#antis please interact

[proship-selfship]

I'm starting to find evidence on twitter of antis encouraging each other to shun friends and family for not being one of them and I am deeply concerned. This is some cult shit.

"should I shun my friend for being proship even though they're my only irl friend?"

"Should I shun my mother for being proship?"

The answer to both of these is GET HELP. You are being brainwashed into thinking that your friends and family are dangerous when you know that they wouldn't hurt anyone. See a therapist, take some time off the internet, reevaluate your situation. Fiction does not take precedence over your loved ones.

I'm tagging this with "antis please interact" because I think they need to see this too, and hopefully it helps someone. Your loved ones are not dangerous because of their taste in fiction.

#antis please interact #pro ship safe #proship safe #antis are a cult #cult mention #I'll keep saying it until someone listens

[existencebringsonlypain]

I may have posted about this before, but I don't understand the whole proshipper/anti debate. As far as I understand, I'm on the side of proshippers (i think fiction is fiction and doesn't have to reflect reality. because it's fiction.), but what I don't get is why there's such a clear defined binary, and why there's such animosity between the two. It's just a difference in opinion, like any other, isn't it? I understand that either group can "take it too far" (though i dont really get how proshippers could be TOO okay with problematic ships). but i really think either viewpoint is fine to a degree, they both have logic behind them, and it's just a matter of preference, isn't it?

#what i think i'm getting about why proshippers dislike antis so much is the restrictiveness? #but i dont. i doubt antis really want. like. any problematic relationship to either be eradicated or punished. #i'm willing to guess it's closer to “i don't want relationships that have issues + the narrative doesn't provide anything to challenge them #for me i think that's just kinda uninteresting storytelling but it shouldn't be BANNED. yk. #the idea of fiction is getting to see the world from another perspective. #and some perspectives are fucked up. that's just a fact. in fact it's often more fun to read fiction from someone who's “morally wrong” #because you get to see how they tie themself into knots to justify their actions. #but i completely get why someone might not like that. sometimes it's difficult to read a story where the pov is an asshole. #so just don't read it! it doesn't have to be a big deal! i dont get it #existenceunrelateds #antis #proship #proshipper #antiship #antishipper #proshippers please interact #antis please interact #i want group discussion!

[jasontoddssuper]

The concept that an adult character and a kid character can't love eachother tons and have it be completely platonic is pure bullshit made up by proshippers and their apologists.I'm in my 20s and have a good handful of teen friends who i'm super close to and we frequently refer to eachother as siblings because that's how we see eachother.The reason i have no problem befriending them is that i'm an eldest sibling with three younger ones who i also have great relathionships so i enjoy being nice to and looking out for people younger than me and that i have a lot of 'childish' interests such as pg media and 'cutesy' things so we bonded over our love for those and got to know eachother in the process.There's nothing inappropriate about that,only intergenerational friendship and found family,and i would be completely justified in being a ruthless asshole to anyone who implied otherwise

This especially applies towards cases where the reason they love eachother is that they're traumatized and the other showed them kindness and i've got that going on both ways in some of the friendships i mentioned and i want to be a good adult figure in my friends' lives unlike the ones who hurt them.If you can't look at a GROWN ASS PERSON and a CHILD having an unbreakable bond without saying something romantic must be going on and crying about how you 'mean only in fiction!!!',that's on you and your creepy ass that nobody likes

#i was thinking about this because of the dick(as in grayson)binge i've been on and gods....i wish people would just let things be wholesome #antiproship #antis please interact #amigitos #trauma llama #anti batcest #anti shaladin #letters from summer

[sn0wcake]

proshitters i am literally begging you to TAG. YOUR. POSTS. PLEASE. and dont fucking tag them as antishipping to intentionally piss us off or whatever because proshipping can be like. EXTREMELY TRIGGERING?

also you're literally objectively wrong if you think fiction doesn't affect reality and if you know it affects reality and you still proship then im just going to assume you're a bad person

#angry on main #anti shipping #antishipper #anti #proshippers dni #proshippers fuck off #antis please interact #antishipper positivity #antishipping #antiship #tw proship

[fatheriimaginedyoutaller]

The online tumblr kink community has to be some of the most fucking selfish people I've ever met. I have a thing for dominating people in bed, and I like fanfiction of that, but if you told me: "You can only have freedom of being horny on main OR a fanfiction site without CSEM" I would obviously chose the latter because I'm a human being with compassion you fucking imbeciles

#my post #anti ao3 #ao3 critical #kink community critical #fandom criticial #proshippers dni #antis please interact

[peacefiction]

Whether someone is an anti or a proshipper tells you almost nothing about them.

