It’s sad that he was able to better himself and ended up executed as a result of those morals.
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CHAPTER 1086 SPOILERS (for new Seraphim)!!!!
I love that Doflamingo, no matter what form, has the walk.
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Baby Moria is loving life ... Even he's adorable okay, I said it.
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And Crocodile.... Depression.
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Really though why he so depressed?
Brain cell: Probably because he's a weapon of mass destruc-
Me: Precious baby don't be sad.
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khepiari · 1 year
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One Piece Chapter 1086 Reactions! Spoilers
So world politics, history aside and plot thickening aside! Where the hell is my baby boy? Where is Luffy? We haven’t seen him in months! A chapter without him makes me sad. I am obsessed with him.
And we finally have names to pin to each of these piece of shits after after 853 chapters of waiting! Yeah the debuted in 233!
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I was right about Imu being immortal adjacent eh? Yes yes yes all of us guessed it. But yeah!
Trafalgar D “Wherever You Are Injured” Water Law!
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You my dear are going to be hunted down like a wild boar! You just became more important than we thought you were!
Bloody Eternal Youth Surgery! Or Immortality Surgery! Whatever it is! Law is at the middle of this mess!
Trafalgar D Water Law is the most important D in the story at the moment!
Yes Lu, you are important, no doubt about it— but fucking Immortality Surgery!
On lighter note, Will be get Seraphim Law? 🤭
Baby Croc looks so done with Life! And look at little shit Doffy and little shit Moria! Sometimes evil need ls to be nipped in the bud; yeah I support their eradication!
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And Odachii is really funny for these! We have no food, no bread only cake to eat! Oh dear lord!
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What do you mean, this man was former ruler of God Valley? Why are you not ruler now? What the fuck are holy knights? And why do you rascals call yourself Saints? You all have done nothing Saintly in your entire life— you have only oppressed and exploited people of their labour and life and dignity!
You piece of shits!
This last panel also proves, Individuals alone cannot change the world, they can inspire and thrive to do good and make a better world— but when stakes are so high, and you challenge the status quo— you will be eradicated. Only mass revolution will bring the downfall of the rich and powerful!
We have seen it time and again, Individuals have sacrificed themselves for the cause of the greater good— which is revolution or rebellion or protest. Myosgard was inspired by Otohime, and tried his best— both individuals who couldn’t see the change they wanted to bring, but their death was not in vain. They set the spark of change!
Now we shall wait, and wait for the the house of cards to fall down!
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roydeezed · 1 year
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One Piece-Chapter Round-Up(Chapter 1086)
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Ahhh, what a cute colour spread! Chopper is adorable as always but Luffy’s reflection in the pond reminds me of Ponyo’s adorableness. And look at Oda being an ally with that rainbow! Such a pleasant spread to leave us on before a void month. I wish Oda all the best with his eye operation! The man deserves his rest, even if it is mandated by surgery. So I was stuck on some really stupid theories for the last little while so that’s why I didn’t post this right away with the scanlations and instead am posting with the official release. I’m still using scanlations for the screengrabs for this latest chapter so if the official translations take things in a different direction it won’t reflect here. I’ll do some analysis and then leave the theories for the end. It gets weird so you'll definitely have to hold on to your butts for this one. Catch it below the cut!
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So like right away, Oda drops not only the Figarlands, who have been teased since Film Red, but also the Nerona Family. The only relevant thing I can think of that even comes close to Nerona is the emperor Nero. The emperor Nero is often seen as a monster with wildly evil deeds attributed to him, whereas history suggests the truth was a bit more muddled. I doubt Oda would take into account such an ambiguous detail, so I’m left believing that if Nerona does refer to Nero, it refers to Nero’s horrible and petulant reputation. Which certainly does match up with what Imu does in this chapter. Imu destroys an entire country based on its proximity. These aren’t the actions of a cunning leader carefully repelling rebels. It’s impulsive and horrid. Which, if it was used to characterize the Gorosei’s unquestioning obedience, still leaves room for Imu to be somewhat complicated. But I believe it’s also used to show Imu’s disregard for life. So far my theory towards Imu is that they’re probably in some stage of arrested development, maybe having made Lili give them the ope-ope-no-mi operation as a show of loyalty when they were young. And that their rule has largely been due to their overwhelming power and not because of careful rule. 
