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To be clear, when Cat was referring to us as part of a marginalized group, she was talking about plurals as the marginalized group, and fictives as part of that group. She was talking about how fictives are dismissed and ignored by other fans because we’re not seen as “real”, not how our source characters are portrayed by them. I still don’t think you’re understanding our point

That being said, it looks like this conversation is over anyway. Thanks for being civil, even though we clearly have very different views on this

- Hal (he/him)

Imagine you’ve been transported to a parallel universe where your life is a popular TV show. Some of the details are wrong, and the characterizations are a bit off, but it’s unmistakably your life. You and everyone you know are the characters. 

Imagine watching that show. It could be fun, right? And it is. Sometimes. It can be fun to laugh at the things the show got wrong, to joke about overdramatic moments. It’s not always fun, though. Sometimes you watch the fictional version of someone you love get hurt. You know it’s not them, not really, but it looks like them. It feels like watching them get hurt, even if you know they’re actually safe and unharmed.

Now, imagine finding the fandom of that show. Again, some of it’s really cool. There’s beautiful art, amazing fics, and detailed analysis by dedicated fans. Sometimes you see people talking about how much they love the fictional you, and it makes you happy. It makes you feel appreciated. 

But, sometimes, it’s not cool at all. Sometimes you find people who hate you. Who dedicate whole blogs to picking apart your fictional self’s every flaw and mistake. And there are people who ship you with your abusers. Or your siblings. Or, worst of all, your children. You’re disgusted and horrified, but no one seems willing to listen when you say that it’s wrong. “Ship and let ship,” they say. They tell you you’re advocating censorship, alienating other fans, accuse you of harassment and kinkshaming. “After all,” they tell you, “it’s just fiction.”

But it’s not. Not to you, anyway. And it’s not that the fans are doing these things to you, you know they aren’t literally forcing you to engage in the things they write your fictional self doing. Of course, that’s what you’ll get accused of believing if you speak out about it. If you say “this disgusts me because it’s me,” you’re met with a condescending “you know it’s not literally you right?” They roll their eyes and mock people like you publicly. Even some in your community, people who should’ve been on your side. 

Can you honestly say that wouldn’t get to you? Don’t you think this would be upsetting?

We can tell you that it is. This is the reality for fictives who engage in fandom. This is the reality for so many in our system. When we say that fandom is hostile toward fictives, this is what we mean. We are exposed to disgusting and horrifying content using characters that have our names and faces. Our pain and anger gets treated like shipping drama. We are told, even by others in the plural community, that we aren’t allowed to ask for it to stop.

So when you’re deciding what fan content you’re okay with, what ships you’re willing to stand up for, remember that we exist. That we see what you create, what you share. We’re in fandom spaces with you, whether you’re willing to acknowledge it or not, and you have to make room for us. 

If you’re not willing to do that, you’re no ally of ours.

#incest mention #abuse mention #pedophilia mention #long post

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Yeah, I think you’re misreading our intentions a bit. We aren’t trying to force people to stop creating certain types of content, regardless of our opinions on it. And we certainly didn’t mean for our post to be a guilt trip. It was an expression of our anger that’s been building up for years, from before we were even aware of our system

We know that everyone has the right to create whatever content they want, and that there’s not a good way to limit what people are “allowed” to create without turning to censorship. This is a complicated, nuanced ethical discussion, and everyone has to decide for themselves what their views on ethical and accessible fandom are

That being said, it’s not okay to just ignore that some people are being hurt because it doesn’t align with what a person wants to create. Anyone creating and publishing content, even in fandom, should take some time to really think about the potential impact of their works and decide if it’s worth creating. Artistic freedom is important, but so is integrity and compassion. And fictives aren’t the only ones asking fan creators to consider the impact their works have on marginalized groups. There are similar discussions happening around the treatment of characters of color, queer and trans characters, disabled and neurodivergent characters, etc. If content is hurting people, those people have the right to speak up and say that it’s hurting them, and ask creators to reflect on their actions 