So, you're an anti. What do you consider to be too problematic? How big of an age gap is too big? Do you think that childhood friends are "basically siblings?" Where do you set the line between a relationship with some issues that need to be worked out & an abusive one? Do you think ships with a rocky past are incapable of changing and treating each other well in the future? Do you post hate or gore in the tags of problematic ships? Do you think proshippers deserve to be harassed? Do you think proshippers deserve to die?

So, you're a proshipper. Do you consider shipping real people to be included under proship? Do you bully minors for being uncomfortable with underage sexual fiction? Do you respect other people's triggers, or do you insult them for "not being able to tell the difference between fiction and reality?" Do you believe it's important to tag content warnings correctly, or do you think antis deserve to be triggered by unexpected problematic content? Are you genuinely anti-harassment, or do you consider antis fair game to harass? Do you think antis deserve to die?

Picture two people, called A and B. A and B are both antis. A and B are both against problematic fiction, such as depictions of incest, noncon, pedophilia, and abuse. However, B ships two characters that are 17 and 19 years old, respectively. These characters are childhood friends in canon. A calls out B for liking pedophilia and incest. A calls B "secretly proship."

Picture two people, called C and D. C and D are both proshippers. C and D both support the creation and consumption of problematic fiction. However, D is triggered by pedophilia and incest, including in fiction. D puts these topics on their blacklist and requests that accounts that post those topics do not interact with them. C mocks D for their triggers and tells them to "grow up and learn how to separate fiction from reality." C calls D "an anti."

There is no universal standard for problematic fiction. There is no universal standard of antis or proshippers.

#peacefic #proship #anti #antiship #anti ship #proshipper #pro ship #proshipping #proship discourse #anti discourse #antishipping #antishipper #proship please interact #antis please interact #comship #neufic #neuship #comfic #comship please interact #profic #pro fiction #anti anti

[mentallyunstablemeganerd]

I'm so confused.

What the fuck is the definition of "proship" and "antiship" entail.

Is proship just thinking it would be an interesting story concept?

Is it thinking that stuff is good irl?

Is antiship just hating on fanfic writers for portraying not healthy relationships?

Is antiship just against writing underage?

Do proshippers think that stuff like poppytwt is ok? (It's not. It's really not.)

Are antis just ignoring the people who write school shooting fanfiction?

Someone please help me without the use of death threats

#proship #antiship #proshippers please interact #antis please interact

[ship-survey]

Antis are currently UNDERREPRESENTED in my survey!!!

Because proshippers tend to check ship discourse tags more, as well as tags relating to their position, the survey is majority proship with few objecting stances represented. I’m going to only tag this with the anti tags so that more people can find it but if you are or know self-identified or anti-leaning peeps, pls feel free to send this survey their way!!

Survey can be taken here.

#antiship #anti profic #anti proship #anti radqueer #antishipping #antis please interact #fandom discourse #ship discourse #discourse

[robots-on-film]

Anti-Proship people where yall at!!! Like seriously what tags you all have been using all the tags I know are infested with proshippers

#anti proship #anti proshitter #antiship #antis please interact #martin speaks

[anarchobasil]

You know how y’all proshippers sound? “It’s just fiction” is the proshipper equivalent of the downright 4chan edgelord “it’s just a meme.” That’s how you all sound.

#tw proship #tw proshitter #tw nazism #tw 4chan #proshippers dni #fuck proshippers #antishippers please interact #antiproshipper #antiproshipping #antishipper #antis please interact #antiship safe space #antiship #anti anti anti

[brucewayneargento-moved]

Proshipper whom I hope, for the sake of humanity, never graduates as a lawyer: B-but! The Ashcroft v. Free Speech Coalition ruling says that–

Me, who knows the difference between legality and morality because I have an understanding of life superior to the one of a five year old:

#my post #antis please interact #antiship #anti pro shipping #anti shipper #anti shipping #anti proshitter #anti profic

[existencebringsonlypain]

Please reblog, whether you're in the majority or the minority. I'm interested in the data here and in order to get that we need a large sample size.

