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So like a minor pet peeve of mine: when people say that Marinette should've told Adrien about being threatened by Lila in the bathroom, his advice isn't coming from nowhere and isn't ignorant... because he was calm with Lila and she assaulted him as an akuma anyways, so Marinette being brazen makes him think that Lila would do something even worse to her.

I feel like people should acknowledge more that both of them were hurt by Lila in Chameleon.

Yeah. There’s also Adrien’s abusive upbringing to consider. But the problem I have with people saying that his high road advice is stupid and completely and obviously flawed logic is that Marinette tried to use the direct approach, and as we can see, IT DID NOT WORK. Going after Lila directly just gives her the opportunity to make herself look like the victim. I don’t care how popular or nice you are to people, you don’t just point the finger at someone for lying and give the justification of “because I said she’s lying, that means she’s lying”. Adrien clearly saw the way Lila was able to turn the tables on Marinette whenever she spoke out, so it’s not all that dumb for him to decide that waiting until her lies caught up with her was the better, more effective approach, as to not prolong the exposure by casting doubt with baseless accusations.

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Do you think if Marinette had told Adrien about Lila’s threat, would it have change anything?

Absolutely. Adrien just thought Lila was seeking attention. Yes, she got Marinette kicked out of her seat but that was more like a side-effect of her lies than a direct result. Adrien has also seen Lila at her most vulnerable, when Ladybug yelled at her for making up a fairytale. As far as Adrien knew at that point, Lila was an outsider new kid, much like he once was, who just told wild stories to impress others. Personally, I think he asked Marinette to take the high road because he felt sorry for Lila. I think he believed that she lied about herself so much because she was deeply insecure and self-conscious and she believed that no one would like her if they didn’t think she did amazing stuff.

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Betrothed is my fave TT episode can you do some incorrect quotes with the DC kids Marcthanial? I’m interested to see how that unfolds.

Nathaniel: You're getting married?!

Marc: Indeed, and I cannot wait to return to Tamaran. I have been having a bit of the sick-home feeling lately, and am eager to introduce my home planet to you, my friends. First you must ingest some fresh-squeezed glorg, or perhaps sput-flinks! And wait until you see the portkins. They are as big as a flarnop!

Lacey: Um, am I the only one afraid of the big portkins?

Nathaniel: You're getting married?!

Aurore: Yeah, anyone we know?

Marc: I have never met him. My betrothed has been chosen for me by the Grand Ruler of Tamaran.

*Marc looks up to the spaceship´s window and sees Nathaniel on it*

Nathaniel: You're getting MARRIED? And to SOMEONE YOU'VE NEVER MET? *He notices that he's out of the ship in Outer space and quickly swims back into the ship to regain oxygen*

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Zoé: *Watching Marc, now hunched over on the table and stuffing his face* I'm guessing you picked up your table manners on Earth?

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Marc: I have missed you, Galfore.

Galfore: And I have missed you ... Prince Marc.

Villain/Hero Class: PRINCE?!?!?!!

Marc: *sheepishly* Oh, yes, I am...second in line for the throne. Perhaps I forgot to mention?

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Galfore: Nooba gulshtik Myzan'r sol! *He pounds a fist against his chest*

Marc: Hesbad rutha Galfore kank!

[Note: In the comics, Koriand'r was Starfire's given name.]

*Close-up of the giant; he snarls and pulls back from her, raising both meaty arms and bringing them down. He screams*

Zoé: Stop him!

*Zoé whips out a handful of discs, Ismael primes his laser eyes, Reshma's pincers snap menacingly, and Denise whips out the lasso of truth. Before anyone can move, though, Marc's scream gives way to laughter. Galfore has seized Marc and is chuckling as he tickles him*

Cosette: Um, unless they tickle people to death here, I think you can chill.

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Marc: Mavi?

Mavi: Surprised to see me, little brother?

Marc: *Glares* I am...surprised to see you out of prison!

Mavi: Oh, that. Well, after you had me thrown in jail, I got bored. So I broke out and took over Tamaran for kicks. But enough about me. I'm sure you're eager to see who you'll be spending the rest of your life with.

