#L85A1

[historicalfirearms]

Gulf War Homemade SA80 / L85A1 Front Grip

I went down a bit of a rabbit hole with this video. After spotting an L85A1 with an ad hoc front grip in some footage from the Gulf War I did some digging. There's a rich history of British soldiers fashioning home made foregrips so we take a look at a few of those too.

Check out the accompanying blog here

#Gulf War #SA80 #L85A1 #Front Grip #Foregrip #Operation Granby #History #Military History #Youtube

[identifying-guns-in-posts]

Submission from @onegami:

I don’t know if this is in your arsenal (*wink wonk*), but I would so appreciate if you could identify these little guys

These are a bit blurry (and obviously aren’t real guns) and many of them are in that Generic AR15 Category, so I can’t give definitive answers here, but I will try my best. It’s also hard to squeeze in factoids for ten weapons in one post, so I will probably be pretty brief.

Up top we have some form of DMR conversion kit for an AR15, not entirely sure which or what kind due to image quality and camera angle. Could be a LWRC REPR (chambered in 7.62x51mm NATO). Has a really wonky looking muzzle device at the end; size-wise it makes me think it’s a suppressor, but it has holes in it, so apparently it’s supposed to be an obscenely large muzzle break??

The proportions of the second one and the appearance of the magazine lead me to believe the second one is the Heckler & Koch HK53A3 (chambered in 5.56x45mm NATO), which is just a super-compact form factor version of the HK33, their MP5-esque assault rifle series.

Our third rifle looks to be the Enfield L85A1 (part of SA80 series, chambered in 5.56x45mm NATO), except it’s bizarrely mirrored, with the covered cheek rest side facing the camera, when we should be seeing the ejection port and charging handle in the back. Still, it’s also mounted with a standard issue SUSAT scope.

The fourth is tricky, possibly unintentionally so. The boxy foregrip, wire stock, and barrel and gas tube positioning all seem to suggest it’s an IMI Galil ARM (chambered in 5.56x45mm NATO), however the receiver is very different, almost AR-15 like. On a hunch, I looked up Counter-Strike listings on IMFDB and I think I have an answer: the receiver might be leaning towards the IWI Galil ACE 22 (5.56x45mm) design, like in CS:GO. I’m still not entirely sure, though...

The fifth is, I think, an M4A1 Block II (chambered in 5.56x45mm NATO) judging by the elongated foregrip with full rail systems on all four sides. It’s specifically fitted with an ACOG sight here. Could also be one of those Daniel Defense / Knight’s Armament clones but I’m not too sure and can’t be bothered to parse it down.

This next one, though, is a mystery. Like, the very first thing that totally screws with me is the bizarre thumbhole stock. It looks almost like an M16? Like, you can clearly recognize the carrying handle in there, but... I dunno. I’m passing on this one, it’s driving me insane.

Seventh is a very clear-cut Colt M1921A Thompson (part of the Thompson series, chambered in .45 ACP) with an extended box magazine. Good ol’ classic rattler.

I swear these guns are going to drive me insane. Eighth one immediately had the Benelli M4 Super 90 (part of the M series, chambered in 12-gauge) come to mind because of the pistol grip and stock construction, as well as the design clearly being that of a semi-auto shotgun, but the barrel being longer than the shell tube, and the foregrip seeming to recede into the receiver, are both tripping me up. And of course, yet again, we have no ejection port or charging handle on the right side where it should be...

Finally, we got two easy ones. Penultimate one is an AKM (Avtomat Kalashnikova series, 7.62x39mm) judging by the stock style and what I’m assuming is a stamped receiver... hard to tell given the lack of details and OH MY GODDESS THE RECEIVER IS MIRRORED AGAIN.

Last one is the FN SCAR-L (SCAR series, 5.56x45mm NATO), likely the CQB variant. Easy to tell from the distinctively shaped folding stock. The iron sights are folded down to make way for what appears to be a reflex sight and flip-down magnifier optic.

I’m not sure what the (*wink wonk*) is supposed to suggest. If you’re asking if I’d pick these keychains up... let me know if they do any actual sniper rifles or PDWs.

