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dotted-clouds · 20 days
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melasy · 4 months
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holleighgram · 9 months
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Would be pretty wild if Sora's memories of Riku are his light, and be losing them, he is also losing the light in his heart that makes him the loving Sora we all know?
Take Repliku for example- there was no Ansem in Repliku. The main thing about Repliku was that his memories of Sora were messed with.
And it made him a MASSIVE dick that just wanted marinate in Darkness.
Memories of Sora are integral to him being a good person.
What if the reverse is the same?
We all know Sora's Darkness is more prominent the more the story progresses and it's gearing up to be something he is going to grapple with. Sora has been burying trauma and hurt. He has actively been CHOOSING to forget these heartbreaking memories.
In fact, I think this memories loss/light loss is going to be a VERY important theme in the next saga.
This story is about balancing extremes.
Sora WANTS to forget the "Dark" parts of his and Riku’s relationship. But he cant just sift memories of Riku apart to forget the "Dark" and keep only the "Light".
So by willing away those Dark memories, he's unwittingly willing away Light memories as well.
Which is why we see him forget Riku's Sacrifice, and then also Riku's Light leading him back to the Graveyard.
A "Dark" memory is repressed, and so is a "Light" one.
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If, for whatever reason, Sora IS losing his memories of Riku-- particularly the memories of Riku being his light- it has a very negative affect on his heart? We could even see Sora temporarily becoming an antagonist.
We've fought Riku as Sora so many times. It would just be a sweet thematic balance to be able to fight Sora as Riku in order to save him.
It's been said over and over that these two art intertwined-- that they balance each other. Their memories of eachother a formative peices of their hearts. They have each shaped eachother into the person they are.
And imnlaying it all out on the table here: this is why I (personally) feel their relationship (romantic or platonic) is the central theme of the story rather than any other characters:
They are eachorher's light AND their darkness.
Their greatest joy and deepest sorrow.
Their best friend and hardest enemy. (Fighting Ansem and Xehenort weren't nearly as emotionally arduous to fight)
This is a story about accepting both, because that means accepting the entirety of the people you love-- the good and the bad. The light and the dark.
This post got away from me. What was I saying?
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starlightwayfinder · 2 months
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I decided to watch some old KH trailers in honor of the anniversary today, and I have to admit, I don’t think I ever rewatched this one after the release of Melody of Memory. When it was first revealed, we were under the assumption that the Master of Masters was the opponent Kairi was facing, but as we now know, it was actually Master Xehanort. While we were aware that the Master of Masters has more plans and tricks up his sleeve, to think of this line in the context of Xehanort is a little different. It brought to mind an old theory of mine, so I decided to go back to KH3, Re:Mind, KHDR, and MoM to compile as much evidence as possible for it.
(As a disclaimer, it slightly undermines the authenticity of his ‘conclusion’ in KH3, so if you’re a big fan of that scene, feel free to skip this one.)
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This line in KH3 is a good place to start. From the get go, it was established that Xehanort planned for nearly every possible outcome of the Keyblade War. I also think it’s safe to say that every action he made was an intentional choice based on these plans. So the question is, what is the “final plan” referenced in Melody of Memory’s trailer? I think the game gave us the answer:
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It may be easy to jump to the conclusion that this was just a plan for revenge, since Sora is the one who stopped Xehanort to begin with. However, I want to reaffirm that every action he takes is for a reason that serves his goals. It wasn’t just a plan to make Sora disappear, but likely to make him disappear to Quadratum specifically.
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This was even foreshadowed in KH3’s Toy Box world. Young Xehanort sends Sora to the world of Verum Rex—though it’s probably closer to a “data” version in this instance:
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YX in particular is very confident that Sora’s overuse of the Power of Waking will lead to his disappearance:
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And MX has a similar line in Re:Mind:
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Except this is where things get interesting. The Sora in Re:Mind is time-traveling from a point in time after he defeated Xehanort.
