#if someone thinks that it's more anti

[brsb4hls]

I'm not an active Peggy hater, nor am I deep in that side of the MCU, but I've seen a lot of posts, so I'm going to summarize what I've seen about her (pls take with a grain of salt since I'm going off of what I remember).

I've seen descriptive posts that detail why they think/why they know Peggy (and Howard) was involved with/knew about/allowed nazi activity that happened within S.H.I.E.L.D. and talk about how she worked with Nazis and allowed expierimentation canonically, and they dislike her for that. I've also seen people say that they don't like how actively Marvel was trying to push Captain Carter rather than Sam Wilson Captain America and that, sometimes combined with the first thing, makes a lot of people upset and generally the use of a white woman over the black man they've presented as the new Captain America in the mcu movies. There was apparently some controversy about just how much they were constantly promoting her over Sam and other characters on twitter, but I wasn't part of that, so I've only heard about it.

Then there's the Bucky aspect and people feeling that ever since Marvel realized Stucky was a ship, they've been trying to smother it. I've seen posts that say that the Captain Carter What if reuses a lot of the Winter Solider plot devices, but now under a romantic light because it's Peggy and Steve and not Steve with a man, so that rubs people the wrong way. And I've seen some people say that since she had a high position at S.H.I.E.L.D., combined with the other nazi stuff, she probably knew about Bucky and other Hydra things that she never tried to stop.

There's things I've seen lesser of like Peggy shooting at Steve in the first movie or her general characterization or oversaturation, and I'm sure those things also influence how they see Captain Carter because if they don't like one version of Peggy, I think it's reasonable to assume they don't like any version of her, no mater what the multiverse is.

That's all I can think of! Maybe someone else who actually knows more will do a better job than me. I would say you could go through the anti peggy tag, but I don't think you'd very easily find actual criticism posts, mostly just complaining since that's what anti tags are for lol

Ah ok, thank you. I do not feel the same about most of your points, but I do get them.

Personally I'd criticize the creators for pushing one character and ignoring another, that alone does not make me hate the character, but the narrative and the creative decisions.

With Sam Wilson it would be more a case of 'both', they could both play a role in what if, and the blame for Wilson not being included def falls on Feige, whatever reasons he might have.

(I absolutely do get being frustrated about a general lack of decent representation on all fronts, but well, Disney, so personally I nitpick what little we get).

The nazi stuff could be an actual turn off for me, but I know to little about that. The Cap movies aren't my personal faves so I might have missed stuff and I did not watch the solo show.

I should look into it tho, sounds like an interesting discussion.

Still makes me wonder on another level, since even Red Skull has a lot of fans (but then again, actual Nazis still exist, so there's that).

I appreciate you making the effort of gathering those points, anon, it's hard to get an actual answer on here, no matter the subject.

#peggy carter #captain carter #mcu #margaret carter #this is supposed to ve simply explanatory #so I didn't use the anti tag #if someone thinks that it's more anti #let me know #I'll change it then #anon ask #anonymous

[annabelle--cane]

say it with me everybody: personal health is completely immaterial to morality, including mental health. leading a mentally unhealthy lifestyle (or what you perceive as a mentally unhealthy lifestyle) does not a bad person make. no one has to socialize, exercise, have healthy coping mechanisms, or lead (what you perceive as) a fulfilling life with fulfilling hobbies in the same way that no one has to go to the doctor to get a broken bone reset. both of those types of management of personal health are likely to be beneficial to the individual, but they are in no way moral requirements or debts owed to society. they do not actually say anything about a person's principles, personality, or actions towards others. additionally, people know themselves and their own situations better than you do. maybe a person judges that the physical and financial toll of going to the doctor outweigh the benefit of getting their bone reset, maybe a person just does not have the capacity to develop healthy coping mechanisms at this point in their life, and yes, maybe a person feels like they are totally fulfilled by "media based" hobbies alone and would feel no difference in their life if they picked up a loom. just like. let people be sick without accusing them of being representative of the lazy, degenerated state of modern society.

#marina marvels at life #there's a way people on here have been talking about ai/tiktok/movies/anti intellectualism/media hobbies/self care that all jives together #that just. really icks me out. #sometimes it comes through pretty transparently with people claiming that you must have regular sex to be a healthy/good person #or conversely that people are more sex crazed now than they've ever been and it's destroying literacy or whatever #or that cheating at school is scandalously immoral and only 'soft brained' bad people would do it #or that collectivism means you have to dress the right way and feel the right way and talk the right way #because your actions affect Others and you might upset someone or give off bad messages if you wear a crop top or are too sad #but a lot of the time it's just this strange plausibly-deniable tone I keep encountering that crept up some time in like 2021 I think #like. am I going crazy here or has anyone else been feeling this?

