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#I want to quit Tumblr because if the userbase is gonna be like this!!!
honestlyvan · 9 months
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Let me be absolutely clear -- the problems with Tumblr will keep getting worse if the disabled minority and the trans people and the people frothing at the mouth at the opportunity to yell at a transphobe, keep @’ing staff and the developers on this site, tell them to kys, because in the meanwhile the transphobes and racists and white supremacists will keep using the actual tools Tumblr provides for blocking and reporting, further poisoning the datasets used for moderation, and encouraging the idea that using the official tools does nothing to basically ensure the only statistically meaningful data available to Automattic is poisoned, poisoned all the way down, poisoned beyond usability.
Hatespeech and bias needs to be reported for it to be considered statstically significant to act on from a developer point of view. Suicide baiting and spamming any of the official means of communication will get you eliminated as a spammer, even if you’re peppering legitimate criticism within your ventpost about how you hate the new thing. You are playing the TE/RFs game.
#van stuff#the biggest reason we don't have an easily accessible 'report hatespeech' button is a) because people misused the old one#and b) because it's not satistically significant enough to be the first thing people want to report#this is like. COMMON fucking knowledge that moderation on Tumblr is 99% automated and extremely cheesable#and you now who are cheesing it? TRANSPHOBES!!!#Like this is not even a 'the developers won't care' kind of thing#this is a 'THE DEVELOPERS NEED HARD DATA TO JUSTIFY MAKING CHANGES'#if the ARE actively malicious then the data contradicting everything they're saying will FORCE changes#and if they mean what they say when they say they value the site for its vibrant culture#then giving them hard data to share with unconvinced people signing off on them having the budget to change things will ONLY help#the whole 'let's yell at staff every time anything happens' is a shibboleth#You're all being fucking exhausting#I want to quit Tumblr because if the userbase is gonna be like this!!!#If ALL I SEE for DAYS ON END is 'staff this' 'staff that'#that's JUST GIVING ME WORSE ANXIETY ABOUT THIS SITE GOING DOWN#'this change is bad for disabled users' YOUR NEEDLESS CONSTANT HOSTILITY AND PANIC RAISING IS ALSO BAD FOR ME A DISABLED USER#WHY DO I HAVE TO BE THE COLLATERAL DAMAGE???#'Oh staff could make so much money if they only listened to feedback' you fuckers DON'T LEAVE FEEDBACK THOUGH#you just @ Staff and think that that's statistically meaningful data they can use#Fuck's sake#And that's not counting all the times staff *did* implement changes we wanted for years... AND YOU ALL STILL COMPLAINED#WE MODDED TAG VIEWING IN FOR YEARS AND NOW WHEN IT'S OFFICIAL YOU FUCKERS DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW TO TURN IT OFF#Fucking EXHAUSTING the lot of you
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ponett · 1 year
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I've only been on newgrounds recently but it seems ok and I haven't seen people say anything bad about it, what's rancid there that I haven't seen yet? Also what is this new cohost site everyone is talking about? I can't tell if it's more like twitter or tumblr, or if it's gonna be like pillowfort where everyone forgets about it eventually
i am 28 years old and used to go on newgrounds every day in middle and high school and i have no desire to do so anymore. you're allowed to use it. many people do. i know the type of Big Name Internet Personality that comes from newgrounds, the kind of people who never quite outgrew their south park phase, and that's not the crowd i like to hang around. i also think that so many nsfw artists moving there after the tumblr porn ban is foolish when everyone knows the userbase of newgrounds is mostly teenage boys. and frankly, as an artist, i hate that it still runs on having people write 1- to 5-star reviews on your submissions. i do not need to see that one drawing of mine got 4.55 stars while another got 4.6. that is meaningless to me
cohost is being pitched as a place for twitter refugees to go right now because of the musk buyout and because most users heard about it via leftist twitter, but it isn't really designed to be a replacement for twitter. it was designed to be a "fourth website" - a low-pressure, slower-paced, more chill site with no algorithm and no ads that you can check from time to time on top of the sites you already use, with a layout inspired mainly by tumblr. it reinforces this vibe by hiding most stats from view. follower counts are hidden like on here, but so are note counts, with the only visible stat being the number of comments on a post so that you can tell if someone added a new one. you aren't encouraged to constantly refresh to watch the numbers go up, there are no trending topics, there's no endless scrolling, you can just post and share what you want to and check up on it at a couple times every day
the staff also understands how people actually use these sites in practice and how certain features shape user behavior, so it cuts down on features that end up being tools for harassment. there are no quote tweets, just tumblr-style reblog comments and replies. people can't @ you randomly to put unhinged shit in your notifications. people can't dig through your likes for dirt. the search feature only lets you search tags, not post body content, so there are no term searchers. there's currently no ask box or DMs. (i enjoy answering tumblr asks, but it'd be insane to deny how much they've been used for harassment throughout the history of this site)
i'm not the most active on there currently, but it's refreshing imo. it's small scale, but that's the point, and it's already developing a culture of its own. for example, they let you put custom css and scripting in your posts (within reason), so people do wacky stuff like making the text go diagonal or putting a playable game of minesweeper in the post. this has been described as a "cambrian explosion of posting" that imo helps elevate it beyond the many attempts at Tumblr 2.0
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hummingbird-hunter · 11 months
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The most stupid part of the whole "staff making changes to the site to be """""more intuitive"""" to new users" is that it's literally not.