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Xehanort must know this, because he sees the real Sora (from this point in time) about to begin the final battle in the distance. He then acknowledges that the Sora he’s speaking to is from the future. Unless he witnesses the present Sora time travel during their final confrontation, he can conclude that Sora survives their fight to time travel later on—meaning his plan doesn’t come to fruition. Sora unknowingly reveals his hand in Re:Mind this way, and opens the door for Xehanort to plan accordingly—which is kind of mind-breaking to think about…
It gets even better here, during Sora’s fight with Terra-Xehanort:
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Sora brags that, like Xehanort, he can also time travel. To which Xehanort responds that Sora will then also need to make the “ultimate sacrifice”, or in other words, “pay the ultimate price”, as MX said. “Also”—as in, Xehanort has made this sacrifice as well by time traveling. As in, Xehanort will also disappear to Quadratum.
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We have evidence to believe that as well. I also like the interpretation that he intentionally planned this to survive the world being purged, but that’s kind of a separate theory.
So to recap, Xehanort was probably aware that Sora would survive their final confrontation in order to time travel afterwards. He correctly predicts that the consequence for time traveling would be to disappear… specifically to Quadratum—something that Melody of Memory considers his “final plan”.
So… why? Why would he want Sora to also disappear to Quadratum? Trying to answer that question leads to the most controversial part of this theory:
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It’s really nice to believe that Xehanort gave Sora the X-blade as an admission of his defeat, and I’m definitely not against that interpretation. But it is a little strange that before—and after—this scene, in Melody of Memory, he continues to act like making Sora disappear was his big plan. It doesn’t feel right, if he was supposed to be letting Sora “win” here.
I’ll be very curious to see if Xehanort has a role in Quadratum, and why exactly he “paved the way” for Sora to be there as well. Either way, I am holding out for a geniune change of heart from him, especially if what we saw in KH3 was more of a manipulation.
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mythicalartistx · 3 months
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The Bad ending after the Yozora fight is interesting since a part of Dearly Beloved is silent...
How much more proof do people need to say Dearly Beloved is the theme of Sora and Riku whatever you want to believe it is romantic or platonic?
Back in Dream Drop Distance it was established Dearly Beloved was the song that plays when their hearts are in tune and connected.
Each of them haves a distinguished separate part of the song, however during the bad end of the Yozora fight, Sora's part is silent and only Riku's part is playing.
Sora's part being silent in the bad "non canon" ending shows further proof showing that Dearly beloved is the tune of two people, one being Sora and the other is Riku if for some reason you missed that in DDD
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The bad ending even have the quote that Yozora says that Sora once also said silent in this version. I've been having these weird thoughts lately like is any of this for real or not?
In the bad non canon ending Yozora only says this, Sora is silent.
Now in the good ending, you can hear both parts of dearly beloved because he lives and he also says the opening line from KH1 along with Yozora.
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Though I have my own theory about that line that has to also do with the mobile games... regarding the reality Sora is from not being real reality and is just part of data which is why they can easily travel through data.
And the real world— the world the dandelions escaped from is Quadratum where all magic basically faded from the area. It's also why people can easily come back to life. However this theory it's probably easily disproven since Strelitzia is also there.
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nikutsuneart · 1 year
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The Sleeping Realm Theory’s 4th Anniversary!!
Hey everyone, I don’t think i’ve ever made a formal post here (on I guess my art account??) about the good ol Sleepy Boy Theory. I figured I might as well with the anniversary but as of today, it’s 4 years old! Where DOES the time go?
A lot has happened since this bad boy (several releases for one and a global pandemic for two), and as the official keeper of the crypt I’d like to thank everyone who has shared their Love and even their Great Distaste for it over the years. It’s wild to think it still lives on as such a footnote in this series’ history that I still saw people seething about it just last week.
It’s been discussed around the world as well as translated into more than one language! It’s a global reach I’ll never fully grasp, a talking point for people I’ll never meet, and it’s something that I’m immensely proud of!
To this day we’ve made points and discussed findings I still don’t see anybody ever talk about, like the kbg world logo or the location of Kairi’s heart. And if that sounds new to you, may I recommend checking it out once more and peeping those cool updates
~THE OFFICIAL SLEEPY BOY DOCUMENT~
And for those who don’t wanna sit and read, there’s a mostly up to date video format where me and AuroraPeachy read thru it together!
