#Surtr fgo

[seafoamtor]

Some Surtr (FGO) appreciation

1. I loove how detached Surtr is from the whole ‘humanity as a species’ concept.

Ophelia reacts like this is a cheeky comment, but he genuinely cannot tell human’s apart by their faces alone! It’s the whole reason he categorizes Mash as ‘Shield Girl’, he needs some other factors to differentiate them....Mash with her shield, Napoleon with his annoying-ass comments, Ophelia by her eye and their contract...And it makes perfect sense! He never met a human in his life before Ophelia (spent his time guarding Muspelheim with only the Sons of Muspel as its inhabitants, no-one ever visits or leaves, in no small part maybe bc of Surtr sitting guard) much less multiple ones, and only really ‘meets’ other people at Ragnarok when it’s killing time, but even then it’s only Jötnar and the Gods and at the most dead souls but he’s not really involved with fighting them (his one singled out opponent is Freyr, a god, before he starts flinging fire everywhere). Imagine spending your life as a human observing birds and deer and stuff and hunting them a bit, only to suddenly be dropped into the body of an ant and being asked to differentiate between other ants. The dialogue may feel a bit awkward, but you see it further in one of his other conversations with Ophelia:

(And while it’s implied in the logical conjecture, I feel other translations make it a bit more clear that he’s referring to Sigurd’s memories specifically here) Sure, the dialogue itself it probably meant to make a point about ‘oh, women + feelings stereotypes’ but given Surtr’s character as a whole it just comes across as someone who has no familiarity with humans as a species and human society making a really basic observation...Like: analyizing Ophelia’s expression + comparing it to others in the Sigurd database + matches found, categorized as ‘women’ = Ophelia categorized as ‘woman’ -> showing off his ‘I recognize that reference’ game.  (Unrelated, but while my own Japanese skills are not up to the task, if you compare the official translation with some other fantranslations released before it, you can’t help but notice that there are some instances where it seemingly ramped up the whole ‘remember how Ophelia is a woman? Well, so do all the characters and will not talk about anything else’ a bit, yes, also in the case of Surtr)

Also it’s kind of adorable sometimes, okay? Especially when it makes him seem a bit gullible.

 2. He’s really perceptive, not just a meathead! I’m sure that you’re probably at least in part supposed to put it down to the whole ‘higher existence so automatically knowing and perceiving more about the world’ trend but don’t care didn’t ask. Immediately recognizing not only Mash but also Holmes as something mixed, sneakily mindcontrolling/influencing Ophelia from the beginning (much as I may disagree with the narrative choice itself), noticing the boost from the Counter-Force to Napoleon, trying his best to parse out Ophelia’s emotional state and insecurities despite having the emotional finesse of a teaspoon...

3. He’s an equal opportunity hater.

Is he wrong? Given just how closely tied together Gods and Humanity are, and how often the conflict is about how the Gods are too controlling and humanity has outgrown them etc., it’s kind of refreshing to have a character that just goes ‘actually both of you suck’.

4. Supportive King!

‘Did you already know how awesome Ophelia’s mystic eye ist?’; [Ophelia panicking] ‘How is it possible for her to do that?!’ [Surtr immediately explaining how it’s possible for her to do that]

5. Apart from his endgoal (and the whole ‘actually he was influencing her from the start!’ bc that’s stupid) Surtr and Ophelia actually do have a fairly functional working relationship? Yes, Ophelia makes it a point remind him that it’s pure business and not to try and get too chummy (which is one of her primary issues in general, the whole mage-sona vs what she actually wants to do and be), and ‘maybe please don’t just opt for killing everyone?’, but aside from that, fairly often they are in accord? Ophelia tries so hard to act as the restraining influence but as soon as someone annoys her she’s immediately all in for murder, fuck what Skadi said actually:

I mean, this is basically Ophelia wink-wink-nudge-nudging Surtr ‘Hey, don’t kill them. Accidents can always happen, but make sure to at least not kill Mash.’ When Surtr does come to her with genuine complaints and questions about their task she does readily give an explanation; she is ready to acknowledge when she does have to loosen the reins a bit (ie releasing his limiters) and as much as the whole knight-tshtick may be a bit of play-acting for Surtr, he does take the act serious and reigns himself in whenever Ophelia reprimands him (and tries to make up for it, in his way, when he apparently messed up a bit).

