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beautifully-imperfections · 2 years

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Why is Reiner the only person from the warriors who gets treated so badly by everyone. Annie’s and Pieck’s crimes get completely overlooked and he gets beaten up again. Also why do they keep focusing on Marco but not Bertoldt or Ymir?

#I read chapter 134 to 139 last night and I’m so confused #the ending was not good #manga spoilers #snk #snk 139 #reiner Braun #warriors #also Reiner sniffing Hisu’s letter I….#that’s not my son #my ramblings

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rivaille-13 · 3 years

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RIVAMIKA Development

Chapter 132: (Small details)

"Everyone start inspecting your equipment."

From R-L panel: Could be that Mikasa assisted Levi with the inspection of equipments?

Chapter 133:

"Just... Lend me your strength."

Mikasa's face expression. Helping each other out.

Chapter 133: (Paths - Silent interaction)

Needless to explain the way Levi looks at her and agree with her.

Chapter 134 & Chapter 135

Protection and Guidance.

Chapter 135:

Levi: "... Even if I was in top shape... I still wouldn't choose to charge into that. So stay calm. Mikasa. Don't rush. Wait for me to get their attention. I'll act as bait."

Mikasa: "Captain!!"

Trust and concern.

Desperation.

Chapter 136:

• Realizations.

I did include the others' faces. I think it's a great way to let the readers know that Connie and Jean realized that both Levi and Mikasa felt the same way when accepting that it's time to let their lieges go.

Chapter 137:

Acceptance and care.

Parallels showing that only the two of them are looking in the same direction.

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There is so many more I like to mention, so many RivaMika panels and interaction that happened since Chapter 132 up to date... But shitty tumblr only allowed me ten pictures for a post. So I chose the most important ones (Cause hell, every RM panel for me is fucking important) and yeah. Here it is. If RivaMika still not canon, I don't know anymore ahah.

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kamiyazaki · 3 years

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Levi cannot wait to kill that fucking monkey and honestly I relate to him so much, go shove a thunder spear up his ass bb

#shingeki no kyojin #snk #AoT #attack on titan #levi ackerman #snk chapter 134 #hajime isayama #aot chapter 134 #rivaille

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h0estar · 3 years

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ABOUT TIME YALL FUCKIN REALIZED IT.

but it's way too fucking late ofc 😙

it really took these mfs mass gen0cide to fucking realize their mistakes lol

this panel, man. so fucking sad, and heartbreaking but at the same time so beautiful? like the way they desperately continued to save the baby even tho death was inevitable. goddammit. the whole time i was reading this chapter, my mind was chanting "Eren.... i love you bUT PLEASE STOP NOW SWEETIE FOR FUCK'S SAKE"

anyway

ARMIN WAS SO BADASS HERE. Armin Protection Squad where u @

shit is about to go dOWN FOR REAAAAAL

way to build up the hype for next chapter dkskskd. i cant wait for their conversation.

also,

-Levi Ackerman, 2020

(shit had me laughing. head empty, no thoughts, just monke)

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momtaku · 3 years

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A few quick 134 thoughts or else I will actually burst ...

I’ve been consumed with real life so talking about Attack on Titan and responding to online friends has taken a backseat, but I am eager to talk about the chapter as soon as I have a moment. Since that keeps not happening, I thought I’d drop just a few quick thoughts now.

I’ve long hoped for a “cruel yet beautiful” ending but with this chapter I’ve giving up hope on anything other than cruel. This chapter was game over. Nothing can repair the damage that’s been done. The world has been rumbled and millions of innocents have been mercilessly slaughtered. No matter who, no matter where. The devout offering prayer at the temple, the urban and affluent in the city, the rural families running with no escape all met the same fate.

Meanwhile those who actually bear some guilt in this are being shown to have a change of heart. While the natural reaction would be anger, they are instead expressing remorse and vowing to do better. None of that matters either. If innocents and those having a change of heart are instantly slaughtered, what's the actual point?

It makes me wonder about the overall messaging here. Everyone including the 104th, the Alliance, Kiyomi, the General, and the crowd gathered at Fort Slava are willing to accept blame for the rumbling, yet there's been very little blame assigned to the person doing the rumbling and surprisingly little anger towards him. I don't know if that's clumsy messaging on Isayama's part, or if we are supposed to at least partially recuse Eren from this horror. That bothers me. I dropped that thought in a discord and my friend Kingsgrave shared his thoughts. I’ll end with those because it provides a lot to think about.

I think the narrative supports Eren a little too much. His ideas and rationalizations are treated as inevitable and not really pushed back on by the main cast, the main cast just laments about how terrible the world is.

We also never really had anyone in the narrative actually support alternatives, often they were proposed by some 3rd party and then they went nowhere. Isayama seemed to make it a point that those who supported alternatives were seen as fickle, indecisive, and weak compared to people like Floch and Eren.

It also doesn't help that the only major alternative proposed, the 50 year plan, was never an actual plan because it was proposed by a guy who was later revealed to want the extinction of Eldians. Making the plan a farse.

I think the biggest thing that confused/upset me was in 123 at that conference that Eren walked out of. That character seemed to exist to yet again remind us and Eren that there is no such thing as peace.

So maybe its a cautionary tale but honestly it feels more like Isayama is constantly justifying Eren. The text of the manga supports Eren's side far more than it does the other side, which makes arguing about it when you aren't on Eren's side incredibly difficult. Which might be the point but I hesitate to give Isayama credit for that.

Again those are not my words but I share the concern. Thank you @kingsgrave for permission to share them. Also thank you (and sorry) to everyone in my inbox. I hope be discussing the series soon.

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arlingtonpark · 3 years

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SNK 134 Review

Thank you. Thank you so much. This means so much to me.

(Ofc this chapter is called “In the Depths of Despair.”)

Sigh.

So, I guess I have to have an opinion on this chapter now.

