#adv taichi and hikari

[hikari-m]

{DigiAdv Ep. 49} (J.P.N Version) ~ Important QUOTES + Hikaris Character Progression + Hikari & Taichi / {Platonic}/{Familial} Moments & Interaction + Hikari & Koushiro / Moments & Interaction + Hikari & Sora / {Friendship} Moments & Interaction + Taichi & Koushiro / Moments + Andromon, vs. Mugendramon / Mugendramon Arc

“Yokata...!!” - Koushiro (Expression of relief / “That’s great!” etc.)

“Hikari!!” - Taichi “Onii-chan*...!!” - Hikari {*Big brother, how Hikari addresses Taichi in J.P.N}

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#yagami hikari #yagami taichi #izumi koushiro #izumi koushirou #takenouchi sora #adv yagamis #adv taichi and hikari #koutai #adv koutai #adv taichi and koushiro #: shall we go together #koukari friendship #koukari moments #sokari friendship #koushiro and andromon #andromon vs mugendramon #adventure spoilers

[kbondoxxxxav]

actor au i made on twitter 

#digimon #digimon adventure #taichi yagami #tai kamiya #yamato ishida #matt ishida #sora takenouchi #koushiro izumi #izzy izumi #mimi tachikawa #jyou kid #joe kido #takeru takaishi #tk takaishi #hikari yagami #kari kamiya #digimon adv actors au

[taichi-x-koushiro]

Digimon Adventure ~ 25th Anniversary Pop-Up Shop + Taichi Yagami & Koushiro{u} Izumi (+with Agumon & Tentomon) (Higher quality art from the character stand previews!)

{Note how Koushiro has mainly ORANGE (Taichi), Dark fuschia pink (Hikari) and green (Mimi) splashes, with a significant amount from Taichi too} (Koushiro also seemed to land a hit or two on Agumon!)

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#taishirou #taishiro #koutai #taichi x koushiro #taichi x koushirou #taichixkoushiro #koushiro x taichi #koushiro izumi #izumi koushirou #yagami taichi #koushiro and tentomon #official koushiro #official taichi #adv merch #(IM LAUGHING THAT KOUSHIRO GOT SO MANY HITS FROM TAICHI T A I C H I WHO WERE YOU AIMING FOR EXACTLY) #(Koushiro landed exactly One or Two Hits on Agumon) #(HIKARI GOT KOUSHIRO FULL ON THE CHEEK LIKE)

[koushirouizumi]

{Updated 25th A n n i v e r s a r y A R T}

+For ADVENTURE Exhibition in J A P A N!! {Aug 10th~25th 2k24!!}

#izumi koushirou #official koushiro #official hikari #official adv sora #official adv mimi #official mimi #official jou #kido jou #official adv takeru #(ALL MY FAVS ARE F R O N T & C E N T E R AAAAAAAA) #(OK MIGHT MAKE RBABLE LATER) #(TBH I DONT MIND IF NOT HAVING D I G I F E S) #(I JUST HOPE We Get Any New official Info+A r t From This TOO) #({NO NEW SERIES ANNOUNCE YET OKOKOK BUT ENJOY A R T}) #(KOUSHIRO IS RIGHT NEXT TO *DAISUKE* + RIGHT ACROSS FROM BOTH TAICHI {AND} MIMI ANYWAY I WIN!!!!!) #(Ofc Koushiro Staring Off To The Side BC FOCUSING ON I N T E R E S T S--- {AS PER USUAL})

[izzyizumi]

Meanwhile on DigiAdvs

PATAMON, agHAST Voice: You KICK Patamon??? You kICK PATAMON LIKE A FOOTBALL?!! Oh! Oh! Shut in the school at night for Takeru and Daisuke (and Miyako, and Yamato, aND--)! Shut in the school at night for One Million Years!!!! Takeru: ...Patamon, but we'd have graduated by--- Patamon: SHUT IN THE SCHOOL at NIGHT for ONE BILLION Years!!!!! DAISUKE: tAKErU---- YAMATO: Koushiro, mental sighing: (I'll just leave some extra keys by the doors and... other places.) Taichi, trying to keep from cracking up nearby: (pppFFFFT....) Tailmon: (It could have been me, but Hikari knows to not "kick me like a football", so I don't care.) Hikari: (... I'll have to be careful when I nudge Tailmon next time.)