*A young man, bare-chested, very well built stands with a mane of hair blowing in the wind*

Marc: *Hearts in his eyes; drooling*

Nathaniel: *Crying in Denise's arms*

*The young man steps to the side to make way for something that drops in from above. It is very large, contained in a metal bowl that floats just above the floor, and made entirely of writhing green appendages that look something like slimy elephant trunks. It expels huge globs of slime that splatter against the floor. The creature lays an arm/tentacle on Marc, whose jaw drops as he gags*

Mavi: Marc, meet your groom...Glgrdsklechhh!

Cosette: Uh... Congratulations?

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Kim: I can't tell what's a bed, what's a chair, and what's alive! How am I supposed to take my beauty nap?

Nathaniel: How can you even think about sleep?! We can't let Marc go through with this!

Nino: Come on, man. You sure you're not just, you know...jealous?

Nathaniel: Of that ugly, smelly whatever-it-is? You saw his face, Nino. He doesn't even like him!

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Mavi: Can any among us offer reason why these two lovebirds should not be together...forever?... Didn't think so. Then...do you, Glgrdsklechhh, take Marc to be your wife, as decreed by the Grand Ruler of Tamaran?

*He makes some gross-ass sound. Mavi takes it as a yes*

Mavi: And do you, Marc, take Glgrdsklechhh to be your husband?

Marc: *Gags* I...I...

Mavi: Yes, brother dear?

Nathaniel: MARC!

*Suddenly, the doors burst open, revealing the Hero and Villain classes on the other side with their powers and weapons at the ready. Now the spectators turn to watch, murmuring amongst themselves at the disturbance, and guards move up to protect Mavi and the couple*

Blackfire: Silence! SILENCE! Do you wish to do what is right and take this thing to be your husband?!

Marc: I do ...not!

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*Marc takes a blast in the solar plexus that propels him most of the way to the far door*

Marc: I thought we agreed you would do what is best for Tamaran, little brother! You will marry the Schlurch!

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Kim: Let's hurry! I couldn't figure out how to use the bathrooms here!

Max: We are not having any accidents in the Ship! You get me?

Nathaniel: *To Marc* ... I'm glad you'll be staying with us for a long time and...not getting married.

Marc: Yes. The next time, I shall choose my own husband. Who is to know? Perhaps there is a groom for me on Earth.

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saw that you had done your own stories based on Disney chills and I never would have thought the house of mouse would allow stories styled after goosebumps with their popular villains and have them end very bleakly for the main characters. As someone who prefers happy endings I have yet to get one myself and I’m personally more interested in the twisted tales books (helps that I like the what if concept and what if is actually my fave mcu show) and any ideas on what could be done for a twisted tales type fic for one of the movies?

Cinderella: What if Anastasia and Drizella got a taste of their own medicine from their friends for abusing Cinderella?

Mulan: What if Mulan passed the Matchmaker’s test?

The Little Mermaid: What if Ariel got her kiss on the second day?

Beauty and the Beast: What if someone’s from Adam’s past came to the castle while Belle was there?

Pinocchio: What if Pinocchio tried to save the other boys on Pleasure Island?

Peter Pan: What if Tinker Bell’s friends from Pixie Hollow met Peter Pan?

The Legend of Sleepy Hollow: What if the Headless Horseman was actually Katrina Van Tassel?

The Sword in the Stone: What if Kay tried to overthrow Arthur out of jealousy?

The Goofy Movie: What if Max tricked his dad and ran away back home to keep his date?

Tarzan: What if Tarzan’s parents lived?

Lady & the Tramp: What if Tramp had a romantic rival for Lady?

And those are just some that popped into my head either randomly or looking at the WMG page for A Twisted Tales on TV Tropes

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Why Zutara Shippers are Wrong (JK, You can ship who you want lol)

(Although, I don't care if you do actually ship Zutara, that's your prerogative, I'm just waiting for better arguments for the relationship and for people to stop negatively viewing Kataang)

First of all, I'm premising this with the fact that I don't think that ATLA should have ended with Katara and Aang kissing. I think it would have been fine to just end with a slightly more intimate-than-friends hug/cuddle. I would have personally preferred that two children who survived being literal child soldiers get the chance to be kids before they delve into a more mature relationship with one another, but they didn't exactly have adults of the modern culture there to guide them a different way, now did they?