For a while there, it looked like SNK had made the right choice.

Eren was the asshole. He was insubordinate, ungrateful, uncooperative, and above all else, a fucking sociopath. Cool, got it. One and done.

But then his friends started talking about how it was really their fault he’s doing this.

Ok, that’s fine. They’re desperate to stop him, so they’re just saying whatever they think will ingratiate themselves with Eren and help talk him down. Dynamics like that are very common in abusive relationships.

Now we arrive at this chapter, where even random people are saying Eren is a victim *as he is murdering them!*

It is patently absurd that Eren is having a warranted or natural or reasonable reaction to what he’s been through.

If Eren were a better person, he would have known that mass murder against the Eldians was wrong because mass murder is wrong. Unfortunately, Eren is a fundamentally amoral person. The only moral compass he has to guide him is a childish belief in “you hit me, so I get to hit you.”

He’s said as much on multiple occasions. He has said, “If someone tries to take my freedom away, I will take their freedom away.”

Instead of being the better man and ending the killing, his solution was to kill more people than them, faster and on a larger scale.

I think the clearest picture of Eren’s worldview was given when he spoke to Historia. He said the only way to end the cycle of violence was to destroy the whole world.

That is Eren’s deeply felt belief: there can be no peace or coexistence; the only way to win is to be the last man standing.

This mindset is so natural to him that he will even kill his friends for opposing him.

He told them that they were free to oppose him, and he was free to fight back. That’s how he justifies killing them to himself. They have the choice to oppose him, so if he fights back and kills them, it’s their fault they died, not his, because they could have made the choice to flee and live, but decided to stand and die.

In reality, the alliance is fulfilling a moral duty to protect life, while Eren is an asshole who has killed billions.

The series wasn’t kind to Eren about that. He was depicted as a cheering child as he murdered everyone. The Rumbling was not white washed either. The take away was obviously that Eren’s decision was not the product of a sound mind.

And yet.

Now I have to wonder if the series is seriously trying to say the Rumbling embodies some form of justice.

There are multiple layers to this issue, so let’s start at the surface level.

So in what is obviously a ham-fisted attempt by Isayama to lecture the audience about morality, a Random Commander Guy filibusters about the ills cast by the Marleyans on the Eldians and how this has rebounded back at them.

It is generally considered good writing for characters to get their just desserts. If someone sells drugs to kids, you expect something bad to happen to them. If someone helps a kid cross the street, you expect something good to happen to them.

What’s different between a generic case of just desserts in a story and this chapter in SNK is that the dessert is typically delivered through some nebulous, karmic force, rather than a vengeful twerp with God-like powers.

When the drug dealer’s car blows up, it’s karmic fate, not revenge.

The car doesn’t blow up because one of the kids devoted his life to exacting revenge, it’s because the car just blows up for no reason, or because something completely unrelated to the dealer causes a bomb to be planted in the car, or the dealer brought it on themselves by getting caught up with terrorists.

People may or may not deserve to suffer, but it’s fine to show people suffering if you’re just trying to make a point about how people should act.

Eren’s a different case. For several reasons.

To help untangle why, let’s think about the death penalty.

The death penalty is an example of retributive justice. Put simply, it’s the idea that retribution can be morally just.

The Rumbling is immoral precisely because it is something a supporter of retributive justice would emphatically NOT support.

Most supporters of the death penalty would justify it as an act by a legitimate societal authority. Eren is not that.

Eren is not an authority figure. He does not speak for the Eldian people and has no right to exact this genocide on their behalf. No one made him King of the Eldians. It’s not his place to decide what’s in the Eldian’s best interest.

Also, killing people because “it’s what the scumbag deserves” is usually justified because it’s a sentence for a crime handed down in a legal process.

Rights can be taken away, but not arbitrarily. Transparency is an important part of this. Acts that are a crime are public knowledge, as well as the prescribed punishments. The criminal law is also supposed to apply to everyone equally, not selectively. To say nothing of the law itself being duly enacted by a legitimate governmental authority.

The same principles apply to the process by which a right is taken away. The process must be laid out in a law that was duly enacted by a legitimate government authority, applies to everyone, and is publicly known.

Eren’s process, of *fucking* course, is nothing like this. Eren has no legitimate authority. He’s a Guy With an Opinion who bumbled into attaining absolute power, and now he’s acting on that Opinion.

He not the government punishing a convict. He’s a guy with a gun shooting people he doesn’t like. The Rumbling is not just retribution, it’s just murder.

Commander Guy says that if they knew this would happen, they would have acted differently.

That’s a good point.

Why the fuck do they deserve to die, then?

To some extent, everyone’s worse impulses are kept in check by the knowledge that there will be consequences if they act rashly.

But it’s not just that.

Laws are public knowledge for a reason: it’s fair. If you know your act is a crime and that performing said act will result in a certain punishment, then by committing the act anyway you have tacitly accepted whatever punishment will be meted out.

The moral onus is placed on you.

This is why knowledge that you are committing a crime is necessary to be convicted of a crime.

In principle, the case with the Marleyans is the same. Is it fair to punish someone for an act they did not know would carry that punishment? No.

They may know the act was immoral, but that is not the same thing as knowing it will lead directly to their death.

And needless to say, but you only deserve to be punished for an act if you deserve to be punished for that act. The Marleyans do not deserve to be punished for that act.

There are multiple ways a wrong can be righted. There are punitive ways, in which the perpetrator is harmed outright. There are also restorative ways, in which the victim is compensated for the harm done to them, usually at the expense of the perpetrator.

I have already explained why Eren lacks the authority to pass judgement on the world, and that the process by which he made his decision was completely illegitimate, but it needs to be said that this punishment is totally improper in itself.

Wiping out humanity is purely punitive. To use the obvious analogy, I don’t think any sane person would argue white people deserve to be punished for racism. Supporters of racial justice usually talk about restorative, rather than punitive, forms of justice, like reparations.