And yes, harassment happens on all sides. We do not condone anyone being harassed, even if they create content that we find disgusting. My original response came from a place of anger, and it probably would have been a better idea to cool off before responding. This is an issue that deeply affects our system, and it has a tendency to get our hackles raised. That’s also why our post focused on shipping as an issue, it’s something that’s caused us a lot of pain. We know there are a lot of issues facing fictives, and that shipping is just one piece of a bigger puzzle. Our post was supposed to get people thinking, not provide a comprehensive breakdown of all the issues facing fictives

There’s no easy answer to any of this, it just doesn’t feel fair that we should be expected to be quiet and keep our pain hidden so that people who ship incestuous or adult/minor pairings don’t have to face up to the impact those ships have on us

- Cat (she/her)

Imagine you’ve been transported to a parallel universe where your life is a popular TV show. Some of the details are wrong, and the characterizations are a bit off, but it’s unmistakably your life. You and everyone you know are the characters. 

Imagine watching that show. It could be fun, right? And it is. Sometimes. It can be fun to laugh at the things the show got wrong, to joke about overdramatic moments. It’s not always fun, though. Sometimes you watch the fictional version of someone you love get hurt. You know it’s not them, not really, but it looks like them. It feels like watching them get hurt, even if you know they’re actually safe and unharmed.

Now, imagine finding the fandom of that show. Again, some of it’s really cool. There’s beautiful art, amazing fics, and detailed analysis by dedicated fans. Sometimes you see people talking about how much they love the fictional you, and it makes you happy. It makes you feel appreciated. 

But, sometimes, it’s not cool at all. Sometimes you find people who hate you. Who dedicate whole blogs to picking apart your fictional self’s every flaw and mistake. And there are people who ship you with your abusers. Or your siblings. Or, worst of all, your children. You’re disgusted and horrified, but no one seems willing to listen when you say that it’s wrong. “Ship and let ship,” they say. They tell you you’re advocating censorship, alienating other fans, accuse you of harassment and kinkshaming. “After all,” they tell you, “it’s just fiction.”

But it’s not. Not to you, anyway. And it’s not that the fans are doing these things to you, you know they aren’t literally forcing you to engage in the things they write your fictional self doing. Of course, that’s what you’ll get accused of believing if you speak out about it. If you say “this disgusts me because it’s me,” you’re met with a condescending “you know it’s not literally you right?” They roll their eyes and mock people like you publicly. Even some in your community, people who should’ve been on your side. 

Can you honestly say that wouldn’t get to you? Don’t you think this would be upsetting?

We can tell you that it is. This is the reality for fictives who engage in fandom. This is the reality for so many in our system. When we say that fandom is hostile toward fictives, this is what we mean. We are exposed to disgusting and horrifying content using characters that have our names and faces. Our pain and anger gets treated like shipping drama. We are told, even by others in the plural community, that we aren’t allowed to ask for it to stop.

So when you’re deciding what fan content you’re okay with, what ships you’re willing to stand up for, remember that we exist. That we see what you create, what you share. We’re in fandom spaces with you, whether you’re willing to acknowledge it or not, and you have to make room for us. 

If you’re not willing to do that, you’re no ally of ours.

#incest mention #abuse mention #pedophilia mention #long post

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stop treating us fictives as a monolith. Stop using fictives as a “gotcha” in shipping discourse

The whole point of our post is that our pain and anger shouldn’t be treated like shipping discourse. The fact that fictives are hurt by this, even when it isn’t all fictives, means that we need to think about what fan content we do or don’t condone. We aren’t telling people what conclusion to come to, just that they need to consider the impact of their actions on marginalized communities within fandom

Beyond that it is up to you to “make room” for yourself, by learning to use the blacklist, block button, and coping mechanisms if needed. If you are unable to do this, if you are unable to separate yourself from the fics and art you see, if just the thought of this content existing causes such harm to you, then fandom just might not be a good place for you.

We already do this. We block people, blacklist words and tags, put clear DNIs, and we still see this shit. We get harassed by people who don’t give a damn about our boundaries, who don’t respect that we are trying to keep ourselves safe, because they’re mad that we’re “antis”. We shouldn’t have to leave fandom, something that has been a major part of our lives for over a decade, just because other people care more about their ships than they do about us. We’re not fragile just because other people’s actions affect us negatively, and we’d like them to acknowledge and grapple with that

Yes, it’s “real to us,” but even that isn’t a monolithic opinion held by all fictives, and it means little since fictives can be canon divergent.