BUT! I am a firm believer that Zuko and Katara would never have worked out romantically and that Katara and Aang's relationship 1. makes more sense and 2. is actually healthier in the scope of trauma and trauma responses.

First of all, I don't understand how the creators of ATLA managed to craft literally the MOST traumatic childhood backstory ever with incredible detail and nuance and everyone just fricking glosses over it like WTF??? Not to mention, the creators did an amazing job diversifying trauma responses to similar trauma experiences.

Let's discuss Katara's childhood trauma, which was not healed magically after a little side quest with Zuko. Katara carries immense survivor's guilt over her mother's murder. Katara understands very well how and why her mother was brutally murdered in their family home. She has been deeply aware of this since the day of her mother's murder - and she fully blames herself. Katara understands that a fire nation soldier killed her mother, but he killed her because of Katara - she said so herself. Then, Katara, who was the last person to interact with her mother, discovers her mother's body, and it is insinuated that Katara might have even witnessed her mother's brutal execution-style murder. This forever alters Katara down to her core personality traits. Katara is 'bossy' because of her trauma. I work with kids from pre-k through graduating american high school. It's pretty normal for girls to do what I call 'mothering' to their peers and to kids younger than them. It often is described as being 'bossy' and some girls are in fact bossy, but for the most part, they are roleplaying a caretaker mentality as they are most familiar with. In Katara's deep guilt of being the reason her mother was murdered, her trauma response was burden herself with the role of mother. This is further antagonized when her father leaves with the rest of the adult men to fight against the Fire Nation. He might've well as died too due to lack of communication for many years. Sokka does not allow Katara to mother him for very long, so she doesn't get to have a chance to work through her personal trauma response to her grief because she has no one to safely and consistently direct these mothering tendencies towards. The other children in the village are not orphans, their mothers are most likely very alive and very involved with them, so they would be temporary fillers at best. Sokka has stepped into the role of village man and definitely would reject Katara's mothering, which often led to tension between the siblings. Toph had the very reaction to Katara's mothering tendencies as I expect a young Sokka had to them. He lost his mother, too, he didn't want a replacement, nor did he want to lose his sister to the role of mother.

Zuko, in the same fashion as Sokka, had a mother who he loved, and lost, and was not looking to replace. Zuko's mother was also a topic that is deeply rooted in a lot of Zuko's personal trauma as well. Zuko did not get to spend much time with Katara for her mothering tendencies to be extended over him, but he definitely would have aggressively rejected them as Katara's trauma response would have negatively triggered his own. Their trauma would have deeply and negatively impacted any romantic relationship they could have developed because of how they would react to each other. Their relationship would have crashed and burned very quickly.

On top of that. Katara would have never left the South Pole indefinitely - that is her home, and she consistently returned to it throughout her life. That is an effect of her cultural upbringing. Zuko couldn't leave the Fire Nation, and as we saw in the graphic novels that followed, Zuko's personal welfare suffered greatly because his whole world was upended and now he was responsible for the one nation that didn't get peace at the end of the war. It's incredibly naive and slightly delusional for people to desperately push romantic wishes upon a sixteen-year-old boy who was burdened with the responsibility of healing an entire nation, one that fought him every step of the way in many aspects. He did not have the emotional energy to expend upon a frivolous relationship. That's why Mai and he broke up, not because they didn't love each other, but because Zuko simply could not have personal relationships until his reign and nation had stabilized - that alone would take upwards of 10 years. Plus, Zuko may have helped others work through parts of their trauma, but he had to address his trauma too, which we saw the beginnings of during the graphic novels. Simply put, by the end of ATLA and all of the graphic novels, Zuko was in no place emotionally, mentally, and even physically and politically to seek out a relationship that was meaningful and healthy. And I know that Zuko would have changed the tradition of political marriage, at the very least he deserves to have married for love at the end of everything he suffered through. Zuko is a great opportunity to normalize waiting until you're in your mid-twenties -thirties before seeking out romantic relationships. Logistically speaking, I don't think there would have been much opportunity for romantic feelings to develop between the two of them. I especially don't think Katara would have easily been able to live in the Fire Nation because the Fire Nation was directly responsible for her trauma, and that is also why I don't think she would have every pursued a relationship with a Fire Nation man, Zuko or not.