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Now we can assume the Figarlands have a connection to Shanks as he was found in a chest in God Valley, with Garling possibly being his grandfather or even Father. Also does he have one arm like Shanks too? Anyways, the family connection could explain why Shanks is able to talk to the Gorosei so casually. Though something about all of this seems off, they do seem important. Garling, with his Mac Tonight looking ass, seems to be every bit the scumbag the Celestial Dragons have been. So why is he here and working as an enforcer and not being a king? He’s ruthless so we can assume that the God Valley incident was triggered by his mistreatment of his citizens. So he must have been the King of the island back then. 
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The God’s Knights arriving as a new power also gives some credence to something I’ve been thinking about for a while. While Sengoku did say he was dead, I’ve always felt like it was such a weird way to end Rocks D Xebec's story. Especially considering the fact that Blackbeard seems to have a connection with him as he named his ship the Sabre of Xebec. So here’s what I’m thinking (code for:the theories are about to get weird), Rocks D Xebec is a part of the God’s Knights. And here’s why I think so: First of all, the God’s Knights seem to be a secondary calling to it’s members. Garling was a king and then became a knight after God Valley disappeared. Secondly, I think Rocks D Xebec was based on a Real Life Pirate called Benjamin Hornigold. Whitebeard was partially inspired by him too. At least I believe so. Benjamin Hornigold was a pirate that had many famous pirates work under him during his career, including the IRL Blackbeard. His two most defining characteristics, which he didn’t share with Whitebeard, were that he didn’t attack Government Ships, and that he became a Privateer. And those are the two qualities I think Rocks shares. Mostly because it would parallel how Blackbeard doesn’t have the will to fight the government head on and would rather live in their system, like with how he wants Fullelead/Beehive/Hachinosu to be a government sanctioned island. Fullelead/Beehive/Hachinosu is also another connection as that’s where the Rock’s Pirates were also formed and is a direct parallel to the the Republic of Pirates created by a one Benjamin Hornigold. Rocks did attack Celestial Dragons but I believe because of the Hornigold connection that he probably avoided Marines until his last confrontation with Garp. That could also be why he didn’t win the fight as Hornigold himself was mutinied against for seeming weak for not attacking Government Ships. This mutiny part is something that Whitebeard somewhat shares as Ace saw him weak for not going after Blackbeard and Squard attacked him for seemingly abandoning them in favour of Ace. In the case of Rocks D Xebec, The Rocks Pirates may have left him as they saw him as weak for not attacking the government ships. Oda puts forward the idea that Dreams eventually clash against the powers that be in reaching their goal. If both Blackbeard and Rocks had dreams that never clashed against the system, it could show how their desires are not as strong. Obviously this is heavy speculation. But it’s also why I think he might share the second characteristic with Hornigold too. That he became a privateer. Which for those who don’t know means to be essentially a government sanctioned Pirate. And while that program, the Warlords, has ended in the One Piece world, Oda did make a point to introduce the God’s Knights in the same chapter as a reminder of their end. Which I believe is another reason for the introduction of the God’s Knights. I can see them being a powerful force for the Celestial Dragons and the Government, who have some overwhelmingly strong opponents in the Yonkou and the Revo’s. And who better to stand against them than someone as powerful as Rock D Xebec? Okay, that was the first of my overly reachy theories. Hope you enjoyed my red stringed detective board. One last thing on this theory is that I also wouldn’t be surprised if Doflamingo pops up as a God’s Knight. It seems the perfect place to bring back unredeemable villains. 