[burnyourtrains]

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This means reposting without permission. Feeding into ai. Taking as your own. Not giving credit to the artist. Posting things that aren't yours in the first place. Etc.

This goes for fanart, original pieces from the artist, writing, gifsets - anything someone took the time to make.

Stop stealing art

#stop stealing art #stop reposting others art #art #anti ai #anti assholes #i thought tumblr understood it better than other platforms. but apparently fucking not #if i see one more piece of art that i think is beautiful. only to scroll down and see taken from so and so on Instagram. #i am going to Throttle someone #i am looking at the acotar fandom specifically rn. I'm just trying to enjoy more about the books. only to find that everything has been #reposted from somewhere else. most of the time they at least credit the artist. but dude it isn't Yours to repost #my post #clearly i feel strongly and passionately about this topic

[rofax]

I took a piece of art from my journal like, 2 years ago, and re-did it digitally bc it has been feeling ESPECIALLY POIGNANT LATELY.

#ro talks #art #line art #self love #you're here for more than that babes!! #you're not here to be attractive and demure and unobjectionable to others #your main value is not how young you look or how closely you mirror what is on the media #there is fucking more to life than anti aging #than going to work every day just to make ends meet #than constantly fighting your body because you think it should take up less space #take it from someone who had to stare her own mortality in the face #when that time comes #you aren't going to be wishing you were just a little prettier or a little smaller or had paid all your bills #you're going to wish you'd had more time with your loved ones #with your friends #your family #your pets #your hobbies #i know we live in a capitalist hellscape and you can't just #opt out #you have to work to pay bills and all that #but don't let it be your whole world #you're worth so much more than that #take care of you first #fuck the ideal body or face #fuck your boss #(not literally please) #take! care! of! you!!!!!

[watcherintheweyr]

desperately need people to understand that alicent is a victim but she’s also an abuser and a perpetrator

that she actively makes choices to harm other women because of jealousy and envy and the greed deep in her bones because submitting to suffering didn’t get her what those women fight to grasp for themselves.

she is absolutely a victim, in show.

that doesn’t change that she abused rhaenyra and her children, her own son, most likely helaena given how she flinches every time her mother touches her, and is actively weaponizing the patriarchy of westeros against other women- rhaenyra primarily, but also mysaria and dyana.

she isn’t the moral, righteous force of good that even she thinks she is, she’s a wounded woman directing all of the rot, pain, and fury inside her at the wrong people and forces.

#anti team green stans #anti team green #anti alicent hightower stans #i don’t wanna say it’s anti alicent bc honestly it’s more ‘accept her for who she is bc she’s so much more complex and interesting when you #but i made this bc someone genuinely tried to say that the reason people hate her is that they don’t see her as a victim #most rational people know show!alicent is a victim #it’s the point that’s she’s an abuser as well #that makes them dislike her #that she’s a hypocrite and a traitor #i don’t even like young alicent bc i don’t at all think she was a good friend to rhaenyra #‘it’s not your place to question the plots of lords and men’ to the named heir #dismisses rhaenyra’s hopes and idealism entirely out of hand #is baffled that rhaenyra is more worried for her fathers happiness and mother’s wellbeing than her position #she knew as early as ep 3 that otto was conspiring against rhaenyra and never told anyone #condemns ‘targaryen customs’ only to wed her daughter to her son even younger than she was when otto dangled her before viserys #acts entitled to rhaenyras secrets whilst condemning and judgemental even though she did not give rhaenyra that same courtesy #made no attempt at apology for the insensitive comment of aegon’s birth #though rhaenyra DID try to apologize for the ‘imprisoned in a castle’ line and tried to comfort her #uses her power as queen to push past the space rhaenyra is trying to create because she feels heartbroken and betrayed #rhaenyra took part in alicent’s culture with prayer at alicent’s urging because she cared about alicent and alicent was trying to help her #alicent is never once shown to return that favor instead condemning it for ‘queerness’ and growing to later #erase and remove all targaryen and valyrian heraldry from the red keep to replace with her own #like alicent is a victim and i DO have empathy for her. but i don’t like her and never will #especially not after the way her stans behave #she deserved better than otto’s machinations and viserys’…. viserysness #but that can also be true whilst i condemn her actions and behaviors

[girluimfailing]

Some Tim stans r fucking crazy wtf

#girl... r u sure YOURE not the onw having a hissy fit? #attacking someone just because you think your character is superior #WHITE character superior to 2 poc characters if i may #like no thx weirdo #anti tim drake #damian wayne #cassandra cain #twitter is crazyy #LOL im like a snitch #but wtf is this #the original poster also clarified this isnt a dig at damian just that cass makes more sense as the next batman #and most damian fans agree too #but this tim drake fan came and started yelling abt how tim better than both #💀💀 #and then a dig at batman damian outta nowhere even tho the og tweet clearly said they dont like damian batman #DID WE ALL JUST COLLECTIVELY FORGET ABT GUN BATMAN TIM #SAVIOR TIM? #R YALL CRAZY?..