Now onto Aang. Everyone always jumps onto this idea that Katara and Aang had a very mother-son relationship - which is wrong. Aang comes from a culture that literally does not have mother and fatherhood. There are NO mothers and fathers in the Air Nomad Nation. Sure, kids had birth parents, but parenthood was not part of their culture, nor did Aang ever seek out that kind of relationship. Aang may have been kid-like, but he was the most adultified kid in the group. He was incredibly independent and confident in his ability to travel internationally by himself at 12. Katara had never thought to leave the South Pole to seek out a waterbending master in the North Pole because she didn't have that confidence or training. The Air Nomads thrived on a mentorship-based village raising of children. So, Aang never thought of Katara as his mother. He literally couldn't, because he had no scope of reference for such a relationship, same with fatherhood. He never had a parental relationship with Monk Gyasto. It was more like a fun uncle mentorship. I think that's why everyone thinks Aang was a bad father, but he was an outlier in the Air Nomad nation because there was no Air Nomad nation when he had children. The village that raised the children in his culture was gone. He was actually a fairly decent father and the two older children probably felt bitter because Tenzin was the only other air bender in existence so it obviously Aang is going to spend a lot of one on one time with Tenzin in the scope of mentoring Tenzin in the way of Air Nomad culture. Aang was not an absentee father like how many people assumed from the very one-sided and brief explanation given by the two older, jaded siblings. Was he perfect? No, he literally had no clue how to be a father. Did he and Tenzin leave to get milk and never come back? Also no. That being said, Aang was the only individual who was comfortable with Katara mothering him, he never felt threatened or overburdened by her trauma response, which allowed for Katara to genuinely work through her grief and mature out of the extreme bossy mothering we first saw in book one. If you pay attention, yes Katara does retain that 'bossy' kind of personality, but that was permanent fixture due to her childhood trauma and a little bit of cultural influence as well. I think, if Katara had never been traumatized, she would have always leaned towards a very soothing and nuturing type of personality, which we began to see in the middle of book three. Her bossiness/mothering trauma response gradually lessened the longer she 'mothered' Aang. Once again, neither of the two saw each other as Mother-son. They were simple too close in age and Aang also had the added sense of duty-boundness due to being the Avatar. Katara was always going to be a caretaker archetype personality, trauma or no, and that simply wasn't the type of person that Zuko would lean towards for a romantic relationship due to his own personal upbringing and culture. Aang is a much more gentle and playfully empathetic personality that works with Katara's firm care and sassy disposition.

In the graphic novels, I personally saw a great deal of healing and maturation in Katara in relation to her trauma. She was less mothering towards Aang, too, and I think that had a lot to do with the fact that Aang matured a lot as well and the change in their once platonic relationship to a more romantic-leaning one. Was their relationship perfect? No, they are kids who survived a horrific war and many many trauma-inducing situations. However, once Katara fully leaned away from the mothering habit, we get to see that Aang allows Katara to relax and be more playful. She genuinely was just happy with Aang. He pushed her to be a little more child-like and to have child-like fun even as they grew up into adulthood. Katara helped Aang mature and face a lot of adult burdens that were placed child.

