#I just feel like certain things are no brainers yknow?

[burning-bunni]

The harbinger order? is confusing me rant

*Discussion of Leaks, if you don't wanna see it that don't read this*

Okay so I'm sure some folks have seen the leaks that are saying Capitano is #1, Arlecchino is #4, #10 is empty for some reason, and Pierro isn't one of the number Harbingers, he's the director of them which feels like a bit of a weird choice if you ask me, but who knows

Now this makes sense in some parts and confuses me in others but I think mostly what people are trying to make of why the #10 seat is empty is confusing me most and I really don't see eye to eye with a lot of the conclusions people are coming to

Like, oh it's empty because the Traveler will be #10 that's why

But that makes no sense for a number of reasons from the fact that the traveler has beaten Signora who was #8 and while the Harbingers don't seem to be ranked purely based on strength from things that have been implied via voice lines and more, Signora doesn't run any major operation for the Fatui as far as we know like the Northland Bank, House of Heart, or holds any political position of power (once again from what we know)

She likely isn't based purely on strength, but also I bet that likely is a strong reason why she was ranked over someone like Pantalone, though again of course something may be revealed

But yeah if the Traveler could beat Signora with only 3 out of 7 elements, I doubt they'd be ranked under her and also Traveler's connections would be valuable so again #10 for the traveler makes no sense

"Oh there's some plot twist related to it" Yeah there could be, but in what way can we come to that conclusion now currently when there is not a single piece of evidence to prove as much? Plus what plot twist would it even be?

Like saying there will be a plot twist related to it this early when we have nothing to support that notion doesn't give charity and again that is so broad of a conclusion to come to that what would the plot twist even be? Like please elaborate more if you're gonna say that, why do you think that

"For whatever reason, #10 is empty" Honestly, gonna be honest here, if you ask me, I doubt #10 is just empty because no one has filled the role.

I feel like not only would the Fatui agents we've seen would remark on it like they remarked on #6 being empty for hundreds of years following the 3.3 quest, I feel like Scaramouche especially when he was shitting on Tartaglia would also mention that? Like haha look he brings down the Harbingers so much that he doesn't even fill the final slot, he's one below

So I doubt it's just like,, empty because there's been no body in that place before.

"We just don't know#10 yet, we haven't seen them" I doubt there's #10 currently if the order the leakers are talking about is in fact true for a number of reasons because

#1. it's the 11 Harbingers and Pierro does seem to be implied when people say that even if he's the director, like there are 11 (or I guess 9 now), its not the 11 harbingers and their director

#2. We all haven't forgotten the Harbinger Constellations image right? Which only has 11 constellations present and think what you may about what belongs to who, but the teardrop tragedy mask most likely belongs to Pierro given his namesake Pierrot and the teardrop present in his own mask like we see in the Lazzo trailer. While it is mixed with the Tragedy mask as it seems, that teardrop I genuinely would be surprised if it belongs to anyone else

Now, it could, Pierro's presence in this could be solely at the top of the image with that mask, but the thing is that the leakers seem to be emphasizing that we only will see the current harbingers we've seen and Pierro, we will only see those 11 and there isn't another member we will see coming from what Team China has said supposedly

So, yeah the case probably isn't there currently is a #10 and we just haven't met them

If I were to truly believe the leaks that are saying the order is actually this and not what we thought (which admittedly, I am hesitant to believe whole heartedly as it makes sense in certain areas but doesn't in others), then here are the conclusions I think could potentially be the reasons for what's going on with #10

Either, #10 is a retired rank hence why when Tartaglia joined he wasn't given the rank but rather #11, or #10 is in a similar position as Scaramouche with the 3.3 quest and #10 erased at the very least their association with the Fatui, as in erasing from the Irumsul whatever memories and perceptions were had related to their Harbingers title

To explain what I mean when I say retired rank, I want everyone to think of Signora's situation. There likely won't be another #8 or anyone moving up from the rank they currently are at to #8 I would guess due to what happened with Signora. Everyone below her keeps their current rank it doesn't move up like eliminating an option

Almost think like Jersey numbers that have been retired and now nobody can be that number. I think potentially whoever was #10 could have died somehow and out of respect no one ever took on #10 again not even when more candidates for a Harbinger came along

This would explain something like the lack of mentioning of #10 being that it could be a touchy topic, the Fatui avoid speaking of it since they don't wanna be perceived as saying something disrespectful of the late #10, additionally, why would the past death of a Harbinger necessarily be brought up especially in enemy areas like that's info that doesn't need to be discussed y'know?

