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cosmerelists · 8 months
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Favorite Musicals of Each Order of the Knights Radiant
We’ve already considered their favorite boardgames. But what about when it’s time to go to a musical? Which musical is preferred by each order?
1. Skybreakers: Les Misérables
They think Javert is the protagonist.
Szeth: Is it not strange that the musical continues for so long after the death of the protagonist?
Nale: Ah, but it is only thus that we see the real tragedy.
Nale: As all of the lawbreakers go on living, without punishment, due the the lawman not being willing to fulfill his duty.
Joret: It’s so horrifying.
Cali: Yes, hence the title.
2. Bondsmiths: West Side Story
It’s about two warring gangs being brought together.
Dalinar: Although it is sad, it is nice that it ends with all of the previously estranged people bonding over their loss.
Navani: And it really is through music that two warring sides can be brought together--perhaps even feel love for each other.
Dalinar: Yes. 
Dalinar: Wait, what? 
3. Edgedancers: Little Shop of Horrors
Or at least, it’s Lift’s favorite.
Lift: I dunno why Wyndle doesn’t like it--it’s about a plant!
Lift: A hungry plant too, so it has something in common with both of us!
Wyndle: I--
Wyndle: Never--
Wyndle: That--
Wynde: IT WAS SO HORRIFYING, MISTRESS!!!
Lift: It’s kinda in the title, dude.
4. Stonewards: The 25th Annual Putnam County Spelling Bee
They were surprised at how invested they got.
Badali: It may not be warfare, yet the efforts of these children are so inspiring.
Zu: They truly do fight until there is only one standing.
5. Elsecallers: A Little Night Music
Jasnah just thinks it’s neat.
Jasnah: I have to respect the effort of composing each song in 3/4 time.
6. Lightweavers: Phantom of the Opera
It’s about art, tortured souls, disguises...
Gaz: I gotta feel bad for the Phantom.
Shallan: What, because his love for Christine is doomed?
Vathah: Because it would suck to live in a sewer?
Gaz: Well sure.
Gaz: But also that one-sided mask.
Gaz: He must always feel like there’s something there in the darkness, something just out of his sight.
Shallan: ...
Vathah: ...
Gaz: N-Not that I would know anything about that, ha ha!
7. Truthwatchers: Lion King
They went for the costumes and ended up being  blown away by the story.
Rlain: If Simba had just told the truth about his father’s death, all of that could have been avoided.
Stump: Yeah, well, kids are pretty stupid sometimes.
Renarin: Although by running away, Simba did get to be raised by two awesome gay dads, so that’s nice!
Stump: ...
Renarin: What?
8. Willshapers: Scarlet Pimpernel
It’s about rescuing innocent (?) aristocrats from being imprisoned and guillotined!  
Eshonai: It is truly inspiring to see a group of humans working so hard to free other humans before their unjustified deaths.
Venli: That Madame Guillotine song is really catchy though.
Eshonai: Yeah, you almost can almost understand the killing there.
9. Dustbringers: Wicked
They appreciate the overall message.
Malata: Yeah, there really are two sides to every story!
Ral-na: And just because a power is popularly deemed destructive, that does not mean it is so.
10. Windrunners: Also Wicked
Although their reasoning is...different.
Bridge Four, in their barracks: SO IF YOU CARE TO FIND ME / LOOK TO THE WESTERN SKY
Bridge Four: AS SOMEONE TOLD ME LATELY / EVERYONE DESERVES THE CHANCE TO FLY!
Bridge Four: AND IF I’M FLYING SOLO / AT LEAST I’M FLYING FREEEE
Bridge Four: TO THOSE WHO’D GROUND ME / TAKE A MESSAGE BACK FROM MEEEEE
Bridge Four: TELL THEM HOW I AM DEFYING GRAVITY / I’M FLYING HIGH, DEFYING GRAVITY!
Kaladin (wiping away a tear): It’s just such a good song.
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gal-palanaeum · 3 months
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This Is How You Grieve Your Lover by LunaEarnshaw
Rated Mature, 1000 words, Shallan/Tyn Shallan's lover is dead. She had it coming. She was a con-woman and a liar, but, then again, so is Shallan. This is how she grieves her.