[ofbreathandflame]

Elain stans have such a weird relationship with Nuala and Cerridwen and I genuinely can't tell if they just choose not to look at the optics of that dynamic or what...

#like the whole situation with emerie is terrible but boy oh boy is the nuala and cerridwen think like thirty times more out of line #like i earnestly need someone to tell me what there personality are? which is nuala and which one is cerridwen? #'elain and them are besties!' #elain was their job #they are quite literally servants with no personality #'and nuala and c are gonna dress elain' #right....bc yall want them to handmaidens to elain not her friends #tell me one thing we know - in five and a half books - about nuala and cerridwen #and the only time we even learn backstory about them #its when amren and f/eyre are going on a pretty nasty joke spree on their conception #'at least they make good spies' like pls don't piss me off #anti sjm #anti sjm: nuala and cerridwen #like (1) if you go through their tags its just elain.elain.elain.elain #like yall are nooooot winnning the optics war #anti sjm: stans being stans #and even though i think sjm is to blame - I'm not placing this all on her #i think some of yall are just weird

[moonlightdancer26]

Me when I defend Snape so much and remember that Snaters brush me off as just “some Snape apologist” even though I actually have so many criticisms of his awful actions, love his deep-rooted flaws and complexities, love to analyse how much his horrible childhood shaped him out to be for the rest of his life and how it turned him into what he hated most (a bully), and usually the only times I defend him are when his haters misconstrue what he did and make up fanon claims about him, not because I can’t handle when they say anything bad about a character I love, but because I simply can’t handle when people misunderstand his character (for better or for worse):

#it’s not my fault that snape antis make up a bunch of unreasonable things abt him during their arguments #like #just because i correct you about the blatantly incorrect things you say about him does NOT mean that i brush off his actually-canon flaws #like i obviously love him for all his flaws #i just dislike when ppl make false claims abt him and use them as reasons to hate him when there are way better arguments you can use #i hate when ppl think i’m just a snape d-rider like no i actually just understand him more than you ever will #ugh please tell me someone understands what i feel #i think snape is a total a$$hole but if you say anything WRONG about him i WILL correct you on it (whether you use it to defend him or not) #anti snaters #severus snape #pro snape #pro severus snape #snape #harry potter #hp

[existencebringsonlypain]

I may have posted about this before, but I don't understand the whole proshipper/anti debate. As far as I understand, I'm on the side of proshippers (i think fiction is fiction and doesn't have to reflect reality. because it's fiction.), but what I don't get is why there's such a clear defined binary, and why there's such animosity between the two. It's just a difference in opinion, like any other, isn't it? I understand that either group can "take it too far" (though i dont really get how proshippers could be TOO okay with problematic ships). but i really think either viewpoint is fine to a degree, they both have logic behind them, and it's just a matter of preference, isn't it?

#what i think i'm getting about why proshippers dislike antis so much is the restrictiveness? #but i dont. i doubt antis really want. like. any problematic relationship to either be eradicated or punished. #i'm willing to guess it's closer to “i don't want relationships that have issues + the narrative doesn't provide anything to challenge them #for me i think that's just kinda uninteresting storytelling but it shouldn't be BANNED. yk. #the idea of fiction is getting to see the world from another perspective. #and some perspectives are fucked up. that's just a fact. in fact it's often more fun to read fiction from someone who's “morally wrong” #because you get to see how they tie themself into knots to justify their actions. #but i completely get why someone might not like that. sometimes it's difficult to read a story where the pov is an asshole. #so just don't read it! it doesn't have to be a big deal! i dont get it #existenceunrelateds #antis #proship #proshipper #antiship #antishipper #proshippers please interact #antis please interact #i want group discussion!

[musclesandhammering]

We need to have a serious conversation about how it’s gotten to the point where folks immediately saying “you hate female characters so much don’t you” anytime someone says anything negative whatsoever about one, is actually protecting film studios from being held accountable for the subpar ways they write & portray women.