Part 1 - Part 2 - Part 3 - Part 4
Anyway all that’s to say happy birthday to what amounts to a kingdom hearts college thesis! Here’s to another year of not being debunked somehow 🥂
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embraceyourdestiny · 7 months
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tell me about the two vanitases. vaniti
Post I made a while ago about it (might be slightly awkward / messy bc it’s from 2 years ago) :)
Essentially, at the end of bbs Vanitas and ven have a “battle of hearts” (similar to Roxas and sora in kh2) and Vanitas, as the weaker heart, loses and retreats back into his “origin”, ven’s heart. We see sparkles dissipate into vens stain glass, signifying that Vanitas has become embedded into ven’s heart. THEN ven becomes embedded in Sora’s heart, thus making a sort of matryoshka effect inside of sora;
sora<-(inside, ven [<-inside, vanitas])
Cut to ddd where sora is DEEP inside his own heart and thus coming across a lot of shit embedded within. Including Vanitas who appears as a fractured vision saying Sora’s heart is a prison “even if he’s not the prisoner.” Upon hearing this most people’s immediate thought would be *terra/aqua voice* ven!! But most people miss the hidden layer (cleverness intended) that would also mean Vanitas since he’s inside ven. Of course if someone is locked inside a prisoner in jail that also means they’re in the prison, whether them also being locked up was intentional or not
Cut to kh3. The first instance we see Vanitas is monsters inc. but we don’t see Vanitas first, we see the manifestation of his power because as he explains he needed enough energy to come back to life. The clever part about this is this only happens because sora is there with ven in his heart, thus physically bringing Vanitas’s heart to a place where he can regenerate and, if the plan works out, extract himself/ven from Sora’s body. There’s an extra bonus that the power becomes even more potent by upsetting sora and therefor having a STRONG sense of negativity which had been building in our poor boy all game, and as Ansem The Wise said, sora is able to make things be real and that means he was able to make Vanitas come back to life without whatever Xehanort did to make him, even though he didn’t mean to
Then Vanitas gets bodied by scully and thrown into a door, seemingly gone forever
Then like 3 seconds later we see him again in the land of departure. But. Wait. Didn’t scully just throw him to somewhere in Connecticut?
Act II: The second Vanitas
This Vanitas is a replica Xehanort pulled from the post. Xehanort had no fucking clue where Vanitas went after bbs bc he just disappears and honestly he clearly didn’t care because hes always known could just make another one so he does. The reason I know this isn’t monsters inc Vanitas is because one that’s impossible, it was 100% intentional this scene happens after yeetus Vanitas, and two Vanitas acts. Different. For one he’s much more brazen than he was in MI, instead of just his long winded monologuing he’s actually goading them on and being arrogant and feisty and trying to fight, immediately transporting us back to the kind of personality he had before. You know. Ven kicked his ass. And he also teleports and does magic and is way stronger than MI Vanitas because that Vanitas had just formed. There’s no possible way he had all his strength back after being rebirthed for 3 seconds so the fact that he was able to hold his own against aqua who’s been fighting nonstop for 10 years definitely raises an eyebrow and points to this theory because how was that possible and why didn’t he fight in MI if this was the case.
Some people have pointed out that it’s weird Vanitas wears a cloak of darkness in MI and thinking about it I think there’s two answers. The first is he was weak and I think it’s possible the cloak could protect him, esp if he’s not fully darkness anymore bc he has his own heart, has regenerated on his own instead of being extracted by Xehanort’s dark power, and was touched by two very powerful lights for like 10 years (they probably got their light cooties on him lol) and two, I think he was hiding from Xehanort. Vanitas likely knew of his plan since his conception even though he might not have fully understood was it was and therefore he would’ve known what was going on in kh3 and been like “shit. I’m not following the plan bc I’m not even a part of the plan anymore so Xehanort can’t find out.” Because if you remember in com DiZ says the cloaks can hide you from anyone and if Xehanort knew Vanitas was back he would at the very least force him to do his plan again or at the worst destroy him because he’s an unknown factor
Then sora fights replica Vanitas and he goes back into the past and somewhere out there Vanitas is walking around the streets of New York (or shibuya) having no clue what the fuck is going on
So yes. Two Vanitases bc we can’t get enough of this boy. Two of them
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hexxter · 7 days
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Ok but what if Ephemer’s and Player’s hearts are like literally connected (really really literally)
Maybe like, small pieces of each other heart being traded, or i guess other magical ways
So if the theory of Sora being the third reincarnation of the player.. (even tho I don’t like this theory cause both deserves to have their heart, specifically Sora with his heart hotel moments)
Maybe thats how Ephemer soul showed up in KH3? Cause the connection to player that stayed within Sora, this theory pretty common right?
