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mythicaldemigoddess-of-deltarune · 10 months

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Transformers Theory: If TFA Got Season 4 & 5, It Could Reveal That Ultra Magnus Is Megazarak (And Theory About Hatchlings...)

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okay, there are some info on Season 4 of TFA, of what it could of been...

and well, there is the Fan-Made work of it on Youtube, which I think is awesome, and well there being more than one of them.

of course I’m still gonna view Ultra Magnus as being Megazarak, and thanks to Drift, who use to be a Decepticon but became a Autobot...

my theory about Ultra Magnus really being Megazarak, could prove to be correct. and he might not even be the real Ultra Prime.

Megatron had exiled Megazarak, the original leader of the Decepticons, first before Ultra Prime became Ultra Magnus.

also, it is still possible that besides Sari being Megatron’s daughter, and maybe it was caused by the Allspark...

Sari’s protoform is too small to be the same as the other protoforms, which makes the protoform that was Sari, a Hatchling.

Hatchlings, could be kept in a type of energon chrysalis, and once they are ready, they will hatch from their energon chrysalis.

Sari was born on Earth, in the lab that Megatron was being kept.

those who are in charge of a Hatchling Nursery, would probably have to form a energon chrysalis around the newborn protoforms that are born from mitosis.

it could also be possible that a Sire or Carer or Mentor, can have the choice to carry their new hatchling, which once again one of the versions of Scorponok had ended up making that go from Fanon to Canon...

a Carrier can be either a Mech or Femme or Nonbinary Cybertronian.

Cybertronians who are Junxies, could have one of them go through the mitosis, and the other could end up carrying their sparkmate’s protoform/hatchling that they had mitosis, and act as carrier until it is time for the hatchling to hatch from their energon chrysalis.

if TFA got a Season 5, then it would be in that season that it would be revealed that Ultra Magnus is not only a Imposter, and that he was Megazarak this whole time, but it would reveal that he is evil, and he had the real Ultra Prime locked up and placed in stasis, and when Ultra Prime is brought out of stasis, he will look around about the same age as Optimus Prime.

I mean come on, only a corrupted Mech who was kicked out of the Decepticons, would try get that Decepticon Registration Act and even the purpose of the Omega Project was to make a weapon of mass destruction on the Decepticons.....and who was harmed by Shockwave, has got to be secretly hiding something and secretly evil....even if not everyone has to agree about the theory.

but TFA Season 5, should reveal about the biggest plot twist that Ultra Magnus has been secretly evil this whole time, and he was kicked out of the Decepticons by a young mech Megatron.

it could be possible that Megatron, was no older than Bumblebee when he became the new leader of the Decepticons, and kicking out the former leader out, who was corrupted and would cross lines Megatron and the other Decepticons would not.

TF-G1 and TF-EarthSpark Optimus Prime, are both Himbo Primes.

oh yeah, and Transformers Prime version of Optimus Prime, he is also a Himbo Prime.....TFA Optimus might make some mistakes, but he isn’t a Himbo Prime like those three are......he is more of a precious cinnamon roll that needs to be protected, and if he has himbo moments, it be like the good kind of himbo.

oh, and TFA-Optimus, is like a helicopter dad, or like sire.

because of the time when he was listening in on Bulkhead, Bumblebee and Sari when they were trick or treating.....

we could also call him a helicopter carer, cybertronian version of a helicopter mom, but it might be correct to say that TFA-Optimus was being a helicopter sire. XD

it would be correct to call a Femme, a Carer, seeing as a Carrier can be either a Mech or Femme, and Scorponok had made it canon.

the names of the early plans of TFA Season 4, was this "Trial Of Megatron", "Mirror Mirror", "What a Tangled Web We Weave", "S.T.E.A.M.", "Land of the Mini-Cons", "Total Devastation", "Bumble Prime", "It Came From Cybertron", "How You Gonna Keep 'Em Down on the Energon Farm?", "Arachnus Prime", "Predacons Unite" and there is also the whole the "Trial of Megatron" from Part 1 to 3, and there being the other versions that still keep some of the same names as the original plans for TFA Season 4 "Turf War", "This Is Why I Hate Organics", "Mirror, Mirror", "Gremlins in Gears", "What a Tangled Web We Weave", "S.T.E.A.M.", "It Came From Planet Cybertron", "Triple Threat", "Allspark-alypse Now!", "Process of Elimination", "Megatron Must Be Destroyed!" which that last one, is suppose to be two parts....

