#Sylvanas Book Spoilers

[swampgallows]

im now listening to patty mattson read the sylvanas book (much like adding milk to powdered milk for more milk per milk) and doubled over laughing when a quarter of the way through the book we’re reminded this is all being narrated to anduin, locked in chains in the maw, who prompts an interlude to straight up ask “why are you telling me this”

#world of warcraft / #sylvanas book spoilers #wow spoilers #sylvanas book

[kimaisalloren]

When ur therapist asks for rec time and parole

#sylvanas fanart #sylvanas art #sylvanas #sylvanas windrunner #king anduin #anduin wrynn #wow fanart #sylvanas book #Sylvanas book spoilers #I’m so sorry #this is so stupid but god like the book is needlessly funny #she’s literally using Anduin for free therapy #like she comes in and he’s been tortured mentally and starved and the worst part of his day is when she just #anyways so here’s another story how my mom yelled at me :/ #it’s so funny #SHES LIKE #well it’s not like you can go anywhere so here’s how Nathanos and I made out #and anduins like maybe if I join the jailer this will fucking stop #no #I must be strong

[ana-mineola]

I just finished Sylvanas’s book (yes it took me time) and I needed to write a small recap so I don’t have to open it ever again.

« So you thought Sylvanas was a cunning, grey strategist ? Well, no ! She was nothing but a stupid little prick. She’ve always been a stupid little prick. She became even more stupid after regaining her free will, when her favorite hobby was to ally with evil basterds so she can make surprised pikachu face when they betray her.

Every unfair, cruel act she did was because she thinks the world is cruel and unfair so when some unknown sick whore from the afterlife told her « Come, we’ll make the world less cruel and unfair but for that you must do cruel and unfair things but don’t worry we’ll erase everything after so make yourself comfortable sister. Also I’m the one responsable for all the cruel and unfair things that happened to you » Sylvanas was like « Okay but I will never serve :D » and she did all the most cruel and unfair things she could imagine and she was looking at those things thinking « How can the world be so cruel and unfair :( »

But she’s good now she’s not cruel and stupid any longer she can even feel remorse can you imagine. Please love her »

Dear Blizzard, can you please leave this poor elf alone now so we can live our WoW lives without being filled with unsatisfied hatred. Thanks

#sylvanas book #spoiler

[sunstridering]

What bothers me about the first look of the expansion:

We really didn't need bfa, sl and df in their current lore writing?

The trailer looked like what Battle for Azeroth should have been: Void/Shadow and Old God, and later titan focused.

Shadowlands was a mess of writing and it really didn't serve purpose beyond lets turn Anduin into Arthas 2.0! When void/shadow Anduin could have done a better job (whole "Anduin is just like Arthas" is surface level character analysis and i hate it) (I think people have written enough essays about how Sylvanas was done dirty so I don't need to add anything there)

Dragonflight has been fun "Advnture" expansion but the end content just sucks? Murozon deserved entire patch and not a one cinematic at the end of the mega dungeon (that gave me healer ptsd) Chromie is more annoying than Lady Moonberry, if her visage as a human or an elf - she would be more serious character and not acting like a literal 5 years old (and blizz, if you actually cared about her being trans, you would have recasted a transwoman. daily reminder that Chromie started off as a trans joke) Wrathion's character arch was thrown out of the window in favour of lifting up Ebyssian (who shouldn't be the aspect) Alextrasza feels like a massive hypocrite with a "main character" protection barrier, she can do no wrong and if she does anything wrong, it was someone else's fault (new book spoilers yikes) What was the point of bringing Ysera back? Oh right they wanted to make her the Aspect again, but people got angry about it and changed to Merithra. What's the point of leaving Malfurion in Ardenweald when the Emerald Dream is in danger? Ysera serves no purpose and bringing her back to Azeroth cheapens her deaht/rebirth + she said that she no longer feels the connection to the Dream that she once had, so why she doesn't go back to Ardenweald and get the strongest druid that Azeroth has to protect his home? Vyra could have been interesting if they made her morally grey rather than just side with the "good guys" Fyrakk is a funny little gremlin, but i can't take him seriously as the final boss of the expansion. Iridikron reminds me a lot of jailer, but with writing, so i hope we get to see him again.

So what's the point of these 3 expansions when nothing we did really means anything in the long run? You can still see the effect of other expansions in the lore, but these 3 are just weird filler expansions that should be thrown out in the trash.

#gremlin cave #i'm saying this as someone who played entire sl and df #wow is important to me so this makes me sad

[braxiatel]

Sylvanas after meeting Nathanos:

#she keeps being like ‘he has a nice personality :) super ugly tho’ it’s honestly funny #Sylvanas on her internalised cringe culture phase #Sylvanas Novel Spoilers #Sylvanas Book Spoilers #Sylvanas Spoilers #World of Warcraft #the void collection

[iceafterdeath]

So basically Sylvanas and Anduin play "whose childhood was shittier" and omg it's so immature and stupid.

