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#fuck rhodesia
dougielombax · 7 months
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“These women will die for Rhodesia?”
I see.
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There’s the propaganda poster.
Looks like some b-movie shit.
Except they didn’t.
They didn’t die for “Rhodesia”.
Instead, when their enemies fought back, they panicked and ran away, fleeing to South Africa or the UK or wherever else.
And now their jaded, bitter descendants spend their days bitching about it on the internet.
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that-dinopunk-guy · 1 year
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Stickers are also fun.
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Me, clueless: Oh, what is Fireforce? I mean, it's a pretty cool name for a tactic. Surely it can't be an over-complicated and expensive tactic used by the extremely racist army of an explicitly racist and fascist ethnostate that was never once recognized by anyone on the world stage and used the murder of civilians and the torture of thousands of innocents in order to spread fear and bully black people into submitting to a fascist dictatorship that is using them as functional slaves in a planter aristocracy-style government not dissimilar to the American South during the Civil War, right?
Me, six hours later, now thoroughly depressed: Ian Smith should've died in that Hawker Hurricane
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yourtongzhihazel · 1 month
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What infighting were you talking about when you mentioned Rhodesia? Was it the South Africans' personal hatred of the Rhodesians for being "too british"?
Yes, that's one aspect of it but also how no one recognized them and they were really salty at all the other white supremacists who they saw as "abandoning them".
Here's some lyrics from rhodesian (white supremacist) "folk" song "another hitler":
While the nations scrap and scramble For this piece of land we own Do they ever stop to think of where it leads 'Cause this battle is not the last one And we're only stepping stones And finally america will bleed america will bleed!
so uh yeah.
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crimeronan · 8 months
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grown ass woman and you didn't even know Rhodesia? Please pray some Paradox Interactive games like eu4 or hoi4. look it up. Please this is depressing if even weird smart girls don't know basic history
hey guys. get a load of this fucking moron.
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chaiaurchaandni · 7 months
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israel bombs vicinity of indonesian hospital in Gaza
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just wanted to point out how after the baptist hospital massacre that killed HUNDREDS of Palestinians at once, israel faced a lot of outrage all over the world - as a response, now israel has stopped directly bombing hospitals but it regularly bombs the vicinity of several hospitals, and sometimes the courtyards (where displaced Palestinians find shelter, and where ambulances are either about to head out to bombed areas or bringing survivors/injured from bombed areas). also, instead of bombing the entire hopsital, it now bombs only a floor occasionally, in order to not garner outrage and slowly normalise the bombing of hospitals, while also doing considerable damage and killing Palestinian civilians/medical staff. bec of israeli bombing, the only cancer hospital in Gaza is no longer operational. israel also bombed a top floor of a children's hospital, and bombed ambulances that it guaranteed to allow to pass through rafah crossing.
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lasttarrasque · 6 months
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jyndor · 7 months
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hmm so I wanted to read about that weak bitch rhodesia for a moment and well, well, well what do we have here
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look what I found fucking birds of a fashy feather (need to learn about malawi and why they were being Like That, I don't have much education on malawi - the rest i fucking know all too well)
also the boldness of the us to vote for the sanctions and just completely ignore them anyway, I mean that tracks but it's still wild to me
I'm actually not really a communist but it is so interesting to see how horrible anti-communist states and movements are. anti-communist countries are like "I can excuse racism but I draw the line at being mean to rich people🥺"
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omg we're so fucking annoying anyway good on the oas for calling the us out on the bullshit
but this part made me laugh ngl
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it did not, thankfully
anyway fuck ian smith
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zorciarkrildrush · 7 months
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I think the essence of what drives me crazy about current Enlightened Online Leftist Discourse Regarding My Life Personally And Whether This Time Killing Me Is Morally Correct (as in, commentary about the latest episode in i/p violence) is this:
I want a free Palestine.
I don't personally know a lot of people that don't! They might bristle at the tagline, because it's co-opted by people who do in fact want them dead, but as soon as I lay out why it's in literally everyone's best interest, how a non-free Palestine is horrific both to the people of Israel and to the people of Palestine, how pragmatically ridiculous the occupation of the west bank and the siege upon Gaza are (and I am a very pragmatic person), they get it. And I don't mean I debate people online about it - this, too, is a ridiculous concept - I mean having, time and time again, the deradicalization conversation with my friends, and colleagues, and my family. Obviously not only now - I've always been a very principled and argumentative Jew, ever since I became an adult - and I've been alive for, I don't know, a dozen flashpoints and operations and wars at this point, and I don't stop being argumentative and loud in peacetime either, but especially now.