though if anyone should be destroyed, it isn’t Megatron....

it’s Megzarak who goes by “Ultra Magnus”, he ain’t fooling some fans, we know who he is now, Frag The Autobot Elite Guard! XD

TFA Season 5, could reveal that the Autobots were always in the Gray, and how they treated the Decepticons was wrong, and they should of piece to together before, that Ultra Magnus was corrupted, and that he wasn’t really the original Ultra Prime, and he was Megazarak who was the former leader of the Decepticons this whole time.

it could be possible that Unicron could play a big part in TFA Season 5, like it turning out it being a bit like Transformers Prime.

like he is inside of the Earth, which of course was thanks to a Space Bridge.

Ratchet from TFP, might be wrong on how Unicron and Earth became one, and it might be possible it was caused by the Thirteen Primes using a Space Bridge, when they took Primus/Unicron’s good half and placing it into the planet of Cybertron, when those Thirteen Primes had betrayed Primus/Unicron, possibly thanks to listening to Quintessa.

it was possibly the Feminine energy of Earth in TFP, that kept Unicron asleep for so long until certain events that started to happen that will let him start to wake up. if it were possible, maybe it wouldn’t really be Unicron in the Earth, but a Femme Goddess, that needs to be 100% canon.

some info did say that Primus and Unicron had a long lost sibling, who was named Atlas, who needs to go from Semi-Canon to fully canon.

in a Steven Universe x Transformers Crossover, if both Gem, Human and Cybertronian were in a type of Ark ship and watch Atlas having to once again, slap the stupid out of Primus...

Amethyst could cheer by yelling “yeah, kick his butt, Dad!”

which those who were in the same room as her, both Autobot, Decepticon, Human and Gem could all turn to look at her and be like confused as to why she called Atlas, the younger sibling of Primus and Unicron, “Dad”....

but then they remember how some of the Gems made were “born” on Earth, and they would technically be the daughters of Atlas, so yeah....

the info about the Transformers Vs G.I. Joe comic, that Atlas appears in.

was that Primus was going to consume the Earth’s Sun, but was stop thanks to Atlas who had sucker-punched Primus.

in a Crossover between Transformers and Steven Universe, the Diamond Authority wouldn’t of known that Earth was Atlas, and that by making new Gems on the planet, they would also end up causing Atlas to technically the Father of all those new Gems.

if there can be Atlas, then there can also be a Femme Goddess who could team up with Atlas and fuse together and kick both Primus and Unicron’s butts.

it could be possible that both Gems and Humans, do actually have Sparks.

the Sparks of Humans, might look like how Cybertronian own Sparks but like what is seen in Beast Machines, they come in different colors.

like if I had a Spark, my Spark would be a Violet Color.

it is possible that in Transformers Prime, it was never Unicron in the Earth, but it was Atlas, and he was just infected by his elder brother’s dark energon, because some Cybertronian just had to bring it on to the planet and cause Unicron to influence his and Primus’s baby brother.

if TFA had a Season 5, it could be revealed that Atlas is the Earth.

if it turn out that Primus, Unicron and Atlas had a Mom who had mitosis those three, she would possibly be a few inch taller than those three and be able to transform into a planet as well, that would be a interesting thing to see, well I think it would be interesting.

it be interesting if it turns out, there is a thing that Unicron does fear...

and that would be the wrath of his, Primus and Atlas’s Mother.

her optics could be a green color, and she could give off this whole maternal energy about her, and it could turn out she has been in hibernation.

even if it might not really be possible for there to be a TFA Season 5 in the canon, but if there was, then it would end up having the Autobots and Decepticons working together with the humans, to fight Ultra Magnus who is really the former Decepticon leader, Megazarak.