The Rumbling does not make the Eldians whole again. It does not restore their trampled dignity. It is purely an act of vengeance.

Casting it as some kind of deserving retribution is crazy.

Oh, and, you know, suffering is bad, so retributive justice is wrong even disregarding everything I just said.

You could theoretically believe life is a miracle, but that people forfeit that right if they act wrongly…it’s not something many people would support.

If Dino!Eren had been depicted as a random force of nature that visited ruination upon humanity, we could have potentially gotten a good story about how hatred leads to no good outcomes. Like how Godzilla is a metaphor for the ills of nuclear weapons.

Instead we get a nihilistic tale about two sides punching each other until one keels over dead. And somehow the one that keels over deserved it.

What makes it nihilistic is that you could easily reverse it. What if right before Eren destroys Fort Salta, aliens invade the Earth and help the Marleyans.

Now the Eldians are on the verge of annihilation and *Eldian* Commander Guy gets his turn to say “Woe is us who surrendered to hate. We deserve this.”

There is no right side or wrong side. No deserving side or innocent side. The Eldians were cheering for genocide the same as the Marleyans. The difference is the Eldians had a God on their side.

The morality of this series is just all over the place.

The Alliance and Eren are equally sinful, but now Eren is an agent of karmic destiny and his victims “deserve it.”

There isn’t much to talk about this chapter besides that.

Armin still hopes to take Eren alive, but good luck with that.

Eren can manifest other titans from his body, which is cool I guess, though it’s pretty clear this power only exists to give the Alliance things to fight.

There were a lot of allusions to parenthood this chapter. The baby and the cliff. Reiner’s mom realizing how shitty she’s been. Historia’s pregnancy. The Commander Guy saying it’s the fault of “us adults.” The numerous shots emphasizing the kids at Fort Salta.

Child abuse is a common theme of SNK. And not just parental abuse, but societal abuse, too. Children are the victims of individual foibles and broader social ills, like racism and police brutality.

The cycle of violence at the heart of the series’ conflict is bad for everyone, but the story emphasizes that it is bad for children in particular. It harms them, and leads to a world that is worse off for them.

If there’s one takeaway from SNK, it’s that we should think of the children. Adults shouldn’t just take care of their kids, they should fix broader social issues, if not for themselves then for the children’s sake.

It’s a fucking insult.

Historia’s pregnancy is all but confirmed here. There’s no way it’s fake. There may have been motive to fake being pregnant, but there is no fucking way she’d have a reason to fake *birth*.

I always leaned towards the pregnancy being real, so that didn’t get to me. What gets me is that Historia is just…there. On Paradis. On the sidelines.

Not only was Historia, who is the only likable female character in this show now, impregnated, she’s also been MIA most the last two story arcs.

I had thought Isayama was saving her for the finale. Surely, Isayama understands that if you sideline a major character for no reason, they have to come into play at some point, I thought. Surely.

Characters are tools; they exist to be used. So use them.

But no, it seems Historia is legit not going to be a thing in this final battle. My dreams of the domineering boss saving the day are dashed.

But what really messes with me is how shafted Historia has been since basically the end of the Uprising Arc.

Historia’s only contribution to the plot after Uprising, but before the pregnancy was making the disastrous decision to make the truth of the world public, which paved the way for Paradis society to become radicalized and back Eren’s coup.

She has done nothing other than that.

Obviously her pregnancy will have thematic importance, but at this point the best Historia stans can hope for is that she’s the main character in the epilogue.

I’ve always assumed the pregnancy was the product of a loving relationship. For all his incompetence with Historia, I was willing to assume Isayama would not force her to carry a forcibly impregnated child to term.

And you know that even if the child is the product of rape, Historia will still have to say she loves and accepts them as her child and will raise them lovingly, with no regard or acknowledgement of the trauma of having to raise a child born out of her being raped.

Because the theme of the story.

All life is a miracle.

All children deserve to be loved.

Even if it was rape.

Except it’s more complicated than that, and I’m terrified to think that Isayama may not understand that.

So for now, I choose to presume that Historia is pregnant because she loves someone, decided to have a family with them, and we’re being led to believe she was raped for shock value.

But arguably more important is what this means for the queer audience.

Historia’s first love interest was another woman.

She’s queer. A lesbian. A dyke. What have you.

Now you’re telling me she either loves a man, or was not only raped, but has to love and accept the child that results from that trauma?

And for what?

So we can end the manga on a speech by Historia moralizing about the value of posterity?

Historia stands at the nexus of two subjects in this manga: the value of posterity and the denigration of queer people.

It is very homophobic of this series to pair a queer character with a dude to affirm a message about the value of children and motherhood.

As if queer people can’t have children.

We seem to be headed down that path.

It didn’t have to be like this.

Queer people can have children through artificial insemination. And artificial insemination is conceivable with Paradis’ current level of technological development.

Isayama is choosing to do this because queer people are not a part of his vision of a world where people, especially children, are able to live free.

That’s very sad, because it shows how empty SNK’s morals are.

So who’s the slave here?

Who here is truly free?

The ones who are free are the ones who aren’t reading Attack on Titan anymore.

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snkpolls · 3 years

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0aurelion-sol0 · 3 years

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SNK 134: Why we need to move forward.

Well...

That's horrifying...

Oh but whatever they are probably bad people in there. Thieves, greedy people, hateful mothers, men who beat their wives , liars, bullies, killers, murderers, rapist, child rapist and racist babies.

Yeah...

This is a rhetoric that has been used for ages and is currently being used in this fandom especially on reddit and 4chan.

The justification of injustice.

When George Floyd was slammed on the ground and died because he couldn't breathe anymore, conservatives and republicans at large ignored the police brutaliy leading up to that.