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Another thing that is important to note is how Oda used the Revo’s this time around. Not only were they used to cement what was actually going on for the future readers and people who don’t spend their free time obsessing over it like us, but also to cement what the Revo’s actually knew. For the longest time, people had speculated that Dragon was Uranus or the Big Egg on the Oro Jackson had hatched into something that was Uranus that let Dragon control the weather. But with how unsure they seem of the Ancient Weapons existence, it shows that they don’t possess it. So Uranus is now pitched back to Saul, Loki, or Scopper. Since Poseidon was a natural occurrence in a person and Pluton is a weapon, it’s likely Uranus isn’t a devil fruit. Which could mean Devil Fruits were inventions after the Void Century. Perhaps Nika was a real person with the Ancient Kingdom and in an effort to fight him, the devil fruits were invented and inadvertently passed down his will through his powers. This chapter didn’t seem like a huge info-dump but there’s so much to read in between the lines here that I’m having a hard time knowing when to stop. Anyways, the Revo’s discussing this also shows that Robin shared information with them. I’d be very curious to know exactly how much she shared with them because she does seem like she’s playing it pretty close to the vest. 
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The Mother Flame is another interesting thing too. And the disappearance of God Valley. We know God Valley’s dissappearance wasn’t the same as Lulusia as that was an invention by Vegapunk. But Vegapunks inventions largely draw inspiration from existing artifacts. And we saw a mech on egghead powered by a dynamic power source. That coupled with Lunarians, who were also similarly wiped out, who can produce energy with FLAMES, paints a picture I’m not fully sure about. But God Valley disappearing makes me believe it might be the work of Uranus. And if Scopper is the man with the burn scar who’s ship sucks things into whirlpools, perhaps Scopper sucked God Valley into a whirlpool after the Roger and Xebec fight? It would be an interesting mirror to Imu’s Mother Flame that attacks from above. And if that is what Uranus does, though it’s be weird if it wasn’t air based (Greek/Roman Sky God), it could also be how the Ancient Kingdom disappeared. Though, the Ancient Kingdom has gotta be something that’s known already as Clover wouldn’t have been shot just as he was about to say it otherwise. A people forgetting their purpose, that would be a great parallel to the D Clan. Though a dream being tied to a piece of land doesn’t vibe with me much either. Doesn’t feel right for One Piece. I really love the theory floating around that the Ancient Kingdom was a freeform nation of Pirates. Which would make the 20 Kingdoms the minority. And thus be why they’re so intent on keeping their rule. Though how would that translate to a word that could be said to reveal the meaning? I’m sure there’s something salvageable in that jumble of thoughts but I don’t think we have enough information to know what. 
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Okay some final thoughts before I get into the big one. With the Revo’s all but confirming that Imu had the immortality surgery, I see it that Imu probably had Lili give them the surgery as a show of loyalty, hence why Imu is still suspicious. And why that name meant so much to them. The Gorosei could also potentially have had the surgery done on them, taking turns having people sacrificed to them. Kind of like the Mangkyo Sharingan where your closest friend has to die. Though with their obedient relationship to Imu, that probably isn’t the case. And with Imu being so irredeemable but the common plot structure of Princesses being rescued (Nami, Vivi, Ace Shirashoshi, Rebecca) still in place, I could see Imu having a child like Lord Spiral and Nia in TTGL (if you don’t get the reference, Spiral was an immortal who had mortal kids that he tossed aside after he got bored with them). Though the final princess could alternatively be Bonney as she needs to save Kuma and his kingdom. But maybe also Nami because of a theory that I don’t want to get into too much here. Though it’s mainly about how the Toki Toki No Mi exists and she was found in the middle of a war torn country. Possible Ancient Kingdom Princess? Anyways, huge stretch, no evidence and not the focus. I just like the idea of it looping back around. 
Okay, now the big one. This contradicts other theories and my main thorn is the fact that Enel could breathe on the moon, but the gist of it is that Humans are Aliens on the One Piece World. 
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So yeah… It’s a little bit intense, I know. But bear with me. So I’ve thought that was a possibility for a long time. Ever since the Celestial Dragons began walking around with Bowls on their heads and Enel’s cover story on the moon, whichever came last. But the thing that bothered me for the longest time was this model below from Ohara, of the Earth being orbited by celestial bodies.