Omega Supreme is like the Cluster from Steven Universe, just like how Tigerhawk from Beast Wars is like Garnet.

cause Tigerhawk is a relationship, and I had realized that he was the first romantic fusion before Garnet and Steven Universe series.

of course the bodies of Tigatron and Airazor were forced to fuse together by the Vok, but when the two found their way back to their now fused bodies, they had chose to fuse their sparks together and then enter their fused body that was now Tigerhawk.....so yeah, Tigerhawk is a romantic fusion and is a relationship.

Tigerhawk isn’t two people, and he isn’t one person, he is a experience.

when Autobots or Decepticons, end up combining, they are forming a type of fusion, and some can be platonic and just for fighting other Cybertronians.

but for some like Tigerhawk, it can be romantic reasons and those who choose that path, can choose to stay in their combined forms if they so wish.

and just like how Peridot is, but got use to Garnet and understanding that Garnet is like her OTP from Pinning Hearts...

there could be some Cybertronians, both Autobot, Decepticon, Predacon, Maximal or even Neutral...

that don’t feel comfortable about combining, and refuse to do it.

Peridot is Aroace, and for Gems, being Aroace can be slightly different from how it is for Humans, and Peridot isn’t really interested in fusing and she has expressed discomfort of it, but did want to try to fuse with Garnet but changed her mind because she didn’t feel comfortable about it.

and Garnet was happy and proud of Peridot, and she even had to explain to Peridot why she is fused all the time.

if there can be Nonbinary Cybertronians, then there can be Aroace Cybetronians.

the Autobots can’t truly be seen as 100% the good guys, and they are in the Gray in a few different timelines.

plus with how some Autobots are in TFP are, like willing to offline Vehicons...

and how Ratchet is only seeing like half the picture and not getting that Megatron wasn’t always a Monster....it isn’t surprising that he is a clueless mech, who doesn’t get that Megatron and the other Cybertronians have a right to be mad at the corrupted leaders, and Orion Pax/Optimus Prime was probably too clueless to even understand at the time on how corrupted things were, even if it was Alpha Trion who got him picked to become a Prime...

well, it isn’t just the Decepticons who are responsible for what happen to Cybertron....and some Eon-Boomer Autobots need their afterburners kicked.

Arcee from TFP, mentioning either a oil shower or energon shower, could point out she might of came from a the high ranked caste system.

so of course she might of been a spoiled brat before the whole war on Cybertron. even if not everyone who is high ranked and rich on Cybertron are spoiled brats, but for all we know, Arcee could of been one of them.

there can be like how some can be spoiled, not be as bad or toxic as some, but those who are, might try not to be because they still have good hearts or sparks.

even if the Autobot Eon-Boomers might act like they are innocent, but they aren’t really innocent and they didn’t truly help try to change things for the better and stop the corruption that was going on, they didn’t do jack slag until Megatron made himself known and pointed out how bad it was...

and it would be TFA-Megatron in possibly being brought back to life in a Season 5, that would have to point out Cybertron is corrupted thanks to the Autobots who are in charge of it, and them letting Megazarak be their “Ultra Magnus” had only made it much worse over the cycles.

a TFA Season 5, would be interesting and it could have some plot twists, like the whole Ultra Magnus turning out to be Megazarak, and he had replaced the real Ultra Prime, and has the real Ultra Prime in stasis, and Megazarak had reformatted himself by having his original body be infused with clone CNA of Ultra Prime, and becoming a Ultra Prime Clone.

if there could be the old plans for TFA Season 4, then there can be the idea about TFA Season 5.

and it could have other stuff in TFA Season 5, besides revealing the plot twist that Ultra Magnus is really Megazarak.

it could reveal that there is a Hatchling Nursery, that has other baby protoforms like how Sari looked when she first appeared in Professor Isaac Sumdac’s lab.

Megatron is still way overdue for that Hatchling Shower, Shockwave or Lugnut or maybe even Blitzwing, should throw Megatron that Hatchling Shower.

