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#shrek discourse
slaket-and-sprash · 1 year
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Actually Shrek forever after is on par with Shrek 2 and Puss In Boots the last wish as the best film in the Shrek franchise and one of the best DreamWorks films period.
I will say that it is the least funniest Shrek movie. Not because of the fact that jokes don't land just that it has so few jokes throughout, the jokes they do tell do in fact land. Shrek the third, on the other hand tries to be funny but none of the jokes really land, the story sucks and it dosent do Shrek's charecter arc justice. Shrek the third is easily the weakest Shrek movie and whenever I rewatch the films I skip Shrek the third to Shrek forever after.
And I feel the reason why people dislike Shrek forever after is because people view the Shrek series as straight up comedies that are meant to take the piss out of Disney. Instead of movies that take typical Disney/fairytale tropes and makes something new with them. The Shrek series has always had a hefty focus on drama and with Shrek's charecter arc, with him feeling as though he does not deserve love or happiness bc he is an ogre. The Shrek series has always been an animated fantasy/drama like Kung Fu Panda and How to train your Dragon, as opposed to a straight up comedy like Madagascar.
Alot of people claim that Shrek forever after became the very thing it was making fun of, an animated serious fantasy drama but Shrek was always that, just that it subverted average fairytale and animated tropes of the time. It came out after the 90s, the era of the Disney renaissance. Where every animated movie needed to have the same exact tropes and Shrek subverted every single one of those to make a new golden standard for animated films.
Shrek forever after still subverts typical fairytale tropes, it continues Shrek's charecter arc with him finally realizing that yes he does deserve happiness no matter what. Also the animation still looks stunning and I love how Fiona gets to be a badass. Shrek forever after isn't a funny movie, but that's not what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to cap off Shrek's story in a satisfying way.
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kingoftheu · 1 year
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I like how in discussions of "Best Dreamworks Movies" no one ever really talks about Prince of Egypt because it is so self evidently the best one there is nothing to talk about.
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moth-manss · 1 year
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Why are you making Jack horner a tumbler sexyman when Shrek is RIGHT THERE
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iulia-caesaris · 4 months
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Terminally online trans catgirls will be like uwu that character is trans now transphobes seethe teehee and then turn around and be like actually that character can't be trans because a transphobe made it
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gourde · 1 year
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Sometimes I read something with so many words and contractions and acronyms that I don't understand and am blessed with a sense of serenity. There's too many words <3 We should start killing some to reduce the amount.
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beemovieerotica · 4 months
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im really glad shrek came out 22 years ago because if it were out today then you know there would be lord farquaad thirst blogs and the discourse would be psychically devastating
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todayontumblr · 1 year
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Monday March 20.
Some mildly interesting Shrek 2 trivia.
Because sometimes you just need a few facts to set you on your merry way, and "a few facts" don't come much more mildly fascinating than this. A few brain-teasers, if you will. Some moderately intriguing factoids to raise your brow a little, and to which your face will express really? Now that is pretty interesting, before promptly forgetting them. They are a whole lot of fun, too, and in the Fallout-style wastelands that we call contemporary culture and discourse, the source of these facts represents not just a beacon of hope, a source of comfort, but one of the few precious things that we can collectively agree on. We are talking, of course, of #shrek. Shrek 2 (2004), to be precise.
So why not add a little orge-tinged spice to your Monday with these delightful nuggets of fact nourishment straight from the depths of the swamp. But this is just a mere whetting of the collective appetite, to prepare you all for the treasures hidden within the dashboard's ever-expanding #shrek fandom community.  
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txttletale · 4 months
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Hey this is only tangential to the AI art thing, but I'm curious how you feel about the distinction between plagiarism and information property infringement?
I take issue with plagiarism (which isn't what AI art is doing anyway) but I don't think copyright law is the place to solve it. IP as a concept and copyright as a practice I feel only have meaning within the bounds of capitalism and are mostly vehicles for capitalists to extract more value from creative labor, but I still think plagiarism would be wrong even if there was no publication-as-means-to-survival element.