He was just a cocaine or drug addict who one day pointed a gun at a pregnant lady. So he was a criminal and deserved that.

Of course ignoring the racial segregation that happened from the very legalized slavery hundreds of years ago and how poor and racially stigmatized black people are being in America right now.

When the Uyghurs are being genocided by China, the world blinds itself because China is one the worlds necessary assets in economy as it basically produces a good chunk of what is being used in the world. Most made by children, " but it makes us live "... Apparently that's the only logical reason...

When Palestinians and Israelis are literally killing each other over some complicated non sense that no one ever really understands and also Israël basically doing Apartheid at this point,

When the totality of the Middle East has turned into a warzone because of the United States's violent imperialism,

When most far right or extremist group decided that Islam and Islamic terrorism are the same thing,

When xenophobes and racist always attack immigration,

"If she wasn't wearing that skirt, she probably wouldn't have been raped",

When we have homophobes, transphobes, LGBTphobes, telling us what's natural and always bragging about "\___-_-___/ God, Holy Jesus",

When you have people who tells you that poor people chose their way of living when there are a small percent of billionaires and soon to be trillionaires having such a gigantic amount of wealth,

When 6 millions Jews were genocided which was 40% of Jewish people at the time and 2/3 of European Jews,

When the prime minister of Israël is saying that the Holocaust wasn't Hitler's Idea but Haj Amin al-Husseini, (who was extremely anti semitic, don't get me wrong)who suggested it to him maiking the prime minister a revisionist but at the same time making his actions against Palestinians justified,

When around the world Christianic places of worship are being vandalized,

When entire SYSTEMS of segregations have made societies work,

When the South American continent has been attacked by the United States because of different political beliefs,

When people use their rape as a way to attack other communities of a specific religion or color,

When Black Panthers uses racism against White people because of the story of USA and are being anti semitic but essentializing a whole group,

When Nationalistic Israelis tells you what is a good Jew and what isn't a good Jew,

When dozens of groups have been forced to extinction,

Natives who were being murdered, yeah? YOU DON'T SEE THAT A LOT IN YOUR COWBOY MOVIES ?

When literal "feminist" calls for the destruction of men while they can't educate the kids about what to do and what not to do, OH, can also be transphobic apparently,

When you have entire websites who encourages pedophilia,

And pedophiles killed, left alone and live a life of endless torment while no one does nothing to help them and fight those who encourages it even in the highest places of our society,

Oh and Hollywood, that's all I need to say.

And let's not even talk about animal brutality and the destruction of ecosystems.

And there is more and more and more and more and more and FUCKING MORE,

All that because of reasons, reasons, reasons, reasons,

All stuck in a cycle of hate, violence and discrimination that just never ends.

The selfishness,

The greed,

And at end, everything is meaningless. There is just blood.

This is what this chapter represent the meaningless of it all. How everything goes to shit...

How everyone, whether it's the oppresor or the oppresed, will justify the violence, the injustice.

Society does nothing cause society right now runs for the entitled and the entitled only and creates it's own monsters.

I want to ask those people who defend the rumbling.

After everything we saw in this manga, after what the real world has commited, after how much these real events have inspired this story, how can you say it was the only way ?

After everyone hided Hange valuable informations including Eren who had information about KRUGER who was a spy in MARLEY. Who has created a civil war in Eldia and activated the rumbling while killing Eldian civilians in the way.

After seeing the mental breakdown of Bertolt, who we don't hear about anymore, Annie and Reiner's mental breakdown over GENOCIDING AN ENTIRE GROUP OF PEOPLE, by the way Reiner totally didn't develop another persona at that time to cope with what he was doing, HUH ?

After all the deaths, Carla, Grisha, Dina, Faye Marco, Levi's squad, Ymir, Erwin, Sasha, Hange, Hannes, Floch and many others, how can you go and be like "CHAD EREN, BEING DADDY, FUCKING HIS MEAT WAIFU, PHILOSOPHER FREEDOM SEEKER"

"104th crybabies... xDdDDDD Prfrpfr"

Come on...

This isn't serious at this point.

And for the H character, we're gonna come back for her but...

GODDAMNIT!

THANK YOU, DEATH.

This has sparked debates.

Some are thankful for this speech by the commander.

Others are finding it disingenous.

Others think it's too on the nose and not natural.

Others don't care.

On my part, I enjoy it but I take it with the context. Most of their airships have been destroyed and they are facing their doom upfront right now. It's more of a death plea at this point. Just like in the cave with Histor... GOD IT'S SO HARD SAYING HER NAME... with Historia who said truly horrible things at the point of an imminent death. At that moment, words like this can tell what you really are inside but even that is not enough to have a full picture.

It did have some interesting elements.

It is true, using, raising, breeding hate and shoving problems upon a group will always come bite you up the ass someday.

Marley in their extensive and violent coloniaslistic, imperialiatic behavior towards Eldia creates only weaknesses for them on an international field and create this monstruosity that is right now Eren.

Eren, a soldier who suffer from trauma and PTSD, who has terrible insecurities and everything to lose after losing so much and possibly in my book being influenced by another entity decides to kill them all.

But...

In no way does that justify Eren's actions, in fact it goes against it.

He is just as angry and hateful as they were back then but instead of destroying the system, he decides to genocide.

Essentializing the whole world as your ennemy and problem, and deciding to get rid of it is just continuing what has been started and continued for hundreds of years before.

No one ever thinks about the simple families, the innocent children, the homeless...

What about them Eren ?

What about the people who faced discrimination like Ramzi ?

What about the other groups that are almost extinct just like yours ?

What about the groups that tried to support the Eldians but were considered freaks ? HUH ?

What about the babies and innocent children ?

Isayama is even spelling it out for you this chapter.

Is he not worth it ? To stop all this ?

He was born into this world just like every other baby.