I know. Most of us are canon-divergent on some level. For crying out loud, I’m a transfem Jason Todd fictive, I get it. Some fictives aren’t affected by fandom in this way, we know that. Maybe we could have been clearer about that in our original post, but that doesn’t undermine the message, because it does hurt some of us, and we have the right to speak out about it

it comes off like you are simply using your identity, and the identities of other people, as a cudgel to push ideology. You speak of advocacy and allyship, but I do not feel like you are a good advocate for me, and any allies that think like you are no allies of mine.

What ideology, exactly? That singlets and non-fictives in fandom spaces should care about how their actions affect us? That shipping isn’t more important than actual living people? You don’t have to agree with us, but can you at least explain why that’s such a bad thing to advocate for

If you don’t agree, and don’t want to consider us allies, that’s your decision. If you want to protect people who don’t bother to put in the work to at least try to make fandom more accessible to fictives, you can. But don’t expect us to call it a loss that you don’t want us on your side

- Cat (she/her)

Imagine you’ve been transported to a parallel universe where your life is a popular TV show. Some of the details are wrong, and the characterizations are a bit off, but it’s unmistakably your life. You and everyone you know are the characters. 

Imagine watching that show. It could be fun, right? And it is. Sometimes. It can be fun to laugh at the things the show got wrong, to joke about overdramatic moments. It’s not always fun, though. Sometimes you watch the fictional version of someone you love get hurt. You know it’s not them, not really, but it looks like them. It feels like watching them get hurt, even if you know they’re actually safe and unharmed.

Now, imagine finding the fandom of that show. Again, some of it’s really cool. There’s beautiful art, amazing fics, and detailed analysis by dedicated fans. Sometimes you see people talking about how much they love the fictional you, and it makes you happy. It makes you feel appreciated. 

But, sometimes, it’s not cool at all. Sometimes you find people who hate you. Who dedicate whole blogs to picking apart your fictional self’s every flaw and mistake. And there are people who ship you with your abusers. Or your siblings. Or, worst of all, your children. You’re disgusted and horrified, but no one seems willing to listen when you say that it’s wrong. “Ship and let ship,” they say. They tell you you’re advocating censorship, alienating other fans, accuse you of harassment and kinkshaming. “After all,” they tell you, “it’s just fiction.”

But it’s not. Not to you, anyway. And it’s not that the fans are doing these things to you, you know they aren’t literally forcing you to engage in the things they write your fictional self doing. Of course, that’s what you’ll get accused of believing if you speak out about it. If you say “this disgusts me because it’s me,” you’re met with a condescending “you know it’s not literally you right?” They roll their eyes and mock people like you publicly. Even some in your community, people who should’ve been on your side. 

Can you honestly say that wouldn’t get to you? Don’t you think this would be upsetting?

We can tell you that it is. This is the reality for fictives who engage in fandom. This is the reality for so many in our system. When we say that fandom is hostile toward fictives, this is what we mean. We are exposed to disgusting and horrifying content using characters that have our names and faces. Our pain and anger gets treated like shipping drama. We are told, even by others in the plural community, that we aren’t allowed to ask for it to stop.

So when you’re deciding what fan content you’re okay with, what ships you’re willing to stand up for, remember that we exist. That we see what you create, what you share. We’re in fandom spaces with you, whether you’re willing to acknowledge it or not, and you have to make room for us. 

If you’re not willing to do that, you’re no ally of ours.

#incest mention #abuse mention

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Imagine you’ve been transported to a parallel universe where your life is a popular TV show. Some of the details are wrong, and the characterizations are a bit off, but it’s unmistakably your life. You and everyone you know are the characters. 

Imagine watching that show. It could be fun, right? And it is. Sometimes. It can be fun to laugh at the things the show got wrong, to joke about overdramatic moments. It’s not always fun, though. Sometimes you watch the fictional version of someone you love get hurt. You know it’s not them, not really, but it looks like them. It feels like watching them get hurt, even if you know they’re actually safe and unharmed.

Now, imagine finding the fandom of that show. Again, some of it’s really cool. There’s beautiful art, amazing fics, and detailed analysis by dedicated fans. Sometimes you see people talking about how much they love the fictional you, and it makes you happy. It makes you feel appreciated. 