#you cannot just dismiss someone as a misogynist every single time they critique a female character #because A LOT of the time (especially when the critique-er is a woman) #those critiques are based on the fact that the character is written poorly & depicted in a counterproductive way #I get it when you love a minority character you sorta have an instant defensive reaction anytime someone doesn’t also love them #but we need to try to use a bit more critical thinking is all I’m saying #what if #mcu #marvel #cbm #captain carter #anti captain carter #wanda maximoff #anti wanda maximoff #anti sylvie

[ilovefredjones]

i’m always thinking about how dal never knew his parents and the only mother figure he had sold him into slavery as a child and then it turns out he never even had parents, he was just a failed experiment. and then his next mother figure is simply a hologram of a famous admiral who then deceives him before ‘dying’. but the real janeway cares for him so much, and defends and advocates for him in court and wants him to join her crew

#this is not anti holo janeway btw i love her it’s just. as soon as they gain a parent they immediately lose her #sometimes i think about how they modified holo janeway so they could hug her. someone get these kids some parental figures STAT #just. dal having to sleep in the engine and literally being SOLD INTO SLAVERY #after never knowing who he even was #feeling so worthless his entire life #yet finally finding his purpose among his crew on the protostar #and being taken under THE admiral janeways wing #he justtttt. does such a good job at being captain #he cares for his crew so much #bc he knows what it’s like to be forgotten and cast aside!! they all do!! #and cares for them and protects them and just loves them more than anything in the world #and he’s no longer a failed experiment but a confident leader! who’s not alone anymore! #ohhhhh i love him #star trek #star trek prodigy #dal r'el

[twilight-deviant]

Telling content creators it's wrong to explore artistic freedom and be independently funded by fans, and they should instead continue taking advertisement revenue from google* is

NOT

the anti-capitalism stance actually.

*(Yes, google owns youtube.)

#Watcher #This post is specifically and exclusively about the people who seem to have the capitalism bit wrong #It's almost fascinating how no one is hearing themselves speak #I feel like some of you don't understand WHY we support small businesses and are anti-monopoly #I've seen multiple posts saying “Shane is so anti-capitalism there's no way this was his idea.” #So... you think it's pro-capitalism to start your own business instead of relying on pennies from the exploitative mega-corporation? #Guys... we support small businesses KNOWING it will cost the consumer more #Stop thinking you're entitled to someone's product #That's what got us in this mess #I understand $6 is a lot for many many people but that is what makes certain things a luxury #Nothing used to be this way #Nothing used to be “free” so you can be monitored for your viewing habits and sold to advertisers #If you see a little guy trying to leave youtube/google and you paint them as the capitalist??? You. have. taken. a. wrong. turn. #I don't know how many more ways I can say it #It is better to support someone (if you can) than to pressure them into taking money from the trillion-dollar corporation #so that you can have what they put all their blood/sweat/tears into for free #If you want something badly enough you're going to have to pay for it #Them's the breaks #If you don't want it that badly then maybe it didn't mean enough to you personally #Thinking otherwise is how corporations like youtube take over and squeeze out small competitors #btw on monopolies: having almost every single video content creator (outside of tiktoks and video game streams) on youtube is BAD #You understand that's bad yes? #How tf are we going to diversify unless SOME CREATORS leave youtube??? #It's almost the responsibility of larger creators to do so #Ironically what I said is backwards #In its ideal state‚ capitalism is supposed to inspire innovation and new business‚ giving every person a chance to succeed #But I think we all know that's not the reality we're experiencing #I just went with what everyone means when they say it

[mrsoftthoughts]

One day more on my goal to not acknowledge The Sun and The star as canon ( the worst part of this thing it's that is official content)

#i don't even hate it as a read #it's ok ig #but i refuse to think that this thing it's more than a fanfic ooc and with a bad planned plot #honesly this book was just wasted potential for see Nico and Will relationship since the start or them having an actual plot for them #instead this is just a try to make them a percabeth 2.0 #i like their relationship but we never get to see how they actually got together and we only got to see their dynamic with Apollo #who is not only an unreliable but also someone out of the relationship #anti tsats #nico di angelo #will solace #pjo #hoo #toa #solangelo #Mrs soft rambling

[sk1fanfiction]

on dursley revisionism

Random people with wrong opinions: "Harry wasn't abused by the Dursleys" (bonus points for 'just neglected', which is a type of child abuse btw or 'that's all fanon')

Things that the Dursleys canonically did that are abuse just off the top of my head:

Swung a frying pan at his head (at the age of 12)

Grabbed him by the neck and basically tried to strangle him (even light pressure to the neck can cause internal damage)

Starved him

Verbally abused him

Locked him alone in a small cramped space as punishment (which can cause permanent psychological damage btw, and that's in adults. It is literally a type of torture.)