In the end, Katara and Aang always brought out the best in each other. Katara and Zuko didn't have enough time together in ATLA to develop an individual relationship outside of the group. There simply isn't enough time outside of their little side-quest in which Katara and Zuko interact solo- which was definitely NOT Katara's best, and in fact was Katara lashing out aggressively towards people who loved and cared for her and she them. Zuko was also not his 'best' in that time either as he was also being triggered emotionally. In fact, during ATLA, there's way too much negative tension between the two of them that leads to really intense disagreements and emotional outbursts more often than not until Katara begrudgingly accepts Zuko into the group, they don't even positively interact until Ember Island which is what, two weeks? She's not exactly nice when she pretty much demands him to help her hunt down the man that murdered her mother. Zuko is all gung-ho about vengeance too. Of course, they both have a lesson learning moment, but that episode cemented in my brain that Aang is the better partner for Katara than Zuko. Aang, once again the most mature in the Gaang, fight me on this, has a deep, empathetic understanding of the world, he doesn't do a great job trying to explain to Katara, but I think that's because no one in the Gaang understands how Appa is not just an air bison, and Aang never views Appa as an air bison like how everyone else in ATLA do. To everyone else, Appa's an animal, but to Aang and Aang's culture that is deeply offensive, Appa is an individual with emotions and value outside of what he can offer the group in terms of transportation and that's never really explicitly clarified to the audience either (because despite being a kid's cartoon, the creators knew their audience well and did not treat the audience like we are stupid and can in fact infer and read between the lines). If Katara had killed that pathetic worm of a man, it would have absolutely destroyed her as a person. She would not have been able to heal from her trauma and would probably suffer even more trauma and guilt. This side-quest was a plot point to lead up to the big debate of killing Ozai, and not many, in fact I don't know if anyone has talked about that fact. I have no doubt that Zuko has probably killed people, at the very least, he's deeply desensitized to people dying as I think he probably at some point did experience or witness some form of warfare battle before he began chasing Aang down.

Once again, I don't really care if you do ship Katara and Zuko. In fact, I think that's a-okay. But, with the Netflix live action adaptation's take on the Secret Tunnel scene, I've seen a lot of people speculating and even hoping for it to become canon and there have even been some opinions of Kataang that have resurfaced that really rub me the wrong way because it feels like many individuals are just looking at the surface level of ATLA. There's so much nuance to each individual character in terms of culture, societal norms, age and gender, and most importantly, trauma and trauma responses. The creators did an amazing job world building and story telling that a lot of what I put up in my opinion in preference for Kataang over Zutara is information that I inferred from the show and graphic novels due to my personal experience and education in familial relationships and childhood trauma. My thoughts are not the end all be all to this debate, nor do I think they should be, I've seen some really solid opinions in favor of Zutara that I can understand and somewhat agree with. I think a lot of those details and moments that people look to as indicators of romance between Katara and Zuko were remnants of the creators' previous intention, but I think that the change to Aang and Katara as end game was logistically and realistically more accurate. I never thought that Katara and Zuko were meant to be, and I always struggled to put to words as to why until I had pursued my psych studies in college that focused on child development, childhood trauma, and marriage and family counselling. I think that the creators instinctually were seeing the red flags that would have occurred naturally within Zutara and changed course accordingly. There were just a lot of details and nuances that I noticed personally that I wished more people would discuss.

Anyways, thank you for coming to my TedTalk, I'd love to hear some of your opinions about this.

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Two things: Although Karmic Backlash was a hard read for me, it allowed me to acknowledge (and accept) that Marinette was (extremely) far from perfect, and allowed me to remember the other gripes that I had with TKoL (namely Adrien and the class being written and treated too harshly).

The other thing: What was the most bearable salt fic for you?

Sadly, I only can remember the most INtolerable salt fics. The bearable ones slip my memory.

On that note, I can handle salt fics that have either Alya or Adrien shown in a better light while the other is bashed. As long as at least one of them is written true to their character as a flawed human but loyal friend to Marinette, it’s good.

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I read some old rant post about "cn never get punished/called out for his bad behavior while lb always get punished because cn is a$$truc favorite as he keep referring him as perfect" and a post that said "miraculous work both way" as in if mari and adrien gender are swapped it won't change anything except the genre which become typical shounen thing and boy... Those post didn't age well...

Yeah. Like, generally, the show does have a problem with calling out the wrong flaw. Like Adrien always apologizing for not reacting well whenever he feels mistreated or for giving bad advice when he wasn't given full information, but reckless use of Cataclysm around people is only treated seriously when it hit Gabriel (of all people, who actually deserved it). Marinette, before season 5 anyway, also apologized a lot for things she shouldn't yet when it comes to her more serious issues, its often ignored (or as of Derision, excused and blamed on Chloe). I can only guess it's because the writer intent was that those more serious issues weren't (originally) supposed to be treated as issues, just stuff that happens for dramatic or comedic effect.