Like, passing off someone else's work as your own at the very least feels different from owning the right to profit from that work. But simultaneously it does seem like even that is veering toward an 'economics of clout' if that makes any sense. Like, I would still be upset (albeit, much less so than if I relied on that work to eat) if I made something cool and someone else got the credit, but I think I lack the vocab to articulate why or whether a meaningful difference actually exists.
For clarity, my background is in research rather than art so maybe that affects my thinking?
If you don't feel like writing a full response, name-dropping a book or an article for me to get started would be greatly appreciated too.
yeah i mean i think the thing about plagiarism that differentiates it from copyright infringement is that imo the crucial part of plagiarism is taking the name off the thing. like, plagiarism fundamentally is not a crime of taking or distributing something, it's about refusing to name the author, about purposefully lying about the origins of a piece. & i think it is bad while copyright infringement is not because it inherently muddies the water of truth -- like, to take the recent high-profile somerton case, i think one of the really bad things about his plagiarism was that he was mixing plagiarised research and journalism with ad-libbed nonsense like "the SS was teeming with homosexuals", and without attribution people were led to assume that the well-researched accounts of queer history were from the same source as the insane claims, which lent somerton's editorializing totally uneared credibility.
but yknow i think that in many cases copyright law legalizes plagiarism. like the only difference between ghostwriting and plagiarism is that one is legal -- i often think about how atari didn't credit game developers on their early games, or how game studios still find bullshit reasons to not credit workers now. hell, i screenshot someone in the notes of an AI art discourse post sayting shrek was "the hard work of Dreamworks Studios", which to me is just as much of a misattribution of credit as saying james somerton wrote his videos.
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enzenwriting · 2 years
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adore you! - (completed)
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♡ Summary: Debuting as BE:LIFT Lab’s next solo artist, you reunite with your best friend Jungwon in Enhypen! With the groups’ quick fondness towards you, a certain member is sure he adores you extra with brotherly and senior care! But what if Jay finds that this doting is unlike his feeling towards his younger members because he definitely does not want to kiss Yang Jungwon like he does to you?!
Pairing: Enhypen Jay (Park Jongseong) x idol fem!reader (feat. enhypen+ other idols)
Tags: stranger to lovers, friends to lover, kinda slowburn, jealousy, idols!, lots of fluff letchugoooo!!!
Warning: probably alot of cursing, dry humour, alot of typo and no proof read writing.
Status: COMPLETED
upload schedule : —-
Author's note/AN; hello it’s me again:) I’m just trying to move on from attention please😭 so here’s another enhypen smau😭 also NOT because jay is climbing up my bias list in manifesto era
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00 - Jay’s schedule / YN’s strawberry
01 - Fan acc
02 - debutnation (real)
03 - moot
04 - could be her
05 -tiktok domination
06 - hybe’s baby
07 - 𝔦 𝔴𝔦𝔩𝔩 𝔭𝔯𝔬𝔱𝔢𝔠𝔱 𝔶𝔬𝔲
08 - hybe’s gym ghost (written! 2.8k words)
09 - ice cream thieves
10 - y/nstan first win
11 - sherlock gnomes
11.5 - riki stop growing
12 - I did this to myself
13 - vlive special!
14 - titanic stans
15 - bangbang@gmail dot com
16 - tea connoisseur
17 - kdrama moment (written! 0.9k words)
18 - büzzfeed cake (written! 1.6k words)
19 - he’s a 1 but
19.5 - Pokémon trainer Hee
20 - what goes on in hybe building
21 - after week club! special guest
21.5 - ice cream line
21.6 - there’s more?
22 - #YN #SHREK
23 - foot long subway
23.5 - two for a dollar
23.6 - Yang Jungwon knows something (written! 0.5k words)
24 - manifesto your man
25 - shade of yellow
26 - special MC!
27 - bisco I choose you!
28 - no comment
29 - idiot sandwich
30 - bachelorette here we come
31 - smooch your homie
32 - that one fan account (derogatory)
32.5 - down with the park!