See I am a relatively new user. I got tumblr half a year ago. Did it take some time to get used to the ui? Yes, it is quite different from instagram and tiktok; but here's the thing: I switched to tumblr specifically because it's different.
I don't need an algorithm or a live or for you to show me pictures based on the one I opened because if I wanted that I could just open tiktok or instagram.
@staff stop trying to make tumblr into instagram. Instagram is already instagram. Not only the changes will not bring new users — because, once again, people who like tiktok and insta are already using tiktok and insta — but it also makes things actively worse for existing userbase
You're never gonna be instagram. Stop digging your own grave.
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On Twitter
This is revealing an ugly side of me that I don’t like but I am fascinated with the current state of the Musk/Twitter situation. And I am starting to want something out of it, I know that I should not care but if what looks like a more and more feasible situation - Musk is forced to go through with the purchase, Twitter at the company level turns itself into something that nobody wants, Musk himself apparently contributing through his posts to the site’s devaluation (though I doubt that to some extent, I think that might be wishful thinking on the part of those who dislike him), potentially to the point that the company as a whole suffers severely, maybe to the point of dissolution.
I lay in an odd place with Twitter, I think I’ve come to the conclusion that it’s irrelevant most people’s lives (the statistic that only something like 3% of Americans have an account and only some fraction of that uses it on a regular basis really shook me when I first saw it, and now looking at the numbers of influential tweets, meaning likes and retweets has started to confirm this) but also I would love to see it fail entirely. I would love to see it go the way of MySpace, I think it would be culturally beneficial for that to happen, at least to free the people who are addicted and shackled to it, whose entire worlds and lives are there like mine was only a few years ago.
This is twofold. For one, I do personally think it would be a net benefit if Twitter was gone, or at least turned more irrelevant than it is, be that through executive mishandling or a mass logging-off. It has an unhealthy clamp on the brains of so much of its userbase that is hard to deal with. It’s paradoxical on its face, that so many of its users are verbose about disliking it and spend most of their time there complaining not just about what’s put in front of them but about the site’s construction and the site’s broader culture. Tumblr used to be like this but even it isn’t quite so bad anymore.
Many Twitter users talk about Twitter use the way smokers talk about cigarettes. “I know I shouldn’t be on there, I’m glad you aren’t on it anymore” More straightforwardly I heard one of the hosts of my favorite podcast The Allocation Disorder, say “I don’t have it on my phone anymore because I’m addicted to it,” which I appreciate because “addiction” is an accurate descriptor of my relationship with social media back during my time as a heavy user, and also it makes that analogy cleaner. And that’s a journalist, a guy whose livelihood actually does somewhat involve having a presence on Twitter. I admire him for recognizing that, and I am somewhat proud of myself for recognizing it myself and getting off of it a few months ago. Addiction is a heavy word, but I think in this case an accurate one.