#meanwhile on digiadvs #meanwhile on digiadvs 02 #meanwhile with 02 chosen #izzyizumi hcs #advs takeru #izzyizumi koushiro #advs koushiro #advs timeline: post 02 #advs timeline: post bnm #advs takeru and patamon #izzyizumi hikari #(This is probably A Thing That Happens) #(after 02 Chosen get to all enter into high school) #(alternatively University) #(if in the University A.U. I have) #(Yamato is ALLCAPS SILENT because Yamato Does Not Like School At Night Now & gets caught in bc Takeru Involvement) #(Taichis pfffftng because Taichi wasnt involved for a Change and actually gets to go home w Koushiro) #(Koushiros sighing because Koushiros usually the one to make sure computer rooms still in order regardless of how they travel) #(Everyone else is probs just Watching and Sighing) #(PATAMON @ ME ' YOU KICK PATAMON ????? LIKE A--- ') #(M E ' W E L L ') #digiadvs x miette #(I'm Not Sorry this suddenly came to mind and Im Cracking Up) #(Also because Im totally not Feeling for my old O.C. site today its totallyyyyy not around the Anniversary of when it Existed) #(I had a whole dang rp and TimelineTM going on with these guys!!!) #(But for real Takerus arc gave me so much dang trouble Ive just been hopping around Koushiros for ages until I go back to Finish the rest) #(I did have a lot of Big Ideas for it but maaaan putting those into action Yeah Kinda Doubt It'll Ever Happen Now) #(maybe I can Hint at things in future A.M.V.s though Sometime) #(but anyway so in the old fic Takeru had a Budding respectTM of Daisuke going on except Daisukes not really aware At First) #(because of reasons involving some O.C.s & also Ken so meanwhile Takerus kind of here like 'Oh. I DO care about ALL these people. Oh')

[digitalgate02]

The UPDATED (OG) Adventure universe’s Partnership double year math count

Updated Digimon Adventure OG Timeline’s Partnership Math Count List 

Not particularly spoilers from the movie, just stuff stated by the official timeline from the pre-release stream for the movie in Japan (Oct 26)

Early 80s - Oikawa Yukio & Hida Hiroki make the first contact with the Digital World, befriend Pipimon (no partnerships)

1995 - Hikari and Taichi find a Koromon egg* (no partnerships)

1996 - 2 (Rui; someone else gets a digimon later in that year*)

1997 - 4 (Menoa)

1998 - 8 (Possibly the previous 5 mentioned from Adv’99 anime/novels)

1999 - 16 (Adv Eight, Meiko*)

2000 - 32 (Ken*)

2001 - 64 (Michael)

2002 - 128 (Daisuke, Miyako, Iori)

2003 - 256

2004 - 512

2005 - 1,024

2006 - 2,048

2007 - 4,096

2008 - 8,192

2009 - 16,384

2010 - 32,768

2011 - 65,536

2012 - 131,072

2013 - 262,144

2014 - 524,288

2015 - 1.048,576

2016 - 2.097,152

2017 - 4.194,304

2018 - 8.388,608

2019 - 16.777,216

2020 - 33.554,432

2021 - 67.108,864

2022 - 134.217,728

2023 - 268.435,456

2024 - 536.870,912

2025 - 1.073.741,824

2026 - 2.147.483,648

2027 -  4.294.967,296

2028 (02 Epilogue) - 8.589.934,592

↓ Original notes + "Why there's still no retcon of the lore" below ↓

First, the OG notes from the outdated post:

→ This count is not about “which was the very first digimon-human contact”, and yes about people with a digivice. Because if we were going to count who was the first human to have contact with a digimon, it’s actually two and they’re Oikawa Yukio and Iori’s dad, Hida Hiroki.

→ I’m ignoring all the inconsistencies with other material (WS & ▽) because they seem to not match well with the original count. So, in this case, Ken’s statement in the anime (Aug 2000) is the one to be accounted for here. I don’t know if Ryo counts as Chosen (possibly yes, judging by 02 flashbacks) but I’m not sure where to place him here.

→ I’m only adding Michael to the count, even if he’s not a main character and yes a side character, because 02 ep 14 had this statement regarding him. And I like Michael too so, let me have him there :V

→ Menoa states in the movie she met Morphomon when she was nine, and according to the Dash X novel version, she’s the same age as Taichi. Which means she became a Chosen in 1997.