Hatchling Showers could work differently for Cybertronians, there could be two type of Hatchling Showers, like the first would be when the Carer or Sire ends up going through the mitosis, and the second Hatchling Shower that is held, when the Hatchling is ready to hatch from their oval energon chrysalis that is being carried by their Carer or Sire or Future Mentor.

the oval energon chrysalis, is placed in the chest of the Cybertronian, which might be a bit close to their spark.

the hatchling will stay in the oval energon chrysalis that will be in the chest of their Carrier, either it be a Carer or Sire or Mentor...

then there will be signs that the Hatchling is fully ready to come out of their oval chrysalis, like one of the signs would be them getting a bit bigger, the other sign be is that them trying to break out of their oval energon chrysalis, and the oval energon chrysalis starting to break and leak out some of the energon that was inside of it that was meant to feed and keep the hatchling alive.

when it starts to break a little, or just have some cracks and the leaking of energon starts to happen, that is when the Carer or Sire or Mentor to be, has to go to a Medic, to help with the Hatchling own Hatching out form their oval energon chrysalis that is housed in the Sire/Carer/Mentor’s chest.

what happens can be a type of Cybertronian version of going into labor, where they will possibly feel pain and electric feeling throughout their chest and even their spark, this process ends up happening when the oval energon chrysalis starts to crack and slowly break as it leaks some energon out and showing that the hatchling is ready to come out.

the hatchlings in the live-action movie series, are meant to stay in those energon filled “eggs” until they are ready to come out, and if they are broken out of them too soon, they will be in danger of dying...

if they had such a thing happen in TFA Season 5, it could only be shown in Adult Swim, just like how Samurai Jack’s new season could only be shown in Adult Swim cause it was mature.

it be funny if when a Autobot or Decepticon, is getting ready to have the Hatchling hatch from the oval energon chrysalis, it can end up causing some other Autobots or Decepticons, to start to panic or even faint.

picture Blitzwing yelling out “get the hot water!”

which might confuse some Autobots and Decepticons, who have no idea why the Sire-To-Be or Carer-To-Be or Mentor-To-Be, would need hot water when the hatchling is trying to break the oval energon chrysalis and hatch out of it.

it be funny if Starscream, being brought back once again by a allspark fragment, ends up screaming like a little girl (reference Bulkhead from Transformers Prime.) because he ends up learning that a Autobot they had taken captive, is going to have a hatchling and the process of the oval energon chrysalis starting to break and leak energon, has already started.

like picture Starscream, running around in a panic and screaming that he knows nothing about hatching hatchlings, and he wants his Carer. XD

it would probably have to be Blitzwing or Shockwave, well most likely Shockwave...who would have to grab Starscream and slap him and telling him to get a hold of himself, and Mech Up.

even if such a idea about how Hatchlings could be ready to hatch when they are inside a oval energon chrysalis that is in their Sire/Carer/Mentor’s Chest, is like a fan idea, but it would be interesting if it became used in the mature movie versions of Transformers.

I guess it could be normal that some might be grossed out by how the whole oval energon chrysalis works and how if it starts to crack and leak energon out, it means the hatchling is ready to hatch out of it.

this was originally going to talk about the thoughts of TFA Season 4 & Season 5, but then the whole Hatchling Theory and the Oval Energon Chrysalis started to pop into my head, and how it could work, and yeah...and just in case, this will have the mature audience only tags, as well as the going into labor tag....

which of course will have to do with how Cybertronian labor works, and how it will be painful on the Cybertronian’s chest, spark and send painful electric throughout not just their chest, but perhaps throughout their whole body.

in theory, this could be viewed as one of the different ways a Hatchling can be born, even if they start out being mitosis from their parent, but have to be placed into a oval energon chrysalis that would be placed into one of their Sire/Carer/Mentor’s Chest, and they have to stay in that energon egg until they are ready to come out, and if it breaks too soon, it could place the hatchling in danger of going offline and their spark being extinguished.

TFA-Megatron probably had another reason to take over the Decepticons, and kick out the corrupted leader that is Megazarak/Ultra Magnus out and send him into exile....

and it might have to do with Hatchlings, protecting the future of Cybertron, and the other reason why TFA-Megatron needed the Allspark was to help the Hatchling Protoforms that were in a type of Hatchling Nursery.

and of course the Autobots being under the command of the corrupted leader Megazarak/Ultra Magnus, ended up sending the Allspark Mother off Cybertron...

it is possible that if Isaac hadn’t found Sari’s protoform/hatchling self in that lab on time, and without being place into a oval energon chrysalis, Sari’s hatchling self would of been offline and would of possibly turned into a liquid metal puddle, which in theory could happen to hatchlings if they aren’t placed into a oval energon chrysalis after they are mitosis from their Cybertronian Sire or Carer or Mentor.

so in theory, Isaac had saved his own daughter’s life and spark.

maybe in TFA Season 5, Megatron (who is brought back to life) and Optimus, would have to tag-team and fight Megazarak and even combine into a fusion of themselves that could be called “Megamus” this could help them become stronger and faster when fighting Megazarak.