6. His outdated mode of speech (sometimes a bit lost in translation :(...). Go old man, give us that ‘Alas’! Also just some of the stuff he says in general, big fan of when he does that.

While it does feel a bit more inconsistent in the official translation there’s still more than enough left to make the point, I feel. Anyway, very much reminded me of this post:

7. The violence of course. Both how he conceptualizes himself as a being of pure destruction (and isn’t even wrong about that, per se) and how in part flowing from that he’s just ready to start killing at the drop of a hat. Very iconic of him to just cut Holmes in half, bit of a flop that he ultimately wasn’t allowed to kill anyone though :( Give him his enrichment :( Tfw your love language is murder but your mage won’t let you kill...

#fgo #Surtr fgo #and so much more but I didn't want to make the post too long...

[aitadraws]

Girl he needs a leash.

#fgo #fgo surtr #ophelia #fgo sigurd #fate grand order #fate #fanart #my art

[sawbeaver]

My knight.

#fanart #fate #fgo #fate series #type moon #lb2 #ophelia phamrsolone #surtr #fgo surtr

[thegoodthegrandandtheugly]

#fate series #fate grand order #fgo #david #surtr #sfw

[boooochi]

Ice Cream Queens

#surtr #fgo #fate grand order #arknights #scathach skadi

[empty-dream]

This Lostbelt has no future. No tomorrow. Though it may be peaceful, free of conflict and evil… It will never be any more than that. It has no power to change, to develop. My love is not enough. Spring will never come. Life will never flourish. But now, my power should suffice to bring hope to my land. So I withdraw my love and instead offer you death.

Fate/Grand Order • Cosmos in the Lostbelt : Eternal Icy Fire Century, Götterdämmerung

#fate grand order #cosmos in the lostbelt #fgo spoilers #ophelia phamrsolone #sigurd #surtr #gerda #scathach skadi #ortlinde #hildr #thrud #brynhildr #sitonai #napoleon bonaparte #type moon #typemoonedit #myedit #mypic #imo LB2 has the prettiest photoset in Road to LB7 campaign #this portrait format is quite challenging lmao #it was hard to pick the quote as the caption #i had 2 candidates and both speak about the same thing #but i wanted to emphasizes about both love and hope #since those are what this LB is about

[innovatorbunny]

the joke is that neither of them have lore

#arknights #surtr #fgo #fate grand order #proto merlin #lady avalon #milky's musings

[np5enkidu]

A rare Surtr from Miwa Shirou's newest fanbook Romancia03

#honestly the whole doujinshi is amazing i'm so glad i bought it #anywayz. surtr stans here you go #fgo surtr #fgo sigurd #fgo #fate/grand order

[bluespiritfire]

Finished Lostbelt 2 and idk...there's something about the twisted dynamic between Ophelia and Surtr that I love in a tragic, painful sort of way.

#FGO #she stared into the void and the void stared back with a love unknown #I didn't like her at first but between her dynamic with Napoleon and Surtr she really made me feel for her #I still love Lostbelt 1 more but that's because I have a huge soft spot for Salieri Ivan and Anastasia #and Patxi made me bawl my god damn eyes out #but yeah Ophelia was really growing on me and I wish we got more of her after LB 2 #Napoleon was the MVP and I want to pull him soon 😭 #and ORTLINDEEEEE I knew I liked her from the start #Skadi was not as terrifying as I expected a god to be but I expected that since she was doing her pacifist run #I don't really get why Sitonai was even there tbh #BRYNHILD AND SIGURD WERE AMAZING #Love them sm #Apologising profusely to my Sigurd for not having any kind of Brynhild in my Chaldea 😔 she eluded me twice for summer variant #but yeah new fgo ships in Surtr and Ophelia and Ophelia and Napoleon #wasn't expecting to come out of the Lostbelt with ships

[dogmatic164]

Me going insane about parallels between Tsukihime and Lostbelt 2

Okay, so straight to the point Surtr and Ophelia's relationship is meant to parallel and be the reverse of Shiki and Arcuied's relationship. So for the superficial stuff, both situations involve literally two individuals who form a connection due to a mystic eye that causes one of them to change their outlook in a profound manner and fall madly in love with the other. Shiki and Arcuied met due to Shiki's own instincts taking over, which led to him using his mystic eyes to cut Arc. This impact on Arc was so profound that it basically changed her personality. For Surtr and Ophelia, due to Ophelia's mystic eyes, she met lostbelt Surtr before any of the events of the lostbelt. That moment was such an impossibility that it became so profound for Surtr that he desperately wanted to do anything for her as thanks.