Perhaps this is an unpopular opinion, but if you ask me, I'd say Marinette is That Guy's true favorite.

Ya don't shaft your faves just so another character can get a new costume and solo the final boss. Marinette's "suffering", as certain salters say, I consider it as a sign of a writer's twisted love. I myself would write my fave OCs going through so much crap because I love them and I want people to root for them or get mad on their behalf because they are having a hard time. It fucking worked for the Saltinette kinnies. Too well. It's a writing strategy where you make them suffer but through it all you make them as sympathetic as possible as the underdog. It's not the same as the way That Guy treats Chloe, who's suffering is treated as karma and is portrayed as unsympathetic as possible - if "torturing" a character you don't like is a thing, Chloe's writing is how it would've looked. It's more comparable to Adrien's sad boi hours, trying to pull at the audience's heart strings. Marinette's is just cranked up to 11. Because he wants people to feel more for her.

And for the post about Miraculous working both ways... Y'know, it was fine in S1. They were mostly treated as equals with Marinette only slightly above Adrien as the leader. Genderbending them would've given an interesting twist to the roles cause now the guy is the brains and the girl is the one protecting him. Genderbends were more popular back in the day for a reason. But now... Yeah... Gender equality buggered off somewhere along the way. The ickiness of it all is more obvious with Marin and Adrienne. Not even the most useless of shounen love interests are treated the way Adrien is.

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Hey everyone! I know a lot of you haven’t heard from me in a while but if you are in the miraculous fandom and been following along a fic by @broadwaycutie16 called “A New Leaf” on AO3, you may have noticed that I was the artist who designed Kagami, the new Ladybug wielder’s superhero outfit, aka Scarlet Queen. And while the description does it some justice, I would like to show you my full art process!

On the left we have the rough sketch, and on the right we have the rough colored version, as I had to color it on my phone since my sketchbook was stolen. Contrast to popular belief Kagami is NOT wearing a kimono, but actually is wearing a Japanese hakama, a garment with loose pant sleeves that are suited better for fighting, and her yo-yo isn’t a traditional yoyo, but an Asian one, which has a better grip and hook for fighting. As for the color scheme, I decided to do a slight call back to Kagami’s akuma form, Riposte, with the color scheme white, red, and black. I know in Chinese culture, white is the color of mourning, but Kagami is Japanese, and white in Japanese culture is the sacred color of the gods and means spiritual purity, something I think Kagami would want to showcase as the new ladybug hero who has taken up the mantle after Ladybug abandoned her post. Also, it’s a common belief that white spotted ladybugs can be seen as extra lucky/blessed.

Unlike wearing just a spandex suit, I have her actual clothes to wear over it, as well as proper shoes, so she has arch support while fighting. (Since Kagami is a warrior, she would think about how best to support her body in a fight, which while in the original concept you can see she has protective bandages wrapped around her wrists and legs.) As for hair, I opted for a rougher styled bob with red streaks, to show a rebellious and creative side she has to hide from her mom, and with the fade of the hair ribbon, I wanted something to make people, if they weren’t focusing enough, to think it’s the original Ladybug, but in reality it’s Scarlet Queen, an Uncanny Valley affect if you will. Plus, while Ladybug’s ribbons decorate her pigtails and give off a childlike look, this ribbon ties the hair out of Kagami’s face, meaning business. It is meant to show that Kagami and Marinette have different priorities while wielding a miraculous, something I believe the story is showcasing flawlessly. And while it may be hard to see, I did add a few gold detailing to the yoyo and part of the upper half of the hakama, which not only showcases regality, but alludes to Kagami’s time as Ryukko.

If you want to see more designs like this, my inbox is always open and I do have an Instagram! It’s (thelittlestar10) on Insta, where I post most of my work. And I would love to thank @broadwaycutie16 again for this wonderful opportunity, and allowing my art to be showcased in their amazing fic, which you should totally read! It’s called “A New Leaf” on AO3, author BroadwayCutie16.