→ I couldn’t think of how to include Maki & Daigo’s group in this because ▽ contradicts with the original lore’s math – The fact the Pt4 book released with the movie on Japanese theaters state them being in Elementary School the time they went to their adventure in the DW, and later the confession scene means they’re in University/College makes them possibly been Chosen Children way before 1995, and I’d take it granted that they were chosen by someone else IF weren’t for the Homeostasis being involved in the scene and the digivice being way too modern for that time (it was basically Taichi group’s model. If you look at Rui’s digivice in the leaked footage from DigiFes2022, his model seems to be different and an older version)

→ That said, Meiko is the only character in ▽ that does not fall into contradiction with the math count. Because in 1999 there was not only Taichi’s group, but also other 8 non-featured Chosen according to Kakudou’s notes. So we can consider Meiko one of those other 8 children.

→ When it comes to Wallace, I prefer to think he is game in the original math – Taichi and Hikari met that Koromon in 95, but they had no digivice until 1999. Which means it can be possible that Wallace had encountered Gummy-Choco’s egg before 1995 and only became an official Chosen Child later.

Now, the new notes:

→ To avoid spoiling any detail about the movie itself, I’ll make sure to tell you they might have changed how the math works only. It’s not like, “everyone gets a digimon at the same time” but rather… “A X number of people get partnered with a digimon in different periods of a year” – Which means yes, you can still count Rui and Ukkomon as the origins of the Digimon partnership, but that later in the same year someone else (or, say, Wallace in the main timeline) got a partner months later.

→ That said, I’m opting to update this list and work within the idea that various sources of partnership (Homeostasis, Holy Beasts, etc) can be counted in the math. Remember – Homeostasis (not referred to as this in the OG series but yes in the novels) had selected Taichi & co., but the Holy Beasts chose Dai-Miya-Iori. And some other entity probably chose Ken in August 2000. This could explain why there’s a higher number of partnerships happening at the same time in Adv’99 and 02.

→ As I mentioned before, and indirectly supported by the staff (check the official timeline at the top of the list), ▽ has violated the lore to the point it goes in direct conflict with the new 02 movie and the entire timeline. So I guess it’s better to consider ▽ as its own timeline/Alternate universe than forcing it into the main timeline.

→ That said, and since Meiko does exist in Kizuna/main timeline, I suppose Maki and Daigo also do exist, and maybe they got their “ages” retconned and down to something suitable to the universe’s math count. They can still be part of the previous five kids mentioned in Adv’99 anime/novels, but they are probably around their teen years, or even early 20s instead, not fully adults working for the government I suppose. Or alternatively, just not Chosen yet. Pick your favorite route, Maki/Daigo fans!!

→ Yes, the Koromon from the very first movie IS NOT THE SAME PARTNERED WITH TAICHI. This never was confirmed, and was just fandom's theory. Considering how ▽ also made this mistake and possibly was one of the lore's violation, I prefer to believe this means it's not the same Koromon/Agumon partnered with Taichi in Adv'99.

#digimon adventure #digimon adventure 02 #digifood for thought #kizuna spoilers #02tb spoilers #ni's digitheories

[beginningobserver]

I'm pretty sure he met Ukkomon before that event happened. After all the flashback/memory? showed it took place around young Tai's and Kari's age of that movie, and after the wish that event happened right after. Unless I missed something that proves its after that event? [...] Lui and Ukkomon state how they're the first Digimon and human to interact. When they're actually the third ones to interact in the timeline.

Kinda got this on my replies for the headcanon-theory that Rui witnessed the Greymon vs Parrotmon in 1995. And since due to the character limit in the place i got this response, i'll just talk about it here.

Things to consider:

The cameo of baby Taichi and Hikari in the movie is not retconning anything. It's just a small cameo and to indicate Rui and Ukkomon lived in Hikarigaoka in 1996. Besides, this video here has a timeline for the movie. [static photos of said timeline here and here]

[⚠ Take this with a grain of salt] In an interview in Korean with SekiP, she already confirmed they changed a bit of the lore. And, since we can't check the original wording in Japanese (since translation from JP to KR to EN might have something lost in the translation and re-translation) there's nothing we can do about it. Said interview also mentioned the math count being about a kid with a digivice, and not by digimon encounters. Because we all know the "first" to have interacted with a digimon were Oikawa Yukio and Hiroki Hida (Iori's dad) in the 1980s. I took those words granted (yeah i decided to take the risks) when i made this list & math here.