#submission #gun id #onegami #toy or prop #ar15 pattern #lwrc repr #heckler & koch #hk33 #sa80 #l85a1 #israel military industries #galil #m4a1 #unidentified weapon #colt #thompson smg #benelli #m series shotguns #Avtomat Kalashnikova #akm #fn herstal #fn scar

[senjuushi]

I don't know if this is listed somewhere (and if there is, sorry I am so blind) - is there a list somewhere of what weapon each of the Moderns is?

I don't think I've listed that, actually lsjkhsj

But! I can do that! I think all of these are correct, but some of the original-game ones were a little ambiguous. >.>

. . .

F — FN FNC

Belga — Steyr AUG

Mikhael — MINIMI

Ninety — FN P90

Ghost — HK G11

89 — Howa Type 89

Eins — HK PSG-1

Fal — FN FAL

Kirsch — MP5K PDW

Hokusai — HK HK33E

Love1 — L85A1

Like2 — L86A1 or L85A2

Mauser — Mauser C96

Parume — RK 62

Muku — RK 95 TP

Marks — L96A1

Like Two — L85A2

Herme — HK G3

Arisaka — Arisaka Type 38

Springfield — Springfield 1865

Siegblut — HK G36

Gras — Fusil Modele 1874

Murata — Murata Type 13

Hachikyu — Howa Type 89

Benetta — Beretta 92

Carcanore — Carcano M1891

Squelette — FN SCAR(?)

#Everyone #Info

[cursed-40k-thoughts]

I'm a Brit that knows far too much about guns.

Problems with that bastard's new bolter:

Not enough space for the bolt (component) to move, especially given the shown length for the charging handle

No place for casings to eject. Unless the chargung handle is just glued to the ejection port? If so he's gonna eat some casings

Semi-bullpup side mag? Gonna take a while to rekoad since its intended for right handers and its in his left. Also it can't be shouldered properly because of the mag placement.

Lmao that centre of gravity, no wonder he's pointing it low

It's like if the STEN (or the Sterling), VGO and L85A1 had a threesom. Absolute fuckup. Like fuck sake GW can't even use the "we've never seen a gun beforr" argument anymore because of this wonderful thing called The Internet.

Firstly, love getting gun info from non-Americans. Very novel, very sexy, thank you.

They should know what they're doing, but that would require the 5-8 pub buddies that write the codex lore to accept outside information or criticism for the first time in over twenty years.

Really, they should be making more guns look like the Steyr. The Steyr is a sensible but weirdo-looking gun. Perfect for 40k

[stepperbox]

damn bots with good URLs

L85A1 canon URL and all

[nightbringer24]

One thing does bug me in Hellsing.

As anti-vampire organization, and with the full knowledge of how powerful blessed bullets are against vampires and ghouls, why doesn’t Hellsing have a gigantic stockpile of blessed ammunition, especially when they’re under attack from Millennium?

Like, yes, the Wild Geese are armed with a mix of AK-74s/74Us which means they’re using 5.45x39, and a few AKMs in 7.62x39, they also use the L85A1, a British rifle in 5.56, which means that Hellsing would have a ready stockpile of them to be used and blessed, ready for use against vampires and ghouls.

#ciaran watches hellsing ultimate

[animegadaisukiidesu]

#Upotte!! #ep03 #ep06 #anime #Agu #Ichihachi #Galil #Funko #Shigu #Eru #Ichiroku #FNC #L85A1 #M16A4 #SG550 #Galil AR #AUGA1 #AR18

[animefan-2013]

Awww, look at L85A1 doing a high-five with the cat & that cute Galil getting chocolate from her beloved Armalite AR-18. Also one of the sub-machine guns flipping off a heavy(?) machine gun

#manga #upotte!! #guns #firearms #l85a1 #galil ar #armalite #ar-18 #pkm

[gun-gallery]

Enfield L85A1 - 5.56x45mm

#firearms #guns #rifles #military rifle #bullpup #enfield #l85 #sa80 #l85a1 #bullpups #5.56x45mm #.223 remington #stanag

[historicalfirearms]

L22A2 Carbine

When the SA80 was initially adopted a carbine variant was not offered. The L85A1 rifle was believed to be short enough to be suitable for troops in all roles. Subsequent attempts to create a carbine were made in 1989 and 1994 but neither of these proved successful. 