But that's not what "from the river to the sea" means.
When you, gentle soul from across the sea, echo this slogan, you are either:
By apathy or will, ignoring that the sentiment cheers for the mass expulsion and killing of Jews. Indeed, any non-Muslim present from the river to the sea. This doesn't even begin to cover how even Muslim arabs still will not be safe under Hamas rule - and trust me, I don't care if a Hamas apologist told you different. A victory for Hamas (And we're ignoring the fact they do not have the military capacity for it - I hope you are aware of the privilege inherent to not understanding military conflicts) means exactly that. No "rule by the people". No socialistic, Palestinian utopia to be had, which is a fantasy I'm seeing alluded to a lot recently. Just an extension of the horrific power structure in Lebanon and Syria, where Hezbollah - friends and allies to Hamas - have been playing a tango for decades of both refusing to participate in actual government and betterment of civilian lives, while still draining their resources and controlling them with no real contest. "From the river to the sea" is not a sentiment for freedom fighting - it's a sentiment for a final solution to the people living here who are either Jewish, or for some Very Strange And Weird Reason would rather not submit to Hamas rule. You know - Israeli Arabs, secular and Muslim and Christian, Druze, Circassians, Bahai, take your pick. Their suffering, and my suffering - you know, a person who made the strategic error of being born in Israel while Jewish, which is inherently problematic and not okay of me - don't matter to you. Just the fantasy of an easy, morally correct cleanse of the land.
Are well aware of all of the above! You just don't care. You either smugly chuckle that I, and anybody else who will die, deserve it - or that it's an acceptable loss for the aforementioned fantasy. "Decolonization is an inherently violent process", you'll say to me, chillingly, before implying I have a summer home in Brooklyn I can just retreat to when things get tough. Israel is basically Rhodesia, a very popular blog here mentioned flippantly, so what's the issue with all of those lily-white Jews fucking off back home before the righteous freedom fighters strike them down? Well. This might be the part I urge you to open a book, or even Wikipedia or any god damn thing that will explain to you these upsetting, dense things you clearly struggle with.
So finally:
It's easy for me to discount islamophobes. Like, very easy. It's very easy for me to discount insane evangelistics who "advocate for me" simply because I'm a pawn in their religious rapture. It's easy for me to fight against Israeli and Jewish fascists - I have been long before this news item came across your feed, as did the insinuations that some civilian deaths are okay, actually.
It's easy for me for me to see promotions for donations to non-political aid in Gaza. It's easy for me to see the sentiment that hey! Palestinians deserve safe, healthy lives. That they have deserved an independent state, and were unfairly denied one, for decades. It's easy for me to see people saying "You know, the Israeli government is shit, actually, and their actions endanger and promote to the misery of innocents". Because that's right! I wouldn't be voting and protesting and donating for all of these sentiments otherwise!
It's not easy for me to see people, who I honestly held in high regard and saw having well thought out opinions on important matters, inadvertently echo the sentiment that my death is acceptable. That a terrorist organization, who rule over their own territory with fear and violence, are righteous freedom fighters, vox populi, only out to establish a free state. Like hey, their manifesto said otherwise, so it must be all there is - right? That Jews are just hysterical, they can easily live elsewhere - ever since that nasty holocaust business everything's fine abroad. Besides, it was just so long ago who even cares stop talking about it. Hamas, Hezbollah, ISIS, the Ayatollahs in Iran, the fucking Islamic Jihad - are not interested in freedom. They aren't, and echoing their slogan tells me you are either ignoring that, or support them anyway. If antisemitic rhetoric, half truths and lies by omission work on you today, they would have in any period of time. I'm sorry this makes you uncomfortable. I'm not, not really.