If we're going with that statement, Taichi and Hikari never had a digivice in the 1995 events. They only got digivices and partners in 1999. You can consider Wallace’s issue solved if you think this way too: Got the twin-mons before 1995 but only got a digivice and officially partnered with Terriermon/Gummymon somewhere later.

I'm so sorry to disagree here, but I don't think director Kakudou ever explained how the math actually worked. So i can't really claim this is a plot hole/contradiction or just straight up the 02TB staff interpreting the rule of "digimon partnerships doubling once per year" in their own way. Like i said, we never had details about how digimon partnerships happen: is it one per each person in the span of a year or the number just doubles instantly?

Now, actual SPOILERS from the movie. This section will be left under "read more" in case you haven't watched it yet!

The entire movie does not blatantly agree with Rui's statements -- None of the 02 kids believe him immediately. They even point out certain oddities in Rui's statements, especially about the origins of the human-digimon partnerships. The movie definitely makes you question if whatever he's saying is true or is something Ukkomon told him a long time ago and he believed it.

The movie also is in check with the "math" as well, and said count is stated in one scene. The math just tracks with the count for the 2012 period -- it's not a full number, but makes sense coming from the actual count stated in Kizuna materials. Despite Kizuna also breaking a few specifics in order to make their plot work, it is still pretty loyal to the OG rules about partnerships.

According to the Bandai null lore profile for Ukkomon, the part of granting wishes is a rumor, not something confirmed to be true. This is also something that makes everyone doubt Rui's words. Miyako even comments on this being suspicious enough. (tho i can't remember exactly her words now alas)

However, i give Ukkomon the benefit of the doubt when he talks about being part of something bigger. Which is proven correct because once BigUkkomon is beaten, the digivices also are not needed anymore and they disappear. If this was part of Ukkomon's power or not, i don't know, but my assumption is that whoever is Ukkomon's higher ups acknowledged that the humans can form bonds with their digimon without that token. It's something similar to Adv'99 ep 53 & 54 in which the kids realize they didn't need the tags to evolve their digimon -- and that said tags were only needed to teach/train them to unlock those evolutions properly.

Btw the reason the digivices disappear are stated by the staff that in the OG 02 epilogue there's no digivices shown. This is correct: None of the scenes involving the grown up Tokyo Chosen or their children depict the digivices.

The movie is still in check with the OG lore and it might be its own interpretation of what we only got from the "digimon partnerships double per year" rule (which we never had enough details of how it worked). Even if it is plot hole or not it doesn't matter to me, or to others who liked this movie.

I'll quote Shinomiya Rina's words in Cyber Sleuth, when you have a friendly match with her:

[ID: "Haha, who cares? Don't think so deeply about it. It's boring to give a reason for everything, isn't it?"]

Interpret it in your own way, i'm just pointing out my own chain of thought and stating what was already said by the staff as well.

#02tb spoilers #ni's digitheories

[reliablejoukido]

NaNo Project Update #5: Week 4/Finale

"Somewhere Only We Know" Chapters 11-16

Chapter 11/16: Hikari and Takeru, mostly Hikari POV - 100% COMPLETE!

Chapter 12/16: Daisuke and Ken, both POV - 100% COMPLETE!

Chapter 13/16: Miyako and Koushiro, mostly Miyako POV - 100% COMPLETE!

Chapter 14/16: Ensemble adv cast, mostly Taichi POV - 0%

Chapter 15/16: Sora and Joe, mostly Sora POV - 0%

Chapter 16/16: Ensemble 02 cast, Mimi & Joe - multiple POV - 0%

I set out at the beginning of NaNo to write only SOWK, hoping to finish the story. Obviously it didn't quite work out that way, but I'm happy with getting 3 out of 6 chapters accomplished. I will make a more comprehensive project update soon, but in essence, I'm taking a break from writing this story until the spring. I WILL be posting the 3 finished chapters much sooner though.

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"The Universal Language of Friendship" Chapters 1-6

ON HOLD - about 35% done

Still on hold. Still not feeling it. But I do have plans to return. Thank you to everyone supporting me.

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"(Don't) stop flirting" - Daiken oneshot (rated M)

100% COMPLETE!

I'm really proud of how this one turned out, even though it was relatively short.

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"Bar-Crossed Lovers" - Daiyako multi-chaptered (rated M)

100% COMPLETE!