Secondly, and this is broader, if Twitter is to be severely damaged in some way here, it would bring into the realm of possibility the failure of one of these awful modern internet companies. It’s the same sort of thing that I feel when I see that ESPN’s cutting costs and bringing upscaled SD cameras to the MLS Eastern Conference Finals, or that Netflix’s growth has ceased. I dislike aspects of what those companies have done to things I care about - Netflix has flattened so much of documentary filmmaking into pop garbage (and, fuck, though I enjoy them, ESPN’s 30 for 30 series turned so formulaic so quickly, you’ll never see a 9.79 or June 17th, 1994 again. You can choose between The Last Dance with diminishingly boring central figures or The Fab Five with a different subject matter.) and since ESPN wanted another channel on St. Louis area cable packages Kansas is gonna play UCF and BYU week in and week out a few years instead of Missouri and Nebraska. They have so much money and they make more by making what I love into something worse for so cheap and it just gets worse and somehow more influential at the same time.
But if one of these, and arguably the one I feel the most disdain for, can fail due to executive mismanagement or gradual erosion of a user-base (and it’s more likely to be the first because the Twitter userbase just will not leave it no matter how much they tell you they hate it), then it might be possible for others to as well. Enron was rigging elections at one point, Pets.com had Super Bowl ads at one point, the New York Cosmos used to sell out Giants Stadium at one point, and they all failed. I do want to believe that these huge mega-monopolies can, too, even though the only thing that I can do is disengage and try to get others to as well.
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femmedesyeuxnoirs · 4 years
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Nobodys gonna read this and I know i keep talking about it but im bored and i just had some kratom. But anyways the last straw this time for deleting twitter app again was some locals sharing very sad tweets defending the 4chan userbase and anthony fantano for some reason.
1. They were basically like “4chan doesnt make people virulent racists!!1” when time and time again its been shown that they do.. the girl local that shared it wasnt even white so i gave her the benefit of the doubt like okay whatever shes probably just uneducated lmfao. The other person was some leftist white from tumblr. It bothered me a lot because 4chan is quite literally THE fanbase for white supremacy and fascism and its crazy to see people deny the obvious. 2. Someone took a screenshot of a youtub comment on the fantano review of the new fiona apple where she criticizes his approach saying that he will never understand women’s art as it pertains to the woman experience/our pain and no matter how he approaches it his opinion on fionas music doesnt matter because he is not a woman. It was kind of a read. But then some local shared a retweet of it that just had the reductive argument of “he gave it a 7/10 what more do you bitches want” basically. It missed the whole point and i thought it was insulting. and i mean i had never gotten misogynist vibes from that person before but i had to unfollow cus that was kind of krinje.. fantano is an ugly pretentious bald man anyway so . 3. Dont even get me started on p*ly*morous twitter. Every freak there thinks theyre enlightened or more woke than the rest of us just because they let their partner fuck other people. Thats literally how they act! Like they think we have “restrictive” boundaries and that monogamy is controlling when most of the time theyre just as bad if not worse people than those 90 day fiance couples. Okay ive had enough of posting for tonight,
tldr i HATE twitter and LOVE to complain
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scriptflorist · 5 years
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i have utterly no clue what your rant post is talking about?? i see nothing wrong with tumblr.
Hey Nonny,
God I wish I was this oblivious, just… it’s such a mess what’s going on. Okay so for anyone who’s missed the complete fuckery that this hellsite unleashed on the 17th I’m gonna do a recap to my best ability.
What you may have heard Nonny is that Tumblr banned basically all nsfw content since the 17th which in and of itself is something I could spend a post discussing we you but I won’t because that’s not what this blog is about and quite frankly I don’t want to raise this debate. So we just have to accept the fact this happened. Now what this was supposed to do theoretically was deal with the porn bots… in all well-intentioned theory, it maybe did, but fact is that it didn’t. Instead what we got is a botched algorithm running an awfully basic script that can’t distinguish raw chicken from a hand from nude bodies from vases and rocks. If it weren’t so sad I’d say the most hilarious example is that staff made a post about the new guidelines and that one got flagged (so not even text posts are safe) and then later staff made another post which included example of allowed nudity (art stuff and the likes) and goodness knows that of course also got flagged. Which… honestly, I would laugh if the matter wasn’t so serious.
