I've seen a fic suggest that Belial just didn't get to sleep very deeply, because then he wouldn't have been able to conceal himself
I just think it's funny to imagine he's so unhinged in the present day because he is severely sleep deprived. Also, I want to roll him into a blanket and let him get some rest. Poor man has been through a lot
Morning Light Hymnus mentions a million lonely nights, so I imagine he at least spent some of those nights awake. Either having meaningless sex and/ or just staring into the void, missing Lucilius
Finally, there's just something poetic to imagine that Belial spent 2000 years alive while Lucilius was essentially asleep
But I think it's valid to go with your favorite reading and do what you think is best/ most interesting! So no judgement on you letting him get his well earned rest. If anything, give him a kissie from me when you tuck him in <3
Aww, thanks anon! I like that fic's idea, too, as it makes sense that Belial would be "sleeping with one eye open" so to speak.
In retrospect, I did word that post as a bit more...angry...than I'd like. ^^; Call it "scrolling through GBF twitter is difficult sometimes" syndrome. You make a lot of good points, like the "million lonely nights without you" line and the comedy of him being unhinged through lack of sleep. ("Let's sleep together~. No, really. Please. PLE--"
I'm definitely taping "But I think it's valid to go with your favorite reading and do what you think is best/ most interesting!" to my forehead, by the way. Because yeah, we all have different interpretations of the source material, and that the source material allows for that is really fun in the long run.
(And I will definitely give him a kiss in your stead! He kisses almost everyone else on the head before bed in my fics, he needs that good-sleep charm too. ;v;)
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Between Existence and Morning Light Hymnus, which is the better love song for Lucilius?
ooooh hard one hard one
i think MLH is the most desperate one in a sense? Existence is a GREAT song in term of love and stuff but it does have kind of a vibe of "i love you and i want you by my side, but if you don't want that, i'll destroy everything, appreciate it" while MLH is really just "i can't live without you" vibe yaknow? Much more codependent.
so i think MLH is the one where the feelings are just. so desperate. the goal is so small in comparaison to Existence.
but personally i love Existence more. esp the excalation from the longing to purely embracing the destructive mood.
honestly Existence is probably one of my fav song from granblue, and while i really like MLH it isn't one of my favs at all.... so i'm biased on that lmao.
Either way Lucilius would hear both song and just send those two a death glare and turn his back, not even worse acknowledging for him. What a lad
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There's something so utterly tragic about Belial being touch starved, so he gorges himself on sex, basically, but it still doesn't fill that void in him
He's eating everything he can, to stick with the metaphor, but he doesn't feel full and continues to starve, so he keeps eating
EXACTLYYY.
i genuinely think it's what's happening tbh. Like. Idk this is how the whole process of sex sounds in Parade's Lust in particular. I don't get the feeling he really feels satiated once he gets what he wants. I feel like he always want it, more and more and more, and then he gets bored, and then it's whatever, and then it's searching for some kind of carnal release but not finding it, and then it's always remembering that you're rotten and hollow and nothing will ever fill this gap, even if you try to distract yourself by anything that could give you pleasure even for a bit.
He's starved, he can't feel full, but the taste in his mouth when he eats momentarily gives him some sort of release... for as long as it's still in his mouth, and then it's gone, and so he seeks it even more.
And to me the tragedy works very well on that regard with everything we know about Belial. Especially adding in how much he made the violence he gets and the violence he gives sexual. I think it's all an extention of that, of desperately seeking any pleasure in some touches, but since all he wants, like in Morning Light Hymnus, is just to hold his beloved's hand, he's not actually getting the "food" he needs.
and it's utterly tragic. But makes sense, doesn't it?
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I agree, especially because Existence is like "What do you want?" meanwhile Morning Light Hymnus is very much "Please take this poor sinner's hand" and is overall more self-centered, so good job Bubs, the most egocentric man in all the skies, for at least asking the object of his affections what he wants to do. Sure, it's still very much "I'm gonna destroy the world anyway, but even if it's just a formality, at least I'm asking if you wanna join me or perish along with it", which, y'know, power move. Beelzebub is aware of other people's boundaries, but at the same time knows what he wants and is going to go for it. Gotta respect the hustle
Yeah pretty much right???
I feel like in MLH Belial puts himself into a submissive stance begging for Lucilius's affection and he puts himself as this humble servent, this poor sinner, who would just be happy would his master look at him his way. he also talks about the lonely nights without him, just how much Lucilius affects him, dead or alive.
but in Existence, while Bubs do want to know what Lucilius would want to do next, and that he wishes he could do it all at Lucilius's side, he's also just... set on his goal. If Lucilius is at his side, it'll be good for him, but if Lucilius is not, well. Won't change that he has another goal first and foremost.
So it's true it translates with Bubs asking for Lucilius's boundaries too in his conquests of it all, and it also shows a lot more... let's say, personhood, to know not to just make yourself miserable when you're not loved back. Which isn't the case for Belial.
the difference between those songs is really that in Existence, Beelzebub wants to destroy the world, and he would be glad if Lucilius was by his side. but in MLH, Belial wants Lucilius at his side, and if he is, they'll have fun destroying the world together.
Which means Lucilius is more important to Belial's goal than for Beelzebub's.
but honestly kudos for Beelzebub to actually manage his crush in a healthy way.
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Sex is the only love language that Belial actually understands sounds like a meme but it also makes way too much sense?