Look at that while everyone, is trying to jump off, their trying to save the baby. Even if it's probably impossible. That's humanity right there.

And... jesus christ...

I literally saw people who said that the mother was dumb to give it to the people because titans were behind them.

I can't even...

Imagine if Eren is the daddy of H's Baby and that he completes the genocide, killing his friends or even persuading them and at the end he is saying you are free to this baby.

So this baby is worth more than this baby ?

He is more legitimate to live than him.

I can't even imagine what the arguments would be like with the Eren stans:

"He's protecting his friends."

While literally challenging them to fight and right now trying to kill them.

"Well, you know the Rumbling is horrible but they got what was coming for them. They did nothing to help Paradise."

While forgetting the complexity of human nature, how banalization of these acts of violence have come to be BECAUSE...

These just like me and you are just simple people. With simple lives and not too much power who can't do anything about it.

Most of the people today sees all the suffering in the world, they just don't have the power, nor the will to go against such complex geo-political conflicts.

Would you be able to just resolve the Israelo-Palestinian conflict ? I don't think so, so shut your ass down with this argument.

These people can't change the world with power that they have and the one that has the power to change that, is killing them right now. BRAVO.

" Well, uh, the child is a child, parents might be racist and uh... child maybe is racist or will become racist..."

God...

Just because someone has done horrible shits or is an horrible shit doesn't mean he should die like this.

Here it is people, how we work as human :

Fuck redemption and possible solutions, let's kill everyone who did something bad.

Y'all would have been perfect during monarchies time.

And like... having an argument on a baby should face genocide is just fucking disgusting.

AND DON'T GIVE ME THE BULLCRAP OF FICTION DOESN'T EQUAL REALITY!

That you are interested into what could bring the Rumbling in terms of thematics and story is fine.

BUT ENDORSING IT ?

Do y'all even hear yourselves sometimes ?

You just sound like every racist, bigoted, fascist and violent person that has ever existed.

You're just excited to see someone die because he commited something wrong, sadistic pricks.

You're no different. Perhaps the guy who was talking to Grisha in chapter 97, who was a Marleyan and gave serums to Eldian is right. When he was talking to Grisha, Isayama use it to break the fourth wall and talk to the readers.

Why do we watch this, all this violence ?

" Because it's fun!"

" People take peace for granted!"

" Of course we're abnormal in society's eyes."

" We wish to exterminate all eldians!"

" Your sister did nothing wrong. Shame she was an Eldian!"

The fun fact is that this guy is a racist fuck but he dies pushed by Kruger and killed by his very own creation: a titan.

Why do people endorse genocide ?

" Because it's justice!"

" They got what was coming for them!"

" Isayama is just showing us that genocide is not really wrong if you just understand the concept of morals. Puritans."

" Humanity can die, they deserve it!"

" I'm sad for Ramzi, he didn't do nothing wrong but you know... maybe he didn't have good ideas about Eldians."

While also saying why children could deserve genocide. \____@-@____/

Of course I found most of these on Reddit and 4chan, the nazi propaganda website. Tumblr is a little free of it.

Babies....

Literally babies...

That remind me of somethin'...

OH YEAH!

QUEER NO MORE.

*put gloves on*

PUUUUUUUSSHH!!! COOOOOOOMMEEE OOONN!!!!

Breathe...

I SEEEEE THE HEAAADDD, IT'S HEREEEEEE!!!!

Natalie, bring the bucket, quick!

Of fuck she shitted on herself a little bit!

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So ?

Y'all like my fanfic ?

It's about how Erehisu is canon and how Historia is actually thinking about Eren right now because she is blushing.

But also about how Historia actually looks good and sexy while being pregnant and how she looks so happy!

She also is a lesbian that turned straight.

I'm so proud of my work.

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In all honesty...

This is... dissapointing and an insult to Historia fans. Why ? What is the purpose or the reason ? Being tragic ? To show how far Historia can go to protect her loved ones ? A female Eren so ?

I always leaned towards the fake pregnancy even if I don't know how something like that could be really pulled. I didn't understand this choice for his storytelling. The others I understand but this one...

O_o

What the fuck ?

So she really is pregnant ? But nothing leading up to it makes sense.

The character whose thematics still rings too much true for this arc is put in the background and as a breeding farm on top of that.

It even came to a point I started people to stop asking about her.

I had faith in her presence in the final arc. That she would have a role play.

But now ?

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For people who don't understand why this aspect of story is wrong, we have to break it down.

First off, Historia one of the first queer characters with Ymir in SNK. Others are suspected but these two are the few that holds a definitive representation as queer.

Most often in media or in real life, LGBT people have been forced into a situation that requires them to fall under heterosexuals lives. Here Historia is forced to be pregnant, yes in a way she agreed because of her people, but at the same time she didn't really want it.

For queer people, like me, this still rings true. Too much true. People literally forces you to go for your opposite sex everytime, to have a family.

No, stop forcing your view of your own life or desire of life on other people.

The fact that the fandom rationalizes that and says that she is happy and in love with Eren is just so fucking weird.

It either is blind ship following, heteronormativity or not understanding the story.

And I saw people saying she might be bisexual. This doesn't change anything. Also ignoring the fact that she hasn't shown any attraction to men other than women in the story.

If she is bisexual, it doesn't change anything, she is still queer. Not semi-straight AND EVEN IF SHE WAS A WOMAN WHO HAPPENED TO BE STRAIGHT, SHE IS STILL FORCED INTO SOMETHING SHE DID NOT WANT.

Bisexual is not semi-straight, semi-gay.

It's bisexual.

Bisexual, Straight and Homosexuality are not the same thing.

And if she was straight, that doesn't make it acceptable. It's just sick.

Just because you're a straight woman doesn't mean you are going to be more happy or have god like duty to have kids.

I just don't understand it...

A manga who was so progressive with his female characters reduces Historia to this.