But, sometimes, it’s not cool at all. Sometimes you find people who hate you. Who dedicate whole blogs to picking apart your fictional self’s every flaw and mistake. And there are people who ship you with your abusers. Or your siblings. Or, worst of all, your children. You’re disgusted and horrified, but no one seems willing to listen when you say that it’s wrong. “Ship and let ship,” they say. They tell you you’re advocating censorship, alienating other fans, accuse you of harassment and kinkshaming. “After all,” they tell you, “it’s just fiction.”

But it’s not. Not to you, anyway. And it’s not that the fans are doing these things to you, you know they aren’t literally forcing you to engage in the things they write your fictional self doing. Of course, that’s what you’ll get accused of believing if you speak out about it. If you say “this disgusts me because it’s me,” you’re met with a condescending “you know it’s not literally you right?” They roll their eyes and mock people like you publicly. Even some in your community, people who should’ve been on your side. 

Can you honestly say that wouldn’t get to you? Don’t you think this would be upsetting?

We can tell you that it is. This is the reality for fictives who engage in fandom. This is the reality for so many in our system. When we say that fandom is hostile toward fictives, this is what we mean. We are exposed to disgusting and horrifying content using characters that have our names and faces. Our pain and anger gets treated like shipping drama. We are told, even by others in the plural community, that we aren’t allowed to ask for it to stop.

So when you’re deciding what fan content you’re okay with, what ships you’re willing to stand up for, remember that we exist. That we see what you create, what you share. We’re in fandom spaces with you, whether you’re willing to acknowledge it or not, and you have to make room for us. 

If you’re not willing to do that, you’re no ally of ours.

#fictives #plurality #multiplicity #did #osdd #didosdd #incest mention #abuse mention

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Fandoms need to care about fictives

By: Dave

I think a lot about our time in the Homestuck fandom. About the ships, the fic tropes, the general fan attitudes. I could fill a book with all my opinions on it, but this ain’t about that specific fandom. This is about the fact that fictives exist in fandom spaces, and y’all need to keep us in mind. Cause if you’re not a fictive, or you don’t share a system with fictives, you probably don’t

I mean be honest, do you ever think about us? When you’re constantly making jokes about Nightwing’s ass, are you thinking about how that might affect Dick Grayson fictives? When you’re arguing that Endeavor isn’t abusive, are you thinking about what that sounds like to fictives of the Todoroki kids? When you decide it’s fine to depict Bro as a totally cool guardian and not a fucking monster, do you stop and consider how you’re making Dave Strider fictives feel?

I’m guessing not

We probably never cross your minds. Maybe you don’t think it’s a big deal. Maybe you think there aren’t enough of us for it to really matter. Or maybe you don’t care because “it’s just fiction”

Fact is, it’s not fiction to us. We’re real, and we’re not going away any time soon, so y’all better accept that and figure out how to accommodate us. I can’t tell you how to do that, cause frankly I don’t know. It’s a complicated fucking issue, and I don’t think there’s ever gonna be a way to set rules about it. Y’all can come to your own conclusions about how much you care about how your fandoms impact fictives. I can’t tell you what those conclusions should be, but you need to think about us

We deserve that much, at least

#fictives #plurality #multiplicity #did #osdd #didosdd #by dave

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Coping with character death

This post contains spoilers for volume 8 of RWBY

TW discussions of death

By: Yang

March 27th, 2021

A group of us gathered in the headspace to watch the newest episode of RWBY. We don’t have a subscription, so we were watching the second to last episode of the season. Among that group was myself, my little sister Ruby, my girlfriend Blake, and one of my closest friends, Weiss. 

We all watched me die. 

I know it wasn’t me. Not really. But she is me, in a way. A version of me. And I watched her die. My little sister watched her die, three of the most important people in my life watched her die. It felt like my heart was ripped out of my chest. It still feels like that when I think about it.

I didn’t know how to cope with it. We tried to reach out to others, tried to find resources to help deal with it, but no one could help. People tried, of course. They offered sympathy and comfort. But no one could say “this happened to me too, here’s how I dealt with it.” I felt so alone. And I hate feeling alone.