It's the only form of connection he truly knows and associates with love and affection
It's actually really sad if you think of his horniness as not 100% a front to freak people out but also at least a kernel if him seeking for something positive in the only way he knows how
Right??? That's the magic of his characterization, the guy sounds like a meme but the moment you dig into the implications it becomes sad.
I definitely think his horniness isn't just a front, though he uses it as one as well. Again, contradiction is key.
The way i see it is: the one person he always seeked appreciation from is Lucilius, and Lucilius would never have done anything like complimenting him, being affectionate to him, recognizing his work, doing things for him, ect... any sort of showcasing of affection.
But we have seen Lucilius hit Belial. And also, contrary to the rest of those "love language" that are one sided on the action itself (you decide then if you return them or not), if your skin touches someone's, their skin also touches yours.
So taking it this way, if Belial is starved for affection, any type of affection whatsoever, especially coming from Lucilius, wouldn't it make sense that he processed that, considering touch was the only thing he could get from Lucilius, therefore this was the only way he could receive affection?
In Parade's Lust, sex is described as "desperately looking for carnal release". To me it screams that more than anything else, Belial is touch starved. Belial has been deprived of affection and he's only ever received touches, even without an affectionate context, just enough to give him a taste of what he could demand, since the rest isn't something he could get otherwise.
I think it's also telling that in Morning Light Hymnus, all he begs Lucilius for is for Lucilius to hold his hand.
He's desperate for touch. It's the only thing Lucilius would give him, just enough to give him a taste, just enough for him to want more.
Meanwhile Belial's own love language to Lucilius are mixes of act of services and words of appreciation. He knows how to show it to Lucilius, but he has never been on the receiving hand of it with the person that mattered.
Lucifer might have given him words of appreciation but Lucifer comes with so much bagages that it probably just made Belial feel more sick than feeling like he was receiving love. Deprive someone of something for too long and they would no longer recognize the taste when it is given to them.
I think eventually it's why he's so taken aback by Sariel's constant "act of services" type. That's a language Belial is used to give but not used to receive. And I think it's telling that he immediately pushed Sariel away the moment Sariel offered himself fully to Belial on that regard.
So imo it's pretty much this level of being so starved for any type of affection, that all of the rest become foreign, just things he can give, but not that he can receive. But touch being mutual, it's enough to give him a taste and want more, and eventually, the more he wants the one thing he has been allowed to taste, the more he twists it and perverts it because he wants more of what he was given.
And when he didn't have Lucilius anymore, all the rest was too foreign to receive but touch, touch he could do, and he could push on this side of him that was so touch starved he wanted more.
But it wasn't with Lucilius, so i'm sure it felt just hollow enough that therefore he needed to push this desire to touch even further to fill the hollowness that was the absence of love (from his side).
Honestly it's also the reason i think he associates pain to pleasure.
I definitely think that Belial *loves* Sex, it's not just a front he puts on. But i also think it comes with a lot of bagages about being so damn emotionally and touch starved.
And i do believe he also uses it as a way to keep distances with people, to show them this "gross" side of him that indulge into his vices. Isn't it so /disgusting/ how much he's starving for love? Lucilius always found him disgusting for that. I'm sure Belial just sees himself as disgusting for it. But he pushes through because it's all he has.
in his gbvs avatar profile he says he loves Love and hates Love. It's all he knows. It disgusts him. He starves for it. He is never satisfied.
That's how i read it personally. Just a man so starved for affection he ended up desiring the only type of release he could get to the point of pushing it to its extremes.
"sex is his love language" and i say it with all the possible tragedy there is.
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It makes sense that Parade's Lust is the Horny Song, since it's Belial being Belial and that Morning Light Hymnus is the dramatic love ballad because we established that Avatar eats Belial's horny filter and leaves him exposed
So he only really shares the depths of his romantic love when he has no other choice and there's no more horny to hide behind, since he can't keep up the facade with Avatar there
EXACTLYYYY too in pain to be able to keep up the charade of every coping mechanisms he has established to keep himself together. Just the raw desperation of wanting to be Lucilius's one and only.
Ofc it's the pain and everything mostly acting on it but i wonder also how much the fact Avatar was Lucilius's most anticipated creation may also act on Belial being more desperate. Like, "look, i've became the thing you have spent centuries trying to build up. I've taken in the power of your masterpiece. Will you finally pay attention to me?"
the latest moment of desperation that he cannot be loved by Lucilius just by being himself, so maybe, just maybe, if he takes in Lucilius's beloved creation in him, even if it kills him, maybe Lucilius will pay attention to him?
and of course, he doesn't.
It's just sad man.
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do you ever think about the line "its hard to describe the million nights without you" from morning light hymnus?
because one million nights translates to 2739,726 years and knowing belial already spent roughly 2000 years without lucilius already, so more than two thirds of those million nights and further knowing he didnt sleep to avoid getting caught so those 2000 years felt twice as long...
I feel bad for him. :(
how dare you come in my askbox to hurt me with math.
But man yeah D: that does put all this time into perspective. He must have felt so lonely. Like, heartstabbingly lonely.
I could imagine him not sleeping because drifting out to sleep would just have him face the loneliness he could try to push away from his mind when awake.
(honestly wouldn't be surprised he started to have one night stand as a way to get his mind out of it)
it's just :( very sad. Tragic little man.
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