#my previous post is me talking about my stance/confusion on the debate itself #i dont really understand it all that well and why there's such animosity between the sides #but i really want to get a larger view on the debate. see it from both sides. #poll #polls #my polls #proship #antiship #proshipper #antishipper #anti #proshippers please interact #antis please interact #existenceunrelateds #no dni here. i want everyone's opinions.

[hunter-rq]

reminder to antis:

im transharmed, transgroomed and transabused so u can traumadump in my asks ig?? i mean, im also a para so it would be rlly nice from yall!

#biastophilic go brr #plz traumadump i need idess for my weird fanfics #i cant feel empathy (sorry not sorry) #antis please interact #paraphiles please interact #radqueer

[wildfeather5002]

Here's a couple questions to the people who participate in fiction/shipping discourse (mainly for antis but others can weigh in too):

1. When it comes to problematic fiction, where do you draw the line? What kind of things are too problematic in your opinion?

For example: romanticizing abuse or explicit sexual scenes involving children, animals, nonconsenting people etc.

2. How should problematic fiction be handled in your opinion? Is censorship ever okay?

_________

I'm asking this out of curiosity and I want to understand everyone's viewpoints, regardless of stance. Please be civil.

#antiship #antishipping #anti #anti anti #proship #proshippers please interact #antis please interact #anti harassment #peacefic #fiction discourse #shipping discourse #proshippers are welcome #antis are welcome #anti censorship #fandom stuff #neutralship

[antis-are-cool]

hello, welcome to antis-are-cool!

hello! my name is reggie/regina, i use any pronouns (he/it pref but i don't mind any others), and i have decided to create this blog to be a safe space for antis! i am also a minor.

due to this i would like to request that proshippers SERIOUSLY DO NOT INTERACT WITH THIS BLOG, as it is meant to be a safe space for antis. it's not exactly "safe" for us if proshippers are invading the space! any proship account interacting will be blocked.

on this blog you can expect to find anti positivity, good anti takes, regina things, and more!

faq + dni under the cut!

FAQ

"what does antiship mean?"

to be antiship means to be against proshipping. proshipping (also called comshipping) is the belief that "shipping" any 2 or more characters, even if the ship is abusive, pedophilic, incestuous, etc., is completely fine. most of the time proshippers think this because they believe that "fiction doesn't affect reality", which is just completely untrue! there have been several documented cases of fiction affecting reality.

"can you prove fiction affects reality?"

yes! as an example, the movie "jaws" has very much affected the way sharks are seen culturally, and lead many people to be afraid of sharks even though most of them are not even dangerous. another example is an incident known as the "slenderman stabbings", in which 2 girls had attempted to k!ll their friend so that slenderman would take them in as proxies. there are likely many more examples but these two are the ones i am most aware of myself.

"but i heard proship/antiship means so-and-so and not your definition?"

the chance is, you have stumbled across one of the below common misconceptions:

proship meaning being ok with the concept of shipping in general (fun fact: it actually used to mean this, but the meaning has since changed)

proship meaning being against harrassment (not inherently, many proshippers harrass antis)

proship meaning someone who ships problematic ships (again, not inherently, many of them do but there are those that don't)

proship meaning p3d0 or some other disgusting thing (also not true, not all proshippers are p3d0s, although many p3d0s are in the proship community)

antiship meaning being against shipping in general (i have heard this from several antishippers, and this is simply untrue! i am an anti-shipper and i have several ships.)

antiship meaning being against any kind of problematic relationship being portrayed in media, ever (no! not even a little bit! me and most other antishippers are perfectly fine with toxic relationships being shown in media, as long as it is made clear that said relationship is bad and it is portrayed as such.)

antiship meaning someone who is pro-harrassment (this is also not true. i am an anti, and i will not tolerate harrassment from either proshippers or antis.)

dni

🍭 basic dni criteria

🍭 antis who harrass proshippers

🍭 proshippers (obviously)

i hope you enjoy this blog! goodbye :)

#anti shipping #antishipper #proshippers dni #antis please interact