One of these days I gotta post my prediction because I'm pretty sure they'll butcher Sylvanas in horrible ways and yeah, I choose that word deliberately.

#wow spoilers #sylvanas book spoilers #a 15 years old would have written it better

[cheeziswin]

Seeing a lot of people ripping on Anduin for being a dick to Sylvanas in this book.

You know, the person who betrayed his father which lead to his death, committed genocide, kidnapped and imprisoned him and put him through torture, and is actively in the process of manipulating him and threatening to force him if he doesn't comply. With a corrupted version of his own fathers sword, no less.

So yeah I guess fuck Anduin for not being the perfect therapist for her right in this moment. What a dick, he's not groveling and sympathetic towards her. Jesus.

#sylvanas spoilers #anduin wrynn #sylvanas windrunner #Warcraft #wow spoilers #shadowlands spoilers #spoilers #tagging characters for 'discussion' purposes lol #for the record i dont like the way anduin acts in this book either #but getting mad at him for not playing proper therapist for SYLVANAS of all people? buddy

[poisonheart]

Did Christie Golden honestly write Anduin, a privileged prince, to tell Sylvanas she had a better life than him at the age of 10 or whatever? LMFAO.

She is really writing Pain Olympics, but what the fuck could I expect from Blizzard and their agenda?

I’m not even getting into the rest of the stupidity.

#sylvanas windrunner #anduin wrynn #spoilers #that awful book by the writer I pray gets hired elsewhere

[characterrevolvingdoors]

-incoherent screeching-

ANDUIN'S WITH SYLVANAS IN THE MAW!

#sylduin #the ship has sailed! #9.2 spoilers #world of warcraft #warcraft #shadowlands #sylvanas windrunner #anduin wrynn #sylvanas book

[artoriyasart]

Sylvanas: everything here is beautiful.... except you...I like that.

Nathanos:....uh... thanks?

I thought this was funny.

#sylvanas windrunner #nathanos #spoilers #Sylvanas book

[renaultmograine]

Like 60 words in and Sylvanas is already ridiculous.

#i will properly hide spoilers #sylvanas book

[swampgallows]

crispy golden notes

1. weirdly interjects mentions of people eating/drinking and a list of what is being served. multiple times it feels superfluous especially because what’s described is usually just water, cheese, and bread. it doesnt add anything to the scenes beyond reminding the audience that the characters are mortal and need to eat sometimes (which can be a valuable sentiment to read about in the right context, but in most scenes is depicted in an alien and detached way, as if the audience is also not tacitly aware of the characters’ need to breathe).

2. girl do you have to hit a wordcount or what. is this a legal deposition? why do so many conversations have such thoroughly notated exchanges. again, there are times where you want to draw out a conversation in its entirety but so many points have been rehashed again and again in this book that they dont need a full callback every three chapters. you vowed when your brother was born that you would protect him no matter what. we get it. you dont have to reflect on the moment of his “perfect birth” every time the two of you have an argument, unless it is to display how disturbing your obsession with your brother is. like really, it’s fucking creepy.

3. siblings are, and have always been, written in the creepiest way imaginable. the fact that this book is dedicated to the author’s siblings is shocking considering the way sibling interactions are written is idyllic to the point of being unnerving. like, the hallmark channel would tell her to pipe down a bit. i thought the “my little moon” exchanges in war crimes were bad; the whole fucking family is “lady sun” “lady moon” “little moon” and “LITTLE LORD SUN”. and then the constant referring to anduin as the “little lion” and “now not-so-little lion” genuinely feels like some kind of a complex. i am still making my way through so we’ll see how it turns out, but i doubt a book written for the warcraft franchise will touch on the apparent obsession sylvanas has toward her younger brother and how she is later projecting it on anduin. it’s so glaringly apparent as the story continues that it makes me uncomfortable, as i feel it was entirely unintentional on the author’s part. maybe it’s because im not a parent and grew up in an age range too close to my other siblings to feel that sense of overprotectiveness so i’m interpreting it wrong. but others ive talked to also agree the chemistry is stilted or bordering on possessive. 

at one point in the book sylvanas explicitly compares her attraction to nathanos as superseding the intimacy she has with her brother (lirath, by name). considering that nathanos is her romantic interest, this is a beyond bizarre comparison to make. sometimes i will say that my own younger brother is my favorite man in the world, but he is not on a rubric of comparison to a romantic or sexual partner. maybe this was her backwards way of saying sylvanas was discovering her love for nathanos was “more than a friend” or “different from a brother”, but “...She needed nathanos. ugly, blunt, sarcastic nathanos, who somehow understood her better than anyone, even lirath” is a weirdly tinged way to put it. again this is a more doylist read of “golden wtf are you writing” than a watsonian interpretation because, as i said, i dont think it was executed well enough for this nigh inc*stuous attachment issue to be written deliberately.