I got this one up past 11k, which helped my NaNo numbers a lot. I adore Daiyako/Daimiya and I want to explore this ship more in the future. At first, with this fic, I was worried everything was too way silly. But then I realized I didn't have to make it serious if I didn't feel like it. So this is the most unabashedly romcom-y story I think I've ever written. And I've written a lot of romcom.

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"Backstreet's Back" (working title) - Daikenkeru oneshot (rated explicit)

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I've had bits and pieces of this Daikenkeru threesome fic written for a few years now. Most of my writing for it took place after I reached 50k, but I'm still counting this as a project I worked on during NaNo. The fic is chaotic and sexy and weird. And if you know the real reason why the working title is "Backstreet's Back", I love you.

I want to take my time during December on this one, since I'm technically supposed to be taking a writing break. I'm sure there are people out there interested in reading this type of fic, so I've been wanting to actually finish it for a long time.

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I accomplished 50k and beyond! All in all, my first NaNo was pretty fun. Everyone in the Camp Digimonth server was wonderfully kind and supportive, as well as my followers and mutuals here on tumblr. I'm really glad I took a chance with NaNo. I have to admit that I did get stressed out a few times trying to stay ahead of the game with my wordcount, causing me to panic about how I wanted to move forward with the month. But talking it out with encouraging friends was a blessing.

Work projects, my cousin's wedding, the 02 film, a bad headcold, Jou Weekend, and Thanksgiving all threw hurdles at me, both good and stressful. But I prevailed and I'm proud of myself. I still can't believe I decided to work on 5 projects over NaNo instead of one, but I think in doing that, it helped keep the momentum going. Whenever I got stuck on something with SOWK, I was able to pick up a different project and work from there. And all of those separate projects were something exciting to work on.

Anyway, I hope everyone who participated in NaNo 2023 had a good one, no matter where you ended up progress-wise with your projects. And a BIG thank you to everyone who was supportive of the people doing NaNo this month!

#project update; #NaNo update; #Zuzu attempts NaNo; #fics: somewhere; #fics: the universal language of friendship; #fics: bar-crossed lovers; #fics: (don't) stop flirting; #fics: backstreet's back;

[rurulaura]

It’s been four years since i drew the 25 yrs later ideas i had. I wanted to make my own headcannons and everything filled with inspiration like i saw with everyone else’s. But i just don’t.

It took time for me to realize it’s ok to not have the same amazing ideas as everyone else. I do have inspirations for some characters. But not for all.

Taichi and Yamato is the same. They are married with sora being the surrogate.

I want the theme of older sisters in this au. Because there are so many older brothers as the forefront in adv. I’m glad we got older sister in hunters! We also don’t have an older sister and younger sister chosen duo i don’t think? I would like that to become reality.

I can’t think of sora being married with biological kids. Instead i see her more in the mother figure position. Like a foster parent or works at an orphanage or day center.

I like mimi and meiko still being a married couple. Have a kid, maybe even live on the out skirts of the city:..

I didn’t have anything for relationship for Koushirou. Until digimon kizuna. Two geniuses that flourish in research and computers. They could talk about various subjects for days. I don’t know if i see them as having kids.

Sometimes people want to be married, but not have kids. And there is nothing wrong with that. Not that they dislike kids. But just don’t have interest.

Jou and the bike girl from the revenge of diaboromon i know is a common ship. And jou has a girlfriend in tri. So i don’t see why they couldn’t still be a thing. Shhh. I don’t care if tri used that as a running gag My brother and his wife was an example of love at first sight. ☺️🥰 i just don’t have inspiration for their character beyond that.

I am still keeping the takeru and hikari pairing. I was nervous that the two sets of siblings was illegal. But it’s not so heck ya! I like the idea of their twins being troublemaking pranksters too much.

Daisuke and keiko. I want daisuke to be happy! But beyond marrying someone who is a big food enthusiast as he is, that’s really all i know. If they mark and have kids, should i make them have a daughter? Or maybe this is one if the cases that daisuke stays single…

Miyako and ken are the same. Older daughter, son, and youngest daughter.

Iori and Mizuki from hunters who has the submarimon is an endearing couple. I can imagine her getting him to relax by exploring the ocean. Maybe he feels obligated to explore the digital world in honor of his dad.

I also thought about daigo and maki. I’d like them to be married too. I don’t have any sparks of inspiration of what to do. But they deserve happiness after tri. 😭

That’s my rambling for now…

#digimon #nekoart #25 years epilogue

[variouscolors]

I never made a list of ships i'm totes fine to ship here, because i'm a multishipper -- my only request is just no adult/minor, digi/human, incest stuff & Hiro/Ruli (^・ω・^ )

However, if you want to know...