And as for my other view of it, where #10 erased their existence within the Fatui, I think the only plausible time period for that to happen would be if it happened when Tartaglia had already become a Harbinger but it was before the Traveler started being active

Which could work, we don't know Childe's exact age we only know he's the youngest harbinger and he entered the Fatui initially at 14 (which since they say like "legends say hes been on the battle field since he was 14") I doubt he became a Harbinger at that age, but theoretically from 15-16 to about 2-3 depending years before his current age could be the range I think for when he became a Harbinger and after which #10 erased their association with the Fatui

And the reason I say that is because think of Scara's situation, everyone is already at their set ranks and just because everyone's perception of him was erased, doesn't change the actual events that happened which is why the traveler remembers them. The reason everyone doesn't move up a rank or wasn't appoint as a rank isn't because it was always that empty but because they only now think it was empty all along

Now this point could be where a plot twist happens like what was mentioned, depending on if we get revealed who #10 was and cite like "Oh Scara did the same that's the foreshadowing for how someone else in the Fatui erased and blah blah blah" but like you can't firmly say yet "Oh yeah the #10 reveal is gonna be a plot twist" or "there's gonna be totally a plot twist related to the #10 seat" like

Yeah there's potential for it, there are things set up to where we could come to the conclusion that its the same case for the #10 whether with Scara or Signora, but you can't really use any of that to for sure say there will be a plot twist related to it and things that could be foreshadowed isn't what a plot twist is either so like

I dunno I just don't like the idea of saying for certain when we only have leaks especially to go off of and literally nothing related to specifically the #10 seat in game, that there will be a plot twist related to it

Again, these are all leaks, there are things to support the idea, things could still change, there are things that contradict them a bit and will need further explanation in game to trust

We're just gonna have to see how it pans out in the end, I'm not gonna hop on board anyone's trains other than my own (tho I'm not even 100% confident in it) because I really do disagree with a lot of people's conclusions about this (not about believing the order, just about with #10 mostly and stuff)

#It's not just the fatui antis annoying me mildly with how they talk about this #ngl its mostly fatui fans trying to discuss this that are making me utterly roll my eyes #no hate for anyone really #ToT I feel so mean for saying all of this #I just get very particular about genshin lore and theories #Again I'm not even 100% confident in my own ideas about what's up #I just feel like certain things are no brainers yknow? #genshin #genshin impact #genshin impact lore #genshin lore #genshin theories #genshin leaks #spoilers #fatui harbingers #genshin harbingers #long post

[destinysbounty]

Not sure if this counts, but how do you explain the ninjas ages? How are they teachers but also like 16? I always love hearing people's thoughts on this

For a while now I've been entertaining a headcanon that I think would perfectly explain this in a way that makes sense. Note that this is just a circumstantial theory with no explicit basis in canon, so feel free to take it or leave it as you see fit.

Okay, so. To understand the teacher situation (as well as my theories for why Ninjago's education system is fucked to hell and back), we first have to talk about the Serpentine War for a sec. Bare with me, I promise this will make sense.

This seems like a no-brainer, but a war requires people to actually, yknow, fight in it. Which means large demographics of people have to leave their homes, families, jobs, and communities. Naturally, this forces the ones they've left behind to compensate for the economic deficit caused by their absence. Anyone familiar with American history could tell you that this happened to the US during WWII - as swathes of men shipped off overseas to fight in the war, women back home had to take charge of the economy and participate more actively in the workforce.

I think it goes without saying that this kind of situation probably happened to Ninjago during the Serpentine War. But the thing is, we know women fought in the war stood at the front lines alongside the men - we've seen them. So if that's the case, then who stepped up to help run the economy while Mommy and Daddy were away?

I think you can guess where I'm going with this.

That's right. With so many people leaving to fight in the War (and also dying from Serpentine raids), I don't think it's unreasonable to conclude that some subset of kids and teens had to step up to the plate and take up some of the vacancies their parents had left behind. Obviously I'm not saying all the adults were gone, but it was enough to warrant kids entering the workforce prematurely.

And of course, if kids are getting jobs at younger ages, then I think it's valid to extrapolate that to teacher positions as well.

As you can imagine, this shift created a few new social precedents: 1) expectations for kids, especially teens, to get jobs and become mature at younger ages was normalized; and 2) requirements for certain careers, including education, became much more lenient.

This labor expectation imposed on older kids and teens would actually explain a lot more than just the s3 teacher situation, when you think about it.

Not only are unqualified teens allowed to become teachers, but also undead skeleton warriors from the Underworld (see s1ep4). I'm sorry, but you can't convince me that Kruncha and Nuckal are licensed educators.