And if thats works one way, could also go the other way no?
Ephemer summoning the Player’s soul with the hearts connection. Maybe even unintentionally, suddenly poof the player is there as a ghost!
Sounds like interesting angst. Maybe thats would be also like.. why the player took pretty long to reincarnated to missing link area cause Ephemer was still around so Player’s soul tied up to his heart.
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the-blue-wraith · 9 months
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I still can't let go of my theory that Larxene really never lost her true memories and still remembered everything that happened in KHUX. What if that's her "secret" that she mentioned before vanishing in KH3? What if her memories as Elrena still remained and she still remembered who Marluxia was in the past and that drove her to join in the Organization? What if that was also the reason that drove her to be traitorous partners with him in Castle Oblivion? Since Nomura stated that she was just tagging along with him.
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azurajae · 3 months
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Thinking about the fact that right after Sora finished fighting in what probably a very traumatic war, he fucking time travels to experience it all again, not only as himself, but as different people and inheriting all their pain and trauma in the process. And if you count the first failed attempt, Sora has straight up experienced three different versions of the same damn war and all the trauma that came with all three of them just to make sure everyone he cares about makes it to the end, knowing fully well he was going to "die" in the end.
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While everyone else was experiencing their happy ending and a chance to put down their weapons, Sora literally never stopped fighting.
And his reward for all this? Being ripped apart from everyone and everything he knows, with no easy way back home. It's actually incredible that he can still have the mental fortitude to smile in the Secret Episode after all that.
I really hope all this trauma gets unpacked in KH4 or in a future game because I think it's so sad that he has collected all this pain, not only of his own experiences but everyone else's too and now is just holding on to it all.
I want Sora to be happy, but I don't want pain to be hiding behind it.
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starrduzt · 10 months
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What would Sora's actual keyblade look like??
okay, guys, hear me out.
All the keyblade wielders can manifest a keyblade that is uniquely theirs as a reflection of their heart, marked by their character symbol as the keychain. It doesn't matter if this person was officially bequeathed. Y'know like Kairi, Roxas and Axel.
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Now, we know that once it's summoned, the keyblade can be used by anyone. For example, The Master of Masters keyblade being passed down through teachers to their students since ancient times, Eraqus' keyblade to Aqua, and Mickey's keyblade to Riku.
Let's focus on Riku's for a second.
In KH3, Way to the Dawn breaks in the realm of darkness. Then Mickey makes a whole new keyblade and gives it to Riku to use for the time being, so he's got something to fight with. Riku is able to use this keyblade with no issues and no drawbacks - as if it were his own. But what's that on the keychain?
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Mickey's character symbol. Sure, Riku's using it just fine, but it's still not his and it's not a reflection of his heart. Thanks to the wayfinder trio in BBS, we know keyblades can grow and change with the wielder's heart, and even old ones can be reforged again when the person really goes deep into their own heart. So Riku has the ability to resummon Way to the Dawn with a few tweaks to match his current self.
Now lets assume Mickey's symbol is also just the overarching world symbol cause ✨️Disney✨️ and alla dat. Sora's keyblade was summoned after touching the light within Riku.