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Enel wanted to go to the moon, Fairy Vearth. That was his dream. And this model seemed to suggest that many moons orbited the Earth. And I took that as evidence for the One Piece world’s messed up ocean currents, completely forgetting about a thing called the Geocentric Model, where the planets themselves orbited the world. Mainly because there were six celestial bodies circling the earth, a number that didn’t make any sense as something other than a moons in my tunnel vision brain. Back then I also believed the reason for the bizarre land formations was because the Celestial Dragons had crashed moons onto the surface and terraformed the world using continent pullers and Ancient Weapons. And some of that still stands but it’s been utterly recontextualized by these geezers. The Gorosei!
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Each one is named after a planet. Which contextualizes the geocentric model we saw in Ohara. There’s five geezers and if we subtract one of the Celestial Bodies orbiting Earth as the Moon, then we have five planets! Named after each of the Gorosei. Or more likely the other way around. The Planets being Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter and and Saturn. Which leaves the other three/two planets, Neptune (which can also be referred to as Poseidon for Ancient Weapon Purposes), Uranus, and Pluto (Did you hear about Pluto? That was messed up). Now, it seems like the latter three planets are missing from the geocentric model. Could it be that they no longer exist? Another thing I want to point out is Enel’s whole journey to the moon cover story. In it, we get evidence that the Birkans, Shandians, and Skypieans also were on the moon at some point and descended to earth after they used up their resources on the moon. And those three races would’ve fit the three missing planets in the planteray models very well, but then we got the reveal of a fourth winged race in the Lunarians. If a fifth winged race gets revealed then this theory would be really strong.
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The way I see it, the original humans, who were winged folk as shown on the moon with the automatons, crashed Neptune, Uranus, and Pluto onto earth after escaping to the moon from the five other planets. Keeping with the themes of Skypeia and the land being taken, the Earth was probably only water, with the fishmen being the native species. Potentially a republic of Pirates with species such as the minks, zou, giants and others also thrived on the water. The original humans had probably exploited their various planets, if we’re going by the Gorosei, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Saturn, and Jupiter, of all natural resources. Maybe all of the original humans each had different types of wings depending on where they came from, with Skypeians, Birkans, Shandians, and Lunarians and a secret fifth thing all coming from different planets and each shedding their wings as they settled on land. Landing on the moon, they created automata to do the work for them and after exploiting all the resources there and discovering earth with it’s natural resources and living labour, they set about creating their own perfect world, crashing Neptune, Uranus, and Pluto on to the surface to create islands for them which they moved around as they liked using their technology and Continent Pullers. Perhaps the Ancient Weapons were born as a desire to counter this as just how continent pullers can pull land, Shirahoshi as Poseidon was also shown to be able to pull heavy things using Sea Kings. Alternatively Neptune could have provided the Sea, Uranus the atmosphere and Sky Islands, and Pluto the Land to a barren Earth. And possibly they brought the life forms along with them. The original humans could have overseen this from the sky islands and once the world was carved out to their liking, most of them descended to the planet below, losing their wings in the process. This could explain why Rayleigh talked about the Straw Hats coming to a different conclusion as they were all human when that conversation took place. If humans were the ones responsible for the state of the earth, it would be a tough pill to swallow for the strawhats. It would also mirror the heavy themes of colonialism in Skypiea and the themes of imperialism all throughout. And also why heavy secrecy is mandated, with a shrouded past in the void century. So that’s my theory in a nutshell: The humans of One Piece, if not all the races, are Aliens to the Planet. 
Before I finish I have one last thing. In the process of writing this, I think I might have figured out something about Rocks and Blackbeard. So a part of Blackbeard's dream is to have a republic of pirates. I believe he inherited that dream from Rocks, who was a historian just like Blackbeard and Robin. Sabre of Xebec and what not, right? But that could be because that is what the Ancient Kingdom really was. A loose nation of pirates. But where Rocks and Blackbeards dreams get twisted is that they wanted to do it in the confines of the World Government, and let the oppressive system perpetuate itself. And thus defeating the freedom of such a nation. If you’ve read this far, thank you very much. I hope it made the tiniest bit of sense, I am very aware how rambly this was. Honestly it's very weird how much it sent me into tinfoil hatted theory crafting but it it such a specific spot in my pet theories that I just had to spend time with it. Going forward it's gonna be a lot more coherent. Probably. Hopefully...