Ultra Magnus/Megazarak fighting Megamus, could be interesting...

not everyone has to agree about theory that TFA-Ultra Magnus isn’t who he appears to be, and him having replace the real Ultra Prime before the real Ultra Prime could become a Magnus, and the Imposter that is known as “Ultra Magnus” is really Megazarak....

cause the whole forming the Omega Project and even the whole Decepticon Registration Act (which if it is like the other one from another Transformers Timeline, it would of likely brainwashed the Decepticons into becoming docile.), ya can’t not end up questioning if Ultra Magnus is secretly evil and him also being secretly Megazarak who was the former Decepticon leader who was exiled by Megatron, and probably for a very good reason.

we could come up with different Transformers theories, even from TFA, and only some of them might turn out to be correct and canon, while some will just stay in the fanon zone.

the first episode of TFA Season 5, it could reveal that not only Ultra Magnus is secretly evil and is Megazarak, but also that Unicron has secret agents on both the Autobot and Decepticon sides...that could be sleeper agents.

and it will take both the Autobots and Decepticons, to fight the agents that work for Unicron, and even right the wrongs that was caused by Ultra Magnus/Megazarak, and if Megatron and Optimus did fuse into Megamus, maybe Sari could use her allspark powers to help them synchronize perfectly with both their minds and sparks, so they can become Megamus and fight Megazarak.

Megamus fusion must become canon, EarthSpark-Optimus & Megatron, become Megamus so the ship can be canon. XD

if TFA Season 5 had one of their episodes being called “Megamus Prime” then it would have to do with Optimus and Megatron having fused and combined into Megamus Prime.

which in theory, Megamus Prime would be both deadly and charming.

Megamus Prime needed to be formed, to fight Megazarak and put a stop to him for good, and not just exile him, as that was perhaps one of Megatron’s mistakes as one of his first act of leader, and he should of just locked Megazarak away where he could do no harm to any Cybertronian.

anyway, hope some like the fan idea about a TFA Season 5, and how in the Season 5, it would have Optimus and Megatron combine and fuse into Megamus Prime.

Megamus Prime should become a real thing, and become canon. XD

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I was thinking about the Galvadad AU - again! - and suddenly, I was hit with ‘oh god, what would Megazarak think of Galv and Megs’s possible sparklings/heirs?’

Which includes: Does he see his second-creations/grandkids as actual sparklings, or just more heirs to his line? Does he have particular feelings about their frames/breed (seeker, speedster, etc.)? Would his feelings about them change depending who’s they are? Would ‘Zarak have a favorite child, and further, possibly a favorite grandchild?

(On that last one, dear god, I can only imagine how much scarring it could have put into the twins, and their heirs, if that’s the case. Possibly an explanation of why Megs is more downbeat, less positive, while Galv is more bubbly, and cheerful; ‘Zarak + their carrier favored Galv, maybe? Who knows.)

Also; should Zarak have passed, funeral? Would one not go? Or only go as some form of support for the other? On childhood, would one have to protect/help the other get by?

I can imagine so much from the fact that Zarak wasn’t a good sire, and makes me wonder about their carrier, too…

Just- lots of questions and wonders!! >A<

Oh boy! Questions about Megazarak! Bastard dad himself. It’s fun to see someone’s interested in him. So let’s start going through these questions bit-by-bit. Starting with:

What would Megazarak think of Galv and Megs’s possible sparklings/heirs?’ Which includes: Does he see his second-creations/grandkids as actual sparklings, or just more heirs to his line?

So Megazarak isn’t actually around to see his grandkids but I’ll answer the question as if he were still around. So in this au adoption is a very common thing amongst Decepticons. So having a kid/heir that isn’t directly from your spark isn’t a thing that would cause someone to kick up a fuss. But Megazarak decided to have Galvatron and Megatron because he’s the sort to think only creations from his spark would be good enough to continue his legacy.