Know what your fucking words mean. Have a cursory glance at the history of the MENA and why it's so fucked, one that doesn't boil down to "The Jews, with American help, rolled into where they don't belong". This isn't even a joke. I've seen this braindead, history-revising sentiment repeated so many times, both online and in actual textbooks, that I feel I'm going insane. So many well-meaning people handwringing and assuring each other that repeating genocidal slogans is fine, that calling the i/p conflict "a simple problem" (which means it has a simple solution, right? Just kill the Jews.) is a well-adjusted and intellectual take. That "only the Zionists should die! The rest will be fine :)" I dare you to say that and also give me a correct definition of what Zionism is. Why I, a Jew that advocates for Palestinian statehood and rights and safety and always have, won't also face the wall in your little fantasy.
Freedom to Palestine. Peace in the middle east, fucking yesterday.
A curse and a plague on those who don't want either of those, and just want to cheer on the death of "the other side".
A curse and a plague upon you, when you tell me, smugly, from somewhere safe and far away, "from the river to the sea".
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txttletale · 8 months
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"doesn't israel have a right to exist" well first of all i'm a communist so i don't think any state has a right to exist. but second of all what a stupid fucking question. did rhodesia have a right to exist. did french algeria have a right to exist. did the ottoman empire have a right to exist
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tamamita · 8 months
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I think I get where the Liberal "what about Israel" takes come from, but they completely fail to decouple Judaism from Israel and that's where they lose the plot.
They're not right, but it explains a lot when you think about it from that perspective.
Libs are known to have an extremely isolated and ahistorical view on the issue of colonization. If we consider dialectic materialism, we will all come to understand that there is a contradiction between the oppressor and oppressed or the colonized and colonizer, which can be resolved by force, resistence, uprising and social revolution. These come in response to the settler colonizer state apparatus. There is never a peaceful resolution to the idea, because the idea is to abolish the violent state apparatus for the resistence to succeed. For example, if we observe Algeria, Rhodesia, South Africa and so forth, it becomes evident that violent resistence to the state apparatus was successful in abolishing the settler state. Both of these are antagonistic contradictions, one must prevail over the other. But libs believe that the contradiction is non-antagonistic, so the idea is that it can be resolved peacefully even though history bears testament to the fact that it's not true. Colonization and decolonization are inherently violent, because they are contradictions. Colonization works to exploit the oppressed/colonized and while upholding its racist system through violence and ethnic cleansing, The response to these fascist ideas is through violent reactionary resistence, that is to say, the active participation in decolonizing the violent settler state.
Decolonization is in fact a natural response and nothing more than the act of self-defense and resistence at the very moment the settler state is founded. It shouldn't be this fucking hard to understand considering 75 years of oppression and colonization. The Palestinians have ALL the right to resist therefore.
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dougielombax · 7 months
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Too many people out there are all too convinced that their country and people can do no wrong.
It’s a frightening and sickening way of thinking.
And they always seem to be perpetually FURIOUS!
I’ve seen it with many countries.
Apartheid South Africa, Rhodesia (rip in PISS), Azerbaijan, Turkey, Venezuela, Syria, British loyalists in my own country, Russia and a few others.
It’s frightening to behold and sickeningly predictable.
And the instant they get called out and justifiably scrutinised for it, they lash out. Every time. Accusing the entire world of conspiring against them.
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frociaggine · 2 hours
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Asking because I don’t know how to tag properly/don’t have enough tlt brainrot followers on my own blog: I had this revelation that New Rho Could be short for “New Rhodesia” which would say a LOT about the original colonists of the planet (the trillionaires(?))
ooh this is juicy! For context: "Rhodesia" was the name given to Zimbabwe and Zambia by the British, after Cecil Rhodes (you may know him from the Rhodes scholarship. also the imperialism)
I started replying to this and it went horribly long so I'm gonna put it under a cut. My tldr is that I don't think it's a direct reference, both because of naming patterns in TLT and because I don't think the trillionaires who escaped earth would be referencing Cecil Rhodes on purpose, but I also don't think it's a wild leap to make.
I'm throwing this in the tags and I'm 👀 to know what people think.
On the name
I always assumed that New Rho was a reference to the greek word / letter Rho (ρ). This would fit both the naming patterns of the Houses (which are partly inspired by classical mythology) AND what little we see of the naming patterns of BoE, who apparently like to name places after ancient or mythological locations on Earth — see also: Lemuria, Ctesiphon wing, Troia cell.