Nsfw blogs have been getting flagged, their theme returned to default and their icons pixilated. People who have been posting nsfw to any kind of degree have been shadowbanned, which just means they become unsearchable and unless you already follow them you can’t ever find them now. The problem now is that this affects a lot and I mean to an almost ridiculous degree (I could laugh… I could…) of blogs which are being unjustly flagged. A lot of the content isn’t even nsfw, it’s food, it’s art of clothed people, it’s statues, it’s fossils, it’s lgbt content galore, it’s stupid and frustrating and infuriating. It’s this hellsite trying desperately to convince that one company with the edible logo to let them back into their app store at the cost of their user base. There is the ability to put posts in content appeal if they have been falsely flagged but it’s already disappearing for some people and I saw a post of someone who contacted staff over that only to get the reply that they should appeal their posts which… uuuugghhhh. Not to mention the whole female-presenting-nipples débâcle which I don’t have the energy to get into tbh.
There is a German saying that I’d like to use but it doesn’t have counterpart in English so roughly translated I’d like to say Lord throw us some brains… cause God knows there ain’t any here.
If you haven’t been witnessing this mess first hand it might seem like people are blowing it out of proportion, but here’s the deal: Tumblr doesn’t care. Staff doesn’t act because out of care for its userbase. They’re actively throwing us under the bus in a futile attempt to brand this mess of a code as family friendly so they can attempt to make money off of it. They couldn’t care less who makes it out of this alive, metaphorically speaking. They are making it impossible for people to view their own banned posts. Nazis are easier to find on this platform than porn as of the 17th and that’s the cold hard truth. Needless to say, people are rightfully angry about this.
If you haven’t seen any of it on your dash you can… count yourself incredibly lucky. From what I understand the main culprits next to yahoo and the staff of this hellsite are sesta-fosta of which I understand very little except from being very, very bad. And this has probably not been a very good recap of what’s happened but I’m sick and my body is treating the infection with a good measure of “let’s see who burns first” so I’m not capable of the most coherent strings of thought.
And please everyone, I don’t want a great big argument, this is not a topic up for discussion, this is just the delivery of information because somebody asked.
– Mod Jana
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esselley · 6 years
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Do you have any tips for getting more followers??
Hmmm… there’s a lot of different answers to this question, I’d say. 
It depends on what you’re trying to accomplish with your blog/platform/etc, mostly. Are you a content creator? I’m thinking probably yes, if you’re asking me! I picked up most of my knowledge about how to reach a wider audience as I went along through paying attention to posting patterns and audience engagement, so if you’re serious about it, definitely examine these things for yourself. Most of this is basic “here’s how to increase your reach” stuff, but that’s how you expand your follower count!
Post regularly. This is a big one. When I first started out, I was posting a new chapter or new fic pretty much every weekend – sometimes multiple fics in one week. I have more lulls/longer stretches between posting now than I used to, but I still post pretty often. And you are probably not gonna see huge jumps in follower count/lots of people engaging with your stuff right away. That doesn’t mean you should just throw up your hands in defeat. I posted my first fics in March, and I didn’t really start to see a large increase in follower count until October – when I started doing Kinktober. That’s not a coincidence. 
Tag properly. Tumblr in particular only tracks your post with the first five tags you enter. Double check your spelling. Make sure you are putting the most important, relevant tags first! This way your posts might still show up even for people who don’t follow you, and new people will find you. On AO3, try to keep your tags short and to the point. Don’t write all your thoughts in the tags – that’s what the notes section is for. I tend to skip fics that take up half a page with tags alone, because it’s uninformative and quite annoying!
Link to your platform. This is something I think is especially important on AO3 because otherwise it’s sort of a vacuum in terms of social media engagement – put your blog/twitter/etc in the notes. Bonus points for hyperlinking it (google basic HTML). On other social media sites, include links to other places people can find you, whether it’s in the notes, your description, your About Me, especially if it’s not your main hub. I link to my AO3 on all my social media. 
Clear, concise, attractive posts. You don’t want your post to be too long and rambling, but you also don’t want it to be so short that people skip right over it. Link, title, summary, and maybe a brief excerpt are always good to include. Tags, sometimes, or warnings. AO3 will create a post for you with the “Share” function after you post. Keep it fairly short. If you’re posting a whole fic on Tumblr, use a Read More after a couple of paragraphs. This is like the overly long tags thing – I just skip past most fics if I have to scroll a lot, because it feels inconsiderate to me when people don’t use a cut. Also, it’s likely that less people will reblog your shit if it’s too long, because nobody wants a giant wall of text on their blog. Also likely that people might be reluctant to follow you if you have a lot of endless text posts.