Anyways,
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curlybrow-kun · 1 year
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aslostaszoro · 11 months
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!!ONE PIECE CHAPTER 1086 SPOILERS!!
So as we know, In film Red it was revealed Shanks is a member of the Figarland family-
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In the latest chapter we are met with St. Figarland Garling. Who, in the translated version I found "Was a dominating figure who once distinguished himself at a place called God Valley". This can, of course, be thought of in many different ways. But I beleive he may have been the ruler of God's Valleys before it's end. Why? Its in the name. "Figarland" could also be pronounced as "figure land", a land where something of importance went down or happened. Now, how does he tie in with Shanks?
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They both share the same name, and therefore have some sort of blood relevance. Shown in the picture of St. Figarland, you can see him weilding a saber of sorts. Similar to Shanks' weapon. We also learn that he is the supreme commander of the holy knight. Yes, whilst the Celestial Dragons are often shown as brass, snotty and increadibley weak this may be what sets them apart from the family. Which sets be into my next speaking point; Haki/Conquerers Haki.
Of course I won't dive into it too much but C.H is said to be an almost physical representation of a leaders spirit, a conquerers. As a Celestial Dragon, this is extremely apparent. He stands above the holy nights as supreme commander, whilst he also mocks St Donquixote Myosgard for protecting scum lower than him. Showing the beliefs of the harsh and cruel ruling of the WG while also enforcing his own strength.
Shanks stands above his crew as an incredibly strong captain, protecting those weaker than him as if they are his family, which is the complete opposite of his relative. He shows after the Big Mom and Kaido fight as well as against the bandits in the start of the manga that he hates when people try and take advantage of others in a weaker state. I beleive this could be from his upbringing on Roger's crew.
Speaking of Roger, let's go back quickly to the photo last shown, baby Shanks. Shanks is depicted wearing a onesie with stars, moons and suns on it. Garling is shown in this chapter to have a haircut in the shape of a crescent moon, linking back to the outfit. But what about the stars and the moons?
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As we take a closer look at this guy we can notice he has oddly shaped spikes in his hair on both sides. But why does this come into play? simple. If you looked at him straight forward his hair would be the shape of a star. So now, how can we incorporate the sun?
Roger's voyage ends with Joyboy's secret and reaching laugh tale. Joyboy is also connected with the Sun God Nika devil fruit. Shanks later in his life meets luffy, who digests the fruit and becomes the next Joyboy. Whilst I'm still trying to figure this part out, pun intended, I can see a very important message being displayed through this.
Hopping back to God Valley we have one massive question, how the hell did Shanks end up there? Maybe it was a family trip or by coincidence. But I don't think we'll be getting answers with this little amount information. Which also bugs me. Around Marineford arc when Shanks drinks with Whitebeard he says he's from the West. Perhaps his family perviously ruled there, ruining my previous statement. But I would like to suggest a different angle.
What if it was an alliance between two nations? an alliance which resulted in the blood of two different families combining into one. Maybe thats why the Figarlands are so highly regarded. It can also help my slowly crumbling theory.
Shanks has been shown to be the complete opposite of his relative as I stated earlier. Perhaps, in an almost ironic way, he would rather pretend he was from a "town in the West Sea". He obviously couldn't say he was from Gods Valley, so that small lie could be manageable.
I'll probably end up editing this or reposting this with more theories if I end up with any more idea's, but thats all for now :)
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chromatic-lamina · 1 year
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Oda packing the punches: Chapter 1086 spoilers
Okay, I'm not doing a long one like last week, but heaps to take in, and I adore the idea of all of the notorious, prestigious and sought after stowaways on the ships leaving the Marie Geoise shores.
The ones from the new world must do so with World Government (Marine) assistances, right?
And Tajine Kingdom (Bonney stowed away on their ship) and St. Aegis kingdom (Walpol and Vivi stowed away on theirs) were World Government member nations, and both rebelled. I wonder why.