4. dovetailing on point 3 a little bit, several different characters have displayed genuine anger over kids growing up. like seething over lirath becoming a man, or that any of the windrunner siblings are no longer children, or that anduin is the aforementioned “no longer little lion” or whatever. i can understand the melancholy of the linear passage of time, and wistfulness of how “they grow up so fast”, but there are some points where sylvanas’ parents and sylvanas herself express near malice over the kids getting older, that they are no longer “perfect newborns”, and that they are starting to make their own decisions and have their own feelings and opinions and expect to be treated as adults. it happened enough times to stand out to me as being weird. like, you’re elves. you’ve had literally hundreds of years to adjust. get a grip sylv

5. i know he means “richness” in terms of familial stability but anduin crying to sylvanas that he “never had those riches” is fucking hilarious. you are LITERALLY KING my dude!!! battle of the bluebloods up in this LMFAO the girls are fighting!!!!!!! it’s just so fucking funny hearing sylvanas and anduin tearfully bickering over who had slightly less privilege: sylvanas, born into nobility to a tight-knit loving family separated by war and her teenage hijinks before being tortured beyond all recognition into a banshee? or anduin, forced to grow up too soon with a murdered mother and an absent, then psychologically-compromised father, but is also literally king? of a kingdom? AND theyre both white?

6. hard to figure out who this book is for. warcraft is rated T for teen but there is such palpable discrepancy between the events occurring and the tonality of them that is simultaneously immature and morbid. things that are supposed to be heartwrenching are just goofy and things that are supposed to be lighthearted and humorous are tepid and banal, inauthentic as canned laughs and formulaic like an afterschool special. well, at least sylvanas holding lirath’s dead body (spoilers) was actually sad, unlike anduin wrynn holding his own after the downright comical war crimes AU battle. foreshadowing is rough but keeps within its expiration date. however one periodically remembers (and the book refreshes this factoid in a quite hilarious fashion) that the backdrop of these stories of childhood love and loss is the tartarus-like prison in a sanctum of eternal damnation which gives the whole thing a dissonant atmosphere. and not in a clever ka applegate “kids crave these stories, actually” way but in a grimdark comic book “too far down the rabbit hole” mcu type way. this elf is telling stories about getting kicked out of a fancy party to a prince chained up in hell to persuade him to join the devil and it’s not supposed to be even a little bit funny? im not convinced this entire book isnt a bit

more as i continue. maybe

(second part here)

#sylvanas book spoilers #sylvanas book #world of warcraft / #wow spoilers / #blathering

[kimaisalloren]

“And left you shorter than the night elves you descended from”

Might draw more scenes from the novel idk

#I just found this scene funny af #and idk how to draw rn sry #like I’ve been struggling lately #sylvanas windrunner #sylvanas loyalist #sylvanas x nathanos #sylvanas book #Sylvanas spoilers #I guess despite this being like really early #nathanos blightcaller #warcraft #warcraft art

[tiefsterwinter]

Baine hiring assassin’s to kill Talanji when he hears she wants the alliance to face justice:

when they fail & he blames it on Sylvanas and everyone believes him immediately: 

#my posts #lol idk #i'm gonna pass out #shadowlands spoilers #yeah it's most likely gonna be sylvanas #shadows rising spoilers #kinda? #sylvanas #talanji #baine #the book was announced #world of warcraft

[doudouyouli]

Beform the storm mon avis

En français désolé... Va falloir passer par google traduction si vous voulez le lire.

In French sorry ... will have to go through google translation if you want to read it.

Alors que la plus part d'entre vous sont en train de monter leur level dans BFA, moi je traine... Ceux qui me lisent et me suivent, savent que j'ai acquis before the storm, sur kindle. Quand je suis rentré de vacance, il me manquait quelques chapitres pour le finir. ce que j'ai fait aujourd'hui en ayant dans les mains, le livre , le vrai, que j'avais commandé chez un libraire et mis de coté. bon... je sais ce n'est que mon simple  avis, mais j'aimerai le partager.

Tout d’abord je mets certaines choses au clair. J'aime beaucoup ce qu'écrit Christie Golden. en déplaise à certain. Peut être ma part de romantisme.... j'en sais trop rien. Mais elle est plaisant à lire, et j'aime beaucoup ses descriptions de personnages (secondaire ou non).

D’abord les aspects positifs, et qui ne tiennent qu'à moi...  

- Bon sang moi qui voulait du Anduin... ben je suis servie! Je pense qu'elle affectionne beaucoup Anduin (qu'elle le voit comme un homme hétéro, mais j’émets un doute avec une phrase qu'elle a écrite... alors premier spoil, il veut un mariage d'amour mais n'a pas précisé avec une femme ! ) Dans tous ses livres ou le jeune homme apparait, elle met beaucoup d'attention dessus.