Imagine...

Just imagine...

Eren is the father. I would shoot myself in the face. A forced straight relationship at the end for the pleasure of shonen readers and heteronormative readers.

" What if I have baby, Eren ?"

" Only if it is from me. I want him to live and have FREEDOM!"

" It's open bar, honey." *saying this after hearing the guy says he's going to genocide which goes against her own values and actions as queen*

Ew... Just ew...

And even worse she wasn't supposed to give birth right now, she was supposed to give birth in a few months.

She could DIE. SHE IS 19. This is dangerous.

Everyone is like this is normal.

THIS IS NOT NORMAL. *sigh*

This goes against what she is supposed to have as a character development.

The fact that she would be okay for genocide while as a queen she reached out to the most weak and in need is fucking incoherent.

No. This doesn't make sense. Even Eren said that Historia's action as a queen were to help others. How could she be okay sitting at her house ? Telling no one about what Eren was going to do ? And becoming a breeding farm ? What is the logic in that ?

Why make it suspicious than ?

The only thing that was able to make any logical sense to me was that the person we are seeing here isn't Historia.

I know if my theory is right, it's sick, even more sick.

The only times we saw Historia after the timeskip was during flashbacks, the reveal at 107 and possibly at the end of 123.

If this is her at the end of 123, I want to ask you why is she all prepared, why is she all dressed up and why is she wearing the same clothes in 134 that she is wearing 107. Something doesn't add up.

She is young, small-petite, blonde and her belly and face are hidden.

I was only able to go through the theory that this is a fake Historia. Than who it is than ?

Well, I searched for female characters who look like her or who could look like Historia right now. From all the characters that we haven't seen coming coming back and that has interacted with Historia, there is only one.

Rico Brzenska.

For those, who don't remember her : She was a Garrison Member who helped Mikasa and Eren during the Trost Arc and also helped Historia while she was exhausted during the Clash of the Titans Arc.

She hasn't appeared ever since the start of the Return to Shiganshina Arc unlike many of the older characters.

She is the only one I see who could pass as Historia I think.

I know this is still sick. But this is the only way I would be able to make Historia get out of this crappy storyline and play some relevance in the story. And if we look at Rico and Historia in 107, they kinda look the same. They have the heart shaped face, they are both small and they both have this sort of closed eyelids.

One line that just stuck with me of Rico was:

"Hiding/Lying about Eren's rampage in the report wouldn't have benefited humanity. "

This was during Eren's trial before joining the Survey Corps. What was discused was when Eren lost control of himself during the Trost Arc and attacked Mikasa.

The second line that struck was the one where she holds Historia who is exhausted in her arms:

"Wow! Who is this girl, is she okay ?"

I don't know why it just pushed that theory. And I kinda believe it now, because no one can make me believe that there is something satisfying coming out of this. Why would she sacrifice herself for Historia ? Well, I don't really know but Rico was always a little wary of Eren, even after the Trost Arc but yeah ultimately for Rico being able to give her own life for Historia. I don't know about that. But with this manga you never now. It is a very dark and twisted theory but this is the only logical thing I can see right now since no answers have been provided.

Monkey is BACK

Zeke is back and like most of us predicted, Eren dragged him with him. And I'm not gonna lie, the way he was attached to the spine was pretty badass.

He is used as a puppet which reinforces the theory for me that all three of them: Eren, Ymir and Zeke are being used by the Attack Titan.

I cannot understand Eren's illogical behavior especially after seeing the train scene where he says he wants them to live long happy lives and than having him kill his friends.

Ymir the first being free and having eyes to returning to having no eyes just like before and Eren.

And Zeke would have never agreed to the Rumbling. And we can't see his eyes either.

And...

Thank you, 104th for existing.

Because...

After how much shit they have gone through and after how much the fandom, not just the Eren stans, have mocked them. Like the fandom has been the biggest asshole to the the Alliance while they were the ones who were able to survive through the sentence " Genocide is wrong!" that so many people seems to find to be so hard to say.

I will root for them until the bitter end, I don't care. They are the one who are fighting. You can call Cringevengers all you want but I am glad they are winning.

They all suffered like Eren but they didn't prioritize their own and only feelings above everything else and they stood by for the values they fought for since they joined the Survey Corps. Even if I have to admit they have, for most of them, conflicted feelings with what they were doing and have done things like trying to talk to Eren while it's obvious he wasn't going to talk and that in a situation like this I don't think someone would try to stop Eren by just talking.

Levi, and it would be foolish to not recognize it, is being consumed by his promise but he is restraining it and still is able to think about the bigger picture.

There's one thing I really like about this is Armin asking Eren:

"Eren... I'll ask you one last time... "What part of you is free" after we rip you out from there... "

Hehe... yes... what part of you is free ?

To be honest, there's many things I don't want for the ending.

A Lelouch Ending, it was all Eren's plan. Literally wouldn't make sense. No one would be questionning his free will and he wouldn't have these weird shits happening to him.

A Code Geass ending, why would Mikasa have to kill Eren, what does that add to her as a character ? More tragedy ? No she doesn't have the scarf, it's pretty telling what place she's at right now.

Eren being the daddy. NO, JUST NO.

Everyone dies, genocide is the right thing. You know all the worst shit that can happen.

But most of all I want important plot points to be explored and moved over because ever since the timeskip, there has been no important plot points out the way. Eren's behavior, Ackertalk, Bertolttalk, Historia's Condition, Paths stuffs, answers!

Whatever... Trust me Peace is not something I take for granted. Being proud of myself and having a life with the least conflict and problem is something you fight for. Having rights, being recognized as a human.

Never lose that, fight for it. But never with injustice, be smarter and stronger. Cause at the end what unites us is not only what we have in common but what the perspective of what we have not in common can make a bigger picture of what we are as humans. We all are different and have a different story with similarities but in the end, we are human and born into this world. And in that, we must move forward. In the present, because of the past and for the future.