But since we're past the superficial stuff, this is where all the differences lie. Because while these events, while similar, only truly apply traits and abilities, these characters are not who they are. Shiki isn't Ophelia, and Surtr isn't Arcueid. But for the two humans, they do have different mystic eyes, which reflect their own actions. For shiki from his own understanding of life and its simple fragility he wants to always attemping to never be passive even in situation where even his own memories are a lie to him and abandoned any connection he had with his former family because of what he vaules. Ophelia, on the other hand, is so indecisive because her family's training stole her agency. In a twist of fate, a person can force another to follow a certain path with her mystic eyes, said person have no decisiveness of their own. Other parallels are what they value, how they treat their partner's predestined path, and how they deal with the mistake they made.

For Arcueid and Surtr, while they do have parallels, like them being both super weapons made by the world using (supposedly) blueprints from an alien species, The most important part is how much that moment affected them. While I would hesitate to use the remake in this thesis (even though it's like the whole reason why I started writing this idea), it's better to show a clear example of the difference between the two. To put it in layman's terms, as a machine, Arcuied is way too broken, and Surtr isn't broken enough. With Arc in the Ciel route, she was forcing herself to become human, which is clearly not good for her; she was basically going against her own functions. But with Surtr, despite wanting to do anything for Ophelia, it just kept on going back to burning the world at the end. He was still the ending of Ragnarok and could never truly stray away from that, even till the end.

Anyway, there's more to get into in Lostbelt 2, like how Napoleon is reverse Ciel or how hilarous it is that Brynhild technically takes on the role of Roa, and how her relationship with Sigurd is reverse reverse Shiki and Arc. Or how Ophelia's endgame is becoming Shiki technically. Or-

#FGO #Tuskihime #lostbelt 2 #Surtr #Arcueid Brunestud #Ophelia Phamrsolone #Shiki Tohno #nasuvere #Type Moon

[seafoamtor]

Sigurd’s battle animations honestly feel more fitting for Surtr (as whom his sprite was kind of introduced in story) than himself. Yes, FGO decided to retroactively make it his ‘thing’ to punch his sword and whatnot, but it’s so much more fitting for Surtr, whose monstrous strength is frequently remarked upon (and distinct from Sigurd’s dragonthing) to embody the ‘guns are for pussies I just throw bullets real fast’ meme as a fighting style. Also. Literally kicking the crystalization of Sigurd’s legend and heroic pride with his feet just feels very right for Surtr and another sign (not that the story tries to be subtle about it) that he’s not Sigurd, but rather someone who holds little regard for him and the whole heroic spirit thing in general.

#fgo #surtr fgo #sigurd fgo

[sylhea-raemi]

Someone spoke to Surtr and dared him to hit us just as when I was about to take a selfie so i just.. took em as it happen

#i wanna tag this injust thought it's funny #im easily amazed by everything lmffaaaoooo #fgo #fate grand order #ritsuka fujimaru #gudako #gudao #surtr (fgo)

[sawbeaver]

惡龍摘出: Extraction Fáfnir

#fanart #fate #fgo #fate series #type moon #ophelia phamrsolone #lb2 #Götterdämmerung #surtr

[swamplevel]

Also I think I'm about halfway through SIN in my Lostbelt catchup quest, and I'm enjoying it. I'm slightly baffled by the hard right turn into making Spartacus an actual character and not a weird joke (did this happen somewhere before this?) but Emperor Qin has been completely delightful as an antagonist.

#i didnt post about lb2 because i didnt like it at all lol. sorry #everything that wasnt ophelia and surtr fell completely flat for me #fgo tag

[lostbelt-arc-my-beloved]

yo hold the fuck up I wasn't beefing with Sigurd i was beefing with the FUCKIN THE KING OF GAINTS WHO WAS HIDING IN THE FUCKING SUN

I would like to take back all rude things I have about Sigurd.

#fate #fgo #cosmos in the lostbelt #fgo lostbelt #fate go #fate grand order #lostbelt 2 #fate series #lb2 #Sigurd #Surtr #wtf is going on #like wtf #praise the sun

[cutegirl920]

Ivan died in fear,

Before we reaped our rewards,

Surtr mockingly laughs.

#fate grand order #tunguska #fgo na #raids #ivan the terrible #surtr #haiku