My main reason for being here, though is:
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this!!!!!! 👆
Look at our bow-legged bird, even in seraphim form. Crocodile's beauty is as glassy-eyed (sad-eyed, dead-eyed?) as Boa Hancock's and Mihawk's, and Moria's looking pretty good too.
So, the seraphim are being employed to basically destroy their makers (the original Hancock, Mihawk, etc.—not that we've seen a Mihawk/S-Mihawk fight yet). There has to be a Trafalgar Law one. Oda wouldn't pass up the opportunity, I think. Although, if it will convolute the story, that one might be left to us fan-fiction writers.
Lots of other stuff. Massive catch up, lore drops. The destruction of Lulusia seems to parallel Marshall Island Atoll nuclear tests or Maralinga in the centre of Australia, or so many others, and more linearly (time-wise) the U.S. government's nuclear testing in New Mexico before the ultimate bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Robin has apparently told the revs:
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that the ancient weapons exist (as Ivankov lets us know above).
And more parallels here with the Einstein / Vegapunk thing, and what their research can be harnessed for, or what they might directly contribute to without and possibly with knowing the consequences.
Iva suspects that the attack has nothing to do with Vegapunk (although maybe I misread the panel—it seemed that Imu thought it was Vegapunk's work, but Imu might've been referring to the seraphim).
Iva suspects that Imu is
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Imu of House Nerona (one of the original founders of the Celestial Dragons / Word Government / Mary Geoise), so, from the void century and granted eternal youth through the ope ope no mi, although the fruit is not mentioned by name. Whether the revs' don't know it's granted from a fruit, or whether they're playing coy, is not apparent. It seems the former.
As a founder, they (Imu) could possibly have knowledge of the ancient weapons.
So, as an aside, considering the original granter of the eternal fruit would have died as per their fruit's power (Lili?) then there must be more people around with eternal youth too, right?, because others would have consumed the fruit, and 800 years is a long time.
Anyway, briefly onto Lili; if she had the ope ope no mi, she could've shambled the poneglyphs the world over as a very awakened form of the fruit, and maybe granting Imu eternal youth is what caused her death. I don't think that's my idea. I probably read it somewhere, but I can't recall where.
For the above, I love that Robin's dropping massive intel into the Revolutionary Army's lap.
Seems that Sabo will be a D. too, from this statement below 👇 . I'd prefer he wasn't, but, whatever!
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Sabo is definitely surrounded by them! And that 'checkered fate' line is used a lot. I know there are a few translations on it.
Lastly, and it's not only the last (like, for instance, Walpol won't tell Vivi about her Father, CPO are running around with pictures of Vivi and Sabo to folks in Mary Geoise, Sterry (Sabo's brother) doing a Sanji when sighting Vivi's picture, and Big News Morgans filling the reader in on how he managed to pick up Walpol and Vivi (we suppose)): BUT possibly one of the biggest pieces of news is:
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that Saint Donquixote Mosgard will be executed due to protecting Shirahoshi 👆 , thereby running parallels with Homing, except that Mosgard was effective with his compassion, but will also pay with his life, as did Donquixote Rosinante (and his father). And
The person tasked with the execution is the former king of God Valley, and I know there's a lot of Rocks D. Xebec info about God Valley that's basically all over my head at present (will read up on it later, or read someone else's meta).
But as importantly, or maybe more importantly, is this guy's name: Saint Figarland Garling. Shanks, was stated by the Gorosei in Film Red (although I missed this section, or forgot it) as coming from the Figarland family (he was discovered in a box that the Roger Pirates stole during the God Valley Incident).
Ahahahah. I love all the influences though: Good Donquixotes, and then Donquixote Doflamingo. Entitled Figarlands, and then good Shanks, or maybe not... (I believe he's good, but Oda always turns the tables on me, and everything's grey, even when characters have positive aspects).