We all wish for the problems to go away but if it's for the solutions to be rigged with injustice, it will not work. No one has acheived with genocide and never will.

It's kinda sad that this long of a post has to say this. Did y'all see that ? Pretty inspiring what I wrote. Oh well you know what ? If they can be bigoted why can't I myself.

Here's a song I wrote:

(Fuck everyone and you.

We hate women

There are only 2 genders, the breeder and the breeded.

Everything is degenerate.

We hate brown, Arab and Muslim people.

Genocide is cool

And Hitler was too.)

I know but you know what, at least if they want a spy for Nazi Germany someday. They'll know not to give it to me because I'd laugh at the stupidity of the people just like you and I are doing with the rest of world cause for all the shits it gives us, it's entertaining.

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falcon94ssy · 3 years

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Please ignore me I just made a meme to practice my PS skills.

#snk 134 in a nutshell #snk spoilers #snk 134 #hajime isayama #snk memes #snk chapter 134

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aotopmha · 3 years

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Even if the horror of Historia's pregnancy is intentional and withholding her perspective is deliberate mystery writing, it's still kind of screwed up that right after her gay love interest is killed and there has been no hints of any strong romantic hetero relationships from her part, she's narratively forced into a pregnancy (something that is still being directly or indirectly forced onto women, be gay or straight) and basically turns into a doll in a rocking chair.

As I said, maybe that's the point. Ymir says the world (the system) is probably the enemy. But now Historia's basically the damsel in distress - this system needs to be destroyed in order for her (and her child) to be free. It is also a parallel to old Ymir, who also had her agency stolen by her circumstances and the system she lived under.

It is good commentary, but at the same time, the narrative basically removes her perspective and feelings from the equation, basically playing into what it is criticizing.

And maybe that is intentional, too. One of the aspects I've liked about AoT and at first didn't notice at all, is that its character writing and themes are reflected in the series on a meta level.

When we didn't know about the greater context of the world, we were there to discover it with the characters.

When Jean talked about how nobody gets a glorious death and people just kind of die in war in response to Marco's death, this has been reflected in the narrative level with even the most heroic deaths being fairly quick and not lingered-on that much.

Likewise, chapter 134 was literally called In the Midst of Despair.

We're generally supposed to be upset about narrative decisions that make us upset.

The EMA argument in chapter 112, Gabi's short-sightedness, anything Eren does since the timeskip, really, and, yes, Historia's pregnancy are supposed to be upsetting.

Personally I would've given up on the series a long time ago if it weren't for this kind of emotional intelligence and sort of indirect self-awareness from its writing. It seems simple to do at first glance, but very few works of fiction I've consumed have done this really well.

To me most of the time the flaws stories have come from an inability to look at themselves.

To bring a few examples from AoT:

-There has been an strong emphasis on how Erwin would've logically been the better choice over Armin being revived since Levi made his decision back on the rooftop in Shiganshina.

Everyone, including Armin himself, have said Erwin probably was the better choice. This, thus, tells us that the choice being irrational is the whole point of that moment.

-Gabi's fierce hatred of the Eldians is the whole basis of her character, her character arc serves as a positive reflection of Eren's character arc. Thus, the whole point of her character is that she is short-sighted and grows out of that perspective because she is given a chance to see outside of her world when she is very young and not yet completely broken down by Marley.

I love this kind of hyper-aware writing when it is not overdone and trying to cover every tiny possible hole with long, tedious explanations, but sticks to concise lines.

I think the time travel aspect brought into the story in the paths chapters is exactly this, too.

Some stories dedicate a lot of time to justify their narrative choices, but AoT just rolls with it, whether you like them or not.

Now, to what level to accept this style of writing is another thing entirely, and this is where I loop back around to Historia.

To me the silver lining to how Historia's character is being written right now is that the story clearly knows the horror of her position.

But the point it seems to make also feels self-defeating. Yes, society forces women into this and it is horrible, but at the same time, the only voices in the story that defend and speak out for her are anyone's but hers.

You could write a mystery while giving her at least something to say about her position and how she is feeling.

Right now, in the span of the 27 chapters the mystery about Historia's child has been up in the air, she had only a couple of lines to say and this isn't like Mikasa where I think her actions by themselves can say a lot about her, Historia has literally been glued on a rocking chair.

Even as she seems to be writhing in pain and suffering in chapter 134, we still don't see any of Historia's thoughts.

Yes, everything going on with Historia is supposed to be a mirror of the old Ymir, but old Ymir basically only was in a single chapter, not about two years worth of chapters.

So, even if it something is smart, it can still be executed poorly and I think Historia is pretty much the one example of this in the series to me.

This is all judging the story based on the current chapter, which is 134.

No matter how obvious or frustrating some possibilities might seem, I'm not going to judge a story before it comes out.

AoT has been good enough for me to determine I'm going to follow it through to the end and then weigh the good and the bad of the entire work.

It will either end up my ultimate problematic fave or a great story with a flawed final arc, I think I know that much.

#Attack on Titan #Shingeki no Kyojin #Historia Reiss #AoT Chapter 134 #SnK Chapter 134 #Chapter 134 #AoT #SnK

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rivaille-13 · 3 years

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I'm technically bored in my life so I did a few observations... I am a RivaMika shipper, so these mostly focus on Levi and Mikasa.

This is the last panel we have seen the Alliance on Chapter 133. Sorry, I needed to replace Pieck with a watermelon.

The last line ended with Levi saying "...Now what, Commander?" His face appeared to be somewhere in the middle of disappointed and sad. Plus the fact that Levi only call people in their ranks whenever he wanted a quick response and solution to a problem.

While judging from the face of Mikasa, she appeared to be very frustrated and anxious.