However, that doesn’t mean Megazarak wouldn’t have had things to say about Galvs and Megs choices of heirs.

He probably wouldn’t have liked either of the kids tbh. Starscream is a disrespectful brat, and the other one is a meek little grounder. Neither of them he’d feel would be fitting to carry on the legacy of the Empire he’s shaped.

Does he have particular feelings about their frames/breed (seeker, speedster, etc.)? Would his feelings about them change depending who’s they are?

He mostly prefers warframes, since he thinks they’re the best for leading an army. While there have been grounders and speedsters who have been generals none of them have ever managed to get to the position of Decepticon Emperor before, so once again he wouldn't think much of Roddy. Galvatron should be choosing an heir that will be perfect for a future Emperor, dammit!

Would ‘Zarak have a [...] favorite grandchild?

Despite all the complaining Zarak would do about the grandkids, he'd still prefer Starscream. That one he can at least imagine as an Emperor. But it’s honestly a low bar for favourite cos he’d be screaming and spitting about Roddy.

Would ‘Zarak have a favorite child? (On that [..] dear god, I can only imagine how much scarring it could have put into the twins, and their heirs, if that’s the case. Possibly an explanation of why Megs is more downbeat, less positive, while Galv is more bubbly, and cheerful; ‘Zarak + their carrier favored Galv, maybe? Who knows.)

(So just a note/CW: we’re gonna be talking about Galvatron’s mental health history here and it’s not gonna be all good)

You actually hit the nail on the head there. Those were some of the ideas I was planning with the two of them. So Galvs used to be the favoured kid. He was always the strongest out of the two twins and Megazarak definitely envisioned him becoming future leader of the Decepticons. Megatron meanwhile got somewhat ignored while Galvs was considered the golden child.

This led to Megs slowly building resentment towards Galvatron as he got praised for everything while Megatron struggled to get any recognition from his father.

However, this also affected Galvs negatively cos there was an ever mounting pressure to live up to all the expectations that were being placed on him. This, along with a few undiagnosed issues led to Galvatron having a breakdown not too long after being appointed Emperor*. He stepped down and focused on recovery, and not long after Megatron was appointed as his replacement.

Galvatron has spent a lot of time trying to get better and since then has just had a generally more hands-off approach to leading the Decepticons. He’s not too fussed about expanding their empire anymore. He’s more focused on himself, which is where we find him now in the au. Megatron, however, is still dealing with a lot of the resentment from his upbringing, which Galvs is still fairly oblivious to.

Also; should Zarak have passed, funeral? Would one not go? Or only go as some form of support for the other? On childhood, would one have to protect/help the other get by?

So Megazarak has already passed away when this au starts. He passed before Megatron got to take the throne so, you know, he's having a fun time over that (sarcasm). Megatron preceded over the funeral and got to officially declare himself Decepticon Emperor at the end of it. Galvatron was still in the recovery phase and did not attend.

I can imagine so much from the fact that Zarak wasn’t a good sire, and makes me wonder about their carrier, too…

I’d give you more details about their carrier but I honestly have no idea who that would be lol. Been trying to figure out who exactly it should be but other than a couple of random Cons (like Black Shadow, or Gigatron or something like that). I have various headcanons for Zarak but no idea who to pair him with.

* So a lot of the stuff about Galvs mental health hasn't been touched on yet in this au. If I do a deep dive or fic about these events then I'd want to try and do them sensitively. But my plan is Galvatron is neurodivergent and so is Roddy. And tbh I have another au like this that's very similar but does have a different focus and I have put more of the exploration of Galvs mental health and recovery in that au rather than this one. These are more ideas that I have had as building blocks for the story, but I'm not going to put those in until I know I can do the story well and with sensitivity.

(But thanks for the ask! It was fun to answer these. Sorry it got so long, but there were a lot of questions to answer.)

There’s now a part 2 discussing more deets on this au so enjoy

#Formatting some of the questions like in an english lit essay cos apparently the impulses have not stopped me after all these years #Transformers #Galvatron #Megatron #Megazarak #Galvadad #Hot Rod #Starscream #Decepticons

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