Teen-rated excerpt:
Step One: Tell the story. (It’s not like she can.)
It’s not exactly a lie when Shallan tells Vathah and the others that Tyn was sent to assassinate her. She doesn’t elaborate, and no one dares question her.
She doesn’t look at the corpse, with it’s terrible burnt out eyes. She moves on. Shallan’s good at moving on, at not looking back. She tells other stories, and maybe they have a few flourishes of a con artist to them now; just like how perhaps her jokes have gotten a little cruder, and she barely even blushes when she tells them.
As for stories about Tyn? Tyn who? The story becomes nothing happened. Shallan knows that story well. Silence is a story she’s told all her life.
She wonders if she’ll ever trust someone enough in the future to tell a different story. One day maybe she’ll be able to say: I loved a woman; she betrayed me.
Or maybe she’ll say: I loved a woman; I betrayed her.
Step Two: Carry a piece of her with you.
Shallan goes through Tyn’s things, gathering up the pieces of her lover, all her disguises, a coat, a hat. She lays all these costumes before her, all these roles that Tyn has played. Now Shallan can play them too. If she thinks of it that way, it’s like she’s honoring her, like she’s continuing her lover’s legacy rather than robbing the woman she killed. Either way, Tyn’s lies become Shallan’s lies.
She takes the spanreed and with it Tyn’s connections to the Ghostbloods. She sets up meetings meant for Tyn. In a way, she goes through the steps of what Tyn’s life could have been. Tyn’s truth also becomes Shallan’s lies.
Shallan takes Tyn’s lessons with her too. The clever tricks, the bits of wisdom, the doses of realism, all these were Tyn’s gifts to her. She will carry them with her always: the art of the con always in the back of her mind, even when she wishes she didn’t have to lie. And so Tyn’s lies, her own lies —because really where does one end and the other begin?— become Shallan’s truth.
Step Three: Dream of her.
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xoshepard · 6 months
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agajdh for some reason i can't stop imagining vathah as this hun from mulan
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curlytale · 2 years
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Cosmere Inktober 2022 day 22: Heist. The Kholinar food heists featuring Veil and Vathah!
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elmaxlys · 2 years
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In my copy of WoR (french) Vathah is spelled Vathath and I just found out on the coppermind that it's actually Vathah. I'm feeling a special kind of betrayed
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silvercaptain24 · 4 months
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*happy noise at Vathah*
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lamaery · 3 years
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more side character pairs! For Shallan’s guard the colored versions of Gaz and Vathah and for the bridgemen Bisig and Peet who now finally have full defined faces in my head...
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butwhybother · 3 years
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Note this description of Vathah:
"He was never properly shaved, but also never ended up with a full beard." -Rhythm of War chapter 26
So he just sounds like a guy who doesn't care for his beard well, right? Except, compare this description of Vasher:
"He also wore the same half-scrub, half-beard on his face. It never seemed to get longer, yet she never saw him trim or shave it." -Warbreaker chapter 46 (emphasis added)
Because of Vasher, even a simple thing like having a scruffy beard makes a character look suspect. Vathah's control over the unkemptness of his beard is uncanny. Now I'm convinced that Vathah is either a Returned or a kandra. I blame Vasher.
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uneditedbookreview · 4 years
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Okay but how are Kaladin and Vathah not best friends?
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basket-of-radiants · 4 years
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We got Adolin!!!! And Pattern!!!
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cosmerelists · 10 months
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Favorite Boardgames of Each Order of the Knights Radiant
It’s Radiant Boardgame Night on Roshar! What would be the favorite boardgame of each Order of the Knights Radiant?
1. Bondsmiths: Connect Four
It’s a game about forging connections! 
Stormfather: Yes, Dalinar, allow the red pieces to fall into place! Complete the line! Forge the bond!
Sibling: Use your wily human ways to be victorious, Navani!! Go diagonal or something!
Dalinar: They certainly are...invested in this game.
Navani: Just so long as the Stormfather doesn’t blow over the board when I win.
Navani: ...Again.
Stormfather: I’m very invested in connecting!!
