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"I see a song of past romance, I see the sacrifice of man, I see portrayal of betrayal and a brother's final stand. I see you on the brink of death, I see you draw your final breath, I see a man who gets to make it home alive but it's no longer you."
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I hate to say it, but Polites' death was even sadder than I first thought. Not only did he, Odysseus's best friend, die a horrible death, but his beliefs died with him. His song was all about convincing Odysseus to great the world with open arms, to be kind to his foes, but his death causes Odysseus to not only abandon those beliefs, but move in the complete opposite direction.
This is reinforced by "No longer you", with Tiresias telling Odysseus that the man who returns home isn't him anymore. That's because the old Odysseus, the one who believed in kindness and open arms, died with Polites, but the new Odysseus from "Monster" who believes in ruthlessness, in making it home no matter the cost, survives. He doesn't just become the monster, he destroys the other parts of him who believed what Polites did. In other words, Open arms Ody dies, but Ruthlessness is mercy Ody lives.
Sorry for the ramble but those are just my thoughts and interpretation of the Underworld Saga.
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Odysseus: WHO?!?!?!
Tiresias, just vibing: I see a song of past romance~
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Well, Jorge Rivera Herrans…
You are paying for my therapy.
Okay so here are my opinions on the songs within the latest saga.
The Underworld: Fucking CHILLS. When I told you I shrieked when I heard Polites’ voice, I mean I SHRIEKED. Hearing him singing his last thoughts (Aka; OPEN ARMS.) absolutely shattered me into a million pieces. And to rub salt into the wound, ANTICLEA. ANTICLEA WAS SINGING OUT HER LAST THOUGHTS BEFORE TAKING HER OWN LIFE. I AM CRYING. “ODYSSEUS WHEN YOU COME HOME, I’LL BE WAITING” 😭 (AND SHE’S PLAYED BY HIS ACTUAL MOTHER?!)
I had high standards for this song and it broke me. Well done, Captain Jalapeño. 🫡
No Longer You: Mason has a BEAUTIFUL voice. And the emotion mixed into each and every single word Odysseus had to say gave me chills. And the fact the man Tiresias was speaking of was HIM??? I had to give it a second listen to realize it wasn’t Antinous he was speaking of. I also liked Mason’s delivery as Tiresias. You could tell in the song he was overwhelmed with all those prophecies. And the instrumental really topped it off for me with the way it spiraled!!!
Monster (Rawr rawr rawr 🦖): MONSTER. MONSTER WAS A ROLLERCOASTER.
I know I’ve been rambling about the Emotions in Ody’s voice but oh my god, THIS. THE BROKENNESS IN HIS VOICE HAD ME IN A CHOKEHOLD!!! AND THE DANGER MOTIF??? THIS SONG WAS BEAUTIFUL.
WELL DONE JAY.
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TIRESIAS
“I see a man who gets to make it home alive, but it’s no longer you-“
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I see a man who gets to make it home alive But it's no longer you
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I am the prophet, with the answers you seek...
Underworld saga going crazy
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OH MY GOD THE UNDERWORLD SAGA SLAPPED!!!!!!!!!
Things about it that made me insane:
- POLITES?????
- Jay's mom as Odysseus' mom!!!!
- Odysseus' mom singing the SAME 'WAITING' NOTES AS PENELOPE DOES IN THE CHALLENGE
- MASONS VOICE!!!
- The ominous introduction into Everything That's Going On In Ithaca™ in no longer you (IT WAS DONE SO WELL)
- WHO??
- The part at the end of Monster where he sings the Penelope and Telemachus themes just like he did at the start of the Horse and the Infant!!!!!
Anyway great saga 10/10 so excited for act 2!!!
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I SEE A MAN WHO GETS TO MAKE IT HOME ALIVE‼️‼️ BUT IT'S NO LONGER YOU‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️
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I had a vision
Owldysseus
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Epic Odysseus and Tiresias :)
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Tiresias:
You might be a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Odysseus:
Oooooh! 🥰
Tiresias:
No, it’s a bad thing.
Odysseus:
… Well then couldn’t you say I have self-fulfilling prophecy???
Source: Taylor Tomlinson: Look At You
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If you haven’t listened to the Underworld Saga yet, here’s your spoiler warning.
@thekingofworems @jarondont @aaronofithaca05 @nyx-of-darkness-1620 did y’all get a chance to listen yet? I need people to talk about this with!
Apologies in advance for all the capslock you’re about to see.
Y’ALL
I CAN’T
MR. JORGE, MR. JALAPEÑO
WHY MUST YOU BREAK MY HEART LIKE THIS
THE UNDERWORLD
POLITES?!?! THE EMOTION IN ODYSSEUS’ VOICE WHEN HE HEARD POLITES?!?! QUIETLY SAYING HIS NAME AS THEY SAIL AWAY LIKE HE’S APOLOGIZING?!?!?! DJFNSISYDJSUDB
ODYSSEUS’ MOM?!?!?! I WAS NOT EXPECTING THAT!!!! “Even if you’re the last thing I see I’ll be waiting” “I’m right here mom, can’t you see me?” OH MY FUCKING GOD SIR!!!! JORGE!!!! “I took too long and ventured too far” SIR MY HEART IS BREAKING!!!! “I’ll always love you, I’ll stay in your heart” SIR YOU’RE DOING THIS ON PURPOSE!!!! THE SOFT LITTLE “bye mom” AS THEY SAILED AWAY?!?! FOLLOWED IMMEDIATELY BY JORGE JUST BELTING HIS HEART OUT?!?! *HIGH PITCHED SCREAMING* ALSO, THE NAMES LISTED ON THE SONG INCLUDE WANDA HERRANS, ARE YOU TELLING ME JORGE’S MOM VOICES ODYSSEUS’ MOM?!
NO LONGER YOU
MASON OLSHAVSKY’S VOICE IS SO GOOD!!THIS WHOLE SONG IS PERFECTION!! “This can’t be, we’ve suffered and sailed through the toughest of hells, now you tell us our efforts for nothing” EXCUSE ME MR. HERRANS WHAT THE HECK! “I see your palace covered in red, faces of men who had long believed you dead, I see your wife with a man who is haunting, and man with a trail of bodies” THE FORESHADOWING?! THE WAY ODYSSEUS REACTED WHEN TIRESIAS SAID HE SAW PENELOPE WITH A MAN WITH A LINE OF BODIES?! HIS OUTRAGED “WHO!!!”SIR?!?!?!?! THAT’S YOU MY GUY!!! YOU’RE THE HAUNTING GUY WITH A TRAIL OF BODIES!!!
MONSTER
I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS SONG SINCE I HEARD THE FIRST SNIPPET AND IT DID NOT DISAPPOINT!!! OH MY GOD WHAT THE HELL I HAVE NO WORDS!!! THIS IS MY NEW FAVORITE EPIC SONG!!! I kinda knew that was gonna happen but shh 🤫
I’m not gonna talk about this song because if I do it will end up being an essay. Might make a separate post about it though.
I WILL BE LISTENING TO THIS SAGA ON REPEAT ALL DAY AND NO ONE CAN STOP ME!!!
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Underworld Saga Sketches
Here are some doodles I’ve done based on the underworld saga (as I listen to it on repeat). I’ll probably do more later-
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