- Bon sang j'ai pleuré ! Oui, j'ai pleuré sur la plage car j'avais emporté ma tablette pour le lire, et heureusement pour moi j'avais mes lunettes de soleil pour cacher mon désarrois face à.... beaucoup de chose en faite... Le poids du pouvoir pesant sur le jeune roi, le fait de renoncer à un amitié forte de plusieurs années par via des missives. Les réprouvés et leur façon de voir leur reine. Calia, et Foal. Le petit couple "Grissou" et Saffy. L'orateur peu écouté du coté de la horde... La main de fer de la Dame noir... et sa façon de voir les choses... bref!

- Les réprouvés! Oui c'est une bonne surprise! j'ai aimé la façon dont été aborder les réprouvés... Je ne vous en dis pas plus, je pourrais spoil mais non.

- mon dieu, nous avons une description du cheval d’Anduin... alors ouais super, qu’est qu’on en a a foutre du cheval d’Anduin... MAIS NON!!! moi j’aime!!! j’adore les chevaux, et j’adore le modèle de celui de mon roi, alors en savoir plus dessus!! c’est le bonheur complet,on a même son nom les amis! (Révérence en français, n’est ce pas mignon!)

il y a surement plein d'autre chose qui me viennent pas à l'esprit comme cela....

les aspects négatifs

- Alors certes, j’adore Anduin, mais je m’attendais à beaucoup plus de chose du coté de la Dame Noir... j’espérais un développement plus conséquent, alors c’est peut être un effet voulu de la part de l’auteure, mais je m’entendais à tellement plus de révélation sur sylvanas... Pourquoi agit elle ainsi? Bien qu’elle explique en gros, nous savons finalement très peu de pensées venant d’elle, contrairement à Anduin ou la nous avons carrément ses pensées les plus intimes...

- La place de la Lumière.

Alors je remet le conteste de ma vie, je suis croyante catholique. J’ai donc pas été choqué de voir combien la Lumière est présente, une religion... Mais du coup je me mets a la place que quelqu’un qui est athée... (comme mon mari par exemple) Je me demande si finalement ça ne lasse pas les lecteurs, une telle dévotion...

- La fin de Calia ( gros gros spoil!!)

alors franchement... Je ne sais pas quoi en penser, quand celle ci s’est effondré par terre, morte dans les colline d’Arathi, j’ai pleuré, et la! elle ressuscite grâce au naaru ou la lumière, je ne sais pas trop finalement (ou a Anduin et Foal? ) en une sorte de non morte, morte vivante? Imprégné de lumière? Je ne comprends pas la direction de Christie... Pourquoi? je veux dire, elle aurai pu finir morte comme cela, on aurait pleurer sa mort...et voila tout... Mais là? c’est WTF!!! C’est la porte ouverte a toutes sortes de dérive...

- Genn

Alors j’adore le cabot du petit lion, il est un vieux ronchon de roi ayant perdu son royaume, perdu son fils, veille sur Anduin comme son fils adopté. Bien Bien, mais merde!! pourquoi vouloir a tout prix marié Anduin!! La pérennité de la couronne??? Un héritier en cas de pépin!! et HoHo ca tombe bien, il a une fille dis donc!!

bon l’auteure a quand même fait d’Anduin quelqu’un qui fuit cette conversation, et quand il ne pouvait plus fuir, il a eu des mots justes (NANN mais Tess, elle ne serait pas contente, elle est lesbienne... Ha? Vous le saviez pas Genn? Ooups) Je veux un mariage d’amour!!! ( merci bien mon cher Anduin viens que je t’embrasse bien fort!)

pour résumer.

Dans l’ensemble j’ai adoré le livre, surprise par certaines révélations ( Baine / Anduin... hhaaaaa NANNN mais je le savais!!) des histoires de personnages secondaire attachants (trop après on pleure), quelques prises de décision incompréhensible... Il figure dans le top 3 de mes ouvrages préférés de warcraft  ( les deux autres étant crime de guerre, et cœur de loup)

#before the storm #spoilers #wow #anduin wrynn #sylvanas windrunner #World of Warcraft #book #my opinion

[braxiatel]

Windrunner sisters? more like Windrunner disasters, amirite?

[Image ID: A picture of a handshake between two people, showing their forearms and clasped hands. Over one arm is written “Sylvanas” and over the other “Alleria”. Over the handshake itself it reads “Sleeping with the nearest human to cope with the loss of their brother”. End ID] 

#I will make a separate post about ship stuff when I've read the entire book #for now just have a meme #hope I did okay with the ID! #Sylvanas Book Spoilers #Sylvanas Novel Spoilers #Sylvanas Spoilers #World of Warcraft