2. Dustbringers: Jenga
With their surges of Division and Abrasian, the Dustbringers have powers that could be called...destructive. I think they’d enjoy Jenga. 
Malata: Ha, ha! I have made the tower CRUMBLE
Ral-na: You are aware, of course, that per the rules, this means you have lost the game.
Malata: Wait, we’re playing by the rules? 
3. Truthwatchers: Clue
The Truthwatchers believe in finding and sharing the truth. Like...the truth of who murdered Mr. Body this time!
Renarin: It was Mr. Green in the Library with the Wrench!
Rlain: You won AGAIN?!
Stump: You’re not using your future sight or something, are you kid?
Rlain: You know Renarin wouldn’t do that.
Stump (muttering): Just think it’s weird that I never win.
Renarin: That might be because you always accuse Colonel Mustard.
Stump: That mustache is DEFINITELY hiding something!
4. Skybreakers: Monopoly
The Skybreakers believe in obeying the law, no matter what. And if there’s a game that people don’t normally follow the actual rules for, it’s this one. The Skybreakers? They’d play it “right.”
Szeth: The other knights speak of something called “House Rules” for this game.
Nale: “House rules” are not rules at all, but merely inventions of unreliable human actors who wish the game to be “shorter” or “more fun.”
Nale: We will NOT continue the game until SOMEBODY buys this property at auction.
Joret: Personally, I LOVE not having fun!
Cali (muttering): Kiss-ass. 
5. Lightweavers: Pictionary 
With their artistic skills, Pictionary would surely be a delight for the Lightweavers.
Beryl: It’s an apple!
Shallan: Shhh...hang on...I’m not done...
Vathah: Come on, come on, that’s already the best drawn apple we’ve ever seen, etc.
Shallan: Aaand done!
Gaz: Time’s up.
Ishnah: It’s still tied.
Ishnah: Mostly because we’re all drawing only one picture per round.
Shallan: Maybe timed games aren’t really for us...
6. Willshapers: Mousetrap
The Willshapers love two things: building and freeing those who have been unjustly imprisoned.
Eshonai: Wait, you said this game was about freedom, but it seems that I will be trying to trap you in a mouse jail?
Venli: Shhh...I’m putting the final touches on my mousetrap! Ha! It looks AMAZING
Eshonai: Are we trying to keep ourselves free by imprisoning others? Is that..okay?
Venli: Don’t think too hard about it.
7. Elsecallers: Scrabble 
The Elsecallers are thoughtful, scholarly, and logical. I think they’d enjoy transforming a bunch of disparate letters into words!
Jasnah: Ah, I seem to have another 7-letter word. Amusingly, it is “radiant.”
Jasnah: And over here I can make “crab,” which is not bad with the “b” counting twice on the triple letter score.
Jasnah: Looks like Side A is currently winning.
Jasnah: ...
Jasnah: Sometimes I wish there were other Elsecallers. 
8. Stonewards: Risk
The Stonewards tend to be soldiers and to enjoy warfare, weaponry, and challenges. They can make do in difficult circumstances. It seems like they’d enjoy a good game of Risk!
 Zu: I shall reinforce Greenland! That is where my troops are most needed!
Badali: Wow, another game heading into its third hour!
Badali: Take two people who are both stubborn and good at strategy...
Zu: And you have great fun all afternoon?
Badali: That’s what I was going to say!
9. Edgedancers: Pandemic
The Edgedancers are healers and helpers, those who listen to people who may otherwise be ignored and remember those who may be forgotten. I think a lovely cooperative game, and one in which you work together to heal the world, would be great for them.
Lift: I did it! I discovered one of the cures!
Godeke: Great job, kid!
Lorain: It’s no nice to play this game without a worldwide pandemic actually going on, huh?
Godeke: What, uh, made you say that?
Lorain: You know,  I have no idea!
10. Windrunners: Chess
I know chess may sound like an Elsecaller game, but hear me out. The Windrunners are all about military ranks, and in chess all the pieces represent a rank. The Windrunners believe in protecting the weak--like the king piece. Sometimes they have to accept that they can’t protect everyone, like when they must sacrifice pawns. They’re good at working in tandem, and chess is about getting disparate pieces to work together. So Chess seems like something they’d enjoy...with maybe a few exceptions.