So, yeah—there's a ton of stuff. Go have a read or wait for the official, but the scans gave the elders their names, so I'll just drop that too, and a translators' note that was interesting:
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Read below for their processes in naming:
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Okay as said, I didn't cover everything, but ALSO, look at this gorgeous cover (Oda can't be ignorant that it's pride month)
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I love the little frog. It's a reader's request: Chopper and a kitty crossing the reflection of a rainbow they see in a puddle. Cute! The reflections look great too.
Also, don't forget this guy:
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afishmushy · 1 year
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Thoughts on chapter 1086, so much great info to go over
so, immortality in the op world seems kinda a myth to others? and we only got to know about was because of the former Celestial Dragon, doffy.
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this explains why Teach was being skeptical, if he knew it for sure he wouldn't waste a minute.
And what the rest of the world would do if this Information was spread? That immortality isn't a myth, and Imu is indeed an immortal being? according to Cora, the whole world will target the owner of such a fruit.
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As for Imu's order, as I predicted before, Imu wants Vivi, perhaps for a new vessel? ( sure the d thing too) and I think that because according to doffy, great power goes rotten with time (I couldn't find the panel)
so perhaps this is why Imu appears to be a young child and not an old person? because Imu needs to switch to a new body every now and then?
Oda didn't introduce Law's ability to switch souls for nothing, not to mention he used it only once- which is kinda weird?. I predict this is how you undo immortality, by trapping the soul in a void space where - Imu- wouldn't be a being anymore, unable to command and unable to destroy.
so, yeah Law is important for the final saga baby.
and for these things, people have been saying Croc looks feminine? , but to me, he is kind of indifferent or sad even? which is weird because each Seraphim looks like they adopted personalities as well.
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Only four left, I predict Buggy and the blonde guy next, and I am super excited about Teach and Law THE MOST, save the best for the last kind of deal?
just imagine the drama Law gonna go through lol.
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bydxsign · 1 year
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mezzy303 · 27 days
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Ok so I've already posed one theory about the great kingdom being underwater, but I discovered an interesting tidbit in lulusia's wikia page that is making me form another:
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This makes me think of a possibility that whatever weapon (uranus maybe) was used to destroy lulusia also destroyed the main island of the great kingdom and the crater that was left is where enies lobby now is. It's historically a pretty common tactic for the victor of a war or battle to place something like a statue or a building over an area that was significant to the ones defeated. And it certainly sends a very big message to put the new government's judicial island at the spot of their defeated enemies whom they "served justice" on. It serves both as a symbol of good vs evil in favor of the world govt and as a warning to the allies of the great kingdom.
And if this weapon is uranus, it could be the reason why the shipwrights of water 7 decided to pass down pluton's blueprints, because an ancient weapon had already fallen and was used in the wrong hands, so they needed a contingency plan in case it happened to another.
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whateverthought · 1 year
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One Piece Chapter 1086 Spoilers
Why does everyone say Saint Figarland Garling is related to Shanks? Am I missing something? Shanks hasn't had a name reveal, has he? Is it because we all assume Shanks is a God's Knight or a Celestial Dragon or something similar?
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stashiokat · 1 year
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Oda being like "hey guys im gonna go on a hiatus for a surgery im recovering from ��" like ok cool take care
and then releasing THAT chapter
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I don't know why this makes me so emotional but I hope in whatever afterlife there is in One Piece, Queen Otohime and Mjosgard can meet again, perhaps over a cup of tea 🥲
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oharas-demon · 1 year
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I can’t believe the fandom was cooking when they said “what if Imu used the awakened power of the OP OP fruit for the immortality surgery and is from the void era” LIKE WHAT !!!!! Obviously Ivan chan theorizing it themselves doesn’t confirm it but wow! I think I saw a theory that the Gorosei used that power too or instead and at this point I’m more inclined to believe Imu has used it… Aside from Ivan theorizing, it’s just the way Imu talks that has me kinda believing… Unless Oda is doing that to throw us off! 😵‍💫
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chenziee · 5 months
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Finally catching up with the manga again and omfg Issho really went "hmmm we got the warlord system taken down but how do I piss Sakazuki off even more?" and proceeded to basically join the revs.. he truly is pure chaos packaged in a proper, polite bow.. (as opposed to Sabo who's just pure chaos, period)
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