Take note: Frustrations and anxiety cannot be wiped out in just a few minutes or an hour, it all depends if someone would talk to you about it just to ease it even if it's just a bit. YKWIM

Take note II: Look at their positions

Ok, next. This is the first panel in Chapter 134 where the Alliance first appeared.

This is the part where it gets really tricky. First, notice their present positions. It is very different from the last chapter (well, ofc we could predict that they are moving and planning) and

Just look at the quick transition of Mikasa's face. In Chapter 133, she was left all sweaty and frustrated but we see her again in the latest chapter now looking READY to shed guts and glory. Her expression looked like she's been eased even just a little... It's just a hunch but Ackertalk something DID really happen off screen.

Then next panel is this:

Another parallel for the Ackersenses which happened in a lot of panels in the manga that in the end, these two Ackerman succeeded by teamwork.

I won't dig in deeper the parallel between Levi and Mikasa as our fellow RivaMika blogger already tackled it (Berserk Mode/God Mode)

But what really amused me is this:

The part where the plane was being attacked by the fucking monkey, and they all go anti gravity mode, my curiosity leads me thinking that why the hell did Levi and Mikasa got so close to each other literally that when the plane go brr brr they ended almost crashing to each other?

Notice that Levi was not included in the first panel where the Alliance appeared in Chapter 134. (Or other words, we do not clearly know where was he positioned, is he still sitting or standing? Did he talk with someone?)

Notice that Mikasa's doesn't look that much frustrated anymore in the earlier panels.

Notice how everyone switched positions. (Jean with Armin and Onyankopon off screen, Levi and Mikasa, then Reiner with Pieck and Connie) we could assume that they built strategies off screen

Notice how Levi looked protecting Mikasa with his arms here, oh shit, I crossed the line I think

Next part is the gorgeous face of Levi Ackerman. I mean, just going to point out some few things here. Of course, Levi is mad because that fucking monkey is still alive and we all know that Levi is really itching to kill it. That explained his expression right there, while right here...

Notice the quick transition of his I'm-going-to-fucking-kill-you-bearded-bastard face then to a somehow worried/sad/weary face. Just maybe a hunch and opinion, but I do think it has something to do with Mikasa's expression in the same panel.

I'm guessing that maybe Armin let them talk for a short moment because Armin knew from the start that of all people, Levi is the one who understand Mikasa the most.

So another hunch is that it may have the possibility that Levi talked to her about killing Zeke... then maybe Eren for the better good.

Because her face clearly say it in this panel. That she looked like she had a discussion with Levi someone about saving humanity and freeing herself from always saving Eren's flat ass.

And oh, just look at how cute Levi is there... Hello tiny boi Levi

So that's just it... That's just my messed up observations and it's only just a hunch at the same time my opinion about the latest chapter. Pardon for my shitty explanations, I am still frustrated... I may be right or I may be really wrong, but I appreciate if we would all respect each other's opinion. Thank you!

And oh, the last picture somehow connects it... "However... If those two (Levi and Mikasa), they could beat it..." -Armin Arlert

#rivamika #levi x mikasa #mikasa x levi #snk levi #levi attack on titan #levi #levi ackerman #mikasa aot #levi and mikasa #shingeki no kyojin mikasa #mikasa ackerman #ackerman clan #attack on titan #snk chapter 133 #snk chapter 134 #armin arlert

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muryokuusho · 3 years

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These panels ruined me so much. Just destroyed me. All the time i see an image of rumbling i always feel bad but this... I think ive never been so out of words...

#shingeki no kyojin #snk #attack on titan #aot 134 spoilers #snk 134 spoilers #snk spoilers #aot spoilers #aot 134 #snk 134 #aot chapter 134 #snk chapter 134

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prapo237 · 3 years

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This is Annie in the next chapter. After she grew wings because she ate bits of Falco.

Just imagine how she’s flying like this over the whole massacre Eren has done. Like an angel. Or something like that.

This picture ist a screenshot of a OVA. And this Titan is originally Historia. I think.

#just a Random thought #but would be cool #shingeki no kyojin #aot spoilers #snk spoiler #attack on titan #snk chapter 134

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momtaku · 3 years

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I think I got lost, why did Historia really need to get pregnant?

We still don’t know. Her motivations are a mystery. But while we don’t yet know why, after recording the podcast and kicking ideas around with @hamiet , Puppet and Luna, I have some loose theories about what.

I’d said early on that if Historia genuinely was pregnant it was either forced on her so she’d be unable to eat Zeke, or else she’d gotten pregnant in an attempt to stop the genocide. I still don’t like either of those options so I’ll wait for a future chapter to provide deets, but here we are. The world is being rumbled. and there is a strong focus on children being slaughtered as Historia goes into labor. Meanwhile, there’s a fight happening and a strong likelihood of titan shifters being killed.

Chapter 88 informed us that if a shifter dies without being properly consumed, that shifters power goes to a random Eldian baby. I’d expect with the rumbling in full swing, there aren’t many Eldian babies remaining so how convenient there’s one being born on Paradis.

My guess is Historia’s baby is going to inherit a shifter power at birth. It doesn’t matter whose. Historia being a royal holding her newborn shifter will be able to enter PATHS and become relevant in some way, either by talking to Ymir, Eren or Zeke or having some actual power there.

I stand by Historia’s mission being to save people. Eren knew it too. She’s not the worst girl. She’s someone who wants to find people in trouble, no matter where and save them. Chapter 134 gives us million of people who fit this description.

If Eren is killed and titans are still marching or else if Eren is continuing his murderous rampage and OGYmir needs an actual compassionate voice to listen to, Historia would be a good option. I still hate everything about this, but Historia helping to save the world would feel pretty good.

Anyway, just a theory. Thought I’d share.

Thanks for the ask!

#chatting with friends #Historia reiss #fake pregnancy #snk chapter 134 #snk theories #Anonymous

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