33 - beetrayal and souper sad
34 - my mission here is done
35 - run cat boy run! pt1 (written! 3k words)
- run cat boy run! pt2 (written! 0.9k words)
35.5 - twitter discourse
36 - next phase
37 - dis-pocketchz vlive
38 - manifesting era is not over (written! 1.3k words)
39 - that’s the real dispatch
39.5 - big brain
40 - epilogue! Adore you!
40.5 - what’s after like? (6month after!)
40.6 - more than like
Behind the scene:
1 loose screw / Sunflower for 2 / 3 things?!
req: unseen shots
Disclaimer: Please remember that this is a work of fiction! Any idols (and activity) written and mentioned in this story/AU is not to be associated with the real idols. All images used in this AU are not mine! All images are accessed through the internet (google, pinterest, instagram, twitter and tumblr!)
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noodelak · 1 year
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Having thoughts about what kind of discourse teenagers would come up with about Shrek if the original two films had come out in this day…
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Round 4 - Catholic Character Tournament
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firestar art by @kudossi
Propaganda below ⬇️
Puss in Boots Propaganda
they don’t say it out loud but he is from spain like real life spain and they heavily imply via directly referencing the virgin of Guadelupe that it’s just normal real life catholicism. and he doesn’t steal from churches. so it’s, like, an 80% chance that he’s catholic
Firestar
NOTE: I have to note that Firestar is kitty Anglican NOT kitty Catholic
Kitty jesus, he believes in starclan which is the kitty version of heaven/god and yea. All the warrior cats characters except those outside the clans or those that are atheist believe in the kitty heaven and would irl be bri-ish and christian as hell so. The authors are all older british christian women and so the way starclan is written is like undoubtedly that.
The main religion in the series is extremely catholic coded. Most clan cats believe in Starclan and the Dark Forest(or heaven and hell). There is a set of rule they must uphold and follow, where following them leads to heaven and breaking them leads to hell. Their religious leaders are sworn to celibacy, and the punishments that "code breakers"(or cats who break the rules) face are extremely similar to situations people with religious trauma have gone through.
OP notes: apparently converted to avoid getting his balls cut?? Idk. The discord yet wild for firestar so I had to include him because it's hilarious hehehe
OP new notes: I have learned so much about warrior cats. Do yourself a favor and go down this tag and see the Firestar discourse.
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pattonvirglsanders · 9 months
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Criminal Minds as things my friends have said pt. 4
Hotch: I’ll be the government
Prentiss: Are YOU being influenced by the crime man?
Garcia: Never cremate your horses close to your house
Reid: Doctors would love to dissect my fingers
Prentiss: Stick it to the MAN man.
JJ: You’re not a MAN man!
Prentiss: I think I pick death
Garcia: But how could I delete Shrek Jesus?
Reid: Jesi: the plural of Jesus
Reid after infodumping: That’s the vampire discourse for today
Garcia: I just have a fifth sense for those things
Prentiss (tired and/or drunk): Gnubis is so inder (meaning: inubis is so gender)
Prentiss: Jesus is a trans lizard
Prentiss: There’s the library we’re not allowed to go in, tHOSE BIGOTS-
Hotch: Please go back to your drugs
JJ: Ah! it’s melting and covered in hair! I’ll throw it out
Prentiss: I’M melting and covered in hair! Are you gonna throw ME out?
Garcia: I don’t take the hand of a winner!!
Garcia: I will grant you blessings in Cheerios and whatnot
Prentiss: If someone slaps you, kill them
Prentiss: Nobody’s that enthusiastic about New Jersey
Prentiss: Everyone’s trying to diagnose me with gay! (She is a lesbian. I know she canonically had a boyfriend. I will die on this hill)
Prentiss: I WAS BLACKOUT DRUNK THIS ENTIRE YEAR
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iulia-caesaris · 4 months
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Help, evil people are trying to lie on the internet about media as if it's good when it's actually morally bad and dangerous. I must do something about this.
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