My main OTPs are:

Daisuke/Rui [Current OTP]

Daisuke/Miyako [biggest OTP ever]

Menoa/Taichi [also my Kizuna main OTP]

Wallace/Daisuke [Also another big OTP]

Takeru/Daisuke [recent OTP]

Daisuke/Hikari [Childhood lowkey OTP]

Rui/Hikari [lowkey OTP]

Rui/Ken [lowkey OTP]

Ken/Miyako

Ken/Daisuke [I'M ULTRA SELECTIVE ABOUT THIS ONE]

Ken/Hikari [Teenage Ni's OTP]

Takeru/Ken

Taichi/Sora

Taichi/Daisuke [adults only]

Yamato/Sora

Daigo/Maki [this the ONLY ship i do with those two]

Mimi/Miyako

Taichi/Meiko

Sora/Meiko

Menoa/Koushiro

Takuya/Kouji

Takuya/Izumi

Takuya/Daisuke

Takato/Daisuke

Ikuto/Chika

Taiki/Akari

Taiki/Nene

Kiriha/Taiki

Tagiru/Yuu

Rina/Daisuke [same ages only]

Jun/Momoe (yep)

[Frontier] Bokomon/Neemon

[OG Adv] Tailmon/Wizardmon

Haru/Yuujin

Eri/Rei

Eri/Astra [older ages only]

And that's all.

#ooc notes; mission details

[somena-libra-dawn]

Okay, Digimon Adv ep. 45 is funnier to me.... like, Taichi and Yamato are fighting. Hikari walks away to respond the call (from homeostatis prob) and ignores her brother. Wondering where she goes, Koushiro follows her and his concern of Taichi and Yamato's fight fades into thin air.

#digimon adventure #my post #koushiro at some point: nah i dont care about taichi san and yamato san right now and i wonder what hikari san is doing over there

[deathberi]

#✨🥺🥺🥺✨ #digimon #digimon adventure: #digimon adventure 2020 #taichi yagami #yamato ishida #koushiro izumi #jyou kido #mimi tachikawa #sora takenouchi #takeru takaishi #hikari yagami #digigifs #eri gifs #* #does adv: ending means i stop spamming random gifsets #maybe nottt #this scene was so sweet #ya~mato #u_u #gomamon doing a 180 *_* #tentomon drumming on koushiro's shoulders #smug!takeru #lmao #everything!!!!!!

[kyanitedragon]

Taichi & Hikari + Taking Care of Agumon

#adventure #digimonedit #adventureedit #01 #yagami taichi #yagami hikari #agumon #taichi and agumon #hikari and agumon #my gifs #hikari and digimon #adv

[koushirouizumi]

Me: Today is Making Fun of Yamato{+Takeru} hours M E: Who am I kidding, EVERY DAY is Making Fun of Yamato (& Takeru) Hours

#repeat yamato #repeat takeru #coftff yamato #coftff takeru #silly yamato #koushirouizumi personal #koushirouizumi chatter #koushirouizumi advs #koushirouizumi dgmn #koushirouizumi yamato #koushirouizumi takeru #('I STILL CANT BELIEVE HIKA KNOCKED YAMA OUT OF THE 2ND SPOT IN AN OFFICIAL POPULARITY POLL&TAICHI GRABBED 1ST') #({Cue KouxTai Giggling In The Car @ Yama Reaction}) #('GET EM HIKARI!!1!1!' - TAICHISHOUTING IN THE DISTANCE) #(YAMA BACK @ TAICHI ' I AM GOING TO ----- ') #(My mutual showing me percentages 'ITS REALLY CLOSE' Koushiro at 10 compared to Yamas 11) #('HIKA GRABBED 2ND FROM THEM WHILE KOUSHIRO SNEAKS UP FROM BEHIND TO LAND A COMBO ATTAC---') #silly yamato best yamato

[digitalgate02]

(Rough) Fact Checking on Rui & Ukkomon's statements in 02TB

Tbh I'm kinda concerned about people taking Rui's statements for granted and not realizing the movie is unclear what is legit and whatnot.

This is not Kizuna-like levels of screwed up, but this is still bugging me as i've been discussing about this movie with friends who managed to watch it before me, and once i watched it by myself i completely understood their thoughts and theories regarding the movie and the Rui & Ukkomon lore.