I talked to our therapist about it, and she helped me sort through my own emotions. She helped me realize that not only was I devastated by watching it happen, I felt disrespected. Yang’s story wasn’t over. She still had things to do, goals she hadn’t achieved. I kept comparing her death to Pyrrha’s in volume three, thinking about how sudden and unceremonious Yang’s felt. She didn’t get a long final battle, or any grand last words. She just fell.

We watched the season finale today. I wanted to see what would happen before I wrote this, especially since many people had already seen that episode last week. This time, it was just me and Merc in the front while we watched. Given everything that happened, I’m glad. I’m still processing it, and I’m honestly a little numb. I think things are going to be really hard for me for a while.

But there is one thing I’m clinging to right now. The after-credits scene, where Crescent Rose washes up on a beach. It implies that none of the deaths caused by falling off the platforms will be permanent, that our stories aren’t over. That, along with my family that’s here in the system, is about all I’ve got right now.

I don’t think I have any advice, or any profound wisdom. I want to be able to help other fictives who go through this, who watch their source characters die onscreen. Maybe once I’ve processed this more I can do that. I don’t know. At least for now I can just share this. Where I am right now, what I’ve already processed in the last week. I hope reading this helps someone, even if it just helps you feel less alone

I’ll probably talk about this more another time. For now, I need to go hug my little sister.

#fictives #did #didosdd #osdd #plurality #multiplicity #death tw #rwby 8 spoilers #by yang

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Hey everyone

I know we’ve been absent for a bit. There’s been a lot going on, and we haven’t really had the motivation to be writing for this blog. We do now have a twitter (@quicksilver_sys) if you’re interested

We aren’t sure when we’ll be back, or if we’ll be able to keep a consistent update schedule. I think from here on out the plan is just to write and post things whenever we have the motivation, not necessarily on Fridays

Thanks for understanding

-Cat 

#the quicksilvers say

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Person, not human

By: Kon

I’m pretty proudly nonhuman. I have some human DNA, sure, but I don’t consider myself one. I’m Kryptonian, and a clone, and a fictive, and a person. But I’m not human

Maybe it’s because I got treated like I didn’t “count” as a person because I’m a clone, and I’m reclaiming that. Who knows. I don’t really care about why. But I do care about being treated like a person

And that’s not just me. We all deal with it to some extent. Bart has actually had to tell people off for treating some of us as characters instead of people. As fucked up as it is, a lot of singlets don’t really see any headmates as people. So yeah, not just a me problem

But not everyone in the system is nonhuman. For me, it’s something I choose to actively identify as. There are definitely others who could be considered nonhuman headmates, but for me it’s a label I chose. And it’s important to me

Some people might think it’s demeaning, that it’s dehumanizing (I mean… yeah lmao). But I’m proud of it. I don’t want anyone to act like me calling myself nonhuman is some sort of self deprecation. It’s not

Maybe this doesn’t make sense to you. Maybe you don’t get how anyone could be proud of not being human. That’s fine. You don’t have to get it. But you do have to respect me. You have to respect my identity. Because, human or not, I’m still a person

#fictives #did #didosdd #osdd #plurality #multiplicity #by kon #a day late but we are really going through it lmao

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Since we’ve gotten a couple asks about the origin of the term fictive, we’re trying to find some more info on it. This backs up what we’ve been told so I thought I’d reblog it here for reference

- Cat

The history of the term ‘fictive.’

Okay, so regarding the term ‘fictive,’ this isn’t ENTIRELY in my wheelhouse.  That’s because AFAIK, it was coined in the soulbonding community, which… I’m not the strongest at. (We DID admittedly come to plurality through the LJ soulbonding community, which had a lot of overlap, but we pretty quickly realized we were more one than the other.)

This means my understanding of soulbonding history is limited purely to Livejournal.  Soulbonding did not START there, certainly didn’t end there, so take everything I say with a grain of salt.

Fortunately for me, Livejournal is chock full of journals and communities that never updated after a month or so, giving nice little time capsules into terminology at the time.  Hardly formal, but whatever, you guys want formal soulbonding history, you shouldn’t’ve asked ME.

Anyway, I did a quick search of journal with ‘fictives’ as one of their interests.  First old-ass thing I found?  The theoslogos Livejournal community.