The existence of Darkley's, and how it was able to exist for so long without any kind of administrative intervention. The education system is in shambles, and it's because Ninjago's infrastructure never fully recovered from the Serpentine War.

Disparities and gaps in people's historical/world knowledge. No one knows shit about anything. Because again, the education system in in shambles. (If you doubt the validity of this point, let me just remind you I'm from the US. I once met a college student who didn't know what 'north' was.)

The existence of the Paper Boys - how they can devote what seem to be entire workdays to an extremely dangerous job, with minimal adult oversight (if any).

The entirety of Ninjago society seems totally chill with the fact that their saviors are a bunch of kids. To them this isn't cause for concern or even distrust in the ninjas' capability, it's just the norm!

In s15, Lloyd was able to get a job, presumably without a high school diploma or GED of some kind. Or, yknow, any formal education past grade 3 (although we know from supplemental material that he did get some kind of tutoring from the ninja, so this point is debatable).

If some kind of in-universe CPS equivalent exists, then they certainly don't do anything. No one has ever reported or raised issue with Lloyd being homeless, Cole also being homeless for a while, the ninja not being in school, Kai and Nya being parent-free since the ages of ~6 and 3 respectively, and other such things that would ordinarily be cause for alarm.

While there is canon evidence that Kai and Nya received some degree of aid from their community, especially when they were younger, this seems to be completely absent by the time the series begins. Perhaps the community's assistance began to withdraw over time as the siblings faced increasing expectations to become self-sufficient despite still being children. Like, "you're 10 years old now, Kai, it's time for you to start pulling your weight and taking care of the shop by yourself. You need to grow up."

If we approach Ninjago's worldbuilding from this context, suddenly the teacher arc becomes less of a plothole and more...depressing, tbh.

And in a weird way, this interpretation actually fits in nicely with Ninjago's themes of generational trauma. Think about it. Society was damaged by the Serpentine War. And because they never really healed from what happened, the kids of future generations continue to face the normalization of their childhoods gradually being ripped away from them before they're ready. Kinda like kids in a broken home taking on adult responsibilities to cover the slack. Kinda like Cole handling house chores while his father grieved away from home. Kina like Kai and Nya running the shop while their parents were gone.

And everyone is just...used to it. The only times in all 15 seasons that anyone stakes a complaint about this system are in seasons 1-2 when Lloyd was a little child, in season 8 when Harumi was ridiculing the ninja, and in season 15 when Wu refused to lead the Paper Boys into battle.

(I do think it's worth noting that young children are still regarded as kids, of course, as seen with how the ninja were treated when they got de-aged. But this isn't really a refutation of my argument, as much as it is a clue to help us identify society's cutoff for childhood innocence.)

Again, it's more of a circumstantial theory than anything based in fact. So you're free to dispute it as you like. But you have to admit it would explain a lot, wouldn't it?

Anyway, that was...a lot longer than I was expecting it to be. Damn. I'm beginning to think that's gonna be a running theme with these theory posts.

Thanks for the ask! <3

#ninjago #long post #destiny post

[jasonfunderberkerthefrogexists]

CARRY ON COUNTDOWN DAY 25 - CARNIVAL 🎡

today, we’re gonna be doing something different. I’m gonna compile a list of what I think the main 6’s favorite carnival foods and rides are. I dont know if this technically counts, but I say it does and I’m contributing so. Sue me.

Simon Snow - Deep Fried Butter/Hang Gliders

Starting off strong with our boy Simon and you just KNOW he loves carnival food. Fair/Carnival food was made for people like him, but especially all the insane fried combos they have going on in southern America; one of which being fried butter on a stick. You heard me right; just butter stuck on a stick and fried. It. Fucking. Slaps. Especially according to Simon. Now, the hang glider is just kind of another no brainer. He loves to fly and I feel like it would just give him a certain free feeling. However, I don’t think he’d be able to drag Baz on it more than once.

Baz Pitch - Funnel Cake/Ferris Wheel

Okay, funnel cake is objectively one of the best fair foods, and Baz understands that. He’s not usually a fried food kind of guy, but when it comes to funnel cake, I feel like he would give it a pass. Especially if it has extra powdered sugar and jam on top. I also don’t think that Baz is a ride guy, he seems like he wouldn’t be very interested in the bigger rides, but we all know that he is a ROMANTIC. I know he dreams about that perfect kiss at the top of a Ferris wheel, and I see you Baz ❤️

Penelope Bunce - Soft Pretzels/Tilt-A-Whirl

Penelope Bunce is Queen of the carbs and I fucking LOVE HER for that. But I think her favorite would be soft pretzels because they’re just the PERFECT carnival food. I mean, lightweight but also filling, the salt and carbs help with stomach acid issues, and they’re just plain good. Completely solid and logical, the perfect Penny food. Now, that being said, I think that she would love the chaotic energy of the tilt-a-whirl. It would feel like casting spells for her, I think. Just mindless fun and letting your hair down, y’know?