Kaladin: Well, this game gets one thing right.
Teft: That it takes a squad to protect a man?
Skar: That the ardents go their own way?
Sigzil: Bishops.
Skar: Whatever.
Moash: That everyone is forced to protect the king, even though he is demonstrably the weakest and most useless piece?
Lyn: That any pawn can attain ultimate power?
Kaladin: No. 
Kaladin: It gets horses right.
Kaladin: Why are they the only piece that consists of a giant, creepy head?
Kaladin: Why are they big as the castle?
Kaladin: Why the hell do they move like that?!
Kaladin: This is a game about how terrifying and creepy horses are.
Teft: Maaaaybe that’s enough chess for today.
Kaladin (whispering): No one gets me like chess does. 
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imonlyhereforcrem · 3 years
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Unnecessary Stormlight Statistics (Part 3: RoW Interludes 1-6 and Part 2
((No spoiler tag because I don’t think these stats are enough info to spoil the book))
This is just the swears for this chunk of the book. I’ll do a different post with the cumulative tally.
The Kholins:
Dalinar: 0 swears, 0%  of words, spoken or thought
Navani: 14 swears, ~0.1%  of words, spoken or thought
Adolin: 17 swears, ~0.07%  of words, spoken or thought
Jasnah: 1 swear, ~0.5%  of words, spoken or thought
The Davars:
Shallan: 9 swears, ~0.04% (of words spoken by all three)
Veil: 6, ~0.03% (of words spoken by all three)
Radiant: 3, ~0.01% (of words spoken by all three)
The Stormblesseds:
Kaladin: 24, ~0.13%  of words, spoken or thought
Syl: 1, ~0.03% (she says it making fun of human fluids, lol)
Lirin: 3, ~0.25%  of words, spoken or thought
Hesina: 0, 0%  of words, spoken or thought
Listeners/Singers:
Venli: 1, ~0.02%  of words, spoken or thought
Radiants:
Teft: 6
Ishnah: 3
Vathah: 1
Godeke: 1
Zu: 2
Others:
Rlain: 1
Teofil: 2
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kingjasnah · 4 years
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vathah is really up there when it comes to funniest minor cosmere characters. he really got clowned on by a 5'2 castaway with no shoes so many times he was like aight fuck it and just like *follows her to the end of the world* *accidentally becomes very gifted in espionage and hates every second of it* *becomes a full on lightweaver squire for the meme*
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alittlewarlord · 3 years
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oh man I KNOW this isn't accurate in the least but every time I picture vathah in my head all I see is
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waffle-sorter · 3 years
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Rhythm of War Chapter 36
Honestly the main appeal of chapters in the Cognitive Realm is worldbuilding, and most of this travelogue stuff is just rehashing what we already got and/or glossing over things. Can we get a break with some scholarship, or exploration of Lasting Integrity, or switch back to Kaladin and Navani, or something?
Oof, that doesn’t sound good.
Look, you bring an Edgedancer along, you shouldn’t be surprised when they want to care about the dead people.
I suspect that what’s happening is that Adolin is so determined to build Connection with Maya that the Cosmere is rebuilding her Identity to give him something to Connect to.
Like... this in particular. Can we drop the suspicion plotline for a couple of chapters? You can get it back after class.
Either way, this isn’t a whole answer. Pattern couldn’t have killed Ialai in the Physical Realm, at least not without a lot of difficulty.
Wasn’t he there to hear all three conversations?
OOOOOH! Yes, okay, that could work!
“We know humans,” says a spren in the same group that a page ago complained about humans treating all spren the same.
My vote would be Zu and Vathah. Not sure why them specifically, just a gut feeling. Although having a Stoneward at your back isn’t likely to be a bad idea.
Aw.
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velkynkarma · 4 years
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(stormlight anon) Vathah is a squire!!! I'm so delighted that Shallan's gaining squires!!!
I love seeing everyone’s loyal friends getting rewarded for being loyal before powers were involved :)
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