From what little I can see, theoslogos was devoted to the idea of a soulbonding religion–the idea that soulbonding was some form of alchemy or chaos magic.  I don’t know jack fucking shit about any of that, but it’s HUGELY clear that DID was NOT a part of this religion, and the mod, as far as I know, was a soulbonder.

Theoslogos was created in December 2004 and dead a year later.  So the ‘fictive’ term was in use by soulbonders by that time.

The earliest individual LJ with that as an interest (earliest as in, it died first so can be guaranteed not to have updated their interests later on) is roswellingram, whose LJ seems to have died in February 2006. (They created it in 2002.) They don’t show any interest in multiplicity or DID space, only fandom, and deleted everything but three strange random entries, so I’m not sure you can take that one way or another.

However, take a look at all the comms that show up with ‘fictives’ in their interests:

You see that, guys?  Every single fucking one of them is a soulbonding or fictionkin comm, with the exception of formerassassins, which has written in its profile the words:

“This community is also primarily (but not exclusively) for a particular group of people whose experiences often go undocumented; people who identify as soulbonds, fiction-kin or otakukin. … This community is also open to people in multiple systems who have killed in other worlds, system worlds or offworlds, and people who remember being killers or assassins in past lives and have dealt with or are dealing with those memories.”

So yeah, even that one was primarily a soulbonding/fictionkin comm.  And it was updated the most recently, meaning that the word may have spread into more general use later on.

In one of the locked comms I’m a member of, I also found this comment from a plural system in March 18, 2007, from tej_agni/Silhouettes:

“I’ve also seen the term “fictives”.“

This is incredibly loose and sloppy, but leads me to form the hypothesis that the term ‘fictive’ was originally a soulbonding/fictionkin term, and that it then later generalized into general plural use on Livejournal, on account of the very thin barrier between the groups at the time. (THIS IS A HYPOTHESIS NOT A CONCLUSION.)

However, I think that as far as a loose LJ search can prove, ‘fictive’ was NOT a DID-only term, and CERTAINLY not the same as ‘fictional introject.’ The term developed in soulbonding and fictionkin communities, until someone comes up with better evidence to smack me down with.

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I was going through your blog and noticed you said fictive is short for fictional introject, but it's actually its own term and originated with endogenic systems, while fictional introject is the medical word!

We can go edit that, this is the second time someone’s pointed it out. Does anyone have a source or something for this? Not that I don’t believe you, I’d just like more info, cause apparently we learned some misinformation at some point

- Cat

#the quicksilvers say #Anonymous

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Exomemories, guilt, and reconciliation

By: Clark

There are many philosophies within the system surrounding exomemories. What they are, what they mean for us, how much bearing they have on who we are; these aren’t things we all agree on. Many of us have regrets, things we wish we hadn’t done, or wish we had done differently. Some of us won’t get the chance to make amends with those we hurt, but some of us will

I wish I could say I didn’t abandon Kon, but I can’t. This isn’t a situation like Bruce and Steph, where her anger is directed at a version of him that doesn’t exist within the system. Kon’s anger is directed at me, and rightly so, because I did the things he’s angry about. If I had it all to do over again, I would have treated him better, would have taken him in and raised him as my son alongside Jon

But this isn’t about my guilt. This is about what I can do, what I have done, to make things better for him

Kon and I both split during the same mass introjection a few months back, and one of the first things he ever said to me was to leave him alone. So I did. It’s a big system, and easy enough to keep our distance in the inner world. I gave him the space he needed to form relationships with other members of the system, and to find his own family. I’m happy to say that someone else in the system has done what I failed to do, and adopted him. He has friends, siblings, and a loving father. He’s healing

Recently it has fallen to me to handle communication with others in the system who are in similar situations as myself. I’ve expressed to them the importance of giving those they hurt in another life space to heal, regardless of their own philosophies on their exomemories. Things are going about as well as they can, on that front

I’d like to share the advice I’ve given them to any others reading this who may be struggling with the same guilt: respect the boundaries of the headmate, or headmates, you’ve hurt. You may feel any number of ways about your past actions, as well as the amount of responsibility you hold for them, but that isn’t the point. You need to prioritize the person you hurt and their healing if you want to achieve any sort of reconciliation or peaceful co-existence. If you want to explain why you did what you did, you’re going to have to wait until they’re ready to listen