We still got no actual news of digital releases or EN subs (tho i believe fansubs might appear once the JP Blu-Ray/DVD is released in May) or any other country digital release (or Blu-Ray/DVD ones) so i can’t completely make a detailed lore busting post about Rui’s statements and what we know or were presented in the original Adventure’99, 02 and their extra materials like Drama CD and movies.

But i do remember tiny bits of the movie… And stuff said in the pre-release stream.

I’ll do my best here.

[WARNING FOR SPOILERS AHEAD]

The movie staff released a timeline for this movie, which indicates Rui met Ukkomon in February 29 1996 → I don’t think this is a contradiction, because if the Korean interview with SekiP is reliable (i mean, we can’t check what she said in JP, and the telephone game from JP to KR and to EN means something might have been lost in the process!), she said they changed a bit of the lore for this movie. Btw, the OG lore of Digimon Partnership count starts in 1995 and then it doubles year by year is still present in the movie, as there’s a scene where the current number of partnerships in the year of 2012, but the number stated is not exact since the movie takes place in February only. So of course the count wouldn’t be the full year number, which is 131,072 partnerships in total.

Rui and Ukkomon form a bond, and Ukkomon grants Rui the wish of having many friends, which he tells the 02 group that partnerships with digimon were the result of this wish → This is completely uncertain, and it is also doubted by the 02 kids in the movie. In Adv’99 and 02 we learn that there’s multiple sources for becoming a Chosen Child: Homeostasis (Adv Eight, possibly their predecessors); Holy Beasts (Daisuke, Miyako & Iori); unknown sources (Menoa, Meiko, Ken, Wallace, Worldwide Chosen, Dark Seed Children perhaps?)

Rui claims he’s the first person who was partnered with a digimon → Well, this is not wrong! Now, if he were claiming to be the first to have met or interacted with a digimon… He would’ve been wrong: The first human to get in touch with the Digital World and the digimon were actually two – Oikawa Yukio and Hida Hiroki (yes, Iori’s late dad), in the 1980s. Despite that, they never had digivices at all. Then in 1995 we possibly had a double digimon encounter happening: Wallace meeting Gummymon and Chocomon briefly ¹, and the Yagami siblings meeting a Koromon. This could mean Rui and Ukkomon were actually the fourth digimon encounter in the timeline. But what is correct is that he became Ukkomon’s partner first because he got the very first digivice in the world. Taichi and Hikari weren’t partnered with that same Koromon ², but they got their own partner digimon + digivices in 1999. And Wallace probably became Terriermon’s partner years after, possibly in 1996 and after Chocomon’s disappearance ³, or post-1996.

Rui claims Ukkomon is a special digimon because he can grant wishes → Okay, but i definitely remember the 02 Kids going like “sounds cool bro but we doubt it” when he said that. And the movie itself quite shows the opposite later: Ukkomon did not cure Rui’s father, and he was possibly manipulating everyone else like puppets (besides Rui’s parents i meant) – so what kind of digimon who can grant wishes is this?! He has no magical god-like powers at all! And his null lore (Bandai’s) profile points out that part of granting wishes are just rumors. But you know what said profile mentions too? That Ukkomon is able to hijack the opponents’ minds. It’s his species’ special move – Liar Dream – besides spinning like a beyblade to attack (Whirlpool Spin).

Rui claims he killed Ukkomon a long time ago → Also not totally true. Rui tried killing Ukkomon, but he couldn’t commit to it. He tried to destroy the digivice, which resulted in his injury in the right eye. Ukkomon did not… “die” apparently. Yes, he was melting, but one detail you might not know is that when a digimon dies, everything from their body, or their weapon is also erased too. Check Adv’99 death for Pumpkinmon and Gotsumon. The eye Ukkomon slapped into Rui’s face was still there after his “death” so this was the biggest hint for the audience. It was also implied in the Audio Drama #3 (released in the Japanese theaters, and soon in the BD/DVD deluxe box as bonus with the other two theater ones) – But it’s okay, he possibly never had a contact with another digimon or even a Chosen Child before meeting Daisuke & co, so we can’t blame him for believing he had killed Ukkomon.