Note that we actually don't know for sure whether "New Rho" is the name given to the planet by the locals or by the Houses — the only person who actually uses that name is Ianthe during her speech, so it may very well be the case that the Empire renamed New Rho unilaterally, and the name doesn't reflect what its actual inhabitants call it. I don't believe that's the case (because, again, it fits with other naming patterns BoE seem to have + to a lesser extent, I think there would have been hints in the text if that had been the case, extra jeerings from the crowd or whatever if they felt strongly that their planet had another name) I'm just bringing this up here for completion's sake.
About the trillionaires:
I've given a lot of thought to the demographic of the TLT fleet. Although IDK how widespread of an opinion this is in the fandom but, personally, I feel pretty strongly that the bunch of ultra-rich people who would have fleed Earth leaving everyone to die would NOT have been the kind of demographic keen to reference British colonialism.
Like, I think it's important to note that the "first wave" of ships that launched from Earth didn't seem to include ANY major politician from a Western country that we know of — they managed until the last moment to keep up the pretence that it was "just" the first of many trips, and to me the lack of panic points to the fact that many public figures weren't on board. The world leader John puppeteers is heavily implied to be the US president, and even he wouldn't have been on board. John's flashback arc pits him very strongly against the global north, but more than that — imo, it's telling that the only sympathetic governments he could get to listen to him were the NZ government and parts of Oceania. It wasn't just John vs. the West, or John vs. OECD countries. It was John vs. the uber-wealthy, and those exist all over the world.
What I'm getting at is: that the trillionaires weren't overwhelmingly white. Many of them would have been USamerican or British or European, but so many people on board those ships would have been Chinese, Indian, Middle Eastern, Russian, Thai etc. I'm thinking about 2024 data on List of countries by share of income of the richest one percent and List of cities by # of billionaires (keeping in mind also that in the NtN flashback arc, the stock market has crashed and the economy is in shambles. I would also assume that many Silicon Valley / tech fortunes have dramatically shrunk, and most "trillionaires" would be people who materially control access to resources.)
Basically what I'm getting at is that, TO ME, the TFL fleet was an escape pod put together by a group of people who had the means to decide they should save themselves and fuck everyone else, rather than a colonising project, and that most of them wouldn't be in a rush to identify themselves with the British empire. Many of them, maybe even a majority, wouldn't be white. They're the scifi equivalent of French noblemen fleeing the revolution. Uber-privileged people who became refugees.
Anyway. This is a book.
Everything I've written above explains why, TO ME, whoever on those ships made it out alive + successfully colonised a plane wouldn't be thinking about the British Empire in an especially positive light. However! TLT as a story doesn't exist in a vacuum, and Taz Muir (who exists in the world, and lives in Oxford) would 100% know who Cecil Rhodes is. I can absolutely believe that she settled on a Greek-mythology-inspired naming pattern and then, out of all the available options, decided to reference the colonialist whose statue got removed while she was writing the book.
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omgthatdress · 2 years
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Books about colonialism now that The Queen is dead:
Colonialism is, unsurprisingly, A BIG FUCKING SUBJECT, and any reading list is going to fall short. (if you want to get versed in anti-colonial theory, here’s a really good beginners list). Because of all this, I’m staying focused on British imperialism, and specifically, events that happened within The Queen’s lifetime.
Legacy of Violence: A History of the British Empire by Caroline Elkins
Ghosts of the Empire: Britain’s Legacies in the Modern World by Kwasi Kwarteng
The Blood Never Dried: A People's History of the British Empire by John Neswinger
Ornamentalism: How the British Saw Their Empire by David Cannadine
The Decline and Fall of the British Empire by Piers Brendan
Insurgent Empire: Anticolonial Resistance and British Dissent by Priyamvada Gopal
Empireland: How Imperialism has Shaped Modern Britain by Sathnam Sanghera.