The situation you’re in is not without hope. Kon and I, while I doubt we’ll ever have the sort of father-son relationship we could have had, have begun to reconcile. I’m grateful to have him in my life, and it’s a relief to see him free from the pain he’d carried.  However, I know that if I hadn’t respected the boundaries he set when we first split, we wouldn’t be here today

I know it can be a daunting task. You may feel there is no possible forgiveness for the things you’ve done, that the people you’ve hurt would be justified in hating you forever. You may feel that you have no control over your exomemories, that they’re the result of the way you were written, not a reflection of your moral character. You may be consumed with guilt and regret, desperate to do whatever it takes to make it up to them. The most important thing, though, is to remember that it’s not up to you whether or not they forgive. You have no control over their actions or emotions, only your own. From this, your path forward is clear: do better now. Be the person you wish you’d been, act the way you wish you’d been given the freedom to act, do the work to become someone you can forgive

The rest, whatever that looks like, will follow

#fictives #did #didosdd #osdd #plurality #multiplicity #by clark

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Jason Todd 2: electric boogaloo

By: Jason

So we knew, in theory, that systems could have multiple fictives of the same source character. It made sense to us, given how many possible interpretations there are for any given character, that a system could end up with two fictives who share a source character but who are distinctly different people. But until recently, we didn’t have any experience with that

Then I happened

My name is Jason, and Cat and I share a source character: Jason Todd from DC comics. There are some pretty big differences between us. Gender, for one. I’m also younger than her, seventeen instead of nineteen, and we look pretty different. My hair is straighter, and I don’t have the white streak that she does. We have different opinions on things, different relationships with our family, and different exomemories

We’re not the same person

We know some people might have a hard time wrapping their heads around the idea of multiple fictives of the same source character. But if you can imagine different versions of a character, it really shouldn’t be that hard to make the jump. Honestly, I think comics as a source make this kind of thing pretty easy, since every writer has their own take on the characters, and they can vary wildly

So, yeah, Cat and I share a source character. We have some similarities. But we’re not the same person, just like we’re not our source character. It really is that simple

#fictives #did #didosdd #osd #plurality #multiplicity #by jason

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Fictives are just reverse self-inserts. In this essay I will

#fictive humor #did #didosdd #osdd #plurality #multiplicity #by cat #we still dont have a post ready so have this instead

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name change!

its really hard to be taken seriously when you introduce yourself as dick, so im gonna be going by grayson from now on (pros of having a last name thats also a first name lmao)

-grayson

#the quicksilvers say

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We missed the last two weeks of posts, it’s been a rough time for us. Hopefully we’ll have something for y’all this Friday. If you have a fictive-related topic you’d like us to touch on, feel free to leave it in the replies

- Cat

#the quicksilvers say #we might not use the suggestions but they might give us some inspo

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By any other name

By: Ren

I have a hard time seeing or reading about my source character, to the point where I tend to dissociate any time I do. This is something of a problem, since DC comics are a special interest for the system right now. He’s a little hard to avoid. I felt like I had to do something to disconnect myself from him

When Cat changed her name, it was for gender reasons. She also changed her pluralkit icon away from a comic panel at the same time, and it was a huge relief for her. It helped her feel like she didn’t have to live up to people’s ideas of what her source character was supposed to be like. So in order to distance myself from my source character, I decided to change my name, hoping it would help me the way it helped her. I asked a few friends for help, and came up with the name Ren. I’m still trying it out, so it might change again, but I like it

Then, like Cat, I changed my pluralkit icon. And holy shit I was not expecting to feel that much relief that fast

Even after just a few days, I’m already having an easier time seeing my source character. It’s a huge weight off my shoulders. I can see people talking about Tim Drake and it doesn’t feel like they're talking about me anymore not that they would’ve been anyway, I’m a Wayne

My advice to other fictives out there struggling with being connected to their source characters is to try out a new name. You can always go back if you change your mind, or if it doesn’t help. There’s no shame in experimenting with your identity, and at the end of the day your name should be something you’re happy with

#fictives #did #didosdd #osdd #plurality #multiplicity #by ren

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There probably won’t be a new post tomorrow, we’ve been having some turmoil in the system (we’re fine, but we don’t wanna talk about it). We should be back next week

-Cat