It became clear over time that troops in specialist roles needed a shorter carbine as a personal defence weapon and the British Army’s Armoured Trials and Development Unit called for the development of a dedicated carbine. The Sterling L2A3 submachine gun had originally fulfilled this role but these had been retired from service by 1994. Heckler & Koch, who also performed the extensive refit of the SA80/L85, developed the L22A2. HK built several thousand using parts from redundant L85A1 rifles, although other sources suggest L86 Light Support Weapons receivers may have been used. 

The SA80 in its current configuration, the L85A2 (source)

Heckler & Koch made only minimal changes to the base weapon, altering the gas plug by lengthening it and reducing its diameter to accommodate the shorter gas system and balance the carbine’s pressure curve. This allows the weapon to cycle reliably. A specifically designed aluminium heat-shield with Picatinny rails was added to the front of the receiver to mount accessories and a forward grip. A folding grip is increasingly is being issued, this makes the carbine even more compact for storage. The L22A2 has no backup sights and is generally fitted with a SUSAT sight.

The weapon is 57cm (22.5 inches) in length with a 33cm (11.2 inch) long barrel and weighs 3.5kg (7.7 lbs) unloaded. One of the ergonomic shortcomings of the SA80 series is that they are difficult to quickly fire from the hip, a feature the L2A3 Sterling it replaced was designed for. The L22A2 is issued to a number of branches of the British military. Armoured vehicle crews with the Royal Armoured Corps and helicopter crews of the Army Air Corps are often equipped with the carbines as are Royal Navy and Royal Marine boarding parties.

Sources:

Images: 1 2 3 4

‘Centrefire automatic carbine - Experimental L22A2′, Royal Armouries, (source)

‘British Enfield SA80 Part 6: Carbines’, ARES, J. Ferguson, (source)

The Last Enfield, S. Raw (2003)

SA80 Assault Rifle, N. Grant (2016)

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#History #Military History #Firearms History #L22A2 #L85A1 #L86 LSW #Heckler & Koch #Sterling SMG #British Army #Bullpup #Carbine #SA80 #L85A2 #gunblr #firearms

[kaismontyr]

#l85a1 #lookit a meme i made

[acecombatmutual]

she;s so fuckigbn smal,

#ilu l85a1 #go sakura beam

[nevermindtheweights]

Sorry, very much so. But I want the irony. Colorado x Akigumo.

Name: Yunagumo (or an effort to make the phrase dreamcloud)

Gender: Female

General appearance: A short girl with long strawberry blonde hair that slows to her knees, often tied but sometimes left flowing. She has bright blue eyes, matching Colorado. She also wears glasses for her far-sighted nature. She favours more formal yet muted attire that gives off a refined military edge. She tends to be sporting a gut though, haven't you seen the cooking these two can make her?

Personality: Fully aware her parents created her via... 'a hard-fuck' to put it bluntly, she has a rather carefree nature to her. Be it good or bad, she takes it with a sort of happy if nihilistic stride. Things happen and that is just how it goes. She doesn't consider herself to control her fate and just does whatever. She can be a hardworking when the mood takes her and akin to Akigumo, she has an artistic streak though is more flighty with it, favouring abstract paintings of her complex feelings towards life, purpose and more.

Special Talents: Generally Impressive Shipgirl performance; strength, power, resolve, durability. Talented Artist.

Who they like better: Akigumo since they spend more time with her over Colorado whose often working. While supportive of her, Yunagumo tends to feel that... she isn't full always welcome around the blonde and her life with Nozomi.

Who they take after more: Akigumo since they stay with her more and they both like to create things.

Personal headcanon: While not exactly eager for death, she has no fear of it.

Face Claim: L85A1 from Girls Frontline.

[peashooter85]

The SA80 --- “A giant scandal of plastic and metal” -Ian McCollum

By the 1970's the British Army was considering to replace the L1A1, the British variant of the FN FAL which served as Britain's standard service arm since 1954.  The L1A1 was chambered for the 7.62 NATO cartridge, however by then most NATO and Western countries had adopted or were adopting the 5.56 NATO cartridge.  In addition the L1A1 was a comparatively large rifle weighing around 10 lbs (4.4 kgs).  Thus in the late 1970's British weapons designers set to work on designing a new, light, and compact rifle chambered for the 5.56 NATO cartridge.  By 1984 their design was introduced as the SA80 or L85A1, a bullpup rifle developed from a number of other bullpup designs dating as far back as the end of World War II.  With the action located in the stock, the weapon was highly compact but did not compromise range and accuracy.  The SA80 was officially adopted in 1985 and was considered to be a futuristic step in British small arms technology because of it's unorthodox design. Little did the British know the nightmare that would ensue in the coming decade.