The Brutish Museums: The Benin Bronzes, Colonial Violence, and Cultural Restitution by Dan Hicks
Rhodes Must Fall: The Struggle to Decolonize the Racist Heart of Empire by Brian Kwoba, Roseanne Chantiluke, and Anthinangamso Nkopo
Neo-Colonialism: The Last Stage of Imperialism by Kwame Nkrumah
Kohinoor: The Story of the World’s Most Infamous Diamond by William Dalrymple and Anita Anand
Mountbatten: Apprentice Warlord by Adrian Smith
The Great Partition: The Making of India and Pakistan by Yasmin Khan
Midnight’s Furies: The Deadly Legacy of India’s Partition by Nisid Hajari
Partition, podcast by Neha Aziz
Aboriginal Australians: A History Since 1788 by Richard Broome
Ka Whawhai Tonu Matou: Struggle Without End by by Ranginui Walker
The Hundred Years’ War on Palestine: A History of Settler Colonialism and Resistance by Rashid Khalidi
Nasser: The Last Arab by Saïd K. Aburish
The Cyprus Emergency: The Divided Island 1955-1974 by Nicholas van der Bijl
Histories of the Hanged: The Dirty War in Kenya and The End of Empire by David Anderson
Imperial Reckoning: The Untold Story of Britain’s Gulag in Kenya by Caroline Elkins
Rhodesia: A Complete History, 1890-1980 by Peter Baxter
Massacre in Malaya: Exposing Britain’s My Lai by Christopher Hale
Kill the Indian, Save the Man: The Genocidal Impact of American Indian Residential Schools by Ward Churchill
A National Crime: The Canadian Government and The Residential School System from 1879 to 1996 by John S. Milloy
Missing and Murdered: Finding Cleo, podcast by Connie Walker
The Troubles: Ireland’s Ordeal and the Search for Peace by Tim Pat Coogan
Making Sense of The Troubles: The Story of Conflict in Northern Ireland by David McKittrick and David McVea
Say Nothing: A True Story of Murder and Memory in Northern Ireland by Patrick Radden Keefe
There Was A Country: A Personal History of Biafra by Chinua Achebe
The Untold Story of the Nigeria-Biafra War by Luke Nnaemeka Ameke
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enriquemzn262 · 11 months
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I still can’t believe it isn’t a shitpost what air forces of the commonwealth did to their roundels, because:
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This is the original British roundel, simple yet iconic
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Then came Australia and just added a fucking kangaroo
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New Zealand copied their animal idea and added a kiwi.
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Meanwhile Canada played it safe and added their maple leaf.
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And the laziest of the bunch, Rhodesia (now Zimbabwe), which just added some spears on top of the OG roundel.
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postillfastill · 4 months
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Not supporting a two state solution to the palestinian genocide is not somehow fucking hateful. Wanting the israel state to not exist is not hateful no more than it is for an indigenous person to wish any other colonial state not exist. I don't want america or canada to exist because their existence was founded on the mass slaughter displacement and hundreds of years of subjugation of the othered population, and would not be ABLE to exist without that subjugation, not because it made white people move here. Wishing the state body that enabled the slaughter of ones people didn't exist isn't hateful to the settler population, it's a fucking pipe dream coping mechanism of indigenous peoples all over the world. I wish my people in mexico weren't wholebody erased! I wish my people in the states weren't forced from their homes into pathetic reservations! Hell, I wish my people in ireland weren't fucked by britain at every turn!
I wish the united states didnt exist! I wish new zealand didn't exist, i wish australia and south africa and rhodesia and brazil and any other state thats formation relied on the murder and subjugation of an othered population didn't exist! Because 'state' is not synonymous with 'people' you FUCKING moron! When people clutch at their pearls because palestinians and other indigenous activists wish israel et al didn't exist, they are seeing it from their skewed, racist perspective. To them, a state not existing means the physical land and the people plants and animals on it be razed to the ground, because that's what they're used to doing to others to maintain this 'state'. To indigenous populations who have lived on land for thousands of years without this 'state', we know what a state actually is; a government body of legislation and control that didnt just come from nowhere. That is what we mean by Land Back, what we mean by calling for a nation to not exist. Dismantle the states, return land taken to surviving peoples displaced from it, relinquish legislative control over the othered people. It doesn't mean fucking settler genocide, you sound like fucking rhodesians or those racist afrikaaners trying to convince ppl theyre getting white genocided bc apartheid ended.
You assume an end to your state means an end to your life because you're projecting as a racist, fascist nationalist. Sorreee.
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