In a flashback, Ukkomon tells Rui that he’s connected to something bigger → This might be the only legitimate truth he had told Rui, besides that Rui was the first person partnered with a digimon. Somehow, Ukkomon is connected to some god-tier entity because once BigUkkomon is destroyed, the digivices are not needed anymore. This part might be completely confusing for everyone else, but it’s not confirming Rui’s claims that the digimon partnerships were caused by Ukkomon, and yes the part of Ukkomon’s claims to be related to some higher up god-like entity.

The notes within the text:

To my biggest surprise… Wallace never mentions when his mother found the egg. But he definitely mentions when Chocomon disappears – 7 years before, which means 1995. I’ve seen many people think this movie goes against the canon in different ways… But now i’ve reached the conclusion that what Wallace meant is that he met Gummymon and Chocomon in the same year Chocomon disappeared in the flower field. Plus, Wallace is shown in those flashbacks as a 4 years old kid (stated in the Memorial Chronicle) and we know via a CD bonus card that Wallace’s age is 11 years old in 2002 (same as Daisuke, Takeru, Hikari and Ken) – so i guess if he had gotten the egg before 1995 he would’ve been too young to remember it (unless you opt for 1994, but i think this wouldn’t be possible…)

The Koromon who met Taichi and Hikari is implied to not be the same who was partnered with Taichi 4 years later in Adventure'99: the TV series Agumon knew Taichi’s name because of the data inserted on his egg by the Agents, which were also manufacturing the Crests and Digivices, according to Homeostasis’ analysis on the children from the Greymon vs Parrotmon fight.

Since Chocomon went missing, i suppose Wallace became partnered with Gummymon only, but if we go with Adv’99 and 02, the Chosen Children can evolve non-partnered digimon as well: Leomon mentions he only managed to evolve into SaberLeomon because of the Chosen Children’s digivices being used on him previously in the series, and in 02 we witnessed the Digimon Kaiser using his digivice to dark evolve Agumon into both SkullGreymon and MetalGreymon virus (the latter only when he created the Evil Spiral, of course).

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[shihalyfie]

Ok, so... I was talking about this on private with a friend to reply this ask here, so we ended up discussing a bit about something else in the process, about this particular idea the fandom tends to turn into a popular thing. Because well, people loves corrupted versions of the heroes.

What would've been the corrupted arcs of the Adv-02 kids? (just asking y'know, i love to hear your thoughts~~)

Well, the definition of a "corruption arc" is pretty broad, isn't it? So basically we're asking what might turn the kids to evil, right? I suppose that would mean playing to their vices and amplifying them, which means:

Taichi: Playing to his ego, getting him to take others around him too lightly and foolishly/selfishly prioritize himself instead. Playing to the same savior complex that led to the SkullGreymon incident. Basically allowing him to foster a sense of entitlement. We both agree this is probably the scariest one.

Yamato: His sense of personal loyalties and priorities outranks his sense of "theoretical" morality, and he'd be the kind of person who would say the world doesn't matter compared to his loved ones.

Sora: Deterioration of understanding what's the right thing to do, doing haphazard things because she doesn't really have any idea what's right anymore. Wouldn't really be an antagonist with a focused goal, and possibly more of a wild card.

Koushirou: Get him absorbed in science for the sake of science; foster his curiosity to understand better into ignoring the means it takes to get that information.

Mimi: Has too much sympathy for those who really shouldn't be sympathized with and ends up helping them even when they're actively causing more harm than good.

Jou: Gets too caught up in enforcing laws and rules that he ends up forcing uncomfortable restrictions and fear on everyone for the sake of "protecting" them (see SlashAngemon in Xros Wars).

Takeru: Selfishly takes out his anger and wrath on anyone who hits one of his personal beefs or embodies things that get too close to his sensitive emotional issues, without much rationality behind it.

Hikari: Convinces herself that her actions are going to "save" everyone, regardless of how practical or ethical those actions actually are.

Daisuke: Not the kind of person who'd be a good leader, but an unfortunately terrifying kind of accomplice who might do some really dirty/pragmatic things if a sufficiently charismatic antagonist recruited him to their cause convincing him they're doing the right thing.

Miyako: Does everything for her own hedonistic pleasure.

Iori: Similar to Jou, but instead of doing it for their "protection", does it out of a misguided sense of justice and a desire to "punish" anyone who does wrong in his mind.

Ken: ...Can I skip? Not to say that I couldn't theoretically come up with something that's distinct from or works on top of his existing fall into the Kaiser persona, but that just makes me so emotionally distressed that I don't think I really want to go there right now. Sorry.

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