Made him sleep in that same small cramped unhealthy space when they had an extra bedroom

Encouraged their son to bully him and beat him up

Left him to be possibly attacked by a vicious dog

Bonus: Hid the evidence of his existence to outsiders and didn't speak about him to others (a typical thing for abusers to do)

And more. That boy is unrealistically well-adjusted.

I know the shitty guardian trope is so common in British children's lit (think Roald Dahl) that it became normalized, but it's not. It's abuse. I am worried for the children in your lives tbh.

#harry james potter #hp metas #this is so prevalent and weird #i sometimes forget how unhinged the dursleys are myself but it's so weird to imply this is not abuse. like #i saw someone say they were not 'cruel' #also a lot of people will literally deny canon and insist that he wasn't physically abused. he was #i think it's because it's treated in such a casual manner #yes the books are narrated in a way that normalizes it but it's through harry's pov of course he (sadly) thinks that's normal #vernon and petunia didn't deserve that mini redemption arc #they would do it all over again to another kid #neither of them have any redeeming qualities whatsoever #anti dursleys #i could say more about how good people in hp canon are portrayed not to have any lasting effects of trauma #whereas only villains have mental illnesses #but that's a whole other rant #tw: abuse

[ilynpilled]

i can fully understand the gripes with certain misogynistic tropes/writing issues that are present in the execution of some of cersei’s writing, but i will never understand the “she should have a redemption arc” or “she should be more likeable/less morally dark” perspective. that is not what her character is or has to be to make it great. wanting more female anti-heroes or “redemption arcs” with moral greyness and complexity of the level that asoiaf gives to primarily male characters is entirely understandable, but do some of you people even like cersei as a character, like at its core? like this is not about criticising the execution of certain things when it comes to this character, this is about taking issue with her as a villain fundamentally, which i just do not agree with at all

#i also do not understand why she is juxtaposed only w her brothers #in this respect #like if u wanna take issue w not as many female anti heroes that r allowed the level of true moral greyness of j theon etc i get that #but thats a whole text problem like a family isnt a monolith they r different characters with different drives its not a competition between #them #all three r dealing w some very very diff things too like they r distinct characters #and i honestly dont think cersei’s character set up works with a redemption story like she specifically is way more interesting as she is #she is a discussion of tropes when it comes the ‘female villain’ and u can take issue w the execution but i like the concept a lot #like she is written the way she is for a reason why do u want her to be a different character entirely #like if u want this why not advocate for george making a female character whose story would actually work with the redemption trope instead #of making their writing weaker and less trope busting #ig i just really like with cersei the idea that her being an evil perpetrator doesnt erase her being a victim of misogyny and vice versa #like i like that challenge that she is deserving of sympathy for these things without the need to redeem her or make her ‘likeable’ #patriarchal violence will affect all women #and the story deserves to work just as well with someone u r not supposed to root for #its about the humanization of these people #evil doesnt exist in a vacuum #and it makes perfect sense that these specific systemic conditions create it #and then perpetuate it

[icegoddessrukia]

You know, so much of the fandom bashes Katara harshly for one harsh comment she made in The Southern Raiders to Sokka, when she was highly upset about her mother's death and she felt Sokka was dismissive of her feelings (which he kind of was, to be honest) and they go on about how unfair it is that Sokka didn't get an apology. Meanwhile, I've never seen any fans complain about how Zuko literally says the most disrespectful thing about Aang's culture (the "this isn't air temple preschool" comment) when he's literally the prince of the imperial nation that wiped out Aang's entire culture in the first place. Aang is just supposed to let that slide and no one in the Gaang defends him either. He never gets an apology for his culture and religion being mocked by an imperialist. Zuko is two years older than Katara here and this is after he went through the Day of Black Sun development when he realized that the Fire Nation were horrible to the other nations. There's no excuse for Zuko being such an asshole to Aang but I guess because he's Zuko, he gets a free pass while Katara has to be bashed forever for saying something unfair when she was traumatized and no one was really listening to her.

#Zuko Critical #anti-zuko #pro-Katara #pro-Aang #katara defense squad #aang defense squad #atla discourse #zuko criticism #I could also go on about how the entire Gaang mocked Aang for his religious/cultural beliefs when he was about to fight Ozai #which was somehow okay #but if someone did that to Sokka or Zuko fandom would be pissed off #and the way Sokka was a jerk to Katara so many times especially in Book 1 never gets brought up either #where was her apology? #Sokka critical #not that much but just to be safe #I don't blame Aang btw he did try to empathize but it wasn't enough for Katara in that moment #I don't feel Zuko's way was the solution either at all btw #I just think Katara needed to process her hurt but because she's a more sensitive person no one was really getting it