Shepard Love - Nachos/Screamer

Shepard is definitely a loaded nachos guy, the more toppings, the better. He wants his chips SOAKED. He would definitely be down for anything, but by the end of the night, he would have to have a good set of nachos. Honestly, he judges how good a carnival is based on how good or bad their nachos are. And there’s no secret here, Shepard is a THRILL SEEKER. Being in a metal cage and getting spun around a pendulum that was put together 2 hours ago? Sign. Him. Up. He loves riding it, but especially when he has a first-time rider next to him. He’s definitely the type to chat with the riders next to him while going through the craziest shit and you KNOW Penelope loves the energy.

Agatha Wellbelove - Cotton Candy/Carousel

People judge Agatha on her carnival interests, but honestly? She’s so real for that. Cotton candy is popular because it’s really fucking good? Like, it’s sugar. You cannot go wrong with straight sugar. And the texture is so unique and interesting! And of course she would love carousels, she loves horses. They’re also just really pretty and fun. Carousels are a little underrated in my opinion, they’re really great! And I feel like Agatha would prefer milder rides that she can use to spend time with the people she came to the carnival with.

Niamh Brody - Caramel Apples/Games

I feel like Niamh is a caramel apple person. I think she likes the mix of the thick caramel and sharp bite of apple, yknow? That combo is just unbeatable. There is no caramel apple that can be bad. However, I don’t think that Niamh is very into the whole carnival thing. It’s definitely not her scene, and I don’t think she would like rides. However, I do think that she would enjoy getting to play carnival games and try winning stuff for Agatha, who would pretend that her heart wasn’t melting out of her eyes. Niamh is a rigging carney’s worst nightmare.

Alright, well, these are my carnival hot takes for the main cast of the simon snow books! let me know what you think, if you agree with my takes, and if not, let me know why! I’d love to hear what you guys think! Have a good day all ❤️❤️

#simon snow #baz pitch #the simon snow trilogy #carry on countdown #simon snow series #agatha wellbelove #niamh brody #penelope bunce #shepard from omaha #shepard love

[floralovebot]

deebeedee time sorry for the besties who don't like deebeedee!!

my main issue with helia right now is trying to come up with a power and backstory that isn't just artist 2.0 or pinhead 2.0. obviously i want to incorporate his string weapons, and them latching onto survivors and keeping them in place is a no brainer for him since that's usually how he uses them anyway. but that's literally just pinhead's chains yknow? i want to incorporate his birds too since magic wise that's really the only thing he does but everything i think of is too close to what artist does (anti loop and tracker birds). plus, having the strings and the birds is... maybe too much? and doesn't leave a lot of room for melee attacks.

i think the strings themselves could work like artist's flight path power (or any other straight path ranged power) while being shorter in range and function like pinhead's chains. i still really want to add his little origami cranes though and i'm not sure how!! i mean maybe they could be a killer objective instead? OR wait wait i have an idea!! maybe the birds could be a trap sort of deal? like a built-in spies from the shadows, so instead of it being a perk it could be part of his power (with maybe a cooldown plus an option for survivors to destroy the birds). and you'd get a loud noise notif if you're in a certain range of the bird that was startled/destroyed? or destroying could trigger it regardless of the range so survivors have to be careful of whether or not they do it?

ough... i don't know..... i feel like with helia there's both a lot and almost nothing you can do. a lot of his skills in canon are transferable to dbd killer ideas but also work very similarly to already existing killers/perks. like... for fight skills, he has the string glove, the shooty bracelet thingy, martial arts, probably sword and gun skills but that's going to the others. and for hobbies, he has creative things like art, poetry, music, etc, and loving flora. i mean same but yknow? maybe i should think of something with poetry actually? ahh wait no i feel like poetry and art stuff would be great for his add-ons? FUCK DUDE

#maybe it would be better for one of his perks to be bird based instead? #but then i feel like there's not a lot going on for him without that #the string plus the melee? like sure but that's boring yknow? #i want to add his birds so badly bro help :') #helia why must you do this to me man #this isnt edited at all you guys are getting a closeup look at my string of consciousness #im having other issues with other characters but helia dude youre giving me so much trouble youre about to be my least favorite son