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Hey may I ask why salt fic you are planning to write a sequel to next?

I’m working on something with @somereaderinblue. But I want it to be a surprise.

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Well yeah with looks like those who wouldn’t want him to be the father of their kid?

#handsome #news #meme #news meme

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thanks and I do know that Adrien does mean well and Marinette has not been the best to Luka but honestly while I disagree on the Lila thing (not wanting to discuss that here); I mostly dislike Adrien more as chat noir because what clinched me as him being unprofessional is rather a moment no one actually talks about often; the little clip of him choosing to flirt with ladybug as she is using her yoyo as a shield against the power of a memory erasing akuma

don’t want to have a discussion about our opposing views on Marinette and how Lila was handled here but I wanted to point it out and I actually don’t really blame Adrien for actually stringing alone Marinette at all. I can understand that and Marinette had made mistakes with Luka with her and how she acted with her own crush

good luck with your stories and I can understand if your not into the type of fics that I write my own opposing views

That’s understandable that that moment, which I admit Adrien has no excuse for, would be your trigger. However, I can’t help but remind you that Marinette used her Miraculous in Bubbler to separate Chloe and Adrien at the party, which undoubtedly put her mission at a greater risk bc now she had to waste time recharging instead of facing the akuma.

Still, it’s good to know you can admit that Marinette is flawed instead of insisting that she is justified in everything she does, even when she does the same things that salters claim makes other characters irredeemable.

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just curious but what are the ideas you have for sequels to my fics can I ask please?

If you’re worried I’m gonna be super harsh to Marinette, don’t. I’m just gonna have things happen and people talk to her that make her realize that she’s not as innocent or blameless in things as she (and by extent her fandom) believe she is.

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Calling all Adrien stans! Calling all Marinette salters! Calling all salt fic haters!

For those of you who don’t know, I wrote a sequel to the infamous Karma of Lies fanfic, with the help of a friend, and have decided to start a series where I write sequels to fix certain salt fics, especially those who are harshest to Adrien. But I would like some co-authors. Anyone who is interested, please comment on this post.

SUGGESTIONS

No one sees me but know I’m right here by kellikat23

Rejection AU by various

The Wolves in the Woods by FoxWitchWrites and Rafe_Minsi

Two Letters by CartoonAddict564

The Karma of Lies by CartoonAddict564 (because that one is just so horrible and needs more sequels)

Karma Overbalance by Shadymissionary

New Life and New Friends by Cornholio4

What Goes Around Comes Around by Cornholio4

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Tired of people hating Adrien.

This needs to fucking stop! I've seen some assholes say Adrien is just as bad as Gabriel all because Adrien in the Paris special thought about using the wish. FUCK YOU ADRIEN SALTERS TO THE DEEPEST PITS OF HELL! He misses his mother! The boy is grieving and showing struggles and flaws. And your salting on him for it?! You Adrien salters really fucking piss me off! Like seriously! Your freaks!

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If you want a good palate cleansing for Karma of Lies, I wrote a sequel to it. Check it out:

"If you say Kagami doesn't deserve forgiveness for her actions in protection."

Wait, I don't watch the show anymore, and I'm not going to, but what did kagami exactly do?

Due to her lingering feelings for Adrien and Lilas gaslighting she thought Marinette was a toxic and manipulative person for a short time and got Akumatized.

Then as Riposte, she attacked Marinette and Adrien during their date, once she was cured she realised what a hypocrite she was and broke down crying.

Sadly this is another example of the obsession with punishment and revenge the salt fandom has. Along with the victim blaming.

It's like when Chloe stans say Chloe deserves a redemption and her bullying is OK because her mum is mean, but Adrien is a pathetic doormat because he let Chloe bully people and won't stand up to his father. So he deserves to be assaulted by Lila, lose his miraculous, or end up homeless.

I honestly worry what the person who wrote Karma of lies would do to Kagami if they saw this episode.

Probably have her be homeless and pregnant with no friends, and Tomoe has disowned her.

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This is the one page I will confidently say I am better than canon at (because canon doesn't HAVE THIS YET-!)

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