Soon after adoption complaints arose that the SA80 had some severe reliability issues.  The British Army and British Government addressed these complaints by putting their fingers in their ears and shouting "LA LA LA LA LA! I CAN'T HEAR YOU! LA LA LA LA LA!" Ignoring reports that the SA80 was a flawed weapon, the British Government allowed the rifle to continue in service unaltered.  However, British involvement in the Persian Gulf War in 1990-1991 would reveal the numerous problems of the SA80 as the unforgiving climate of the Mesopotamian deserts would lay a beating on the poor rifles. Problems included but were not limited to... --- Parts breakages causing inoperability of the rifle. --- Jams, failure to feeds, misfires, and various malfunctions. --- Severe susceptibility to dirt, dust, and particulates which caused the rifle to jam. --- The  30 round magazine had to be partially loaded to prevent jams and failure to feeds, usually only 25 or 26 rounds due to faulty springs. --- Any small bump or jostle would activate the magazine release and cause the magazine to fall out. --- The cheap plastic furnishings on the stock would fall off or melt due to the hot sun or exposure to bug repellant. --- Mounted with a scope and full magazine it was roughly about the same weight as an FAL --- Cleaning, maintenance, or field stripping was exceptionally difficult. --- During firing, the rifle would often eject empty casings into the soldier's face. 

After the Persian Gulf War the British Government continued to ignore reports that the SA80 was a flawed weapon.  However by then the weapon had received a nasty reputation as a piece of junk in the ranks of the British Army. In 1992 a report from the Ministry of Defense was leaked to the public reporting 50 faults of the SA80.  At first the government passed off the report as fake, then claimed that the report wasn't an official report, then admitted that the report was genuine.  The result was a national scandal as it was revealed to the public that British soldiers were being forced to use substandard equipment.  However the government continued to stonewall and did nothing about the problem.  It wasn't until the year 2000 that action was taken to fix the SA80's problems.  Around 200,000 rifles were taken out of service and sent to the British owned German arms company Heckler & Koch where they were completely redesigned and rebuilt lock stock and barrel at a price of £400 each.  The new model was called the L85A2.

At this point the current model is the L85A3, a further improvement of the L85A2. In addition there are various models of carbines and squad automatic weapons. Apparently now the SA80 is a reliable and quality rifle.  I don't know if this is true or not, if there are any current or former British soldiers or marines who would like to opine, please do.  Regardless the SA80's history has cast a permanent negative reputation on the weapon system.  Britain has always had a reputation for producing fine quality small arms.  The Enfield P53 musket was the 2nd most commonly used weapon in the American Civil War.  The Lee Enfield was used through two World Wars, Korea, adopted by dozens of countries, and is still found on battlefields all over the world to this day. Nobody wants the SA80. Outside of the UK, the SA80 is only used by a few African countries who received them as military aid, and beggars can't be choosers.  Apparently Jamaica has adopted the rifle, cause they be jammin'.

#history #guns #firearms #british military #weapons

[senjuushi]

I was just wondering what the names of the actual guns that the boys are, cause I know you mentioned that Fal's gun is the FN FAL and I'd like to know what the others are too but I don't know where to even start looking. >.<

I can absolutely supply this information! o3o I might be wrong on these, but this is what I’ve got!

F -- FN FNC

Belga -- Steyr Aug A2

Mikhael -- MINIMI

Ninety-- FN P90

Ghost -- HK G11

89 -- Howa Type 89

Eins -- HK PSG1

Fal -- FN FAL

Kirsch -- MP5K PDW

Hokusai -- HK HK33E

Love1 -- L85A1 LSW

Like2 -- L86A1 LSW

Mauser -- Mauser C96

Parume -- RK 62

Muku -- RK 95 TP

#Info

[khlebs]

Enfield L85A1 - 8×22mm Nambu

#gunblr #guns #rifle