Post at peak times. It’s surprising to me how often people overlook this, or just don’t care. I see a lot of newer creators say stuff like “I finished this fic/art, get it out of my sight” and post at like 3 AM EST when most people are asleep. Then people don’t see it while it’s new, and it gets pushed further and further down on the timeline or feed or whatever, and most people aren’t gonna scroll forever to catch up on what they missed. And then you are sad that this thing you worked so hard on didn’t get seen by anyone. AO3/Tumblr skews to a heavily U.S. userbase, so keep that in mind when considering times when the most people are going to be online. If you’re getting seen by more people, you’re likelier to get more views/shares, and more people interested in your work.
Last thought… I often see people wanting fandom to do a lot for them – they want to get attention or be recognized – without being willing to put in much effort in return. Because this is a hobby, because it’s for fun, because it’s for free, etc.
While fandom definitely is all of those things, you’re also not going to get very far if you don’t bust your ass, unless you are very very lucky/get in at exactly the right time. I count myself really lucky to have the readership I do, but it’s not something I expected when I started out. It didn’t happen overnight, or because I did any specific things. 
There’s no handful of tips that will get you more followers or attract an audience. You just have to be out there, stay positive, and put forth your best effort.
Good luck!
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Yes, this particular instance is apple's fault, not tumblr's.
But are y'all forgetting the fact that tumblr already banned 'adult content' long before the apple crackdown?
Both tumblr and apple are part of a larger (literally systemic) problem with ad-driven content platforms.
This problem is a two-pronged attack on 'adult' (and also relevantly 'adult-adjacent') content creators, which by extension bleeds over to content creators at large:
1. Advertisers (and to a lesser extent child-protection laws) don't consider 'adult content' acceptable anywhere period, and rather than risk upsetting the 'moral guardians' holding the purse strings, sites like tumblr will throw whole demographics of their userbase under the bus.
2. This process is largely automated, because actually hiring people to idk make sure seemingly unrelated tags don't get blacklisted costs money, and not losing money is quite literally the entirety of the reason they care about 'adult content' in the first place.
The latter is the reason this is actually an issue for the vast majority of users who haven't already been driven off the platform with the rest of the 'adult' content creators when tumblr changed their TOS from "go nuts. post nuts." to "you can go somewhere else for that."
What irks me about this whole situation is the seeming insistence that this latest development is what breaks tumblr, rather than the purge that caused so many artists to move to twitter of all places ages ago.
Yes, apple has an abusive stranglehold over any apps that want to maintain a presence on the app store.
No, tumblr is not blameless in this situation either, even if they're not responsible for this particular instance.
But both of these ignore the greater issue at play here, that 'adult' content creators are not safe on any ad-driven platform, and as long as enforcement of content-banning policies is automated, neither is anyone else.
Thanks for coming to my Ted Talk.
A not-so quick aside: There's still a thriving 'adult content'-oriented community on tumblr, but it exists by exploiting the cracks in the aforementioned largely-automated enforcement of tumblr's standing TOS. This is only tangential to my point, but anyone complaining about actual adult content becoming truly inaccessible with this update is either skirting or outright ignoring the rules that have been in place for a while now. Apple may be broadening the definition of 'adult' as far as the app store is concerned, but this problem is much bigger than apple forcing tumblr to actually enforce its 'adult content' ban. No ad-driven content is safe from advertisers' iron grip on the platforms they fund.
Edit: Gonna amend this to add that aside from being beholden to advertisers, payment processors are also part of the problem. I was just reminded of this by the post explaining how apple's app review process works, but awhile back I was up in arms about how PayPal effectively stole all the money raised by an 'adult content' kickstarter because they left it in their PayPal account. The rationalization for this is effectively the same; if 'adult content' is considered bad for business, the companies beholden to them have to play along. Mixed feelings on reducing the issue to "money is all they care about," but again the fact that onlyfans tried to ban 'adult content' speaks volumes as to the power ubiquitous services like advertisers and payment processors have over content creation platforms.
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