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Sora's keyblade is not his, but the Keyblade of the Realm of Light. It's the keyblade born from the realm just as the Kingdom Key D is born from the realm of darkness. (Later on Riku says his keyblade went to Sora, just cause he was the closest nearby BUT in the same breath he also says only one person can wield a keyblade soo.... I'm not inclined to believe him.) This is further supported by the X-Blade, which is supposed to be the ultimate convergence of light and dark, is just two Kingdom Keys. Also the only keyblade that has Sora's character symbol, is associated more closely with Riku so that design is kicked out.
Sooo.... if Sora's keyblade is just being borrowed, what would his own actually look like?
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thefreshprinceofjunes · 5 months
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(+ also herc/megara and esmeralda/phoebus)
‼️ CONTAINS KH3/RE:MIND SPOILERS ‼️
soriku week 2023 day 5, opposites attract (free day)
HAPPY BELATED SORIKU DAY (12/07)!!!!!!!!!!!
just over 35 minutes of soriku and disney princess couple parallels!!! 😎
this is basically a video compilation of a bunch of my kh metas/gifsets LOL
im aware it doesnt rly fit the theme of 'opposites attract' but w/e, princesses and princes are opposites. kind of. i mostly wanted to post this for soriku day bc its the content ive put the most work into for the week (even tho im posting it v late. damn u SAD)
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imminent-danger-came · 9 months
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So, the "Death of the Immortal" poem
...and though undying, took last breath immortal Laurelion was no more. White as the star's heart it pierced, ivory draconic brought death's bite known ever forth as the "Novablade"
And then Callum specifically describes the Novablade as "A weapon that can end a Startouch Elf's mortal existence". So whatever that means is up for debate (perhaps an immortal would simply become capable of death ((mortal)) rather than die), but it sounds like the Novablade has to go specifically through the heart of the immortal.
And
If Aaravos' chest piece, or heart, wasn't with him but actually inside the cube...then stabbing Aaravos himself might not work. But destroying the cube would.
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holleighgram · 11 months
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Shamelessly based on my earlier post
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ok4ru · 22 days
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I think Sora's reality is a game in the quadratum world. It would make sense since Yozora is perceive as a video game in his world.
Then, when they first meet, they already know each other but what find interesting Yozora seems shock by that it’s Sora but I think because mostly of his appearance. In his world video game could look how he originally looks in the KH4 trailer.
I also feel like that draws back to the line of Yozora saying that the form that he was in isn’t what he looks like. Now, I don’t know why people to take this line as being “Oh, Yozora is somebody else.” like no. He just has whole different appearance like kh4 Sora…
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mythicalartistx · 8 months
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Sometimes I randomly will think of how they really missed out on having Vanitas and Riku interact...
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Like how would he interact if he was there with Sora, Ven, and Vanitas. Like then Vanitas' mask comes off.
Remember when Riku had that bizarre WHAAAAAAAT at the possibility Aqua was another Sora. And at this point everyone knows Sora also had Ven's heart too.
So for him to just see another Sora except he looks much like him bark darker shades, would just have been really interesting.
Like so many missed opportunities, he could honestly rile him up based on his insecurities and how darkness took over him and how he sent the island to darkness.
And he has Sora's face so it's going to be THAT MUCH HARDER.
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Also even the fact we didn't see the dark riku on the organization's side interact with Vanitas is another crime itself.
THEY WERE ON THE SAME SIDE SO HOW COME WE DIDN'T SEE THAT!?
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Okay to be fair Vanitas didn't interact with much of the others either— which is still a crime...
Don't get me wrong I loved the keyblade graveyard battle scenes and how they fought and trios getting reunited. Vanitas choosing to go and Sora seeing his face was a good scene, but there were a lot of other missed opportunities...
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Instead vanilla Riku only dealt with the replicas, and Sora saw the organization Riku (which is Repliku from the past brought to he future).
But Sora got to see both Riku and Vanitas, thought it wasn't the Repliku who stayed with og Riku.
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Even Sora talking to Repliku would be something because he would be sad that he forgot him.
Sometimes I like Riku angst and the sad things happening. But what if it made him realized he FORGOT SOME STUFF and needs to remember—
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That Sora forgot about COM events and Necklace Theory stuff and must regain them??
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